SCAMS IN THE FURRY FANDOM [The Bottle Ep29]

[@bluedrake1218]

If she keeps changing where she films aventualy well just see her whole house

[@sonne3601]

next she's on the roof

[@kibbesnbits8650]

Or the entire world lol

[@incandescentadolescents1889]

bluedrake 121 the international space station is next

[@teensongohanssj2]

Lol.

[@idkwhattoputhere4695]

She might be on Mars tomorrow

[@reader_dragon]

I've been scammed out of a piece, and the original artist of the trace piece actually drew me a new piece for free to make up for what that one tracer did!

[@wintertriggersme6304]

Woofstep Mutt That was extremely nice of them!

[@sparklikessoup4510]

thats amazing

[@breakfasttheelf1566]

That artist was really nice then. The tracer doesn't deserve any money

[@TeamParkhillIsVerySad]

The real artist sounds like such an amazing person. May I ask who the real artist was?

[@Alexander-lu5sp]

@@thepinkspade8203 no it's not what if they wanna commission them?

[@MugiwaraCosplay]

I actually had one asking for a fursuit head of Telephone, today xD The persons excuse was that she was new to the fandom. And earlier this month a little kid stole her moms credit card and ordered a fursuit + parts from me while she pretended to be an adult (Her language even sounded like an adult and not like a 12 years old kid)

[@PocariRoo]

I can't believe there are kids out there that think this is an okay thing to do. I get they're young but cmon they teach you from day 1 that stealing is bad. Parents aren't made of infinite money, they'll notice a few hundred dollars missing!!

[@MugiwaraCosplay]

The parents dosn't seem to care because she has done it before to a few other makers

[@Ratzcomz]

Mugiwara Cosplay jellooooooooooo

[@merf0lk]

Mugiwara Cosplay if I did that, I'd be flipping dead. Way to scared to do that. Not to mention I probably have anxiety, due to my many panic attacks. XD

[@emiliodibenedetto4654]

I heard of that case! That was involving you? Gosh. My sympathies.

[@drewgraff9434]

Okay but like, am I the only one who likes the noise that sounds out when Pocari presses their paws together? 😂😂 Cause its such a satisfying sound tbh

[@socialistteetg]

1. YES ITS SATISFYING AS HEC C and 2. hi xefros

[@drewgraff9434]

oMG HENLO FELLOW HOMESTUCK

[@garrettwayman9101]

Yes hiveswap is out

[@jweinstein2]

Same tbh XD

[@tiffanygriffard8729]

Drew Graff ikr it’s so satisfying

[@jastorals8522]

I've had some young child come up to me and ask for a fursuit of a stolen character and art from someone on FA. When I refused he made a huge beware on Deviant Art because I refused to make his fursuit. He told me he would pay me right away. Thankfully I was able to get ahold of someone who knew him personally. He stole his grandma's credit card and was going to commission a fursuit. If you are still a minor and wanting a fursuit. Earn the money yourself. Please don't not steal from your family members

[@sunnysander6204]

Yeah. I’m a young fur and I’m petsitting to get money for a fursuit.

[@melodiya17]

or you could just make one but you will need money anyway XD

[@fortniteandgacha7484]

Deviant art did me free art XD

[@canyounot1185]

Jastorals being a minor myself I have a head but I saved up did chores and asked for it and the maker was so kind even though it was a premise it looked exactly like my fursona as well as I feel minors like me shouldn’t commission unless they are like 17 because eventually your grow out of it but even if you sell it you would have to give the character away

[@crazyfido5444]

I am a minor and I am saving for a fur suit I may commission it or I may make it. It depends. I have saved over $200 in bday money, christmas and chores. I believe minors shouldn’t take their parents or grandparents credit cards. I have a brain

[@sammers3826]

As a young fur, I don't understand people my age (14) who scam people, pretending to be adults. I've been saving for a full suit for a while, and I'm almost at my goal! ($ 2,500 USD) However, I don't plan on buying it until I'm 18 :D

[@sonne3601]

ayy I'm fourteen as well and i feel your struggle about having to wait till being 18 seems short on paper but were still four years away

[@sammers3826]

sonne Yup, that's true. But honestly, I'm so hyped that I don't care too much. I still haven't found a maker who I LOVE (who could make my fursona nicely)-but I've been looking!

[@sonne3601]

well that is true so cant argue there

[@Camoucrimson]

Veggie Baskets try Skyehigh studios

[@funtimemilkshake3478]

Gotta grow, your really responsible

[@zamthecatcoon9240]

there is a tracer in my art class, she dose her drawing at home so no one sees her do it but she is clearly a beginner and Friday she just comes in with the well done eagle head and I was like "you didn't do that" in my head and yesterday I went to google images and typed in "eagle drawings" and I found the original and I may or may not call her out on it tomorrow

[@Yellowmead0w]

please do it! She needs to learn that what she's doing is WRONG. If she steals a copyrighted character she could get into serious legal trouble.

