First Looks at PSE Levitate 2022 with MFJJ!!!

[@addicted2archery199]

I just picked one of these up. 2 years later...this bow at 28.5" and 60lbs is amazing. Most accurate (for me) once tuned that I've ever shot. It is a stiff but smooth draw cycle and extremely light and unique.

[@kellenpucher2849]

Man, if PSE and Mathews were able to join forces, you might have the ultimate bow. Combine a V3X 33 riser, including bridgelock, centered cable guides and parallel limb design and 6.5" brace height, with a PSE-style riser grip. Then throw on the previous PSE Evolve cam profile, with tweaks from the E2 cam that improve cable side load and efficiency. Whew. That bow would be perfect for western hunting through 3D.

[@kellenpucher2849]

Also, saying this because I am one of those guys who just can't get along with the "jumpy" feeling off the back wall for Mathews. I love the way the PSE Evolve cam draws and holds.

[@stokermeister3]

The body of the bow reminds me of Gumby 😮

[@TheArrowsEdge]

What let off did you shoot with? Thanks for the video!

[@troybengel691]

ya, not least bit objective. i am 59 yrs old, shot bow at 70lbs, by far the most forgiving, smooth, vibration free, bow i have ever shot, period! yes, price is crazy

[@billmcstay194]

Whatever is holding my right shoulder together... That draw cycle is sure to destroy it. Outstanding review.

[@blake_jacksonph]

Can you please review one with the EC2 cam and preferably a gen II model as they are still producing these into 2024.

[@sinepari9160]

I think the deal with the higher 'weight' bows (including the carbons) these past few years are companies keeping track of these reviews and know they sell bows. Moving weight around the bow to better balance and absorb shock/vibes stripped down like you said. If I strip all the dampeners and stabs off my RX4 Turbo it's a completely different bow in those categories.

[@MMAcrazed]

Enjoy your reviews, short, to the point, and you don't hold back. Not looking to buy a bow at this time but still like to see what is out there.

[@rockyowens2206]

What was the let off set at

[@EDHBowman]

MFJJ-any dates for the rest of PSE 2022?

[@kellenpucher2849]

Asked my local shop and they said early January. John Dudely has been hinting at new aluminum bows (replacing the EVL/NTN series) that will likely use the new cam system.

[@jordanpowell228]

This bow is tailored for western style hunters especially with long draw lengths. You can tell its a bit aggressive on the cam but what do you expect? That speed has to come from somewhere....

[@jwild5360]

Pretty sure that’s exactly what he expected considering that’s exactly what he said during the review…..

[@toddlymburner5783]

It’s not any faster than other bows though, 335 when other bows are 332 is pretty much negligible, you would never notice that. Plus it has a lot of vibe and not a great draw cycle.

[@ccleadge]

@@toddlymburner5783 only upgrade i see compared to the carbon stealth 35 is the addition of a rear stabilizer mount.

[@chrisochoa1222]

@@ccleadge You clearly did not do your research. Upgraded bearings, wider limb pocket, beefier axels. Additionally the carbon is laid down differently and is supposed to have less flex and vibration. Watch other reviews, the bows smoking fast. There is definitely several upgrades you would have to decide if they are worth the change for you as a buyer!

[@ccleadge]

@@chrisochoa1222 i'm aware of those upgrades i meant visually. And yes it is faster.

[@joncooper1145]

I like your content and I appreciate the time you spend. Wts, I've shot that bow with the same spec and there is no lasting vibration like you portrayed. At least in my experience with the levitate. In fact I was shocked at good the bow felt bare.

[@marshallzurovec2496]

Probably weren’t shooting a 350 grain arrow. That’s terribly light of you’re worried about vibration! I shoot 470-520 grains and it’s really nice to shoot. The draw cycle isnt the greatest, but you knew that before you pulled back the bow as he mentions.

[@ryanoneil6747]

I had the same experience and it’s probably closer to ibo at 80% letoff

[@hellcatoutdoors]

They done a great job of promoting this bow, it’s a rocket ship for sure but man it’s a pricey beast.

[@A_Primavera]

I know you're a busy guy, but if possible, could you take a look at the pse altera?

[@josephfolsom2030]

Thanks for the no nonsense review.👍

[@Gibbs-Bijan-moon]

Be honest , was it stiff draw or do you need to hit the weight room ?

