Please dont ban me Jagex, just fix this bug

[@FramedYT]

Please no ban 🙏 Try Rocket Money for free: rocketmoney.com/Framed

[@gamechannelminecraft6583]

Hello everyone, good viewing🐼😊

[@FTWMFXD]

nah i got u borrow my account....for those who aren't aware this is a joke. I like my account

[@MyVoiceIsMyTrumpet]

Why you pickin on "big blackguy" framed?

[@searchking91]

arent you like 40 years old and been playing rs for 30 years? how dont you understand banable and non banable exploits yet?

[@titaniumfinger3039]

@@searchking91 Wow no shit? it's almost like he recorded it because Jagex didn't know about for at least 5 months and wanted to show them video evidence so they can finally get rid of this.

[@calvinnguyen1870]

On one hand, this needs to be patched asap. On the other hand, seeing dudes at the ge getting specced out from fucking Morytania is pretty funny.

[@MyName-Jeff]

I didn't know settled was out pking.

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

Lmao that got me.

[@kegcodex]

Gotta get those blood tithes somehow

[@mattkahler4141]

funny till its you

[@fakename2123]

From morytainia has me rolling 😂

[@Andr00OSRS]

next Framed should start AHKing so jagex starts actually banning ahkers

[@possession3929]

its just a cheaters game, accept it

[@danieleparmigiani677]

Wouldn't exactly be the same as AHK is already against the rules, it isn't clear whether this animation stall is or isn't bannable.

[@Andr00OSRS]

@@danieleparmigiani677 keep in mind BH boosting was also against the rules, and nothing was done about it until Torvesta made a video about it.

[@devilsrug5866]

😂

[@papabadgers1555]

Fr

[@timothyvalvo900]

Much respect for how you handle these things. Reporting it months ago, giving them time to fix it on their own, and now making this video somewhat forces jagex to take action.

[@Blackiston]

"You don't want to fix it right now? Too bad. I've made the decision that you're going to fix this right now." alright framed, damn

[@GuandiraYT]

The thing i really apreciate is that you aknowledge that this is just broken and alongside SHOWING whats happening, you go on to find people you kill and give theyr stuff back.

[@gamewh0re]

Very convenient for him. Almost like you shouldn't be using bugs or exploits when you obviously know your using a big exploit. Showing it off for a vid just makes you a pos too lol

[@driocku]

@@gamewh0re Can't be considered an exploit if the devs aren't fixing it or releasing a statement on it.

[@12345wery]

@@gamewh0re This is the best way to get it fixed

[@momoney0157]

​@@driockuand the devs usually fix bugs faster when there's a video about it

[@7statsali]

@@gamewh0re they gotta fix it now, this is crazy

[@jaredmarchitell5659]

Yeah, absolutely broken and needs to be fixed. Hope this video brings more awareness.

[@noahmiller7063]

As an admitted deathmatcher I have seen this for over a year. The true issue behind this isn’t necessarily the stall (which is still annoying), but the stall being coupled with AHKing

[@Bilbo_Swgns]

These stall have been around for much longer and rushers use them against DMers. For example there is an event item, antlers of some kind, that has a whole animation which involves snow being dropped on the ground. You will see many different stalls being used on high risk pvp worlds.

[@steelheadfisherman]

5:48 “With a crushing blow you finish…..” 😂

[@sentientdogma1206]

Incoming Odablock’s “BLACK ZEMON”

[@anticpuppo3010]

Big black guy - level 172 😂

[@d3vient602]

giving people their stuff back is so wholesome lowkey great content, love to see it

[@JordanIdk]

Wow, I remember people doing this back in the day with plank make to AGS or claw you from miles away.

[@ultimateform8714]

Ironic that the last person was named "tf u gona do".

[@MattHenley]

Lmao that one guy who instantly attacked you back was sus af. He was already double mauling you before your character even appeared in range for him to click.

