Pocahontas: The Real Story That Disney Didn't Tell | Love And Survival | Absolute History

The romantic tale of the Native American teenager, Pocahontas, and John Smith is an American legend. Was it really a love story or the figment of a vivid imagination? The truth of Pocahontas' life is subject to the interpretation of both the oral and written accounts, which contradict one another. She lives on through her own people, who are still here today, and through the descendants of her two sons.
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[@lizfraiser3993]

There is no romance between an 11-13 year-old child and a nearly 30-year-old adult. Can we please stop framing this story as a romance? ETA: I know things were different back then and this kind of age gap was common. I know girls were often married at a young age. I'm not trying to apply modern morals to 17th century people. My complaint is that here we are, in the 21st century, still framing this story as romantic (even when acknowledging it was likely there was no romantic/sexual relationship between the two). She was kidnapped, pressured to convert to Christianity, married to a much older white man, and then taken from her homeland. My issue is that people are still framing this as romantic, when it's a story about an indigenous woman being trafficked, which is still a very real problem. Matoaka is one of the first, and best recorded, cases of a missing or murdered indigenous woman. This is an ongoing crisis in North America and continuing to see Matoaka's story through rose colored lenses is frankly disrespectful to say the least. How we tell stories about our past is incredibly important. TLDR: I'm not talking about how things were done in the 17th century, I'm talking about how the story is being told by modern people. Matoaka isn't a tragic heroine, she's the poster girl for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Woman.

[@kelseyling987]

Its not a story of love smh at the intro

[@kimarm2608]

There was no love story in this case you are correct. However it’s not due to age, after all 11-13 year old girls sadly married 30plus year old men lots back then ….in lots of countries still do

[@dietlindvonhohenwald448]

Wasn’t she 16? Wasn’t normal marriage age 15/16 among Native tribes? Life expectancy was much lower then, barely 50 or less

[@lizfraiser3993]

@@dietlindvonhohenwald448 The general age rage for her at the time she met John Smith (the relationship they kept referring to as a romance) was 10-13. She was probably about 16 when she married, which wasn't uncommon at the time, you're right. But the video didn't romanticize the marriage as much as her relationship with Smith, which is what grossed me out.

[@melanieortiz712]

@@lizfraiser3993 even her marriage was a forced one

[@Madseason6x9]

I've been reading a book that her tribe wrote of their oral history . I recommend reading that side of the story. Pocahontas was severely depressed and repeatedly raped during that time period. It's tragic. Many of her tribe members believe she was poisoned.

[@meteoritessound1673]

if she was raped then the movie gives me anxiety

[@mitchmacfayden9535]

Book name?

[@lildragonzfu]

book name?

[@iDrownedScream]

Whats the books name?

[@amberleigh5963]

Can we get the book name

[@kimtaylor3710]

I am a citizen of the Pamunkey Tribe, Chief Powhatan, Wahunsonacock and Pocahontas’ tribe. Please get our people to speak on this subject. I’m tired of non-natives Narrative and Perspective. Our voices need to heard, let us speak about her with our Narrative and Perspective and not non-natives or people from other Native tribes.

[@whelkpeopleofdoom]

I would LOVE to watch a Native American creator educate about Native culture and history. If someone has any channels to recommend, please let me know.

[@Brap-pl2me]

It’s not like your people kept any records. So any perspective you have is just going to be argumentative hearsay.

[@vanessita4138]

Dang. Like that? 😮 ​@@Brap-pl2me

[@lorettacastorini]

@@Brap-pl2meyou’re gross

[@blakebuckley1018]

@@Brap-pl2methat’s the same with the English peoples, they just wrote what they wanted, could be lies, could be truth we don’t know

[@kellyshomemadekitchen]

One thing everyone ought to remember is that “history” is written by the winners of whatever situation, war, etc. Also think about the word history in a terminology format….His-story notice it’s not His-fact…js

[@Perun.Tha.Unvaxxd]

🎯🎯🎯💪😎

[@kellysouter4381]

History is from a Latin word that doesn't really have the same connotations.

[@ashleelarsen5002]

Right? Dude is *dead* what's he gonna say

[@ashleelarsen5002]

@@kellysouter4381 Latin died last century, it's sad, I blame Instagram.

[@SK-jq8um]

It's origin is Latin from the Greek historia of Indo-European root, same as wit. In a round about way it is always the winner, then again the world being flat was a scare tactic of seafaring people to keep others from searching and having access to their newly found resources. Copper mines around the Great Lakes have been the main source for copper that brought on the Bronze Age. Keeping people in the dark and scared is the easiest way to conquer the world. In 100 yrs a majority of history will be rewritten with scientific proof of dna and dating technology. The majority of academia are still trying to cling to their theories but their time is running out.

[@anndriggers6660]

What a sad story! She never saw her father or her home again. England is no match for the rolling hills, towering peaks, vast meadows and crystal clear waters of home. This broke my heart...