[@angielance1742]

I have someone in my class like that. She traces pictures, and claims them as her own. She's been getting awards recently for it. I go to this thing called Quest, too. It's a group of kids who can draw REALLY good, and me and my friend got in. The tryouts are hard and the girl who traces really wants to get in. She needs to realize this is wrong. Please send help.

[@moomoo553]

I've got a girl like that in afew of my classes. She traces a bunch of art and shows it off to the class. She likes to think she is the best "artist" in the whole school and when I come along with w.i.p (sketches) drawings she trys to call me out saying I traced it and I actually suck at drawing even though you can see all the guidelines and stuff. Not to mention I will do some drawings from scratch during class which she still tries to claim are traced, even after my friends who watch me tell her that I'm just skilled at drawing. She's lately been trying to sell her art for like $10-$20 for a fully traced piece, I'm warning people tomorrow that her art is traced (with proof) I hope no one buys her stuff

[@toiletshark6368]

I TRACE aswell T: Do R: methamphetamine A: C: E:

[@moomoo553]

@@meowingdread that's annoying

[@Awakeshadow420]

I introduced my mom for the first time what furries are and how they have been misrepresented in the media and public. I showed her your "why furries are awesome" vid and she loved it! Thank you Pocari for being such a great influence and helping me tell my parents that im a furry. :3

[@deadaccount2623]

My mom is OK with furries, but she is terrified of fursuits. So I don't understand why a Maskimal is sitting in the corner of my room lol

[@arandomgamer3162]

Fuk them

[@sparklikessoup4510]

@Grace Burns im sorry, isnt a furry just like a type of cosplay correct me if im wrong, but i thought it was just that you made up a cute cartoony human-like animal and then maybe get a fursuit made of it

[@crowwbar]

*Makes it 200 likes* POWER (And yay!)

[@starferaj3606]

My parents and brother are anti furry as for my older sister, she’s more kind about it and my twin brother is very mad. Like bruh. I plan to get my fursuit when I go to collage so I can get it with enough money and I won’t grow out of it if I get it at this age. I plan to go to my brother in fursuit and ask who am i and see his reaction. HAHHAHA

[@nonstopp5005]

Somebody once took my adoptables, now I know to watermark them.

[@xpjot8113]

Claric Dox lol

[@saltztr]

Someone slap the stealer. They are yours and shouldnt be taking it.

[@beetleeatssoap5049]

I always forget to watermark, I should probably make one.. Thanks for reminding me, 2 year old comment!

[@CollieBluez]

Here's a story. One of my buyers had me make them a tail. Once i was pretty mutch done. They used buyer protection and got a refund. Now they will not even respond too me :/ // so yes here is proof a buyer can scam the seller.

[@tabbycat0870]

Finish up the tale and put it up for sale, I've seen many sites do it.

[@Lolguy-qr6ty]

From my understanding, buyers protection is a timed thing... if it isn’t too long of a wait I would send a photo of my product and asked if it looked good before they are unable to get a refund (sorry if this is confusing)

[@s3lf1shsyan1d3]

Sell the tail or keep it for yourself. You have it ready, so why not sell it to somebody who doesn’t suck.

[@floorvisscher8164]

Man that sucks. I wish you the best

[@AShatteredDragonsSpirit]

"cat fused with a banana" ... isn't that an anime called Bananyan

[@PocariRoo]

I just looked it up and omg I didn't know this was already a thing. Of course Japan did it hahaha

[@oreo5963]

Lol

[@abandon1249]

Yup everything is MADE IN CHINA

[@ZydraTheFox]

@@abandon1249 Japan isn't a part of China

[@ottercatanimation6228]

Ye it is

[@pineapple7832]

I bought a $35 adopt from someone and about 8 month a later some body stole it, they blocked me and blocked everyone that tells them, they are now trying to sell it as an adoptable for $5, 3 different people bought it from her for 5 dollars, so now there is 4 people with my fursona, she is also trading it for other OCs and is commissioning art of it even though she sold and traded the character many times.

[@zixea5385]

MIRROR_IMAGE Fursuits That's awful, maybe you should make a marking on the sona that says your name or something about you.

[@cuppydogcity]

That sucks, I'm sorry that happened :/ hopefully you'll figure something out Also your pfp is a blessing lol

[@rainebat]

Yikes

[@canismalice]

So, did everything go well?

