Pocket Hole Mistakes to Avoid / Woodworking Joinery

[@thomasbarnaby1277]

came here for pocket holes and left with that and way more. The screw information was eye opening for me.

[@ramirobarrera2845]

Dude yes I had no idea! No wonder I was having such a hard time

[@azza536]

Same! This guy was amazingly helpful! Hopefully my desk will be perfect thanks to this guy! :D

[@rauleduardopinedo7967]

Me too was amazing !

[@brians2290]

Yeah I’m not gonna use sheet rock screws for woodworking anymore

[@lanadillard6080]

I never knew that there was that much difference in using drywall screws and ones for jigs...great and informative video..thank you sir!!

[@adamphillips6747]

Never really understood how any one can leave a thumbs down for a video that explains how to do things the proper way or on any informative video. Kudo's to you sir.

[@1LegintheGrave]

people who are usually insecure in some way feeling their knowledge is threatened. Also sometime people are desperate for a particular answer to an issue they're facing, they check out a video, the video doesn't showcase the issue they're facing (mainly because that's not the purpose for the video), they are pissed off, they thumbs down. It's so stupid but that's part of our psyche with utilizing KZbin.

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👏👍👏👍👏👍👏!!!!!!!

[@wilnavanschalkwyk2401]

Jealousy makes you nasty, maybe it's all it is...

[@lanadillard6080]

Thumbs up!!! This man was a wealth of information..I am just a beginner in wood working and using a jig...I learned ALOT from this video...who the heck gave this guy a thumbs down? Probably because they're jealous of his intelligence..thank you sir for an informative video!! Two thumbs up!!!

[@sanderd17]

Well, now they can't anymore...

[@jahmight6279]

Not only are your videos extremely informative but your pleasant vibe is good energy.

[@ExeterThurbers]

Colin, whatever aspect of woodworking you are instructing, I love your inviting, informal, learned style. Most experts are afraid to talk about mistakes they have made, but your humility makes you a world class teacher. You share successes and failures with equal enthusiasm and awesome solutions. Thank you for all you do!

[@A6Legit]

The mistakes are how you actually learn

[@David-hm9ic]

Not sure how I missed this when it was new. The strength demonstration of the pocket screw was impressive. I've popped the heads off of plenty of sheet rock screws but know better than to use the bugle heads in pocket screws. The technology and metallurgy of screws has come a long way in the last decade. Kudos!

[@owl1873]

Thanks for the heads up. I just made the transition from 37 years of general constructio to finish work as my full time retirement hobby. Quality screws = quality finish work. 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@sharit7970]

'Everything you ever wanted to know about pocket holes, but didn't know who to ask' Well done!

[@debSilbert]

Colin, thank you for bringing my dad’s memory forefront. He wore a watch exactly like yours and I haven’t seen it in such a long time. Made me smile.

[@aswinivallampati5382]

I really liked the demos for different types of wood and the way all the information was presented - without pretense and the way an uncle might teach you 'tricks of the trade." Thank you very much for this video.

[@jonny1218]

I love it when I come across a KZbin video that is comprehensive, direct into the point, descriptive, and has excellent video close-ups

[@brucelee3388]

When you are sharpening drill bits (or just about anything) free hand, use a felt tip marker (Sharpie, Artline) to completely color the flat you are going to grind away. Then you will be able to see if you are actually holding the abrasive parralell to the surface rather than rounding it over - by wearing away the marker ink - repeat the inking as needed.

[@joebrown1382]

Good tip.

[@MrMarkpeggy]

Thanks for the good tip.

[@swoodward9792]

Great idea! Thank you

[@PIANOSTYLE100]

Great tip.

[@Scott_G]

@thisoldtony would be proud. :)

[@christopherklosowski8213]

Great information for someone who is a novice at pocket hole joinery .

[@kerrygibbs8198]

A lot of useful information presented in a easy to understand way.