[@kscott2655]

The actual real story (not told in this video) would really break your heart. This is a retelling of a myth, not history, and it's no longer accepted by historians who actually take Native Americans into account and not the writings of white men resurfaced after the revolutionary war presented as the truth.

[@sprPee]

English countryside is stunning

[@steve-us2hg]

@@sprPeewanna talk about the food

[@keetykeetymeowmeow]

You're being nice, but this was the least of her issues. Poor woman. 💔

[@17redbuttons]

This is a really infuriating way of describing child rape.

[@elananova]

Exactly! Thank you! And the way Disney makes this into some kind of love story...sickening.

[@oliviaaugust5744]

Seriously, it's gagworthy

[@melanieortiz712]

Forced marriage of child bride

[@FBIcounterscammerdepartment]

At least this was 400 years ago Islam still doing this today.🤢

[@dylanherron3963]

@@FBIcounterscammerdepartment dude that is the 4th time you've made this exact comment about Islam on this video. We get it, you no likey.

[@roi0672]

Hi, I am one of the 300,000 relatives of Pocahontas, aka Matoaka. I’m trying to learn more about my culture, since American schools don’t acknowledge us enough. I belong in one of the most connected families to her, the Bowling’s, located in southeastern Kenctuky. Almost all my life I was raised as a “white girl”, and even though I am, I still have a small piece in me, more than some. To me that is my goal to learn more of. I want to be proud of who I am, and in order to do that I need to know who I am, starting with my ancestors. No I am not that one person who gets offended over everything, expect the Disney movie, “Pocahontas”. It’s hard to offend me, but this movie takes one of my oldest relatives and romanticizes her trauma, and completely changed her story. Yes, I’m glad they made an Indian “princess”, but she really wasn’t a princess. This is all I know of her before watching this video: She was kidnapped in 1613, she was forced to convert to Christianity and was baptized. She then changed her name to Rebecca. At the age of only 17-18 she got married and had her son, Thomas Rolfe. She moved to London, where she was know as the “civilized savage”. She was very popular for this. She died soon at the young age of 20-21.

[@Koraeffect]

That’s why it’s so important for elders to pass down knowledge through stories. You should reach out to your community to help build a foundation of your lineage history.

[@Hartleymolly]

It’s very rare to find an all native American, have you done a DNA test to prove your ancestry?

[@Zombina638]

No.

[@JerriRobertson1976]

​@@Hartleymollymy Aunt done our family tree and there is documents proving that I'm Pocahontas great great great great granddaughter by 13. I don't know about this woman here but there is documents that I have.

[@roi0672]

@@Hartleymolly yes

[@angelaparker4110]

Not the first British settlement. The fishing camp that became St. John’s, Newfoundland was. However, Jamestown was the first GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED colony; at least 30 years prior, British officials went to the fishing village to collect taxes. They were told to FO. The British company took taxes by force and left. They were never seen again.

[@hijabihomegirl8749]

"Native American princess" isn't a thing. Native tribes have leaders,not a monarchy. No such thing as a native princess, that's whitewashed terminology.

[@angelamaryfussey3461]

Truth!

[@alicerivierre]

I never knew that. Peter Pan lied to me!

[@dannschmit8604]

No such thing as a king, queen, prince or princess in any race in reality. It's all made up. By those who called themselves kings and queens way back when it all started. Wish people would realize this and start getting back to reality. Just because they control all the money and have all the money doesn't make them a queen or king or anything except greedy. In fact, it makes me sick that they let people have hardships and struggles while they are up on their high horse with all the money that could help so many not have to struggle or have hardships. Leaders are suppose to make it so their people are taken care of, have opportunities to make a better life for themselves, and make sure everything runs smoothly and no one needs for anything because they can get it. It's all about all of us doing right by each other. Helping those who need help, using our talents and skills to better humanity. Not ruin it, which is what is happening with this monetary system. Brings the evil in.

[@ruthanneseven]

It may not be "a Thing", according to you, but Chieftains had sons daughters. Chiefs were leaders, so the honorific title would be King, and so on. Europe was rife with small kingdoms at one time. Even im my kifetime, I have been recognised as a Medicine Woman by some members of the Jimenez people, and my help was welcomed. People will be recognized for who and what they are, whether "it's a thing" or not. That is Meritocracy. "Nobless Oblige", anther term I doubt you understand, is of two, the Noble will care for the one who is not., who in turn, may become ennobled themselves through honest emulation and deeds. There is Truth, and there is the Facade of True Being. THAT'S a thing.

[@jessridd9737]

The only thing similar would be the reward some tribes bestow upon young ladies that show exemplary service to their communities. They don't rule over anything. That is a foreign concept.

[@davidsherman1915]

I recently learned that Pocahontas is my 12th Great-Grandmother. I never knew any of this information until I learned of our connection.