[@kevinsullivan1578]

Glad I'm not only one who called bullshit on that

[@michaelwoods8299]

He also could have seen what framed is in and been expecting him to try it

[@BK-ib5sk]

He is a known clientet

[@Da5kone001]

@@michaelwoods8299 its a bot client user, framed isnt even on his screen by the time he specced him like even if your expecting it its not possible to hit back that fast without code injection

[@Beowulfgang_Amadeus]

On the one hand, every animation glitcher that dies while doing this BS is karmic justice. On the other hand botting to do it is just as bad if not worse. Catch 22.

[@killadmotor6722]

Good job!!! Not only entertaining but your taking one for the team. Everyone except the people reaping are sick of this crap n dont even wanna pk till its patched. Cheers for being a speaker to say what the community wants to say. The amount of bils people have lost or gained let alone anger n frustration has justified this video being made i reckon. Cheers bloke, love ya work 🤙

[@arisneven9435]

This is not just a problem for PvP but also used by scammers. Sir Pugger has mentioned it before in a video, where lurers/scammers to trade a person. Once accepting the trade your character gets pushed out of the safe zone. Think he reported it back then as well

[@3dp_edc]

those were other stalls that didnt even have anyway of knowing a stall was happening, but im sure theyre using this one now too.

[@setmeplz1]

its to the point where if its been reported by sirpugger you'd think they'd completely remove "inactive" stalls from the game completely and this problem would just be solved.

[@LOOTSNEK]

I actually got got with this trick a few years ago. They open a book or mini map when you goto trade them and it pushes you out of safe zone in wild where a ancient mage is waiting

[@3dp_edc]

@@setmeplz1 amen brother, gagex just dont care about their game sometimes. They know about stalls yet almost every time they release something another one appears.

[@NickHale-nf1wo]

That's how they got my shadow and ancestral

[@TAR9TORMINA4]

i remember when you use to lure kev,you almost got me once since then iv'been a fan still love what you're doin keep on rollin kev!

[@darthalex97]

I dont have access to the source code, but the ring of stone usage makes me think that theres some entangled web of spaghetti that makes this a non trivial fix. Like I'm assuming this is related to skipping the sarachnis stun mechanic (not directly). If I were to guess, theres probably a ton of instances where the game can be absolutely broken by the ring of stone (or egg just watch Rendi's defence pure) and finding all of them is taking a fat minute. Not stanning for Jamflex just might be why they're staying quiet hoping this just stays small.

[@solarwhale6370]

The quick and trivial fix would be to just not allow the emote while in pvp worlds while they work it out lol

[@SkulblakaFreohr]

They could easily fix morphs or the emote, though.

[@ipodjulator]

Long story short going through some shit today, you made it better

[@dihqdown6426]

First time someone said long story short and actually made it short lol. Hope your day gets better mate.

[@trumpatier]

I hope you're doing better now brudda!

[@PoodySmack]

Damn Framed out here making ultimatums to Jagex.. crazy lmao good job framed

[@AlbinoBanana2]

That's so unbelievably broken it's embarrassing.

[@cIeetz]

osrs is a very old game bro. if jagex manipulates it too much it can crumble the entire infrastructure and lead way to way worse bug abuse because its like a domino effect if you break something people can slide in and manipulate the game even further. Jagex tries but its alot to take on , the game was made in like what, 2004? this version is from 2007. Same thing with like Neopets for instance, its chaotic trying to restore something with super old, outdated coding.

[@Dontwannahearit]

@@cIeetzso they can add huge new areas, new items, new skill training methods, totally new bosses with all new combat mechanics but they can’t fix an animation stall? Come on man

[@nicholasacton2991]

@@Dontwannahearit It's easier to add new content to a game because it doesn't generally interact with legacy code or old areas. Combat mechanics being changed are also generally tweaks to pre-existing systems, with rare cases of changing core mechanics after MONTHS if not a YEAR of testing - even then I imagine there will be game breaking bugs when rolling out those changes. If you learn more about programming or old coding languages then you would understand better.

[@EntitySteel]

@@cIeetz ​ @nicholasacton2991 These are nonsensical excuses. This is literally a new emote they added to the game. They can fix animation stalls extremely easily, they're just choosing not to for some strange reason. I don't know where you people get the idea that they can't other than your own weird desire to defend a for-profit company?