[@TheSchmuel]

hahahaha

[@MrShysterme]

you're probably 6 inches shorter than him and have to lift to be seen as a full man

[@chubbs3119]

Which bow would you rather buy the levitate or vx3

[@robertfazekas4607]

Hi Josh! Could you do a test of Obsession defcon M2-7? Kind regards Robert

[@MrLupold]

Great Job Josh! like the bow and Beard!!

[@camlake606]

how much speed would be saved using a drop away as opposed to the biscuit? just curious

[@KTMsoldier1988]

Maybe 5 FPS

[@melvinsacromentoe]

He said in one vid he tested it back and forth and it was 1.5-2 fps

[@thereaper4396]

A pile.

[@colecathcart8572]

He did a video and it is 1.5

[@KTMsoldier1988]

Really going to depend on some variables as well. Mainly length height and helical of fletching will all have an impact on it but as long as his tests are consistently using the same arrows/fletchings then it will be 1.5-2 fps.

[@jons7e]

Super light and fast. For the right situation it stands apart from the rest.

[@ryanoneil6747]

Was this at 90% let off

[@stick__shooter]

What's the reflex on the Levitate/Mach 1?

[@frankr608]

Are you going to get a Elite EnVision fir a review please ?

[@toddlymburner5783]

In your opinion why did you say the V3X 29 was slow at 332 FPS on a 340 IBO but this bow you say is fast at 335 on a 348 IBO?

[@jmathis3]

Oof

[@Buran01]

3" shorter, same BH and still slower. By the way I don't think that they are slow (are amongst the fastest in 2022), just unfaithful to the manufacturer claims.

[@jmathis3]

@@Buran01 he’s saying the “slow” v3x is 97% accurate to its rating at 332/340 and the PSE is 96% accurate to its rating at 335/348. Those numbers are essentially the same, and the V3X would actually be faster. The end of the day it’s all personal preference to feel and everyone has a bias to certain bows. Both bows are fast and awesome, ones designed by one of the greatest shooters in the world and cost almost 2x the other. I will probably be building one of those bows for next season.

[@Buran01]

@@jmathis3 Designed? The Levitate is a Mach 1 with different cams, and I doubt Dudley "designed" anything aside of the logos in the riser. I think this year most of brands chose to lie with their IBO specs. Other than that, these two bows are fine but this year I'll buy either an Atlas or the Highline, based on the reviews.

[@jmathis3]

@@Buran01 designed is a loose term. He explained in his video he worked directly with them, so part of the “design” team. Those bows are massive, I do a lot walking through thick brush and get into tight spots to hunt from a climber, so I like a compact bow. Tried a defcon for the past 6 years and want to get back under 30”

[@bryanparryhunter]

Turns out the manufacturers test their IBO speed in space. Zero air friction/gravity adds 13 FPS

[@JBASH2011]

"for all you meatheads out there that have to have that"....Love it. And true (I was a meathead once)

[@tsnellyville]

Guilty - I am still a meathead

[@gearhead682010]

I’m totally good with my 2016 Pse dream season Decree at 31 3/8” axle to axle and still underneath 5 pounds all decked out with everything

[@all4freedom100]

Hearing you grunt and groan during the draw and watching you draw like you’re pulling a caterpillar D10 make me think a Mathew’s is in my future.

[@americanswang95]

Center of axle pin to center of axle pin .maybe the out to out measurements is off because of that .just a thought great videos 🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@Buran01]

Or due let off setting or DL setting: PSE usually delivers their bows at 29" DL, not 30".

[@darrind8697]

Was it pulling 70 lb ?? And would the extra 1/2" A to A effect the speed ??

[@Favorites2499]

Thank you thank you thank you! You can really tell the last few inches of the draw is agressive. Compared to the evolve cam system is it a huge difference? Also for the evl and this bow what limb dampeners would you suggest for this wide limbs?

[@ccleadge]

yea the back end is more like an full throttle

[@chrisochoa1222]

I would like to see you shoot the bows with some stab and sight to make it a real world feel on the bow especially since everyone is going to put accessories on the bow. Maybe some shooting at 20 yards to give a feel on how easy or bad bows shoot and aim.