[@opossumontheinternet9864]

Oh jeez, that sucks. I feel bad for you. Is everything alright now? That comment is 2 years old, just wanted to make sure everything's sorted out now.

[@kixsuskat3029]

New pocari video! *clicks as fast as I can* YYYAAAAYYY

[@victoriatoribroxham8922]

I was just scammed out of a partial that had been in peogress for a month... then i was ghosted then blocked.. i didnt pay yet thank God but im heart broken over here and i dont know what i did wrong

[@maxrichards2295]

It’s a rough world

[@tabbycat0870]

I don't think you did anything wrong, I think they couldn't be bothered.

[@fishployee9374]

you didnt do anything wrong, it was completely them

[@feneasdelfox]

Unfortunately my best friend got scammed a lot on fury amino. That sight is full of scammers, i think this video will help her a lot

[@sunshine19967]

I Have the furry amino too, and i don't suggest buying anything from there. bunch of kids make these characters that they draw and try to sell them as adoptables. smh...

[@angielance1742]

Furry Amino is very strict. I was called out for tracing two times by people who stole my art. Both of them were larger accounts with plenty more followers. One had even gotten someone,Wangle, banned.

[@TammyGrossoutsidethehive]

I was framed and accused of scamming there many times

[@TammyGrossoutsidethehive]

It was all by MUTE, who i always held a grudge at for a long while. Now i re discovered her and i cannot stay mad forever.

[@TammyGrossoutsidethehive]

And fury amino? Is that for rage-filled people lol

[@banditwusky]

AHHHH The rainbow Hyena-Agenda shirt is amazing! I own their Banana cream version and black sweatshirt versions

[@f3nnztar]

my fursona has the same name and is the same species

[@danniedaniell260]

if someone was scamed and bought my sona and they told me about it id take pity and try to make them a new character thats very simular. or i would be even nicer and help them get the money back

[@guppyheart4430]

Dannie Daniell I would give them my sona IF there is proof that they paid for my sona

[@PercydeRoloFangirl]

Honestly I would ask them to change the name and Watermelon would have an identical twin.

[@royalrenegadee]

I just had a commissioner so paranoid about being scammed that they charged back on my account and took their money back when I didn't finish the suit in 3 months (which is v fast um)

[@royalrenegadee]

may I add that it was almost done and would've been shipping in a week of their charge back

[@tabbycat0870]

Finish the suit and sell it online, at least your work won't be completely wasted.

[@galuxius1861]

@@tabbycat0870 if it's custom then you can't really sell it since it's off their character but the design can be alter and sold as a premade

[@decayed666]

You do commissions? What are your prices? I may be interested in buying ^^

[@goldenretriever6440]

Personally I plan to make all my own stuff in the fandom This includes fursuits and artwork I can’t rip myself off Wait can I

[@beabzzbzz]

Golden Retriever why did u duplicate your comment?

[@meowzinga]

Kiwi Kups Oh hey! I’m not the only one who noticed! Sometimes when I reply to a comment, it duplicates and I have to delete one. Maybe something similar happened here?

[@archietheskully579]

I'm sorry- didn't you post this before?

[@myffanwythecorgi555]

I got scammed out of $200 for a faux fur lot and never got it but they used a temporary email for their paypal so even though I paid for goods and services they couldnt refund me.

[@dilloncookson9641]

Thalia The Corgi I feel for you but the irony is the word "faux" means fake in French.

[@fred3920]

Dillon Cookson We call it faux fur because it's not a really animal fur xD it's not because it was a scam, almost all furs you can buy are called "faux". Faux in English is another word for fake xD

[@dilloncookson9641]

Dustfeather I didn't know exactly but knew it was something to do with being fake fur. I just thought it was ironic.

[@alihya139]

Ahhh I did not even realize you used my lineart for this video until some I know pointed it out :'D Thank you so much though!! It means a lot to see any type of artwork of mine on a video, especially from such a well-known figure!!

[@TammyGrossoutsidethehive]

Which art

[@MK-bp8gc]

Yeah which art?

[@kruzthewolf]

Maybe the moldy fursuit head actually grew legs and ran off o.o

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

Kruzthewolf O.o creepy

[@smolopossummaxwell9624]

11:16 once I saw a really cute gorgeous cat oc, so I just texted the owner if it was OK if I drew fanart for them and gladly agreed! It was really fun and it felt good to be kind to a stranger

[@slenge9485]

To the adoptables thing,there are also some people who sold character which they really like. Like 2 days after they sold it,they start to want it again - and they are just like - ,,I love them soo soo sooo much,so I took them back. Blah,blah,blah..." When they are people then commenting,they are being rude to them. They can make similar character. Not same, but similar.