[@dennispalmer6007]

What about water based glues for outside projects? Example Gorrila. You need to dampen your joints before attaching to make it stronger. They apparently are recommended for outdoor use. I have a original Kreg handed down from my father. I’m 73 so you can imagine this thing is old. Use it a lot and have learnt things that will be helpful in future projects. Thanks

[@markanderson2904]

@@dennispalmer6007 The original Gorilla glue is a polyurethane. It is not water-based. It requires moisture to cure. Once cured it is water-proof. It is not recommended for gluing wood that will be continuously submerged in water . However, it works well for projects that get wet from time-to-time.

[@soujrnr]

Good information! I was especially impressed with the strength of the screws in the last segment when the head didn't break off. Thank you for the video!!

[@raymonddersch4195]

Great presentation! So many years of experience condensed to a few short minutes. Thank you for sharing.

[@Samqdf]

Thanks Colin, it's people like you that make the internet a better place.

[@byrne2310]

Great information on what screws to use, AND why! One comment: in your pocket hole strength demonstration in various wood types I noted that the orientation of your test pieces was the opposite of what I have learned elsewhere, specifically, to get better grip and less tendency to break, your pocket and screw should not be on the inside of the joint pointing toward the outside corner of the piece. That reduces the support on the second piece significantly. The pocket should be on the outside of the piece allowing it to point INTO the second piece. (I hope that makes sense without a diagram…LOL.)

[@TheTubeDude]

A great and important lesson for weekend warriors like me. I had no idea about some critical issues that were explained here. Highly recommend this YT. Thank you to the presenter.

[@grahammiddo8014]

Colin. I’m just contemplating purchasing a pocket hole jig here in England. Your video has been very helpful to me as I’ve never used one before. So thank you for taking your time ( as always)in a very instructional manner to ward off the pitfalls.

[@bigdogwdc]

I’ve never seen the explanation on the different types of screws before. This really made it simple and easily understandable. I can really use this. Thank you for the info!

[@DEG1985]

Well today I learned several new things with this great class and tremendous teacher at the KZbin school, very important information with great clarity and details, a resounding success.

[@virgilholmes6688]

Great video. The simple techniques in your 14 minute video can save hours of frustration for those new to pocket holes.

[@nunyabiznes3901]

Thank you for this video! I'm getting ready to use my Kreg jig for the first time, and sometimes you learn more by seeing what you DON'T want to do than by watching the how-to videos!

[@lanadillard6080]

Amen..I'm buying my first kreg jig and just starting to get into furniture refurbishing and wood working...And I'm sixty and just found my passion...this video was amazing with all the information..thank you sir!!

[@norenemoreno6463]

Simple. ....but one of the most important lessons for any word worker at any level. Thank you Sir.

[@stevehaire6324]

Great video and advice, however I was always taught to screw pockets from the outside in as there's more material past the tip of the screw - making it more secure with a stronger hold.

[@chrisparsons3141]

Bingo.

[@davidhoward5586]

Excellent visual demonstration about different types of screw threads and heads. We can all read theory yet a visual is so much quicker and never forgotten.

[@andrewjohntomko]

I really appreciate the time you take and the pace at which you explain your videos. I am a beginner/intermediate woodworker and find your videos extremely helpful. Thank you so much to contributing toward this craft.

[@SutchiroPete]

Excellent explanation and demonstration of how some screws will shear off and others will not, and why some screws will pull a joint together and others will not. Also liked the demo of different strengths of kreg corner joints based on wood type.

[@kenstaring6257]

The part of this video about screw types was particularly informative. Of course the rest of the video was very informative as usual.

[@cricklicklers9382]

Thank you! Newbie here and feeling a little better about jumping in to some wood work projects.

[@maryfernando7545]

Thank you Colin for the helpful tips. I am an amateur worker and often feel frustrated when things go wrong. Now I know I will be making fewer stuff ups, thanks to you. Your explanations are very clear and easy to follow which makes a big difference.