[@davhuf3496]

Enjoy your videos! Been out of archery for some time, but it sure has gotten expensive. WOW!

[@jeffprince2667]

Enjoy your reviews on here but I have to say this one I have to disagree. I went bow shopping and really didn’t want to even try this bow because of the review. Watching that big hump at the end didn’t interest me at all. I shoot Elites so very smooth draw. The shop I was at had one so I thought what the hell. This bow at 80% let off was a way different animal. Liked it so much I ordered one. Like you do with the bow techs flip disc I would like to see with the Pse let off changes as well. Again enjoy all your reviews.

[@cascadianmysticism8133]

What limb dampers do you recommend?

[@peterbuilttough3406]

Stabilizer will reduce vibration as well, want speed your gonna have aggressive cams no way around it.

[@weiserbud12]

I like your reviews great job. Any chance the vibration on some of these bows could come from the bow shop whisker biscuit you have on all of them??

[@kidbowjb]

How can your chrono be off for every review

[@raysimonds3927]

When's the elite envision review

[@aaronmcwilliams7014]

Awesome job again. Really like your content. Alway watch your reviews for insight before I buy. Waiting to try an RX-7. Looking forward to that review. Currently shooting RX-5 and RX-4. Actually like the 4 better. Again great job!

[@reaganriddle]

Scale of 1-10, how good is it just overall?

[@Hungrybird474]

Found a used 2008 monarch by diamond bowtech . Wow fellas . I ve heard they were awesome and then shot one . It’s smoother than my new Hoyt torrex and no fishtail at all . That’s why there’s none for sale on the market ? I think they were a grand and re selling for $600

[@yasotay]

Is it 7-800 dollars better? Probably not.

[@jasontrombley3699]

I’m curious about what you had the let off set at and whether the fps would be better if it was on 80%

[@jasontrombley3699]

I also wonder if it would change the draw cycle

[@bigrainbow25]

The draw is a little stiffer on the back end of the draw..Ill take that all day long because its really fast and quite (almost as fast as the Xpedite)...I have a mach 1 carbon and this bow has next to no vibration in the shot and is mouse fart quite..and when you strap these PSE carbon bows to your pack you will have to keep reaching back to see if its still there and you ll agree when you're on top of the mountain the price was worth it...there so damn lite and they shoot as good as any bow I ve ever owned...

[@jessephillips1554]

What let-off was that?

[@petermorphett]

How much faster is it without the vanes, as we all know (every company) do there speed tests with just a bare shaft?

[@jacobjordan9611]

A 350 grain arrow is a 350 grain arrow 🤷‍♂️

[@petermorphett]

@@jacobjordan9611 and drag is drag, when they do there over drawn and extra weight in there tests..

[@jacobjordan9611]

Do you think an arrow loses 13fps within one yard of leaving the rest due to drag from the fletching?

[@TheArrowsEdge]

@@jacobjordan9611 whisker biscuit and vanes probably drops it a bit at least, no?

[@johncannady6105]

Without vanes, whisker biscuit, and 80% letoff would put you over 340fps.

[@loserjw91]

Should've tried different let offs like with Mathews and Bowtech flip disc

[@TurboManTom]

I would bet that's how they do it for speed, lowest let-off might hit closer to 348. Also the ata being out an extra 1/4 I would've fixed that to be totally fair to the bow.

[@WM-jy9dz]

you shoot it with 3 blazer vanes through a whisker biscuit --> you have to add 5 fps at this speed range so it's damn close to the spec...

[@saransmith8773]

whisker biscuit only takes 1.5 feet per sec off max, not 5 feet!

[@MrOldarcher]

Its grate to hear honest opinion.

[@adamhenderson7951]

Great review, helps me make a decision! BTW, since it's not reaching its advertised speeds shouldn't you trade them and destroy their brand? Lol just jking.

[@vm859]

Ive owned a ton of bows and the levitate is my favorite all time. I got a mach 34 and sold it because I didnt see an accuracy difference and the levitate is faster.

[@piterex7]

Like i mentioned in previous comments cannot go wrong with Hoyt torrex XT one ! For the price and performance on a same test 330fps awesome bows without breaking your wallet! No need to spend 1900$

[@sheldonmckenzie9766]

Please review an APA black mamba and a Bear refine!

