Filipino Champ VS UGC Cloud805: First to 15 (Win By 2) from SCR 2014

[@Eight-Bytes]

31:20- "Yeah he has Fire, he has like every element man. Except for like wind." EH! Wrong. Agni and Rudra are Fire and Wind elements. So, moves like Sky Dance, Jet Stream, and Twister/Tempest have wind in the element. Yes. I am a fucking nerd. I am proud to know my Devil May Cry.

[@noobwarrior0524]

Zero may cry :v

[@doncinati7644]

I wish that devil arm would make a comeback someday, just too iconic

[@tehmaimed]

lol it's really Marvel vs. Capcom

[@hussain2879]

it's called marvel vs capcom so that's why

[@tripleAbe]

@@hussain2879 He meant that FChamp's team consist of all Marvel characters while Cloud's team consist of all Capcom characters

[@rvnender]

I want to see a first to 10 between Cloud's hair and Ricky's.

[@chinezeFURY]

Match starts @ 4:00

[@tehmaimed]

You could tell Cloud's ZMC team is far more superior in paper compared to Champ's Phoenix team. He doesn't need to save 5 bars, has a free comeback character in the form of Vergil, an anti-air assist (which Champ's characters all fly) and a point character who can OCKO any character in the game given enough meter. Considering how Champ needs to protect his meter from side TACs, Cloud can also abuse the down TACs to gain meter. His team is better in each and every way. Wonder why Champ still plays Jean, but it's nice how he has some character loyalty :-)

[@tjmr15]

i honestly think he still plays jean because like you said its character loyalty. He just really likes her, he makes her work better than a lot of people, even his normal phoenix aint no joke, but if he wasn't loyal to the character he could have been replaced her / just stuck to his dorm team.

[@Chowdizzle]

Though I can see what you are saying I simply don't agree. Champ's team has an incredibly solid fullscreen neutral game that in half the games tore apart Cloud's ZMC. The weakness in ZMC is that compared to Champs team it lacks mobility. Even with the anti-air assist it is a challenge for Cloud to land it because A) Magneto can call assists while flying, thus Doom can shoot Dante at any given point B) Magneto while flying can plink dash which will outrun all of Zero's maneuvers. Zero's best get in tool against this team is to jump, H lightning and buster, then call Dante, but a player as quick as Champ will see this and have time to land and dash behind Zero immediately putting Zero back into the neutral game that he loses. Both teams are pretty optimal so honestly, it isn't superior in either teams favor. The one thing to take into consideration is most games when Zero goes down, Champ will rush down Vergil and take him out creating the 3v1 situation which Dante isn't very good in. If Champ gets the first kill it often (not always) means game for Cloud. On the flipside, Doom/Phoenix are so synergous with long combos and meter gain that even when Cloud gets Magneto out of the game, Champ still has a strong chance to win. Just my 2 cents.

[@DeluxStart]

So Jean isn't really even considered a good character? Because everytime Champ's in Phoenix mode or whatever after his first life bar, everyone he touches melts away. It's a serious question I've been wondering.

[@tehmaimed]

That's because he's so agile with her. She's the most mobile character in the entire game, and she's definitely not bad - she's a very good character in theory. The two things that keep her from being a metagame standard (overused) are her health and her inferiority to other anchors like Strider (who has one of the best assists) and Vergil (self-explanatory). It's harder than it looks, to get Jean to Dark Phoenix in tournaments! I mean look at those snapbacks with insane mixups! And other anti-Phoenix tech!

[@ItachiYGO]

DeluxStart a lot of players nowdays just see dark phoenix as a Vergil with a bunch of requirements attached ..she isn't bad..her function in the game was just taken over by Vergil.

[@BabaGhanoushMusic]

I remember I was there at SCR and put a good amount of money on Cloud and nobody mentioned to me about the win by 2. So when Cloud got 15, I popped off then everyone was like bro it’s win by 2, sad times lol

[@HYDEinallcaps]

Now THAT'S what I call getting robbed.

[@BabaGhanoushMusic]

@@HYDEinallcaps I was the opposite of happy

[@wattaponyz]

match starts at 4:00

[@Yukari_MAiG]

So this is FT 15 like Topanga style that there will be "deuce". Fair rule. Very very nice match. If it's normal FT15 then Cloud would already have won. :D

[@TheDisarminghinkle]

I never thought I'd be cheering for a Dante and Virgil user. But, the amount of cheese involved in a team of Magneto, Doctor Doom, and Phoenix... Fuck that. Oh, you can use the same 100+ combo between Dr. Doom and Magneto over and over again? Congratufuckinglations. Every single Dr. Doom/Magneto player. It's just that one fucking combo over and over. At least other characters have a variety of combos that people utilize.