[@EricLakin]

Excellent video. Just what I needed to stop screwing up with my pocket holes. Thanks!

[@RonKris]

Good information! One thing about 'Kreg' screws, they have a special thread for hardwoods; it is beneficial to use them when working with hardwoods and pocket-hole jigs.

[@jerrydempsey5428]

I watch this video a number of times every so often, just for a refresher.

[@catfishcave379]

This is one the most informative videos ever! It answers so many questions. Thank you Colin! And great tips in the comments too!

[@regryan8044]

Thanks heaps Colin, You are a inspiration . Another great Video.... Legend!

[@manny2759]

So many useful tips for new woodworkers. Appreciate your video. Thanks

[@j.j.k.thomas9681]

One of the best tutorial videos I have seen, ever; regardless of the subject! Informative AND interesting! That is not an easy thing to accomplish. Most I have found can be fun, but you'll need to go back and read the article/post/instructions on their site/blog to fully understand what is being demonstrated. Or... Dead, dull & boring (or sometimes you're left feeling a bit like you're attending a preschool class), but very informative. IF you can make it to the end of the video! So thank you! I am for sure a fan & a new subscriber! I am looking forward to enjoying the rest of your videos!👍

[@TheCarpentersDaughterUK]

0:31 genius! I need to make something like that too!

[@turrafirmaguitarchannel]

Thanks Colin your good intention to teach and your good nature comes through so clearly in this video. I am planning to build a speaker cabinet from old pine shelves and I now feel confident to proceed using this joining technique. Your tip on applying two layers of glue to end grain was gold.

[@simonpidgeon949]

Just bought a pocket hole jig , and this information is good to know, thank you 💯👍👍

[@blainegifford9045]

Wow! It’s good to have real evidence in my hand now. I really loved the tips and the final demo of strength was outstanding!

[@timpenner7858]

This old video is an example of why you have so many subscribers. Lots of good, detailed information that we can all use. Well done, sir.

[@cherylmatthews4066]

Well how informative was that, thank you for showing in detail and close up too. Great video 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@mercedesfoster482]

You are a GREAT teacher, thank you for sharing your knowledge, you are a treasure!😘

[@hotdogjoe4039]

Wow, wonderful information. I love this. As a beginner, this gives me a lot of confidence when I am doing my joinery.

[@gavinhiggins1984]

Thank you for sharing. Saves me learning the hard way.

[@RussWilsonII]

Wow, I don’t know why I never thought about why the piece pulls away from the thing you’re screwing into with screws that have threads the whole way up! Great explanation! Thanks!

[@yojoehd]

When teaching "screw fastening" in my HS tech ed classes, I always asked kids to think of a screw head as the movable jaw on a vice and the base board as the other jaw. The piece between is being "clamped" between the screw head and the base board. The board between the screw head and base board must have a shank hole drilled that is the tight outside diameter of the screw threads. The screw should be able to slide through this board right up to the head before it is being fastened to the base board.Threads should never grip the board being clamped. It takes longer but this is the way I fasten deck boards and they never crack or push apart. In furniture or cabinetmaking I always drill a pilot hole, shank hole, then countersink or counterbore in the listed order.

[@anyfoolknowthat]

Joe Russo pilot hole PLUS shank hole?

[@yojoehd]

@@anyfoolknowthat YES ! Especially in hardwoods. 1. Drill the pilot hole through both boards to be fastened in their aligned position ( this drilled hole is a tight diameter to the screws inside thread diameter for good thread grip) 2. Drill the shank hole "only" through the board being secured ( you are enlarging the originally drilled pilot hole so the screw just tightly slips through to the head) 3. If you are going to make the screw head flush, align and drill a countersink into the shank hole on the board being secured. Or, you can choose to drill a counterbore of a specific diameter and the cut a plug and fill the counterbore hole. With this process, the boards are always pulled tight and not separated. Note: When I lay down deck boards, I usually only drill a shank hole in the top deck board to alleviate splitting. Special deck screws will cut the pilot in soft framing boards and the heads also have a cutting action that countersinks the head.