[@Fearless_Jay]

@@nicholasacton2991 ....alright just change the emote to work like skillcape emotes and boom problem fixed, how is this breaking the game again?...

[@Esco_Vertex]

Wtffff @framed thank you so much for showing this bro, THIS IS HOW I DIED IN LUMMY!!! I have been wondering for a couple weeks how I did not see the guy and after that death I kept triple checking corners and behind doors and under npcs incase someone was in there. I got tbed and the guy appeared out of nowhere and specced me. Scumbag was bug abusing, jagex owes me 11m.

[@setmeplz1]

It's not really bug abusing if it's an intentional "inactive" stall right? like from a perspective. It should be fixed like all these inactive stalling animations but I don't think its bug abusing

[@wayward134]

​​​@@setmeplz1 It's definitely not intentional, and I think anyone who does it is indeed a scumbag, but idk about bannable

[@therabbit1794]

People did this way back when the Gmaul first came out and you could glitch it to have 3 specs... Dance next to wilderness, walk in, use all 3 specs, and opponent would die before your character even showed up next to them.

[@BestOfRunescapeOFFICIAL]

Wow this definetly needs to get fixed!

[@houndnz4703]

Just a heads up this works with the Reindeer hat too. You morph and unmorph and then do prance. Can travel up to 14 tiles before the animation ends.

[@mattsterman100]

glad you're calling out the line that needs to be drawn. the pvp scene has been rife with loopholes that jagex has gone "yeah that seems fine" and many of them ARE. But this. You lose control of the fight. It's taking advantage of an interaction that should have nothing to do with PVP in the first place.

[@tearzrollingdownyourface591]

These "animation stalls" are so common used in luring its crazy. It's not even down to the player half of the time, its bug abuse from the lurer. Jagex seriously needs to address this, different animation stalls have always been in the game. Props to framed for showing the problem

[@chancekingmusic]

This is an OG trick. Remember you could use the dance emote and it would stall and u could maul rush someone? Also I abused the crap out of this back in the day at the duel arena with obby rings. I prolly made about 600ish mill. Got a blue phat before they patched it. I think it was 07 or 08.

[@joshuabarker3747]

This video is a perfect example of why you’re one of the best (in my opinion) content creators for this game. Way to use the bug to your advantage to show how unfair it can be. “There was no skullball this time so, I guess you win” 😂 killed me.

[@StarHaven64]

Oh man, that is nuts. I am out of practice, but I use to PK back in pre EOC and early OSRS days. This is an absolutely problem, thanks for sharing and trying to help the PVP community dude! Have not seen any animation stalls this bad before holy crap. Also are you excited for the Paper Mario TTYD remake? Can't wait its almost here!

[@ivanlara6760]

Ive seen the animation stall rushing since Feb of last year, is not just the trailblazer animation but also with the Sled, with the easter egg and so many others I have never been able to replicate it, the gold farmers/ahkers in pvp keep it really underground, heard from someone they had their operation rushing dmers for ovee 10-15b a day.

[@shares5]

tried a few times and it seems to be fixed in this weeks game update, gg framed :D

[@michaeld3546]

upvote and comment to push to the top. Hopefully saves someone some gp on trailblazer unlike me

[@mysticflow467]

7:20 bro should've signed up for defence against the dark stalls

[@APigthatflys]

I love how animation stalling has always been this fun thing that looks silly when you do it properly, and now it's become...this...wtf Jamflex

[@Mud-Brain]

This has likely been in the game since OSRS launched, considering you can do the exact same thing with the reindeer antlers. It's not as long of a stall, but it's still about 7 ticks, and I'm sure other items/emotes work even better.

[@wayward134]

Some stalls are okay. This one is absolutely not okay. Duration and visibility makes a massive difference

[@balex2344]

@@wayward134 im gonna have to disagree, any stall is an unfair advantage in your favor that shouldn't exist

[@wayward134]

@@balex2344 Zaryte crossbow and the new sunlight crossbow had stalls intentionally built in. Venge stall was unintentional but it is now a much loved feature. Snowflake accounts use several stalls to help with tick eats etc. My comment was more focused on removing long stalls and this trailblazer one, not promoting other stalls, but when prompted, I will identify stalls as an undeniable feature of the game

[@EntitySteel]

@@balex2344 Dumb opinion. The opening stall on vengeance is mechanically fine. It just gives the initiator of combat a slightly higher advantage.