[@thewrestilingfan83]

i agree the only guy how plays doo that i like (at least that i can think of right now) marlinpie

[@raphaelmark1489]

noshoestrey Zak Bennet has a disgusting Doom. I really like Marlinpie's Doom and Bennet's is the closest thing to it in terms of style. Additionally, it's really different from Marlins.

[@skhan1786]

Your comment shows a lot of ignorance. You don't always have to do a different combo just for the sake if doing it. Haven't you heard of "tournament combos"? It's best to keep everything simple, the player doesn't care if you get bored of watching. By saying that you're taking credit away from people who play mag/doom, you might as well say that to everyone who plays top tiers. Also, mag/doom has a high skill cap and their metagame is hard to master. (neutral game)

[@thewrestilingfan83]

i don't know if you mean me or someone else i'll leave this here and it was for me tell me please

[@TheTwilightStorm]

El Gato's Doom says high.

[@BrianQuest64]

I cant believe i was so entertained by watching the same 2 people go back and forth.

[@not_creative2954]

7:03 7:07

[@johntrains1317]

44:50 amazing play

[@deejaykriskrush]

a lot of people are here complaining about tiers and how its the same characters over and over. and yes, i used to get bored of it but some need to appreciate the high level play here. yes these teams are boring but the players arent. if it was any other ZMC player or any other mag doom phoenix player, say, flux vs neo, i wouldnt be watching. pay attention to how they play, instead of who they pick.

[@marvalekellogg5259]

Combo at 9:50 was beast

[@Omegadarkdrake]

i keep telling people fchamp literally makes his living on first to 15ing people. the longer the set the higher than chance fchamp will win, because unfortunately for some, fchamp is an extremely consistent player which goes a looong way in a game like marvel. idk who proposed the win by 2 condition but cloud pretty much lost of it again because the longer the set the more fchamp wins. fchamp even said it himself that he would would win evo more often if the sets were a ft15 instead of ft3.

[@PaulHindt]

Wow the skill and talent in this game is getting out of control. The combos, teams, reactions, and reads are on a whole other level compared to when vanilla MvC3 came out, or even when Ultimate first came out.

[@DeluxStart]

God I love watching Cloud play Dante. There wouldn't happen to be any competitions or tourneys that do 1v1s in this game where Cloud is using his Dante would there?

[@omarali1256]

Cloud is really becoming a major player in this game .... The only zero player whome I like

[@azuresaiyan9005]

Because he isn't helpless after Zero is gone. Most Zero players are only good with Zero, and once he's gone, they kinda struggle, Cloud, however is a beast with Dante, best Dante since Yipes.

[@kikook222]

***** Yipes never had a good Dante. He was just the most well known Dante. His Dante, he admits to this, is ass. Cloud makes Dante look good but in reality Dante is so hard to do anything with.

[@azuresaiyan9005]

Bumbleness Supreme Brady Lol, you kidding? Yipes Dante may not be as good now, but it was beast before, and still is.

[@kikook222]

***** Yipes Dante was never good. You never saw his Dante do work unless the opponent allowed him to do f.H, called Mag, teleport. Why do you think he abandoned Dante? Yipes is a good MVC player. He still is but his Dante was never good on his team. It always was netting him losses.

[@azuresaiyan9005]

Bumbleness Supreme Brady To say his Dante doesn't net him any wins is like saying Chris Redfield doesn't net anyone any wins. Dante isn't a high tier character, in a game where high tiers matter a lot. Before Cloud came along, Yipes was the only Dante doing damage at Tournaments. He stopped playing it for less execution heavy characters. Plus, lol at his Dante never being good from you. You clearly haven't seen his Dante in action.

[@liamfoote7164]

57:08 that's false you can forward throw with round trip out. He doesn't use force edge in any of his throw animations.

[@bruc3mdnaX]

Champ isnt winning? Alright lets give them 2 more matches so he can win lol LEGIT

[@blackaosam]

Can you explain plz ?? i didnt watch what happened in SCR

[@z3r0nik]

ft15 (win by 2) is not the same as ft15... (15-13 would be winning the set, 15-14 is not 2 ahead, so they keep playing until there is a 2 wins difference) If they agreed to it before the match, there is nothing wrong with the result

[@uchyuuga]

I think Bruce was talking about how the score was Cloud 8 - 10 Champ and the next match it was Cloud 9 - 12 Champ.

[@z3r0nik]

Dethmouth they said the score was wrong there and they fixed it... but I am too lazy to go through 55 minutes to count if they were right

[@redvenomweb]

At 14-14 you can see them clearly confirm win by 2, unless everyone in the camera shot suddenly became a Japanese tourist.

[@decoyoctopusra]

Cloud805: Most haphazardly awesome Dante EVER.