[@enricaalbaro1490]

You and Wayne Newton. (No really)

[@BeaHapi]

She’s my 11th GGM!

[@ThePixiixiq]

Not romantic but highly romanticized! Eery narration, just one example: "there were no women and children to absorb the agression".

[@PhoenixLyon]

Yeah, that was rather grating.✌️😺

[@anissaholmes4495]

I just drove past Jamestown and wondered why they didn’t get closer to a water source. The video explained everything.

[@KingBasieSims4]

Yeah... I feel like this was another Disney version of the story of Pocahontas but otherwise great story telling.

[@snickersberet4792]

No.. it's just another leftist swamp ridden pack of lies to sell to the American public cause most are asleep anyway..

[@Purplefishish]

It take a certain kind of arrogance/ignorance to settle in an uninhabited place, and not once stop and wonder why no-one was living in this supposed amazingly good spot.

[@madarab37]

Because they were ordered to colonize an area away from Spanish guns. They mention it earlier in the video.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

I'm from Virginia I have been there many many times. One ancestor arrived there in 1609. They later moved into the mountains around,1760

[@kellysouter4381]

Kirk Morrison is a Scottish sounding name.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

@@kellysouter4381 Aye it is, but my PC was a first ancestor here was from York, the rest were from Scotland, Ireland abiit of Welsh And about half, Ñative American (Cherokee mostly.)

[@brriecheese3]

@@kirkmorrison6131 here as well! I found everything out years and years after my adoption

[@kirkmorrison6131]

@@brriecheese3 that's great my cousin was adopted

[@BreGrateful]

Being born in Virginia and living in Newport News and by the Chesapeake bay. This history has always been fascinating to me. They teach you a lot in school but it’s so filtered out.

[@BrunoGabrielAraujoLebtag]

This video tells more about who wrote it than Pocahontas...

[@wendymoyer782]

Disney has never been interested in history, accuracy, or anything resembling reality.

[@kscott2655]

I almost stopped watching at the introduction when they said she was "entranced" with an English man and that it was a story of love. No, there is no love story here. Stop perpetuating that falsehood. Yet another retelling of a myth presented as history.

[@selmavukotic1320]

Ok, this channel should be called “English Absolute History”

[@ordyhorizonrivieredunord712]

Sadly U.S. of A. got rid of most Indians left in New England with the Indian removal act and many of them survived barely after many struggles by escaping to Canada and those who stayed in the US are still struggling for survival as the European settlers wanted it all for themselves and are still professing racism and smugness even until today. 🐺.

[@amberleigh5963]

Facts

[@Chemist_mama]

14:10-ish : “there are no women or children to help absorb the growing aggression” What the heck is that supposed to mean?! 🧐 I hope it’s not what I think they’re trying to say…😭

[@LeighWeidner]

No way to replace the men that died without women or at least kids who would grow up. I don't think it was intended to mean women and kids were human shields or war fodder directly.

[@madarab37]

They weren't having children there so the population was dropping, from disease, starvation, and attack.

[@keetykeetymeowmeow]

No one of their kind to rape and pillage.

[@dylanherron3963]

You all here taking the piss on Absolute History as if they themselves made this don't even realize this documentary aired on regular television cable in 2009. This entire documentary highlights the fabrication of the romanticism of the legend(ary tale) of Pocohontas. It pokes holes in what we've been taught. So many of you virtue signaling in the comments "I cannot believe you would try to paint this as romantic, I WILL NOT be finishing this documentary-" CONGRATULATIONS! you misinterpreted the entire reason this film piece was made and showed the world that you don't believe in underage marriage, and then everyone clapped! For everyone pissing about the title, yes, this aired on regular cable television when KZbin was in total infancy. It's a high-value production film piece that I imagine was very expensive, and the director/crew would have liked to make money off of it, by pitching it to different cable networks. How do ya do that? A snazzy title reflective of the romanticism this story has gained for 400 years, because aesthetics matter. Jesus man, I've given up on society being well-read but some of you don't even WATCH things correctly.

[@jillianvirginiathaggard2289]

What, an amazing story and very interesting. Is there a statue of Pocahontas somewhere in Virginia?

[@ShoutItFromTheHousetops]

“History” is only what we’ve been told by our handlers…the rest is history. ☺️

[@TisDana]

Definitely

[@kellysouter4381]

Aside from cancel culture, it's usually what was written by those who were there and saw things happen.

[@delia_watercolors]

@@kellysouter4381 and the individuals who left first-hand accounts have bias and motives of their own. The need for credible sources has *always* existed. Men are fallible. That is why it is always best to research the author, to the best of ones ability, if information is available. And, never take something at face value. Having multiple "credible" sources of proof is best, though of course that is not always possible. (Edited for clarity).