[@MrSolomonGaming]

This isn't just a problem for PvP. Animation Stalls like this are used countless times in Lures. Literal Billions of Gold can get stolen from players because someone uses these to auto-move their victims to Dangerous Spots.

[@ondrejcvrcek1927]

You can see this particular thing when doing Cave horrors task. Seems like you're standing in one spot, but if you have true tile on, you are just moving as you normally would. Didn't know you can abuse it tough :D

[@bc508]

It's been in the game for years the same thing works with ring of stone and reindeer hat prance emote

[@614BlueBerry]

Only took someone with 500k subs to get this fixed, pretty sad since it's been reported as an issue for ages, but its been in the game since the start. Veng was one of the first ones.

[@TeraGotBuns]

Animation stalling has been in the game in various forms since the start and they did fix the old dclaw spec stall iirc, but that was years after it was in the game...

[@DirtyHammmer]

9:00 the sound my TV makes when it’s been on for too long

[@dylon2372]

Love that you sent the video. Sometimes devs do better with visuals

[@coolgamer936132]

thanks for getting this patched finally. i reported it several times over a year ago and it was never fixed.

[@bob4706]

Rendi did something similar and got attacked heavily by Jagex. Hope HCs are aware of this, you could easily stall and sneak passed scouts for wildly bosses.

[@TheAverageVargo]

Excellent case, hope Jamflex follows up. Worst case everyone that views this video is at least now aware of how it works even if you really can’t avoid that

[@jdiz-mm5nw]

the GOAT is back

[@DudleyIntelligence]

Great video exposing the pvp problem

[@adamadli6189]

If people dropped items to lure you into wilderness you could just pick them up and tele without them seeing you

[@wayward134]

Jagex need to do a hard fix on all animation stalls longer than 4 ticks, active or inactive. Veng and crossbows are fun, they're short. But long emotes are undeniably ruining the fun, so why are they in the game? When emote entered, if time greater than 4 ticks and action performed, exit emote. Fix the spaghetti code. Then make one and only one really obvious inactive animation stall that lasts several more ticks, for the cheese snowflake accounts.

[@chellybub]

Classic Jagex, just use the Rendi line, it's not "bug abuse" which is bannable, it is a "manip" which is a legal grey area lol.

[@Demiandrogyne]

Clienters and AHKERS are more Important than someone rushing someone using an animation stall that don't know how to change prayers or teleport when there being rushed in 2024 💀

[@splatzec]

Jagex doesn’t care.

[@petifogger2340]

They care more about muting people than they do fixing their game

[@DTM93]

They don't which is very evident with the same 120m xp bots everywhere in game and despite numerous reports they're still there every single day.

[@splatzec]

@@DTM93 it’s been like this since Carlyle bought it. Don’t even get me started on the global pies they have their fingers in. Practically money laundering with a game attached 😒 *Political spotlight on Carlyle after U.S. election* - Reuters

[@amogusenjoyer]

​@@splatzeclol are you sure Cambridge analytics bought jagex (formerly Fred's) ? They are in Cambridge but that's not the same thing ...

[@splatzec]

@@amogusenjoyer Oh jeez you are right I completely quacked on which company bought it 🤦‍♂️ ‘twas Carlyle 💀 London & Cambridge, UK, 9 February 2024 - Global investment firm Carlyle (NASDAQ: CG) and CVC, a leading global private markets manager, are pleased to announce that CVC Capital Partners Fund VIII and Haveli Investments have agreed the acquisition of Jagex, a leading developer and publisher of video games. Could be considered worse depending on relative views on the US: *Political spotlight on Carlyle after U.S. election* - Reuters

[@Kionu-]

Absolutely stupid, thank you for exposing this nonsense and hope it gets fixed.