[@maoix23]

I have been really hesitant to buy things that are super expensive so I don't get scammed I kinda just check if others have bought it successfully

[@layserboy1]

I just wanna say, I'm grateful for this guide because I've been burned by scams a few times myself, and art theft is generally horrible to go through. The point that "High variations in art style" is a red flag is, however, also a bit hard hitting for me as someone who's still developing a cohesive "style". Now, I only draw for fun, and one of the big reasons I'm inconsistent is because I draw maybe once every few months. But the idea that if I one day want to sell my art, I'd likely have to prove my own innocence (Which I can do with my photoshop files. I keep them all), gives me too much anxiety to even touch the market. I'm not disagreeing that it can still be considered a red flag, but I hope most people understand that if someone's style is radically different every picture, it could also be the case that they haven't "stuck" with one they like yet. Art styles are tricky.

[@nyahbarney6334]

I’m a young fur- 12 to be exact. It utterly disgusts me how people my age are dumb enough to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on a suit and expect their parents not to see the missing money and think they can hide it. I’ve been saving for a long time and have almost 400$- enough to buy a digi fullsuit from my favorite maker! Before you go off, the sizing is gonna be bigger than me by a little, and I haven’t grown in roughly 1.5 years. The furry fandom should be safe and legit, and most of it is- but some people make it a dark place- so try not to get caught up in it! ♡︎

[@crosschopcostumes4648]

It's also good to do some extra research into a buyer's age (for suit makers). I was about to accept a down payment from a fur who claimed they were 16, my personal minimum age to buy a partial. They let slip that they were actually 12, and proceeded to try and guilt me into taking their commission anyway. Be safe everyone!

[@-tylerrodgers-]

Why tho? I plan on getting a fursuit at 11.

[@fellowfloof1825]

@@-tylerrodgers-The main reason is probably to avoid any messy situations with a child stealing their parents credit card

[@cryptidaer]

I commissioned an artist on amino for a bundle (5 icons, a fullbody, a bust, a glitch icon and a custom) and a day later their account was deleted ;~; Trying to fix it with PayPal now

[@dabitodoroki9604]

“This person called me stinky so I sent a swat team to their house and they blocked me” -pocari roo 2020

[@chroma739]

Hmm funny someone stole my art today and had an awesome talk with that person >:[

[@AntlersAndAcorns]

Chroma Wolf I had someone steal my fursona, barely had them for a month too. I was pissed.

[@Dani-uf8ev]

1st- Hi! I know you from Furry Amino! 2nd- I'm so sorry that happened to you. Did you get your art back?

[@chroma739]

Nilla yup

[@fallen_vague28]

Chroma Wolf ooooooooo I wanna know what happened!! Pls tell me!

[@Ghostfoxkori]

@@AntlersAndAcorns if someone stole my fursonas I'd freak because I'm so attached

[@StarlightAkari]

Somebody once tried to sell Starlight on a Facebook group I wasn't a part of apparently @-@ (Also loved the part where you talked about that artist who can draw in a million styles, I work in a ton of styles and I'm always so self concious about it ^^;)

[@arkinqaj4535]

AudreyStarlight who’s Starlight??

[@moonlobotomy9061]

@@arkinqaj4535 looks like their character

[@matariimau]

Whenever I make a commission, I make the buyer give me half the money before I start on it. I then hand them a blurry version of the finished piece before getting all the money. I haven't made many commissions but I think this is the way to go. Even if you, the seller gets scammed, you can at least have half the profit

[@maskeddove1576]

I just remembered that I had a kangaroo costume When I was 5 years old and I was inspired to do a Sodaroo fursona and a Fursuit :D It's has to be BLUE, blue is the best color! Sorry if there was any writing errors, I'm from Finland and I don't speak english very well

[@Koheink]

Well your English turned out pretty well! I went over a couple times and not a single spelling error. Good job!

[@aromanticfranziskavonkarma]

What drink was your roo based off of?

[@egschair9601]

I'm thinking about being a fursuit maker, what do I do if someone wants me to make an already made fursuit? Like a Majira Strawberry suit?

[@PocariRoo]

Decline the commission, and educate them as to why you had to. Then hopefully they'll understand and come back with their own character!

[@lesbianchihuahua1624]

Yup yup. Rule of thumb on any artwork.If your not Comfortable, no matter what, tell them no.They should respect your decision on that.

[@laurenreddford3912]

If they don't want to make a fursona for themselves, then you can reccomend they buy a pre-designed fursuit.

[@oliviawashere]

Decline them! You can decline commissions for many reasons including: Age, Design, Species, Stolen Character and so much more.