[@harrybriscoe7948]

There is something wrong with you if you think Disney cartoons are documentaries

[@blueeyedscorpio7]

Shouldn't we take the statue of John Smith down?!

[@QueenCityHistory]

I think they would’ve sounded British…having just come from there..

[@TheBrorsdotter]

To be fair, The English of the 1600s didn't sound like the English of today. Theories are that it was actually more similar to a modern south-state accent than the modern

[@DAZE328]

I happen to be 1 of the 15000ish ancestors of Pocahontas and my Wife is related to John Smith, lol. He was in his late 20s and she was 11 or 12...no love story here. John Smith was a liar and told his stories over and over again. At least it tells of her anger for him...

[@atruckin_hairstylist6645]

Claiming a land already home to people 🤦🏾‍♀️ugh. 🙄

[@PennStacker]

It’s been happening for thousands of years. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@TisDana]

This channel is awesome! Thank you. 🙏🏻

[@Tochinden]

When will people learn that Disney movies are no documentary 😅 it's cartoons loosely based on otjer stories/fairy tales/folklores...

[@clarkepi2011]

Why does that John Smith actor looks like lil Ed from 90 days fiancé? 😩😩

[@vanessita4138]

😂😂😂😂 can't unsee it 😅

[@leeroberts925]

I have a nephew that researched our family tree and was by my sister his mother we are linked to pocahontas and our name is Roberts ariganated from Grayson County Virginia in a valley called Roberts Cove

[@dendrosity]

Pocahontas had a sex addiction. There are multiple journal entries from a handful of settlers backing this up. One commonality amongst the settlers' writings was that she had a preference for white men. She was banned from her home village because she was caught sneaking white men in to her teepee on more than one occasion.

[@real_hello_kitty]

Thanks! Very informative.

[@corinnepmorrison1854]

True world history is fascinating... Thank you!! 🌎

[@ashleelarsen5002]

20:00 psychopath 4 sure

[@melanieortiz712]

This is still colonized telling

[@ashleelarsen5002]

@@melanieortiz712 fun! Thanks, I was super bored

[@GeckoHiker]

Pocahontas had two sons. She was separated from her first son after she was kidnapped. What happened to her first son?

[@yasminesacristan5855]

I’m so glad you didn’t glamorized this story. I was not going to watch this because I thought it was going to be another humiliating Pocahontas video. Thank you for the truth.

[@alicerivierre]

I know. I still love the Disney movie, but I only think that's a half-truth to the real story, if not, botched up. I still do love The Colors of the Wind. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Alejojojo6]

How its humiliating Pocahontas?

[@yasminesacristan5855]

@@Alejojojo6 this video isn’t but the Disney version makes it seem like she was treated well by the English

[@kscott2655]

Watch the Biographics video about her and then decide if you think this version is glamorized.

[@melanieortiz712]

Still not truthful.

[@keetykeetymeowmeow]

Someone elsewhere in the comments suggested that if you want accuracy, try the oral history version published by her tribal ancestors: "The True Story of Pocahontas, the other side of History" by Custalow & Daniels

[@JustinDOehlke]

Oh man, this broke my heart

[@ashleelarsen5002]

That you didn't meet her first?

[@JustinDOehlke]

@@ashleelarsen5002 Why is this your reaction to my comment? Or, how even did you make that leap?

[@ashleelarsen5002]

@@JustinDOehlke oh *please!* "Justin, he is a hetero boy's dream, minus the dad. How right was I?

[@JustinDOehlke]

@@ashleelarsen5002 This video is about Pocahontas in case you missed that.

[@ashleelarsen5002]

@@JustinDOehlke yes JUSTIN the "tour guide" of your dreams

[@SamSung-gm3mn]

Kia ora, I'm from New Zealand and my son son is a descendant of this beautiful woman 💖 Where can I register his name in that book she were talking about?

[@nathaliebleser3007]

Do you know how some of the descendants ended up living in New Zealand? I find this fascinating

[@alyssayaki]

Before I watch this, do the producers consult with any native American people? Or is it just white all around? this doc looks to be made in like the 90s, before it was widely acknowledged that hey maybe we should consult the actual peoples who were passed down this story, not just the white scholars whose main resources were written by the (white) "winners" of history

[@cynthiathomas6690]

The actual people are dead. How are you going to ask them. Even the descendants don't know the truth.

[@Navajo9420]

You know that the white man will never bother to learn how natives work. I mean, just listen to the 'war cries' they portrayed in this. I'm native and never have i heard broken screaming and caveman-like shouting as a war cry. At least they didn't make the actors slap their hands over their mouths like most stereotypical portrayals do. Ugh. Nobody will ever know the true beauty of the native culture and history, unless they seek it out on purpose. Hopes are too high that these people wanted to dig deeper than the surface. Sigh.