[@anyfoolknowthat]

Joe Russo Sounds like you’re carrying 3 different drivers (?)

[@yojoehd]

@@anyfoolknowthat You are correct. If I am doing cabinet work I am using drills outfitted with proper bits and a driver. This usually means 4 drills required. Three for drill and countersink and one with a screwdriver bit. In a decking install, 2 drills, one with a shank hole bit to drill through the decking board and then another fitted with the screwdriver bit to drive self tapping deck screws which usually don't require a pilot hole. Early in my teaching career, within the framework of my budget, I always added drills to my tool inventory. I did not want kids waiting around for a drill or wasting time constantly changing bits. You can do everything with one drill but your production time will be greatly increased.

[@takismantas1159]

Love the very end of the video explaining why drywall screws are for drywall and not for wood. People complaining how expensive pocket hole screws are. At least now they know why you get what you pay for. If you go through the effort to make pocket holes then it's cheaper to use the proper screws. Use drywall screws only if you enjoy removing a broken head screw from hardwood. Keep up the nice videos Colin.

[@jerrybutler1336]

just in this one video i saw 3 things i was doing wrong, or had wondered about, thx loads, keep up the good work

[@jodiemim8584]

wow. from a teacher i just have to say you explain things so well and so clearly! super helpful.

[@DM-ll8kl]

Kind of makes you appreciate the extra cost of Kregg screws.

[@ksnax]

Which really is not very much if you buy them in larger counts.

[@fpvcoder9200]

I'm just starting off with using pocket holes in my projects so I'm glad I found this video.

[@robertabullock9956]

Thanks for the info. I especially liked the tips on how different woods react to this technique. I appreciate these types of videos you do.

[@markbaker743]

The trouble with his demonstration is that he had the screws going toward the end of the receiver piece, which is inherently weaker and to be avoided per Kreg's fundamentals. It would be a better demo if he had done the joinery properly.

[@mattinlb533]

THE THREAD ON THE TOP OF THE SCREW! THIS INFORMATION WOULD HAVE SAVED ME HOURS LAST WEEKEND AND A FIST HOLE IN MY WALL.... LOVE HOW YOU COVER THE DETAILS! THANK YOU!

[@ruben-wb7bt]

Speaking of pocket hole mistakes, the most common and you did it too (like at 5:15) you screw it on the underside, wich is prettier but way weaker because there is not much wood left to hold the screw ! If you screw it on the top, the tip of the screw point inside the other piece of wood and not towards the edge cut. Way stronger. Try it !

[@colinfraser9778]

The glue tips for pine are seriously helpful, Colin, thank you, never thought about it before, but it is obvious and works well. Cheers.

[@midlife_crossroads]

I’ve been working these for years and had no idea about half this stuff! Thank you, Sir, for your great videos. Also your one about making shaker cabinet doors and drawer fronts resulted in a practically new kitchen at my place!

[@evangelineking3930]

Omgosh. Thank-you for this video! I'm a woman, but we just bought a house and my hubby doesn't do tools lol so I am going to do all the wood working in the house. I'm so thankful for your video cuz I was gonna use dry wall screws for all my wood projects! I was so glad to see your clear examples of what happens when you use them. I've had those things happen to me and couldn't figure out why. Thanks so much. I'm gonna go buy some of those round head screws you were using.

[@whohastimeforthis]

Outstanding!!! I've been looking for a video about this very thing!! Thank You! Very informative and thorough.

[@ProductionsLZM]

Colin. I can’t say enough how lovely it is to hear you telling things ! Clear and concise explanations and demonstrations. Thank you sir for sharing your expertise !

[@crazybigyo]

I saw in another video at 4:55 that it's not strong when you put the pocket hole on that side because there isn't enough wood holding the screw. The screws should be driving towards the long side of the wood, not the end.