[@djrodriguez3937]

Just wanted to share that zero is harder to combo not only cuz of his hitbox but because hes very floaty. You have to delay combos for him which makes less than optimal confirms very hard to convert to full damage

[@supa_slaya_j-star5073]

Everyone knows Cloud took this whole hearted. Champ wanted that extra 2 just in case he would loose and Cloud bring less experienced would be more faded. Cloud for life!!!!

[@diegonunes3852]

CJ was high as fuck

[@BellaZ209]

Cloud is the only zmc player I like he cam actually make the team look fun it's more then just using only zero....other zmc players fail to understand that

[@stevefox88a]

GG,aniway Cloud won the FT15^^

[@bradylavy9592]

the guard break logo made me think my phone was broken lol

[@chanthien99]

Anyone knows the recent Justin match they mentioned in this video? Please let me know. Can't find it.

[@zacharymachado7394]

42:58 The overall Sypnosis of this game XD

[@ChicoMasterMindBeast]

It’s funny one of my favorite sets between two high lvl players. But it forever highlighted how much of a punk champ was, never heard of win by two before this set.

[@SOLIDvDefaction]

nor cal rules make me laugh first to 15 unless I'm losing then you need to beat me to 2 more times.... in a row..blindfolded....and only 1 hand.

[@itzsanchez93]

what are you talking about the rules where set from the start. it was win by 2 cloud agreed with it

[@selfsponsored7640]

What a dumbass

[@Eastside7133]

Is that Cloud805er the one who beat TERRY BOGARD 18 On Xbox Live Online????

[@BellaZ209]

Yep same person

[@Eastside7133]

zjaunef damm he's going against the best in umvc3

[@henrysimmons6767]

Amazing battle...I watched every second

[@SnakeStormTV]

why don't they do this with fchamp vs chrisg?

[@SELG88]

already done

[@SnakeStormTV]

I know bitch... thanks

[@viktorybomb]

It's been done

[@animaIpath]

@@SnakeStormTV why’d you ask then? clown lmao

[@MrSirGloomy]

Where's the triple TAC timestamp? I don't have time to watch all this :(

[@2bepower1]

cloud is 1 million times better than fillipino champ

[@2bepower1]

Claudia Mercado he won the ft 15... and just look at his dante and his combos.

[@youdontknowmeman01]

2bepower If they were playing FT15 straight up, then yes he would have won. But they both knew the terms of FT15 'win by 2' going in. Its a whole new game then. In this set Fchamp was just the better player.

[@joeynoodles5973]

2bepower except he's not

[@jadenfoster7729]

Who won an evo and who hasn’t oh that’s right fchamp has an evo cloud doesn’t

[@emmanuelgonzalez2935]

This game boils down to whoever can play the same 5 characters the best.

[@sliding_by8607]

that's marvel 2

[@StealthMaster5k]

ASK NOT DOOM AND MAGNETO HOW THE PHOENIX FLIES

[@FireDavio42]

14:40 CHIP CHIP CHIP DEAD.

[@Stormy2021]

cloud deserves to lose after agreeing to that dumb stipulation

[@geassknightmare]

LITERALLY didnt add two of Champs wins and he STILL won lmfao. Fuck Cloud ( still had the best Dante combo ever tho)

[@Sandroman1999]

Great set!

[@waynelau7228]

how baked is cj jesus

[@TFoTLIVES]

Why does fchamp look 60 years old in this video lmfao

[@lilracoonvevo1112]

Jonathon Fleming he is 37

[@KishorTwist]

Is there a headphone jack on those joysticks?

[@KoMoBeats]

Whoa close set, good stuff to cloud.

[@Imozart0341I]

Man Cloud won and thats it.

[@herogin710]

dayum phoenix max attack damage is like 30-40% per hit

[@geebeepman]

just realized the video is more than an hour long lol

[@KishorTwist]

Why the rush at the end?

[@Drax7771]

What a great set,

[@hopoy4425]

Love seeing people bitch about champ so hilarious hahaha

[@brandonnlara7186]

I want to fight cloud

[@lightning9494]

Out of habit I root for anyone named cloud.

[@chegames1]

Who guys u r amazing how do u understand what's going on there? Wow

[@chegames1]

its not, but its hard to see the details of the fight. Everything is shining and lighting. Its too fast!!!

[@striders004]

Who is winner??

[@BakuryuGenesis]

those people talking crap, realize the primary mission, as usual, for these match ups.. is to WIN!!!!. those participating should be aware, unless their FOOLS. so those people so quick to want to judge something, know you need some Light in your head if you wanna judge. if you don't Understand, don't judge. you need Knowledge to judge. so stop feeding yourselves salt.

[@brawlkillers13]

36:34 wtf was with zeros TaC? can someone explain?