[@austinwood2818]

Tell them about copyrights and fair use

[@KiaFursuits]

I’ve had the issue with drawing a customer’s character that wasn’t theirs!! The person that own the character contacted me and was sweet enough to allow me to keep using the drawing as an example on my portfolio, of course with credit to their character! Be carful out there!! ❤️

[@cloudwyrms9752]

I’m new to the fandom and starting to take off with commissions, and all this information is INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. THANK. YOU. I’m so glad I saw this before I officially released commissions, your videos are always so informative and useful! ^_^

[@wakaran2414]

The dislike on this video is from a scammer most likely XD

[@xpjot8113]

Wakaran probably not. probably some dumbass who subscribed to dislike it

[@linde80d]

Wakaran I agree

[@lou4912]

They can be scammers or haters

[@arandomgamer3162]

Wakaran true

[@quackitiy]

or someone that belives sterio types of furries being ew gross or hate furries for no reason

[@remingtonspeed7481]

If you find a scammer, sign any contact info up for every newsletter you can find. World Market loves sending free email updates!

[@snoozebvtton4874]

I have a friend that has 2 fursuits, the first being her sona. She was looking for an artist to make her 2nd one, and she found one that offered everything she wanted, decent price, and was an adorable style. she was looking through the gallery and saw her fursona. She was really heartbroken. :( thanks for making a post about this!

[@rowanheart8122]

My dad says when I get older whatever I want, if it's expensive, like a couple thousand dollars(i.e. a car, or a fursuit), if I come up with half the price, dad will come up with the other half. So if I get scammed out of potentially $3000 +, I'll have my dad at my back

[@JulisiakLPS]

thankfully i was never scammed, but my friends were. they both ordered ref sheets, and when they didn't get them after a while and asked for a refund, the artist was like "oh well i don't do refunds". it wasn't in their tos, so when i asked them about that, they quickly added it :/

[@archietheskully579]

wow. some people just suck.

[@_stardustcolors]

Some kid: **gets a fursuit made of a character they don't own** The owner of the character after finding out about that fursuit twin: *I did not consent to this.*

[@captainc00tie]

AAAAAA- I see your videos and get so hyped!! They are very helpful and not to mention with a great amount of humor/laughs. Thank you so so much for these!! May you have a great day, Poci!! Edit: not to mention, your thumbnails are pure art 👌

[@lesbianchihuahua1624]

I haven't been on FA for like a year.I can't get the damn site to work. Before I broke my computer I asked for a quote. I felt bad at first.had no way com contacting them to tell them why I never answered back. But then they tracked me down on other sites to lash back at me.Honestly harassed me. I told them the situation, but they didnt care.i dont like to take shit & thats all they were throwing out.Decided I just didn't want something from them no matter how much I liked the way they did things. Such a mean person, kinda creepy too since I literally had no links from my personal social media & my furry social media.They contacted me on both. Now, I don't like it when people don't answere back on quotes. But harassment over a quote is pretty shitty &not at all ok.

[@plushiesaurp2068]

Wow, not at all okay is little said, that person blew it wayy out of proportion! I feel bad you had to go through this,I really hope you will have only better experiences now :c Have a good day!

[@hraefn1821]

This is invaluable advice Pocari. Thank you so much for taking the time to post it. I've actually saved this video as a handy reference guide. Much love and respect from a friendly Raven. ^v^

[@demon62692]

I actually had a friend who bought a second hand fursuit that was altered used as a murrsuit before he received it and it was still filthy. He mailed it right back, and got his money back through PayPal.

[@PocariRoo]

Glad to hear that one ended well, I've heard many other stories of people selling suits and not disclosing they were are murrsuit 🤢

[@archietheskully579]

UM. I'm sorry, your friend got a suit that had been through... adult stuff??

[@LilFoxyCosplay]

I did pay friends and family to an artist recently but it was someone I knew from a separate fandom.and knew they were legit Their artwork was beautiful 😍 Edit: I recently had a scammer push me to commission them for art They tried hitting on me when i refused 😂

[@serenawolff3298]

I've been watching your videos for the past few weeks. These give real good advice since I'm thinking about getting a fursuit and I'm getting ready to go to a fur con. Thanks so much. Here's a question. What is the best fursuit bits for beginners (partials(paws,tail)etc)

[@HybridDecon]

Had so many issues with this! Someone tried to commission Mushi Magic Suits to remake my fursuit Decon (made by FarukuCostumes) in a toony style - thankfully this maker is amazing and contacted me to check as they felt something was off. They then blacklisted the person. I have also had people make artwork from stolen photos of my suit and try to sell it as ‘artist interpretations’ to claim as their own. So yeah, this happens!

