HOW TO WIRE A CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEM FROM SCRATCH - S PLAN

[@plumberparts]

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[@Ricky-zj6sy]

As an electrician I have sorted loads of these out for friends and family, plumbers come and change valves and cock the wires up, that and electricians who have no idea what they are doing in the first place leave S-plans in a total mess. Best solution is to pull every wire out of the wiring centre and identify everything wire by wire and reconnect each wire in turn, then prove the functionality of each channel and it's associated stat and valve.

[@johnadams1976]

Cheers for this James.... Just wired up my first mock up board, like yours.... and.... drum roll.... it works!!!!! I didn't think it was working at first, stood back and scratched my head for just over 10seconds and click, it triggered and turned the bulb on! Didn't realise the valves took that long to open and trigger the microswitch. Cheers again.

[@Spiffin84]

Been training at night college now for nearly 2 years an feel I've learnt naff all when I watch your vids as there so much you dont learn there an that I'm picking up from your vids so thanks bud , one day I will watch your vids without a confused look on my face 🤞🤞

[@MenacingPrince]

Hi, My Guy. For about 5yrs I've been learning on the job how to do the wiring. As a plumber, having the knowledge and capability to do it myself instead of getting a sparky to do it is such an achievement. Great video My Guy.

[@plumberparts]

MY GUY!

[@ryanrogers93]

this guys shit, easily done in a 10 way junction and without bodging a blue for a live out

[@adrianoxenham362]

Fantastic bit of kit the boot ferruls and crimper. Can get replacement ferruls from any electrical merchants. Makes the job cleaner, easier to identify andprofessional

[@grahamcourage]

Thanks for this video, I just built an extension and upgraded my single system to a zoned system, I copied your wiring center with a junction box and strip connectors as couldn't find a pre wired box in Ireland but it worked a treat and this video saved me a fortune. Love the channel and thanks again

[@johnspallen3132]

Brilliant James 👏 wish you were around 20 years ago when I saw my first wiring station my mind boggled 👏

[@adamjones3249]

Pretty neat for a plumber! Wago wiring centre is now available instead of stupid terminal blocks

[@stu7738]

Good video, helped loads when self fitting a hive controller and switching from the old mass of wires.. used the Wago box instead but followed the approach in here and all was good.

[@plumberparts]

Cheers!

[@stu7738]

@@plumberparts only issue I have now is how best to ‘take out’ the room thermostat (in hallway near door and garage door so not practical to rely on.. rather have the hive wireless in the room being the main control. Is it as well to take those wires out the loop and just connect up that link?

[@alanwilliams4835]

Great video you have made it simple to understand top man . There’s a little tip for coding of wiring . Where the red tape is used this should be brown as the wiring is the new harmonised wiring ( ie brown and blue ) . You can buy brown, blue , green yellow sleeving from the wholesalers . I have sometimes come across people using the earth and using it as a conductor as they have only run a 3 core to the cylinder stat DON,T. Run a 4 core then everyone is happy . That also applies to the room stat .NEVER USE USE THE EARTH AS A CONDUCTOR EVER . As per regs . Hold tight 🤪

[@georgedeaney7270]

Yep. Do it right or not at all. Too many awful and dangerous jobs out there by "Professionals" and amateurs alike. I work on the principle that I might be the next person back to the job so no point in making it difficult for myself...

[@mrbachittarsingh9243]

Alan Williams hi Alan, you comment demonstrates that you know nothing, stick to taxi driving, regards, bob.

[@anthonybird5425]

Another great vid Jimbo! You explain things in such a clear and easy way to understand, it makes things so much easier! Unknowingly you’ve helped me out massively in the past with your videos, keep up the good work you legend 👊🏻

[@georgedeaney7270]

Dont use tape to identify switched live as it will go sticky, and red tape!. Use the proper brown sleeving. It will look more professional.🤗

[@plumberparts]

Yeah didn't have any! I've used it before and its great!

[@georgedeaney7270]

@@plumberparts Keep up the good work, enjoy your vids. Yours and all the rest of KZbin's content comming in handy in the current climate. At least yours come from experience and not some rehashed copy of a copy by someone who has never been near tools. Oh like the tune at the end. Second career?.

[@plumberparts]

@@georgedeaney7270 I wish! Would probably pay better. If you get a moment check out the old Ale Army Beer Club I've got going. Chat about beer and plumbing...random I know!

[@georgedeaney7270]

@@plumberparts Just an old red Wino is me, but just might give it a go.