[@ΓΙΩΡΓΟΣΠΑΠΑΔΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-ν9π]

Educational, calming and with very nicely presented details for people like me knew in the pocket hole application. Nice video

[@mickdog2]

it's interesting how much the Kreg jig has changed. Mine is much more difficult to adjust, in fact, I'm not certain it can be adjusted like that. Fine threads work better on hardwoods, don't they? I really like your clamping jig

[@docmacg6315]

I learn so much watching your videos. Thank you.

[@draztiqmeshaz6226]

Perfect timing Colin, thank you! I'm about to glue up my first large project involving a lot of pocket screws and in testing had already encountered one unforseen problem so I was quite nervous

[@dippitydoinit]

This channel is priceless for a first time homeowner and budding woodworker like myself. Now if only I could afford more tools, time and space I'd be set like a pro!

[@Guardian_Arias]

you can also press the glue into the end grain with your finger and immediately add more glue for the glue up. You can actually feel the glue seep into the grain and see when it stops taking glue.

[@leebrewer1190]

The education about the screws was something I am kicking myself for not thinking about! It just makes sense drywall screw would split the wood. Thanks for this info!

[@ianrudden4603]

Great video thank you. I’m new to using pocket holes, when I set the depth of the bit and guide I assume it’s for the thickness of the piece I am drilling as opposed to the piece it’s being joined to?

[@grrmtthgrrmtth3000]

Just starting wood working for fun. Great video. Thanks

[@retroreviews1278]

Thank you so much for all the videos! I'm mostly self-taught and just getting into wood working. Your information has helped a ton, thank you!!

[@johntaylor1359]

Excellent tutorial. So many no nonsense tips.....thank you john uk

[@richardleslie410]

Colin: There was a lot of useful information here and I know you were showing the benefits of types of wood for pocket holes. but when making pocket joints though, drilling from inside to the outside leaves no strength in the joint where the screw is only anchored in the fragile edge of the wood rather than anchoring them in the meat of the board and often will protrude through. if used from the outside in there leaves a hole to be filled.

[@rohaeliaful]

he is doing it wrong that's why it is too weak

[@Colorado-Tinkering]

I thought so as well. Odd.

[@mickpicker9089]

The only time I would go inside to outside is when you really don't want to see the screws like on a piece of furniture, otherwise your right.

[@AlexWard]

@@mickpicker9089 And if you used glue it would be fine? I'm just getting into this and going to buy a jig soon.

[@mickpicker9089]

@@AlexWard There are definitely times were glue is better. Glue is usually really good on projects that are indoors were you dont want screws visible and that wont expand and contract alot. But you can get a really strong joint with both screws and glue.

[@MuayThaiTherapy]

Like watching the Yoda of woodworking......Genius

[@charlevoix418]

And if I may add: most of the time, good quality pocket hole screws will be "Self Tapping" type, that does a better job, when screwing.

[@danlopretto7222]

Came to add the same comment. An additional comment about drill selection: in oak you want to use a drill with a clutch, not an impact driver. Once the pan head of the pocket hole screw reaches the bottom of the whole the torque of an impact driver can cause the head of the screw to pop off.

[@citizenpaul8289]

Great tips, Colin! Thank you. Anyone who thumbs down a helpful video like this is really ill.

[@rickt140]

Well, this earned my sub. Thanks!

[@mohamedwaseem3311]

Can't thank you enough for sharing your experience with the world. Got so much knowledge in just a few minutes. You explain so clearly and cover all aspects. Keep sharing your experience. Many thanks.

[@100smp]

Never have I thought this much about screwing!.... except in college. Lol

[@masucci61]

Thanks Collin for these very useful tips, including the drill bit sharpening tip

[@djpenton779]

Also the "official" pocket hole screws are self-tapping. This makes a big difference I think.