[@alyssayaki]

@@Navajo9420 yeah it's so sad that with them in charge we will never know the full true history of so many peoples... I do feel that if this documentary was made more recently that they would've done a better job, producers over even the past decade have gotten more wise to "hey maybe we should talk to the people who actually know the stories instead of just reading 'scholarly' books"

[@kscott2655]

No, this documentary is a terrible perpetuation of myth based on the writings of white men.

[@Jabberstax]

Get off your high horse.

[@dietlindvonhohenwald448]

Imagine going out into unknown and uncharted territory in those days and not knowing what you might find. Today only space is left to explore…

[@melanieortiz712]

And the ocean

[@souksalasith4535]

@@melanieortiz712 was looking for this comment to be honest we probably know more of space ( at least our galaxy ) then our oceans

[@laurab1673]

oof, from the intro alone, i know this isn’t accurate. shameful

[@dgonthehill]

great story, thnx

[@melanieortiz712]

More white washed bs

[@Alistair-gi3bx]

They gloss over that explosion narrative very quickly. It was gun powder in his lap that exploded leading to injuries in his groin area.

[@real_hello_kitty]

Interesting 🧐.

[@pigtailtrucker4672]

🤣 😂 😅

[@atimidbirb]

... well deserved imo xD

[@stoprussiazawaldo6164]

18:29 this is when i realized this IS NOT the true story of Pocahontas and stopped watching. She was 10 and the tribe would not let any children to be in ceremonies especially if theres an english man hostage. And the use of the word “Princess” is white-washed terminology, there was no royal system in this tribe she was the Chief’s daughter not a princess. The actor for Pocahontas looks 16-17 to make this seem like a love story like Disney wants it to seem like, SHE WAS 10 and he was in his 20-30s. If John admitted any feelings towards her that’s disgusting, but The children in this tribe were very well-watched over and especially her being the Chief’s daughter, so i don’t think anything were to happen between them. And at the beginning you guys said something like “People See this story as a sign of Peace between two worlds” The Real Story Is Pocahontas Married Who Her Father Wanted Her To And They Had A Child But She got Kidnapped from her tribe, her husband got killed, and she was converted to Christianity… such a peaceful story… How Do the people who made this documentary not feel Ashamed for romanticizing this? Terrible video.

[@blueeyedscorpio7]

There was no romance though! 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

[@colenewaltersmusicandother9330]

how can I find the book of the linage of Pocahontas that is mentioned near the end of the video?

[@rosarodriguez-jj3ov]

I love pocahantas

[@hair2050]

I have a friend in NZ many years ago. A beautiful young woman of dark complexion, she told me that she was a descendant of Pocahontas. As a lovely lady of integrity from a cultured family she had no reason to tell stories, yet I dismissed it. Now perhaps I understand just how she could know such a fact.

[@kellysouter4381]

How did she get to New Zealand?

[@hair2050]

@@kellysouter4381 her family, like most white nzers, is of English origin. However with hundreds of years passing I have no idea of the trail of procreation and migration that lead to her. I do love the mystery and do wish that I could fly over history to unravel it.

[@semigoth299]

@@hair2050 oh only child came a male came back to the USA Rolf I think that was his name I don’t recall another child she died from something.

[@hair2050]

@@semigoth299 so the documentary said. I don’t know any more personally.

[@semigoth299]

@@hair2050 I know it’s just that I to would like to know more.

[@JerriRobertson1976]

My Aunt done our family tree. And found out that Pocahontas is my great great great great grandmother by 13. To find this out I wanted to learn more about her.

[@EnchantedRiversPhotography]

I'm the 11th Great Neice of Pocahontas straight blood line

[@spicybeantofu]

I liked the part where they gave natives syphilis

[@semigoth299]

And a few of diseases.😖🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jeremylincaoco7645]

WTF

[@enricaalbaro1490]

Well it's cheaper than musket balls at decimating your target... er enemy.

[@katlynwebb5755]

What's the name of this book with the Pocahontas descendants?

[@Vikanuck]

2:30 - Man… imagine showing up to the beach wearing that nowadays 😯

[@myasiajames7406]

This is really a Disney story in reality pocahontas was married with a child when the English in invaders kidnapped her its sad

[@Thtisha22234]

What happened to her other children before her marriage?

[@-KevinX101]

Knowing those that colonize it is safe to say that this was not a love story more than likely it was probably a story of rape or assault

[@Gotherine]

wow .... this is so outdated. and white washed.

[@marmarlittlechick]

support absolute history but she cant have had the comfort we wish she did and conrtay she did

[@Dragon1276]

In every other historical work of fiction, an English accent is universally used as a “foreign” stand in. And here, where it’s actually supposed to be English people, we get the worst American accent available. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@TheBrorsdotter]

To be fair, The English of the 1600s didn't sound like the English of today. Theories are that it was actually more similar to a modern south-state accent than the modern RP.