[@charliewillis8527]

Dont tell him that he only knows the F T D way lol

[@syncrosimon]

good for you showing how its done and big enough to take any flack. this video has helped me a great deal.

[@tonypybus8003]

Absolutely Brilliant!! Only comment I would pick up on is that instead of using red tape I would suggest using brown sleeving on the blue and the black cables. Blue being the current neutral standard and black being the old system. I hate seeing tape used just because with age it becomes a sticky mess and if I need to trim it later getting it off can be right pain in the rectum. See you on Thursday for a pint - Hold Tight!!

[@plumberparts]

Cheers Tony! Expected a few sign ups yesterday. Had 4000 views and not one sign up on Patreon! I wonder why? Any thoughts?! 😂

[@davezeraschi7936]

plumberparts because a lot of people want something for nothing mate.

[@dan290571]

Love your videos, used your soldering tutorial to fix a screw through a pipe at my friends, thank you.

[@Woodzy13]

Thanks for this pal very informative. Gonna watch a couple more times then let it sink in! Plus I have to say I love the wiring 👍🏻 I’ve been a plumber for over fifteen years and have seen some really really messy wiring centres. If only they were all like this one….. 😂

[@yutpx]

Excellent demo on how to wire up system, and the neatness of the job is superb! Now could you do this job for me?

[@mattiecave]

Mate this is excellent - really helped me understand (as have numerous other videos you’ve done). Plus they’re hilarious - HOLD TIGHT (good catch too 🤣)

[@plumberparts]

Cheers man! ❤️

[@julienparpet]

I just bought a house which has an f&e system with no stats or programmer. Just a time clock to turn on the heating which will also do the hot water. The boiler is in a boiler house which is built on to the house. I am planning on having a room stat upstairs and downstairs, a 2 zone programmer under the distribution board downstairs but where is the best place to fit the motorised valves? I will be able to run multicore cables for my connections. Loving the videos man!

[@MansourNaghdi]

Hi Thank you for your kind and easy to understand explanation. Would wrong flow direction of the zone valve cause problems such as boiler not firing !? I have a S system with a heating boiler only in one floor lower and the valves, pump and hot water tank in upper floor. I have changed 3 zone valves and a new pump, the boiler does not fire. I keep reseting the boiler, the indicator diode for heating becomes green but goes off again. It remains in stand by position. Any advise please !? Thx

[@patrickryan7385]

Can you use that system without room thermostats and use an app to open and shut the valves

[@jameelamini]

I love this video, honestly I must have watched a million videos before this one, and no one says it as easy as you - finally got the confidence to try out my own wiring centre. Question: How would the wiring differ if I had two stats and valves for CH (one upstairs and one downstairs) and then one for HW, and my programmer could do them all separately? I assume if I doubled up the wiring from each stat to each CH valve as you said here, I wouldn't be able to do the separate controls since either room stat would trigger the boiler for the whole house and not separate?

[@alanjones9885]

Jimmy thank you! Just about to have a go at installing an Evohome system and your video was really helpful thank you!

[@chandreshvarsani2190]

i would say as a best practise that zone valves can be ferruled together PROVIDED something like Regin 5 Way Electrical Connector with Strain Relief are installed between each zone and wirin centre for maintainance and testing. also allow in situ replacement with having to power the whole Heating system just to swap out a zone valve

[@plumberparts]

Extra belly scrubs if you can guess the cricketer who took THAT catch! (also I forgot my tool belt in this video!)

[@Jammydodgers41]

Andrew strauss in the greatest ashes series ever

[@nigelmiddleton2727]

Great video James 👍it's the same system as I have in my home so could come in very useful one day. Hope you don't think I'm being cheeky but I have a small leak under my sink form the mains water supply filter? That's if it is indeed a filter? Its situated just after theater regulator? I can't source the part anywhere, probably because I don't know what it is? 🤔 kind regards Nigel

[@chandreshvarsani2190]

thanks you so much for finally putting up this video which i asked you for many years ago, can i please request another similar video showing S Plan Plus using smart heating controls such as that like Hive multi-zone setup for multiple heating zone and hot water . Top man :)

[@chrisharrison8494]

The song at the end creased me! 😂 Great vid mate 😁

[@davidkidner6648]

If you are going to put 2 cables into one bootlace you should use a double bootlace and also your cable should just protrude through the bootlace

[@DISCOTECHS]

Hi I am just about to build a system like this using an Ideal Mexico boiler which does not have appear to have a pump overrun. So i assume pump is in parralel with boiler. Also, these busbar pieces for behind N and E, are these included in the Timeguard box, or are they bought sepatate ? Thanks

[@tombickerton4114]

Just a tip for you . You shouldn’t put two cables into the same ferrules. There is a specific dual one .