[@SunnyPopFeline]

Wow! :o Thats crazy. I had fur suit heads (mostly make when feeling the inspiration/passion) and most of my buyers were 12year girls. And most of them buy the item (didn't pay) but, they did it without their parents knowing. I was surprised and little annoyed as it is a waste of time. But they still got sold to happy homes and to 12-14 year kids :p

[@TCReviewsStuff]

Thank you so much for this :D gonna add a little more advice for commissioning art, communication! I commissioned an artist to redesign a fursona of mine and three weeks later I've had no email update from them, thankfully only lost a little money but if you don't get regular updates that's usually a bad sign so always ask the artist to keep communications open. I'm gonna use this video in the near future when I hopefully start looking for a fursuit maker :D

[@moonstone4893]

My notifications are failing me.... I'm an hour late.... but still... I love you pocari potato!

[@sunnekosuri]

I got fanart of my character and unfortunately the art was traced, and boy the coloring was so good I never noticed until I found the image that was traced! I saw the artist who have the fanart had a completely different style but I was young then and didn't think much of it.

[@seairavision]

7:51 I've seen so many people on the furry amino doing this!!! Omg I need to do something! Good thing I watched this video because I almost bought an artwork of that

[@syanaluraashone2284]

I did art for someone on Furry Amino, I was asked to help make a character in trade for an adoptable, I made a sketch and showed them, I received the adopt, couple days later they were banned so I set out to search for her owner and was notified that the adoptable I had was seen around multiple times. So I set out to find his original owner. I found them and I was able to keep the adoptable, I decided to also keep the character I created since they do not have the finished picture only the sketch. Thanks for making these points Pocari

[@Brickeddowngangsta]

On etsy I saw some dude making FULL body fursuits for $1.00 like what the helllllllll--lo kitty

[@Candythekitty1152]

Ive seen things like this too, it's usually up that low for saving slots for the commission, but when you click.the page it normally will give their actual prices.

[@oliviawashere]

I think it is a quote. A quote is when someone can tell you how much a suit would cost from them depending on your character

[@archietheskully579]

@@oliviawashere IM PRETTY SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE PAYONG $500 MINIMUM.

[@severusserpents1061]

THANK YOU! I'm always so nervous to buy commissions or other things using Paypal because I've heard many cases of scamming happening and it terrifies me. This video with red flags and tips and tricks really help me with feeling more confident getting a commission done. Thank you!

[@corvidchaos4215]

Yeah definitely guilty of not understanding ownership at first, but i did fix it before anything was actually made. I looked around found the owner asked if I could make a suit they loved the idea so permission granted yay:)

[@ihatetedcruz3971]

Hey Pocari!!! My name is Spork and I am starting a KZbin channel for Fursuit Cons,Tutorials,Speed Builds and much more!! You are my biggest inspiration EVER and I wanted to thank you for shedding light on this fandom!

[@kompot505]

the first few minutes of this video made me realize how narrowly i might have dodged a scam. i was purchasing my current mascot design (the one in my profile picture!) and the person was asking me to cover the fee via sending by friends and family. because i am sort of a cheapskate and i didn't want to pay more than i had to i told them i would but i didn't and i sent it by the service option. they seemed a bit peeved about it. o___o really happy i did end up getitng my boy and not getting scammed....

[@luxbee_]

oh boy... do i have an experience to tell yall (if people even visit this vid anymore oof) i was on Amino (castle cats amino) and this new member who followed me and some other people invited us to a chat with them i'll call this new member "Pumpy" (since that's the castle cats character their profile picture reminded me of) Eventually, after a while, Pumpy took me and the other main person (who i'll call "Sax") into a group chat that Sax asked to be made. in the group chat, Sax started asking questions about Pumpy's picture (which, when i looked, was super clearly stolen!!) i noticed that and started asking too, but Pumpy denied every single claim. we eventually got the LT involved and i've not heard from Pumpy or Sax since the situation was solved.

[@CharlesB9496]

It's 1:50 in the freaking morning on September freaking 24. IM TIRED. UPLOAD IN THE DAY!!!! Good video bro. Good tips🙂

[@shindeiru8299]

She lives in Australia so her timezone is very different from most places

[@pastrypoodle5558]

Actually, all you guys are wrong. She uploads in the US morning, but it takes a while until the video renders. She can't control when the video actually uploads.

[@shindeiru8299]

Actually, she uploads the video a few days before she makes it public so that her patreon supporters can view the video early. She then can decide at what time the video goes live to everyone.

[@GoreNhoney]

I do trace but not the way it's normally used context wise,I draw my art on paper first then go to idsipaint and import a picture of the drawing on a layer and draw it digitally on a different one,the closest thing I done to immoral tracing is using a base from Google.