[@badcaseofstripes]

Jagex just needs to make all emotes cancellable, where if you move your character during an animation it just completely cancels the animation. This would fix the problem of people being baited to use an emote and subsequently being totally defenseless, as well as crazy ass animation stalls like this. We already have the hunter's crossbow if you want to be a nuisance, this is too much though. It shouldn't be bannable honestly. Jagex just needs to dedicate more to fixing the real issues within PVP.

[@Critmaw]

Hope you keep doing it until the fix it. Doubt they'll fix it until big content creators make a fuss for long enough.

[@brettbutler4013]

jagex ignores the problem... lets teach 500k people how to do it... they cant ignore that

[@NedaKovc]

Selling ring of Stone 50mil each! Jagex doesnt care

[@OrtzGaming]

glad you had the balls to do this man

[@teelorp8306]

Time to bug abuse. Thanks jagex

[@slayyzosrs]

All the new lurers are using animation stalls so when you trade them in a bank, you're actually trading someone who has moved out into a danger area

[@KickaHippyPK]

It never ceases to amaze me how people will find another way to get a game breaking advantage in PvP instead of just learning to PK. I remember when PolyPore staves and Storm of Armadyl seemed game breaking pre-eoc. Original whip spec, anyone? Now we have bots AHKing, and specing you out from different game chunks whike getting multi combat buffs in single combat. 😂 The effort people put in to kill players but not put the effort in to PKing is amazing.

[@wingding7955]

Music was so good on this video btw

[@Jonah0]

2 minute long ad in a 10 minute video one of the creators of all time

[@tappajaav]

Takes 5 seconds to skip? Mobile issue?

[@matthewfera2954]

It was a bit under a minute and a half. Splitting hairs as to your point but devil's in the details.

[@bojo6007]

Thanks for doing the work KempQ did not even try to do.

[@dantedeloden]

without stalls due to power creep over the years, u can exceed 200 stack dmg within a tick, so of course this isnt hleping LOL.

[@zackyb1996]

I use to death match and I’d always watch those sneaky people rush people doing the still method, it got to the point where they got rag bots on me to stop them. Jagex really needs to fix it. They make billons everyday doing it. Even got me for a 130m before

[@Jacob-yb3hz]

It's sad they won't fix stuff until content creators release videos on it. I'm sure it'll be fixed soon now.

[@Steven-hq3go]

It's probably difficult to fix, that's why it hasn't been

[@EntitySteel]

@@Steven-hq3go Doubtful. One pretty easy fix is to delete the animation until you can figure out a better way to implement it, for example. Or yknow, change it to behave like the emotes that break when you move.

[@BigBoyMMO]

I mean its honestly pretty dope to do and see, keeps you on your toes..don't walk out unless you got a fight.

[@maddogOsrs]

This is really damning for them... if they care about their game this would be top on list, so game breaking. People are lucky I dont abuse/exploit cause i ain't no b***

[@wetspider4105]

That’s absolutely insane. I’m guessing it works when going through different rooms like when you originally got pked. With pking being a mix of reaction time and prediction it’s jarring to not be able to trust your eyes. Hope this gets patched

[@Hoontor]

Worked with the easter egg ring... says my sources.

[@FramedYT]

It works with any transmog ring

[@JLeeGolf]

This has been in the game long before Trailblazers. They used to animationstall using spell book swap and something else on lunars. Same thing but just harder since the animation is less.

[@EntitySteel]

The point is the long animation time bro.

[@MrFrazzleDazzle]

Of course it’s a problem for PVP. If you can’t actively counter, or even know where your opponent is, then they have an unfair advantage. Lurers are also using animation stalls. It needs to be stopped

[@LG1ikLx]

Rendi made a video on animation stalls years ago. He was stacking the animations aswell. Granted he used a different method.

[@OooEeOooAhAh]

"its a pretty safe bet" you're damn right!

[@ryanomalley1776]

Another instance of Jagex's amazing customer support.

[@ZachScottFNaF]

This type of stuff has been around forever. I still remember mixing dyes in pre eoc to dclaw rush people with the stall.

[@Shiestey]

“I kinda created a problem and then solved it, you’re welcome” you sound like Apple’s marketing team

[@EntitySteel]

The problem was already there though..?