[@garethrendle3766]

bootleg ferules are great until you have to trace a fault on the system and end up cutting the ferule off to separate wires to test, then some will be too short to re-connect. there are pros and cons to this. You should also have brown sleeving on any Line conductors that are not already brown.

[@mrbachittarsingh9243]

Gareth Rendle doubt you've been anywhere near a multi meter, I'll have fries with that thanks Gareth.

[@garethrendle3766]

bob bob how would you possibly know what experience I have? What a stupid comment!

[@garnettholness3116]

Fantastic presentation blue live to pump Spot on !!

[@whitefields5595]

Handsome. As I am locked down, I am thinking of converting my Y plan to S plan. I don't really like the 3 port valve buzzing and like the simplicity and controllability of S plan. What are the downsides?

[@davidlax9454]

There are non

[@skewwhiff9423]

Nice vid, great advice, good accents. Some advice in return from a production bod - love the wiring up to the light bulb, but if you laid out your circuit on a tabletop, rather than on the wall, you could position your camera overhead and so you avoid getting in the way of the subject. This will cut your edit time too. You could also reduce the frame size on wiring so you can annotate outside of the main subject (so there's a border of white space). If you're running 2 cameras have the 2nd on you. Some of the mid shot explanations mean the viewer can see what you're pointing at so clearly. That's how I'd do it - simples (for you and the viewer). Anyhow, is that getting a proper moan on?! Great free resource - now I've just got to see how to apply it with a wireless room stat (and pull out all the individual connectors loosely strapped into a box by the original installer - who didn't bother with any kind of stat. Nice!).

[@surendrasinghdhanjal5835]

Excellent video and explained properly.

[@nathanmcgee2732]

Hey, great video, as always! Why do you connect the grey MV cables to a constant live and not the CH on / HW on from the programmer? Doesn't this mean the boiler will run continuously if the valve fails in the open position?

[@socialscene6361]

No, because it's the orange wires - switch return wires from the valve that fires up the boiler.

[@rickymckeown5678]

Great vid. Has helped me get my head around heating wiring before watching this it all just looked like a bunch of random wires

[@andrewbickle3806]

Great video. Thanks. Any chance you could do a video of hive installs? Combi and s plan? Cheers

[@Gixer750pilot]

Keyboard Warriors “Activated”

[@plumberparts]

Ahhhh we’ve had a few! Have you signed up on Patreon mate? Thursday lives are great!

[@alanmarriott9216]

Class video and we’ll explained. Do you have a video mate for Y plan showing same? Cheers pal

[@codegreen5213]

Hi mate, thanks for this video really good, earned a sub! I have a problem where my Hive system was working for 2 years, suddenly when I request central heating then it lights up like it's requesting it from the boiler, but the boiler doesn't start up. It works when I request hot water though. Any idea what colour wire I'm probably looking for in my wiring centre? I can trace the 2 wires from my Hive unit that request hot water, or central heating, but I don't know what they should be connected to in the wiring centre. Cheers from York!

[@stylez4021]

i know your not a teacher but im an heating and plumbing apprentice and want to learn about s plan c plan etc just wondered if you knew the best place to go about this for diagrams and stuff?

[@MAMDAVEM]

Great if you could do a Y plan version and show how to wire-up smart thermostats :)

[@plumberparts]

Will do!

[@redemptionwins]

@@plumberparts you done it yet?😂

[@erf401]

Small amenments on the back lid's chart. No 6 marks as (SW/L to Heating Prog) which should be ( L/COM to Heating Prog) No 8 marks as (SW/L to HotWater Prog) which should be ( L/COM to Hotwater Prog) Great video James

[@magicgsuk6312]

Anything you can send/suggest to buy as need get wiring down to a T for fault finding. I know the sequence of operation but need something to read over.

[@salmansarwar9977]

A beautiful way of wiring no doubt

[@timevans2086]

Hi. Nice bit of work but I remember you saying you were colourblind, if you weren't joking, should you be wiring this box?