[@romanvalgo]

"THIS GUY CALLED ME STINKY SO I SENT A SWAT TEAM TO HIS HOUSE-" Me: (chokes on coffee) *wait what*

[@AaronInABox]

Stinky is a respected title at my school

[@skittle9608]

I’m watching this while making my dinomasks claws so I love watching pocaris vids while making him ♥️ love you pocari

[@ashenwolf4152]

POCARI... YOU NEED MERCH

[@casey2782]

She has merch! She has various shirts here: www.teepublic.com/user/adezu

[@baileyblackwellandsophietu7001]

When it coms to the stolen fursuit images and knockoffs, I looked on eBay for cheap second best parts or things I could use for props. On the first page, there was a dozen stolen images, most of Quartz Husky and even one of Fluke

[@WearyFeline]

This person called me stinky....*sends S.W.A.T team to their house*

[@arktossutcliff4985]

Thanks for those many advices! Also what I experienced: Always ask specifically, what you will get as an end result! Especially when it comes to artwork. I comissioned one day someone, who on their profile had such amazing artwork wich wasn't fake and that person offered a ych with background. I was like "woah, sure, 55 bucks is okay for the quality" but then just got a simply lined artwork back which wasn't far as good as the normal drawing the person make... yeahh.... always making good researches when it comes to that...

[@lollipopcandyfette601]

*Always check the reviews. That’s the best way to find if it’s good or not...*

[@thomasjenewein8874]

Man. I couldn’t afford something to be scammed.

[@AmieReva]

An artist I commissioned a pretty expensive ref from, got scammed by a fursuit maker that was gonna make their partial suit, so they unfortunately had to refund all of their customers and left the fandom :( They lost like $1500. I hope they are doing ok financially, because they did really economically bad when I commissioned them :3

[@swarthylacine]

If you're a fursuit maker and you're working with minors, ask to have a video chat via Skype with them and their parents stating their approval and record it for proof. Of course explain the reason you need to proceed this way, if they're legit, they'll understand. If they don't agree (no matter what excuse they use), it's a scam. Always be wary of any client and don't stray from your routine checks, be clear and firm about payment deadlines. Taking commissions of anything is the same as running a business, so you have to be professional. You'll always run into weird cases no matter what, but the best you can do is be prepared !

[@39373-x]

the fact that you mentioned reverse image search tempts me to see if anyone has stolen my art before

[@ShibaInu102]

Those 11 dislikes are scammers who just got exposed! XD

[@lilymoonsuits4500]

I’ve had three cases of someone using my pictures of suits I’ve done and trying to scam others, luckily no one has been scammed. But it’s crazy that people do that kind of stuff. It’s ridiculous and awful.

[@fruttibat8002]

That one dislike is a scammer

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

2:10 the fees come out the money sent over. It’s always good to be aware of the fees cuz I’ve commissioned an artist before where neither one of us was aware of the amount of fees on PayPal sending money overseas was and I ended up having to pay more. I had to look up if there were fees on that and there were so I personally have to adjust my own commission fees for that. It sucks but as long as you’re aware of it it shouldn’t be an issue.

[@smiler4948]

Scam-dom

[@Whaiesh3827]

Join us.....

[@baileyblackwellandsophietu7001]

I never trace art and claim it as my own. I just try styles to see if they suit me and can help me in the long run with adapting my skill and style

[@rezcole]

6:29 who is this? any links?

[@HulluMel]

I had to do a fair bit of detective work to find them but they're Jinxsis on FA www.furaffinity.net/user/jinxsis

[@coffeemugger5764]

Congrats on your panel! I hope to see lots of pictures and fun times :D

[@Insanitypup]

i love your videos so much

[@pillbugprince7855]

Just a few weeks ago I got featured on furry amino, and somebody took my art, messaged random people on a platform im not on claiming they drew it, asked if they would like a commission, and charged 5x the actual amount i sell for. So many people messaged me asking for the drawing they ordered and it was just so heartbreaking to tell them that they got scammed

[@eloiseeastland5317]

I am considered a "Really young fur" but at least I make my own art (Boston in my profile pic is my character who I made). I made myself a suit. Fellow young furs, stop, your giving us a bad name.

[@GlaciaGalaxy]

I do actually trace from time to time and color it to get a better understanding of how to draw it but i always do these things: Never upload it, have the artists permissions, never claim it.