[@alyssayaki]

I recently watched a video of a man who goes through all the different accents of England (I believe he started in the Tudor era, maybe earlier). The accent of this time was actually closer to modern American rather than southern-england Harry Potter accents. It was fascinating to watch, and he goes into the depth of the evolution, and where they're based geographically. I'll try to find the channel name and add it to a second comment, I think many people would really enjoy it

[@alyssayaki]

Found it, the video is by Simon Roper and he starts in the 14th century all through modern day. You can search "English accents over time" or something similar and his should be the top hit

[@Dragon1276]

@@TheBrorsdotter this sounds nothing like a southern accent.

[@TheBrorsdotter]

@@Dragon1276 That's not what I said though, what I said was that the English of the 1600s sounded more like a southern accent than the RP most people associate England with.

[@bryantm6]

I don't like how this is all presented as stories with no sources. It's basically just presented as mythology and the attitudes and feelings of people involved seems overly romanticized. I'd prefer a presentation with evidence.

[@tracyhoward9863]

I like Mr. Adkins low key way of telling us whites were still settlers. His honesty cracked me up!

[@gina928]

He is correct though.

[@melanieortiz712]

Illegal occupiers

[@mikmik9034]

Misnomer Title. Click Bait. This is John Smith and colony Video. Little enough about Pocahontas.

[@melanieortiz712]

Just more white washed bs when it comes to her. Smh. She was one of our first MMIW

[@jaxong.2701]

They had American Accents then?? Lol

[@TisDana]

Right?!?

[@AngryPandaMania]

Kind of. The American accent is the original British accent. In the mid 1800s English wealthy made a "proper" language for the wealthy as to separate themselves from the lower class (this would be the modern day English accent). Poorer people tried to copy this to fit in and made what we now know as that hard british Cockney accent. Interestingly the pre-proper poor English men would have sounded a lot like the American southern accent (the south is where many poor British moved)

[@gregorybumgardner2741]

33:14 - No such thing as flaming arrows.

[@germaineprien7691]

I don't get why they didn't try to learn from the first nations peoples how to support themselves, hunting and harvesting what you can plant. 🙄😲😬

[@pattysucks5674]

How was this is ok back then ?

[@1908oceanworld]

Pocahontas wasn’t a princess. Because if she was a princess there had to be a king a queen and a prince, etc. 🙄🙄 there had to have been a kingdom.

[@scout06171]

You don’t understand the Powhatan Civilization. She was the Daughter of Powhatan, the tribal Chieftain. He had somewhere close to 25 children through numerous women. In the Powhatan society, lineage is traced through the mother rather than the father and ancestry is incredibly difficult to trace. I personally know this since I’m descended from the Powhatan Tribe. It’s extremely frustrating trying to trace my Native ancestry for me since it’s unlike the European concept of lineage through the father to determine the family heir.

[@boyinblue.]

"Love" shouldn't be part of the title in a video about kidnapping and pedophilia.

[@ianrobert6239]

I live where she is allegedly buried. Gravesend uk. They are not sure exactly where her body is. Such a sad story.

[@henryscarhead6119]

But base on her husband's ranking in British society, she's somewhere on someone's backyard.

[@melanieortiz712]

Her body should of been returned to her people

[@ajrwilde14]

Why and how? How could they have transported a dead body for weeks across the ocean 400 years ago??@@melanieortiz712

[@aquastar4336]

When I was 10-13... I had crushes on Jim Carrey and Robin Williams. Jim especially didn't seem real old to me, but he was like 30 at the time. I'm just pointing out that yes.. sometimes young people can have little crushes on adults. That doesn't mean I'm saying a relationship would be valid. But only that young girls often get crushes. Occasionally on an older person. I think its possible* that she had little crushes on Smith or other white men at that time. I'm sure their light colored eyes and blonde hair were intriguing to her, at the least. Either way, she clearly had interest in the settlers. And helped them. I wish the poor soul could've lived longer than she did. At least she has descendants alive today... even the actor Edward Norton.

[@j.t.7671]

A child having a crush on an older person in no way gives the older person a pass to assault the child. I hope we can agree on that.

[@ellanina801]

It’s the obligation of the older to person to set and enforce the boundaries. The younger person hasn’t learned better, but the older person has.

[@danialwilker]

the image of dying pocahontas in full dress and corset just makes me think she was suffocating lol im sure the actual moment she was dressed less formally, or at least i hope

[@ruthspanos2532]

I am sure she was more comfortable in the clothing from her own culture. I used to think 17th century European dress was silly and uncomfortable, but I’ve learned a lot from dress historians and KZbinrs like Abby Cox. When you think about it, it’s kind of silly to assume people wore terribly uncomfortable clothing for everyday wear.