[@ChristianBHough]

Hi James. Here's a question for you.... I'm 37 now. Have been plumbing for a few years and am OFTEC. When I can justify the spend in a couple of years, is it still worth getting a Gas qualification? What's your opinion on Hydrogen boilers and how do you think the roll out will happen. Lay new pipes, or slowly introduce boilers that will cope with a blend and as boilers age and get replaced, upgrade to a boiler that can take a higher blend or is there going to be millions of boilers getting swapped out in a short period of time? When all this malarkey 😷 is over, let me know when you're passing by the Maids Head by the fens, I'll buy you a drink🍺.

[@markgilder9990]

Christian B Hough One of the gas boys told me that new builds after 2030 will not have gas boilers installed. But there are still millions of gas boilers that will still need servicing etc. Renewable energy seems the way to go with ground source heat pumps and solar etc.

[@Gixer750pilot]

We all like a tidy box with no stragglers poking out

[@davezeraschi7936]

If you want James to interact with you then become a Patreon. The ale army is fucking great. Beers and chat Thursday evenings at 7 what else would you be doing. Get on it about 3 quid a month. And he’ll help you loads. Hold tight!

[@garyredfern2542]

Awesome video. Really helpful 👍

[@zedman442]

Got the Same crimper it’s bootiful! What you think about those wago wiring centres?

[@ManinderSingh-go4gh]

Great video James, really helpful for me.. you star James ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 👍😁

[@joanofarc708]

Great stuff very well explained

[@gabeerlazem7798]

That was a great lesson. Bless you ❤️🙏

[@jeffkay1720]

Hi. New to heating electrics and you make excellent vids, cant say how much they help. . Some systems have hot water priority but this S plan 2x2 port system appears to work independently or in tandem, with no priority. Am I correct? Is it only Y plan that has priority?

[@popandu1170]

May be about to throw a spanner in the works here... I think its fair to say the general consensus is NOT to crimp solid core but I am guessing you have in this example?

[@obviouslytwo4u]

Video idea : make a video about the cheapest tools that have been useful af. I think many will see how easy you can build a decent tool kit

[@ON-THE-DRIVEWAY]

15 years plumbing can't fine 1 yes 1 spraky to wire up and S plan of A cmbi plus for underfloor heating, can you post a video on wiring up a 2 post vavle set on a combi????? 👍 Good video by the way 👏

[@scottsparky1]

Great job and good vid as always. Only thing I can see wrong is that the first wire. The cord grip isn't on the outer sheth of the flex but apart from that all good

[@mrbachittarsingh9243]

Scott Thompson you know nothing, stick to making mcmuffins.

[@1986rikki]

Great video and nice music ;) been part of both ale army nights. It's a good laugh and just the ticket at times like this. Even though the only person drinking ale is James! It should just be called AA Club :)

[@plumberparts]

Yay! Can’t figure out why, after 4000 views, not ONE PERSON signed up! 😂

[@rajnirvan3336]

Have you tried Wago connectors and box yet

[@salmansarwar9977]

I must say I learned something from you thanks

[@riflesports1]

hi James, what happened to the y plan wiring video???????

[@moulesanctuary]

Great video .. but the tune at the end did it for me .. genius .. sounding like Tame Impala !!!

[@1981kurczak]

do you have to use any diagram??looks easy :) but everything you do looks easy :)

[@davenderdhanju9518]

Help full person love you to much

[@andrewbickle3806]

Great video. 👍

[@Davnatandale]

Can you do a Y plan one for us mate?

[@newcastleboilermaintenance4956]

Really useful. Thank you

[@tomspeakman5030]

Great vid James, learning loads from your vids, a perfect distraction from work! Ha ha. I'm just converting my 1930s place in Essex from storage heaters to a wet system. Would love it if you could do a video on multi zone central heating, looking at doing a zone per floor. Thanks Again!! Keep up the good work!!

[@dritantani9207]

Hello. I'm struggling to wire a three way valve with motorized actuator with three wires blue black brown on a Audax 8 heating pump. Can't figure out how the reverse motion will occur from the diagram . Any idea pls?

[@nickgascoigne1407]

Also a small note, from a sparky perspective, red is now brown.. (just to confuse matters) /: ;)

[@waynenixon729]

From the programmer you had the Brown wire as call for Hot Water and the Black for call for Heating, But you talk about a red wire for call for Hot water going down the white to the cylinder stat (common) and the yellow being the switched call for heat from the cylinder stat. In the diagram you have it labelled as red from programmer for call for Hot water. Confusing! lol

[@uselessgamer234]

So I have an old tank system, there is no programmer that we know of/can find, there is a junction box and then a light switch, one for hot water, one for heating and a stat down stairs. So far no one has managed to work out why my heating get stuck on sometimes, even electrictions, could a missing programmer cause this?