[@dalecoffing6235]

Never understood why Kreg did the extra step of having the screw self-tapping since you must pre-drill the pocket hole anyway. Maybe its because it allows you to use the screw for other applications than pocket holes?

[@jacquelinescott754]

As a first-time home owner and female DIY'er, I love your videos! Your explanations and visuals are spot-on. Thank you!!

[@patrickh92able]

Can I fill your pocket

[@Loren9431]

Great video Collin! I just started using pocket scresws, even the larger ones for 2 x 4 construction. It takes a little more time but the results are much better. Have you done a video on your clamping frame? I'll be doing some kitchen cabinet doors theis fall and would like a clamping frame like you have. Thanks again!

[@joesorrelli4460]

Your description of the joint weakness with MDF/Melamine and the pocket hole screw versus other screw types will help my boss to understand why I need the "more expensive" fasteners as opposed to the "whatever we already purchased" type. Well done

[@martys356]

Also use the right screws for the wood you are using, course thread screws for soft wood and Fine thread for hard . Use a clutch drill not a impact driver.

[@martincontreras2614]

Hi Colin, this is Martin Anaya from the San Francisco bay area, I'm a cabinet maker, and we use the pocket hole machine a lot, but we never got a demonstration of how to use other kind of screws, than the the ones that are sold for that, thank you for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us

[@natepichler]

For those demos, the screws should be angled away from the edge of the other piece. The way you had them, there is less material for the screw to hold on to.

[@Xman11ish]

I thought nobody had notice that! You are so right!

[@havocmaverick]

You are 100 % correct. Unless you are making a face frame that won't move once nailed in.

[@mookeythepimpthompson6031]

Yep.

[@mookeythepimpthompson6031]

Yep.

[@davetarrant6888]

Agree 👍🏻

[@AutotechWoodworking]

Your drywall screw demonstration showing the head shearing off when you over tightened it reminds me of what we used to tell apprentice techs when showing them how to use a click type torque wrench. "First click, the bolt is tight, second click, the bolt is broke. Remember that!"

[@duczman76]

after solid comes off.that's nothing realy new

[@AutotechWoodworking]

@@duczman76 ????

[@duczman76]

@@AutotechWoodworking it's a german saying that means don't pull the screw/bolt too tight or they're all loose again then. just imagine, you screw all the whee bolts so tight, that with even more torque they all tear off and the tire falls off the hub.now it should make more sense.my english colloquial language is no longer up to date.i'm out of school for 25yrs 😅

[@stephenpeterson7479]

They don't recommend impact drivers for pocket holes. Drills with clutches are the best.

[@greenhornadventure]

I like to use a corded drill to bore the holes and a cordless drill to drive screws.

[@anyfoolknowthat]

They should slap a giant sticker on the jig-I was knocking my bit collar loose for a couple months before I put two and two together

[@dustyandsneezing]

I’ve noticed if I give it just one or two click sounds on the impact that it’s enough to get the joint tight

[@willkinser785]

Which clutch setting is the best for pocket holes? Sorry, im new at this!!

[@anyfoolknowthat]

will kinser I do 14 on my Porter Cable driver, which goes up to 23

[@oOTBONE77Oo]

That’s helped me out loads... I’ve got to put together an oak radiator cover which I’ve had all the timber pre-cut and delivered.. I didn’t want to mess up, so this has given me some good tips... Thanks Colin 👍🏼

[@michaelmancini5773]

It absolutely does matter what type of clamp you use when drilling pocket holes, quick release clamps just plain suck, you can't hand tighten them enough to keep adequate pressure on the intersection of wood, and the joint will in some cases misalign , you need to use vise grip type clamps, or C clamps, trust me , I've been pocket joining for a long time.

[@reidsimonson]

This is very true, and I have had to learn the hard way.

[@fredjones43]

Excellent teacher. Thank you for sharing mistakes. Always attempt to do it the right way, but if you have an awareness of methods/materials known to function poorly, it will save time. Best thing to save and repurpose.