[@danialwilker]

@@ruthspanos2532 I understand,and I've seen what you're talking about, but I still don't think someone, so ill they are dying, would be in full dress, just as I wouldn't want to wear my jacket, belt, and jeans if I was bed ridden

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

thanks

[@peterxd3610]

respect and love are not the same meaning

[@TheKetoKittyGamer]

Thet never mentioned that she was raped when they captured her. Not the full story.

[@idontkknowher]

Story of love? Wasn’t she 10?

[@Jellybeanirishgreen]

Sad to know the way they portrayed the story of Pocahontas was not the real story. How can Disney not speak the truth and make a rap...ist... the best person john smith/colonist was you know what

[@hudsonfrank1121]

Pocahontas did not marry john smith she ended up marrying another ship hand.

[@TheBlindProphets]

This is correct. She married John Rolfe

[@ordyhorizonrivieredunord712]

It was common after a battle they would bring back captives and the men had to go through 2 rows of young warriors armed with clubs and those proven brave would at times be adopted by the tribe... If taken by men he would serve and accompany to hunts and servant work. If adopted by a woman he would be deemed a free man in the household under the care of the woman. Native society was matriarcal and the children belonged to the woman as no one else could be sure who the father was. The sad thing in American history is that they have been incorporated in the British-French wars and were later betrayed by the American government. 🦉

[@ordyhorizonrivieredunord712]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6WzoqqceL-DZ5o Tshinanu 🦝

[@JA-ru3il]

Nope, that's propaganda. There were never any female chiefs but Native Americans did honor and respect their women which is overblown and greatly exaggerated to disinform people.

[@fedexdriver13]

Me, when they refer to the natives as "Indians": "oH, wHaT aRe ThE pEoPlE oF iNdIa ArE dOiNg In AmErIcA hOw ✨S i L l Y gOoFy✨

[@nativeandindigenuscraftcre433]

Hi thanks this mite be activated and showing disrespect on indigenous people in general i already know about it the true story of pohauntus thanks and good luck 🤞

[@iamthebean940]

no part 2 dahm

[@corythegoat2745]

Like damn all the history white washed to the fullest!

[@ellanina801]

Right?! Omfg this is making me want to scrub all of my skin off 🤮. I want to stop watching but I feel like I need to see the white-splaining to the end so I can talk smack on in later.

[@chunklars5004]

Seriously biased - they went on ‘adventures’ to the new world 🙄🤦‍♀️😳

[@smoove8125]

And people are upset about the woman king…

[@madarab37]

When Pocahontas was kidnapped, she is described as a wife with a child. Who was she married to then???

[@ajrwilde14]

Kocuum

[@alrighty-aphrodite2031]

She was a stolen sister

[@Jabberstax]

Watch something else then.

[@jerryjones188]

I don't understand why people, including academic historians, cannot wrap their heads around the REAL history that John Smith wrote. History that is corroborated by many of his peers. People who WERE THERE, DID IT and WROTE ABOUT IT! Just because they didn't act like academic scholars of today doesn't mean they didn't do it. Geez, if Smith and his peers did act like these academic scholars of today, this country would have never been settled by "Men Without Chests"! Read John Smith's own accounts and read his peers' accounts. A great reference is "Love And Hate In Jamestown" by David Price. John Smith was not romantically involved with Pocahontas. They were drawn to each other out of genuine liking of each other and curiosity to learn about each others' peoples. John Smith didn't have to make stuff up. He did it, lived it, wrote about it and was the best of everyone who sailed across that ocean. His friends will tell you the same. John Smith was a man's man and the absolute hero of Jamestown. Therefore, he is the absolute hero of the founding of America. Give the man his due. Pocahontas had a huge impact on the early relations of English and Indians and saved John Smith from execution TWICE. He says so. Take him at his word. Pocahontas was mad to find out that John Smith had been alive in England for all the time she thought he was dead. Then to show up and greet her? She was curt, short and direct with him. Pocahontas thought John Smith owed their great friendship more than that. And she was correct. Read REAL history, folks! If they lived it and wrote about it, and are corroborated by peers who wrote their own versions of events at different times, then it PROBABLY HAPPENED just like the memoir said! Forget the stuffy, pompous academics who rewrite history to THEIR liking. They are fools for leading you astray.

[@ville9313]

Emphatically, Works based on the statements of eyewitnesses and witnesses who lived during Pocahontas' life (John Smith and John Rolfe) should be trusted more than a book written in this millennium based on mere hearsay about things that only try to smear the settlers. That claim about Pocahontas being gang-raped is really a STRAW PUPPET

[@domainsales9176]

Stop. She died in England at 19.