[@1000hillas]

Great video. Could you please do one as above but with under floor heating. Cheers. 👍😊

[@damianeast6288]

Can't get my head around my system that I want to add ufh to, can I get some advice please 🙏

[@LynGriffiths70]

Thank you.. wiring stations fry my head !

[@cidosales9513]

Great video bro

[@BarryPaffey]

The only thing wrong with using the ferrules is they don't come in different size/colour combinations to represent the circuit they're being used for, which would be nice. Hopefully, as they get used more the manufacturers will cotton on and make all the colours available in all the sizes?

[@plumberparts]

This is the biggest gripe for me too!

[@mirceapalade4415]

Hi Does anyone know how to connect a Daikin combi boiler to a S Plan wiring diagram ? What kind of changes need to be made to adapt the initial circuit to the boiler's combi terminals? Thanks

[@henryhudson1984]

Hi buddy. Love the plumbing vids. Just learning about how to plumb up my new build. Any chance you can share something about an air source heat pump with underfloor heating system? Cheers. H T!

[@joeb1642]

What happened to the Y-plan wiring video? Also, have you ever used the WAGO wiring centres?

[@MenacingPrince]

I find that the wago stuff is good for temp work - feel that using their wiring centers would be such a waste of money.

[@d.r.plumbingheating3298]

James you will love a Wago box. Trust me I’m a plumber.

[@plumberparts]

Y plan coming up!

[@markgilder9990]

I’mPlumbers using Ferrules,. That’s a novelty.😂😎 Times I’m called out by the plumber to sort out his mistake.😂🙄

[@Truevisionsolutions]

Wago L32 junction box is the way to go makes life much quicker! But still this way is good.

[@lexdaniloff]

I loVe you mate, thanks a lot, was always scared of wires, after i watched your video i successfully wired megaflow and nest. I own you a beer now:)

[@Kebabicide]

I bought those same crimps but there's no BSEN number, and no rating. It's assumption only that suggests they can handle full load/capacity of wire. And what are they made of? Not aluminium hopefully, with a copper cable being inserted. What's the continuity results for these circuits, did the crimps effect the readings at all? Just curious. It's a shame i couldn't watch all video as i wanted some tips for wiring an s-plan for an assessment, hopefully no one gets electrocuted from your mis labelled switch lives as you seem like an nice guy.😁🤞🤞⚡💥💥⚡

[@jamesball7381]

Please could you do a video on how to move a toilet and sink to the opposite wall of a bathroom/ how to plumb a new toilet and sink in a room with no previous plumbing?

[@plumberparts]

I’ll add it to the list!

[@jamesball7381]

@@plumberparts Thank you!

[@rajnirvan3336]

I love real ales too as I'm a member of CAMRA

[@davidoshea1536]

Great video bud 👌. Could you do a video on a Y plan system and wiring smart thermostat's 👊

[@PBSONE555]

Great tune!

[@georgieoates5776]

Use sleaving easier tgan tape plus new ours brown is live

[@charliewillis8527]

Lovely bodge up as allways stick to getting pissed up you make a good job of that lol

[@plumberparts]

Yesssss son!

[@Khanjan-si8me]

Thanks 🙏

[@jameshansing5396]

Plumbers doing wiring.... OUCH!!!!!!!

[@eamoncorrigan3936]

Hi, Stanley twin burner , oil vortex burner and a wood fired stove to heat a 2500 square feet 2 storey house. Plumber has recommended a Multi Pod system. Downstairs has under floor heating . Upstairs has rads. I’m an Electrician but there’s no schematic issued by plumber.. The home owner wants the Stanley twin burner in the kitchen. With the condenser boiler outside as back up. There’s probably no need for both but the client wants what the client wants. Can any one out there tell me where to get a wiring system at a reasonable cost. The multi pod takes the three heat sources but only has one heat output. So the cooker and burner might share the motorised valves. Will I have back feeds ? I’d prefer a wiring system or control box to take care of this

[@train4905]

Brilliant

[@alanwalsh4816]

Great Video James really hit the Bullseye with what I needed to know. It would be good if we could just send a price of a Ale or two Without subscribing too say Thank You when Your Videos hit The Bullseye

[@plumberparts]

Haha! Good stuff mate. I think you can send a tip of £1.99 (barely a half!) via the join button.

[@samcayless5687]

Just brought the crimping set off your amazon store! Oh and when’s the album coming out? 🤣