[@NoConsequenc3]

how the fuck did he create this issue you turbo nanobrain

[@RochyBeGood]

It's been going on for years sadly, every time they come out with event/holiday stuff a new glitch is born...

[@xsusxx7005]

“Jagex please fix this problem” Also “Hey everyone, here’s how you do it”

[@EntitySteel]

You understand how those are complimentary actions rather than contradictory ones, right?

[@ShloppyShmeat]

Is it also possible to do this to escape pkers in the wildy? I can imagine its really hard to catch up once they just disappear after freezes wear off.

[@railroadbluesy2169]

I know that fixing shit like this is really complex, but they could probably just make every animation an inactive stall, no idea why there are certain animations you can move under in the first place.

[@MothleyRS]

I honestly think jagex should remove animation stalls altogether I think the only reason they are in the game to begin with is because of certain animations that might look weird when walking like the dragonfire shield block but then they also have stalls on stuff like the trident for no apparent reason Emotes should also just be cancellable like most other actions Stalling just makes the game look inconsistent and weird and removing it wouldnt really change anything mechanically other than making it look consistent

[@EntitySteel]

Animation stalls aren't a mechanic, they're an outcome of mechanics interacting. Your character's graphics are locked by something, but your character's position is not. Think of cutscenes or quest mechanics, your character's position is often elsewhere while your character's graphics are locked when the camera changes positions.

[@Eloquence00]

The guy in your original clip doing the casual 6 way manual cast firewave to 6-way melee swap with the animation stalls to boot is possibly the most blatant cheater I've ever seen. I'd sooner believe a guy with 16000 Leviathan KC and no other boss kills was legit than that guy. On the real though, this needs to be patched ASAP. I've seen people doing this for a long time doing lures from GE to the wildy by dropping low value items all the way to the wildy ditch and tb-fire way into dclaws from off the screen. You just see a random skull over the ground. It's funny when you see it from an outside perspective, but if it happened to me I'd be absolutely furious. Especially if I was trying find some actually fights for fun.

[@gloriousapplebees]

Jagex as always being on top of their game and preserving it's integrity 😂

[@randallfinkbonner5476]

Literally as easy as disabling the emote in pvp areas/worlds. don't know why jagex hasn't fixed this. (commenting to get the vid it's deserved views brother!)

[@miasmicdreamer]

My man's is doing Saradomin's work out here

[@kesha222]

i freaking loved you framed

[@Dontwannahearit]

Typical jagex completely ignoring game breaking issues, maybe they are too busy with all the bot busting that they do. Oh wait they don’t do anything about that either.

[@Disregarding]

Jagex lazier than the stockers at Dollar General!

[@ricketycricket4361]

Ugh. That was my 800k @7:30. Gosh darnit! I guess I'll be taking the 5m, but I'm just so discouraged now from PvP. Oh well. 5m plz.

[@EntitySteel]

Why is Jagex so incompetent that they still allow their developers to make emotes that don't either break upon performing an action (Something that is already in the game) or lock you in place until finished (Something that is already in the game)? I'd go for the former on all player-controlled animations in the future since it's the least likely to have bad interactions with any other mechanics.

[@NoRziA_]

This is absolutely ridicules and definitely needs to be fixed ASAP because how are you actually supposed to do something about it like wtf… Jagex have so many issues recently and just don’t care

[@SkadutchGaming]

LOL. This is actually wild. I would log out and quit the second this happened to me.

[@zezimaownz432]

its obviously a problem. being able to stall with an animation so much where your opponent cannot even see where they're getting attacked from and can die in a fraction of a second.

[@K_inben]

Should start doing this more often, I find it amusing that the player named "Framed" is the one killing people in "frames".

[@leflavius_nl5370]

Yes it's a problem, no i can't blame the PVPers using this mechanic for using it. I find it normal to expect enemies to be where their characters are, simple as. Fiks it jamflex.

[@Bigguy13-sy6mk]

This has been a thing since I was playing RuneScape in 2003. Should not be banable I can’t believe people are even complaining this has always been a thing

[@thehappypittie]

Good work brother. If they don't patch it at this point they just don't care. Hopefully they'll fix it.

[@MuwuRS]

Neat to find these before notification gang