[@geigertec5921]

I met Pocahontas once in a dream I had as a child shortly after watching the 1995 Disney animated masterpiece Pocahontas starring Irene Bedard and Mel Gibson as the voices of Pocahontas and Captain John Smith respectively. In the dream Pocahontas told me that Marty McFly and Dr. Emmett Brown from Back to the Future, staring Michael J. Fox and Christopher Loyd as the titular time-traveling protagonists, would visit me later that night. Pocahontas explained that they would then take me with them in their Delorean to a planet called Alderaan in a Galaxy Far Far away. Needless to say Pocahontas then turned to liquid metal and began chasing after me with swords for hands just a delorean ran her over. Then a crazy-eyed old man and a kid showed up in a car and told me to "come with me if you want to live." I got into the car and next thing I know I was back in time in 1,000,000 Years B.C. and there was a scantily clad cave woman waiting for me. The woman was named Loana but looked suspiciously like the actress Raquel Welch. I went with her but then I got lost. Luckily I saw the statue of liberty on the horizon. I ran toward it but when I got to it I realized it was destroyed and bashed up against the beach. I collapsed onto me knees. "You blew it up! Ah, damn you! Damn you all to hell!" I shouted. And then as I knelt there on the sand of the beach an ape man riding a horse galloped up to me. "Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours," said the ape man. I stood up and looked at the ape man and laughed. A lanky man high on weed in a green shirt and his dog then walked up to me from some bushes. "Hey man, like do you have any snacks for me and Scoob?" "No," I said, "but maybe he does." I pointed to the man in the gorilla disguise. "Zoinks!" Shouted the kid as I pointed. The kid began to run. "Hold up gang," said another kid. He jumped on the horse and removed the ape mask from the person. A girl in glasses and an orange sweater than shouted. "It was Pocahontas the whole time!" And sure enough Pocahontas was the one wearing the disguise. "Courses," said Pocahontas, "I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!" We all laughed and then a pink panther showed up and took Pocahontas away in handcuffs.

[@kellysouter4381]

You need to leave the drugs alone. They are not your friends.

[@hpharridan]

i love it!!! when do they steal the uss pocahontas galaxy class cruiser and hoist and set sails for the great intergalactic snark hunt whereupon their bowsprit keeps getting tangled with the stern which causes the native klingon americans to laugh themselves to death which is how the new world was really conquered, which new world or planet i can't say because i have managed to confuse myself more than usual

[@geigertec5921]

@Hunter. Peale Don't be silly, The USS Pocahontas Galaxy Class Cruiser has been in drydock for the past 70 years serving as a museum ship in Philippines right next to the USS Eldridge. I do enjoy reading of its history though. My favorite event was when the USS Pocahontas took part in the evacuation of British and French soldiers from the beaches of Dunkirk while disguised as the Loch Ness Monster. The Germans were already wary of encountering the Loch Ness Monster since intercepting communication from the British Admiralty indicting they planned to draft Nessy into the war. This was all a ruse of course as Nessy was already in her 10 year hibernation cycle and wouldn't wake up again until 1949, the the Germans didn't know this. Interesting stuff.

[@fabledfantasty7343]

Geiger... Long & boring story, couldn't even read thur the whole thing. Please don't quit ur day job to become a writer, because u will starve!

[@hpharridan]

@@fabledfantasty7343 Please go back to school and learn how to write.

[@shifterslayer1012]

What is the name of the book that has all the names of pocohontas?

[@senghbeh]

Stop lying. That wasn’t even her real name.

[@blakebuckley1018]

True, it was a nickname

[@aliencat8556]

Jamestown was about profit. Plymouth was about freedom.

[@melanieortiz712]

Oh the irony. Look for freedom by illegally occupying other people's lands.

[@aliencat8556]

@@melanieortiz712 I didn't say it was justified. I'm just pointing out the difference between the two groups objectives. Don't assume one thing means the other.

[@fishinwidow35]

There were more than Pilgrims on the Mayflower. There were also Strangers (sometimes called Planters) who were very much in the New World for profit.

[@aliencat8556]

@Gerry Thompson the strangers were a necessary evil from the investors that Bradford and the others chose to deal with so they could have their freedom to worship freely in the new world. Jamestown was solely for profit. It explains the difference between the north and south

[@Madronaxyz]

I took two years of Latin in high school in the 1970s. A fun verse I learned back then then--maybe from mad magazine. Latin is a dead language That I can plainly see First it killed the Romans And now it is killing me

[@senghbeh]

Y’all crazy. The real life Pocahontas looked like Angels Bassett and she was from Virginia. Stop lying.

[@verybigkittens7550]

3:35 onwards, if they are supposed to be English why have they already got North American Accents.

[@Project2013B]

Hey! This wasn't about Elizabeth Warren!

[@ambermiller4362]

Pocahontas is my 11th Great Grandmother

[@dendrosity]

Dude. Do you know how many people believe that Pocahontas is their ancestral grandmother, aunt, cousin, etc. She is not related to you. Don't be so naive. Look at the comments on all these Pocahontas videos. There are tons of comments like yours...claiming to be related to Pocahontas. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[@blakebuckley1018]

@@dendrositynot saying they are right, Pocahontas does have thousands of descendants