[@Sawblade02]

Ah great, now I have to add credit card diamond plates to my shopping list. I'd been wondering how to sharpen odd shape bits like those and forstner.

[@PIANOSTYLE100]

Where did you get the credit card type sharpener? Local or ship?

[@1pcfred]

They make diamond files that might be more convenient to hold? Just have to get a fine enough one.

[@manofbeard]

I have worked as a carpenter for some thirty years and I normally vary rarely use pocket holes in joinery as I still prefer traditional joints in my work. But in certain projects for speed and basic necessity, these are fantastic tips even for seasoned woodworkers. Always good to learn new tips no matter what your skill level. Nice job 👍

[@yuriykorotkevych8838]

Usual cordless drills don't snap off heads of drywall screws as easily as impact screwdrivers do as you can effectively adjust maximum torque applied in the very end of screwing. Still, using drywall screws for pocket holes is not a good idea, of course.

[@kahoycrafts]

Yeah, I can't say that I've ever snapped the head off drywall screws or tried to intentionally, but it's definitely happened with deck screws and tapcon concrete screws. Normally I drill a hole first, unless I'm actually anchoring drywall.

[@ColCurtis]

@@kahoycrafts I have broke many off when putting up drywall in my old house framed in fir.

[@ColCurtis]

I try to avoid using a drill and Phillips combination. Drill is heavy compared to an impact and Phillips screws slip out.

[@1pcfred]

Drywall screws are incredibly hard and brittle. They're really not suitable for anything besides holding drywall to studs. Although we all use them when we shouldn't. They're as hard as they are so they can pierce metal studs.

[@andrewscarrr3002]

Best bloke to watch by far. Learn why to choose correct screws. Sounds silly but it's a simple fix

[@libertyprime7943]

When you're demonstrating the joint strength @4:47, it looks like the main issue there is where you drilled the pocket holes, not the material you're using. If you had drilled the hole on the outside of the "short side", or the outside of the board with it's end grain laying on the face grain of the other board, I think the joint would be much stronger, regardless of material.

[@TM-dh2xb]

If I understand you correctly, by flipping the pocket holes to the outside of the workpiece, you would be angling the screws inward and away from the edge of the adjoining piece, giving it a little more material to keep from ripping out. It's a valid point and although that may occasionally be a viable option, the nature of using pocket holes is that you put them where they will not be seen. If that is on the inside of the workpiece, then it would be the way he demonstrated.

[@libertyprime7943]

@@TM-dh2xb Yes, that's probably a more succinct way of describing what I meant. And yes, that is true, you probably would want to hide the pocket holes where possible. I was more speaking about his point regarding different wood types being appropriate for pocket holes. I'm a very beginning woodworker, so I'm not claiming expertise on anything, but I've made that exact joint with pocket holes in pine or scrap plywood for shop projects where I didn't care about the looks, and the joint is plenty strong if done the opposite way demonstrated in this video. I would say on something where looks are more important, perhaps choosing a different type of joint is the way to go rather than using pocket holes from inside out, even if you're working with a harder wood like oak. Otherwise thought the video was very good, and I learned several things from it.

[@emmanuellewilts2934]

Thank you so much for the additional information. The screw information was very enlightening and I'll be pickier about what I use from now on

[@MrNikke96]

so at 4:30 there is the "MDF" test piece but is it just me or is that more particle board than MDF ??

[@edwalker506]

its actually melamine board which is basically particle board covered by formica. And yes MDF is a different material.

[@MrNikke96]

@@edwalker506 yes sorry should have made that more apparent, i know its melamine so its particle board but thank you for claryfying :) still, he has MDF on the video while its not, correct ?

[@edwalker506]

@@MrNikke96 You are correct it is NOT MDF. MDF is much stronger

[@Ed-lz4jv]

Yup, that was Particle board LOL

[@russellchevrette8467]

Without a doubt one of your best videos. And I have have watched most of them.