[@colorbar.s]

That's rad

[@morethanwords8882]

have fun at neonfur :3

[@oliviawashere]

Glow sticks o3o

[@benny_the_bat9410]

At 7:26 as soon as I saw that lineart I knew it immediately that it was texacyote’s lineart, because I’m using the same free lineart for helping me get the basic shape of my hyena Katrina and a cheetah for my sister

[@roboninjasaur6729]

ive seen kids selling fursuits out of cardboard CARDBOARD!! of course they didnt know any better but its sad none the less

[@fred3920]

roboninja saur It's so dangerous for the health of the customers D: I'm happy people know about that and actually disapprove those!

[@roboninjasaur6729]

I know right!

[@datadoggieein]

That sounds like something Ed, Edd, n Eddy would do.

[@sonicgirl02]

the character scam happened to me! quite a few years ago I bought an adoptable dog design off someone on DA. I didn't really use the character, I still made like 1 or 2 drawings of him, but they were all on my old laptop, and I don't think I ever uploaded them to my new art instagram. Fast forward a couple months ago, an artist I followed drew a drawing of the same character I had bought like 4 years ago saying she just bought the design from an instagram adopt page. well I commented about the design she bought possibly being from a scammer since I bought the same one. However I couldn't show her my old art of the oc because it was all on my old laptop and the screen was broken. :T I think she took my word for it and asked about it being a stolen design, but I don't think I ever heard anything from her after that.

[@trigger_core]

Pocari i bet you voted yes! 😉

[@borisyatsimov1905]

Here is what the thumbnail makes me think of: "Roses are red, paper is blank, Russians in fursuits caught robbing a bank".

[@maybooher5894]

Problems of loving an AUS KZbinr but you live in Ohio and iTS 2:47AM BUT POCCARI UPLOADED A NEW VIDEO SO HEYY WHO NEED SLEEP?! (also lol my username and what I just said hah) Edit: also for full bodies for $5 is what in gonna start commissions for 😂 I've been doing art for a while and I'm pretty confident in it so heyy starting commissions soon on my Twitter. (Psst it's May_Booher4231 if you want cheap art that's not stolen or traced sometime in December)

[@zahvik5854]

Who needs Sleep I feel it lol. Glad to see another Ohioan here. P.s. I love your icon.

[@seairavision]

I would commission you, but 1 I don't have any money yet (my grandma is gonna work on getting me a PayPal card), and 2 I don't have Twitter

[@beats7503]

Keep on your great job pocari, Im sure this video can help lots of people in the fandom. Even though my English is not good enough to understanding every words you said, but I will try my best to receive the suggestion that you give as much as possible

[@Leo_sharkbait]

Wtf why would minors do that?! I always talk to my mom before I buy a fursuit!

[@kibbesnbits8650]

Some know their parents will probably say "No" and try to get away with it. Honestly I think the parents should let the money go through to teach their kid a lesson. The maker could maybe (and yes I do mean maybe) change things up for it to be a "different" character/suit.

[@sunnysander6204]

Yeah XD I’m a minor and I’m currently saving up for a suit by petsitting. Money isn’t that hard to get. I’m also getting money by helping teachers.

[@purpletailsproductns]

one time i saw someone drawing my main persona in a random group chat i was in, claiming it as their own character. i felt SO uncomfortable and contacted a mod, who contacted the person in question and they were 'gifted' the design by an old friend. when i asked them for the pictures their friend gave them, they were all art pieces taken DIRECTLY from my blog. luckally, the person was very apologetic and reasonable, and agreed to give their character a redesign.

[@lukiethecottoncandywolf7114]

Is it still bad if you can't draw tails on your own so you copy someone else's? Because I can't draw tails or paws to save my life.

[@fred3920]

Just Another Gamer Yes it is!! If you have to take someone else's art, take it and copy it on your own art, then it's stealing, and it's really bad. Try to look at real life pictures to reference. But NEVER use someone else's art. Even if it is just a small part. It's really rude and disrespectful.

[@lukiethecottoncandywolf7114]

Okay, thanks. I was curious about it. You can't even tell because of how bad a draw tails (I draw traditional)

[@lukiethecottoncandywolf7114]

Thanks, and I do just take small details, not the full tail.

[@fred3920]

Just Another Gamer As long as toujours draw the whole thing by yourself without tracing ANYTHING... it's fine :)

[@lukiethecottoncandywolf7114]

Yeah, I refuse to trace. I'll look at it to get the shape, but I will never trace or steal.

[@jaydayeen4811]

#QNA I have two questions. One, I my art style isn't very consistent. I tend to have a toony style at tymes, and then I'll choose to draw more realistically on certain pieces, and I want to start taking commissions, how will I prevent myself from looking like a scammer? Two, do you like Monstercat (fav song?)?

[@ChickChickChirp]

I've actually become friends and acquaintances with a few of the people I comission. And they're all very sweet