[@awesomesauce6254]

Kareem 112 cloud covered every direction with sogenmu and x factor. he does the up down and then side so that f champ can’t tech the tac since he would have to cover the two other options first

[@luciferarise4973]

i wanted to see this for so long

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

GuardBreakBako HEY GUYS WHAT WAS THE SHIT @36:32 THE ZERO SHIT... WHAT IS THAT, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE PLEASE EXPLAIN IF YOU CAN....

[@metalheadjakob]

love watching clouds dante

[@Nevesdeath]

Ok. Is it just me, or does Cloud look like Richard "the Nightstalker" Ramirez?

[@DeusExMachina10001]

Why does anyone ever want FChamp to win?

[@Berzerker7]

why cloud didnt win

[@TheDonaldduck911]

maaaan, say what you wanna say about showstopper but that dude got me laughing my ass off with his commentary

[@Cha1r]

champ is kind of cute when you squint

[@GBchannel28]

Dude do marvel players not enjoy playing this game? There's so many people that just... never smile.

[@GlorybetoGOD7]

I love this game.

[@xianone13]

What game is this?

[@KrutoyPostowoy]

what game?

[@HitPeace]

So many time outs!

[@justiceonce2081]

Champ sure likes to stay hydrated :o

[@zoso9391]

+Joseph Harris When you do anything that requieres the most of you (either concentration, brute force, etc.) Drinking water is almost as efficient as taking a 30 second pause and a couple of long breaths. It, like, refills your body with oxygen. I drink a lot of water during an exam or during gym, not because I'm thirsty, but because it relaxes me and helps to stay focus.

[@agustinmezquiriz8400]

+Zoso9391 During an exam or gym? You are a little liar Submissive Zoso9391

[@nastycanadian1975]

Tell me why is it that high level players who just play the runaway/projectile spam it's good but for everyone else it's cheap?

[@dashuntas.m4045]

This match deserved better commentary

[@EyeOfThundera822]

As much as I hate Zero May Cry, I was rooting for Cloud. Great set tho, I sat through the whole thing.

[@estongyamot9123]

what happened on 52:58??!!

[@RareBrink]

Cloud had all his characters left with 5 seconds on the clock. PC recognized he couldn't possible win the match with the time left so he just took a break.

[@Nevesdeath]

Still a very good player regardless.

[@Xeroskia]

Genesis sounds so much like UltraDavid, it's kind of weird..

[@aznc0ffe388]

sick set

[@brandonnlara7186]

What game freaks. I cant even watch all of it either

[@StreetAngeI]

name of game?

[@AndrewKillsss]

Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

[@monchisaldaco5565]

Look at all them needs

[@FaoAmvs]

My cholesterols raising with all this cheese.

[@tricejam5026]

I love hows champ face change after lose 6 in row and keep back to character select screen to ruin cloud tempo . Keep use dirty trick like this .

[@BringTOBIWANback]

A child's game anyways. You can combo anything in this game. Wanna see another Killer Instinct or MvC (one) combo style games, not this easy stuff you can special with just one button. FTS

[@tonyrichengod9280]

Well, Cloud was FIRST to 15 so...

[@DJDIGITAL1983]

It's the same shit over and over.......I guess the trick is popping your combo first. This game starting to get boring.

[@NIGHTMAREx83]

I guess if you're not smart enough to see the reads it could seem that way.

[@DJDIGITAL1983]

blah blah blah........

[@wolvie90]

Did we watch the same match? If so, what the fuck do you want from this game...

[@Pilgrimage85]

Carl Bernroth Maybe the boring part is that everyone uses the same bullshit character shenanigans I like seeing teams that aren't picked. Felicia, Frank, Chun. Always try to learn more instead of sticking with some cheap bullshit that everyone knows

[@DJDIGITAL1983]

Pilgrimage85 Yeah I think that's part of the problem. lol

[@LoftyXsWaGX34]

I still think Mag doom Phoenix is the cheapest team comp in the game.

[@avavsgames1440]

Champ is such a boon ! Spamming on the end? Rly?

[@Rafi0421]

This game is so much spam.. The beating makes the oponent look like a punching bag defying gravity lel..

[@loveandparty4118]

these players are always itchy.

[@haraldvazquez4473]

This Filipino is an homosexual because he uses power and power and don't fight hand to hand...

[@boogie12333]

Filipino champ always changing the rules

[@MigueFlito]

when i say american i mean a black dude LMFAOO

[@SlickTactics]

epic

[@N3t0L1n]

i like p champ salt !

[@tangled55]

Cloud is an awesome, awesome player, but this is literally the WORST I've EVER seen him play. Ever. He does 20x better on any given runback again Clockwork/Infrit whomever. He was making so many poor decisions and dropping so many combos that it really seemed like nerves got to him. And still though, he made it to 15 before Champ. Props.

[@MsMikeltje]

Them combos ar HAX, HAX OP!!

[@yuske05]

CHAMP

[@tumortwomore]

Anyone else notice champ sniffing to much?