[@brucelewis1017]

What bow release are you useing sir???

[@Buran01]

The Truball Abyss or Fulclum, I think.

[@quantumeraser4833]

Scott Sigma

[@peterbuchholz1735]

Change to a drop away and take the vanes off. You get around 345.

[@Buran01]

Lol. You'll get +2 fps from that at most.

[@Briguy933]

Still got ez green presses?

[@joshjones6862]

Yep. Lots!!

[@steve8828]

What let off? I shot the 2020 Mach 1 at 90% and the draw had a terrible hump at the end. At 80% it was there but not nearly as bad.

[@ccleadge]

different cam the mach 1 uses the evolve cam, this cam is new. and the ecs/evolve se cam is pretty smoothe while still maintining speed (my evolve 35 at 62lb with a 350gn at 30.5" has an fps of 325)

[@jumboredneck2831]

2300 in canada. We always get screwed.

[@Hungrybird474]

Compounds dominate over any other bow .

[@zzz7zzz9]

No they don't.

[@Ennis09]

“ really stiff in the back end “ 😳

[@Bowhunterohio]

Every bow he has tested out has been a little more than 10 fps off. Maybe he needs to recalibrate his chronograph. It’s like scales. Over time they loose some calibration no matter how good the brand.

[@Hungrybird474]

335 fps is really good imo .

[@toddlymburner5783]

It’s weird because i agree that nothing wrong with 335 but that is very far off from advertised 348 IBO. All brands lie about speed. I only say that because the Mathews got 332 on a 340 advertised IBO only 8 feet off and he called that slow even though it was closer to IBO then the PSE. The speed difference between the Mathews 332 and the PSE 335 is negligible! You would never notice that. But he says one is slow and the other is fast.

[@Hungrybird474]

It sounds quiet too …

[@AA-mk4pu]

I shot one yesterday, not as quiet as Bowtech or Mathews bows

[@JOSHWAAHHHH]

Someone hates PSE didn’t even address the new cam system and the differences they made with the carbon.

[@AA-mk4pu]

$1900 bare bow, hand shock, loud, hard draw. Hhmmmm but it was designed by Dudley, where’s my credit card!

[@kellenpucher2849]

To be fair, hand-laid carbon fiber, especially from US workers, is expensive. Hoyt RX-5 Ultra is only $150 less, and is 10fps slower and 30% heavier.

[@Archery116]

It may be fast, and light, but hasn't everyone figured out that doesn't make or brake your hunt? A happy medium, a balance, somewhere in the middle....etc. has proven to be the best, most consistent bows on the market. There's a reason why Mathews is probably the highest selling bow in the country and they realistically don't change much year to year, other than fine tuning smoothness. Basically the same cam for many years now. And I'm now a Mathews shooter, but PSE even with Dudley, will never be the quality or consistency of a Mathews or Hoyt, and they want a fortune for that thing. If you haven't figured out you don't need a 3lb bow and 340+ FPS, go ahead and spend away.....just an opinion like everyone else's.

[@Buran01]

Mathews are the best sellers due despite their disadvantages overall they are still a nice bows with the best marketing, and a very good (albeit Apple level expensive) echosystem of accesories. But the three larger brands (Mathews, Hoyt and PSE) are lagging behind others in finish (Prime, Elite, Bowtech and Athens are way ahead) and lately also in tech (no rotating mods in the Mathews is a crime, albeit excusable to certain degree due they at least provide spare parts for decades).

[@Sean-pw3yr]

As someone who owns a phase 4 and a levitate gen 2, the levitate takes it. If you’re hunting deer stands back east I can understand the appeal of the bland Matthew, out west the speed and accuracy of the levitate takes over.

[@FlynVOutfttrsNGundogs-Jordy]

Riser looks like the old black kids compound bows lol. There's alot of performance packed into this thing but I think personally it looks like ass

[@eriknilsson8288]

Bowtech solutions ,338 fps is faster

[@castlefrank9302]

$1900 for a bow with stiff draw cycle, annoying hand shock and speed of 335fps? Absolutely NO.

[@ccleadge]

alot of that cost is the weight reduction. think pse stinger (bare) weight while the carbon is fully setup at a simmilar weight. we have a stinger x (mrs), supra focus x2, evolve 35, carbon stealth 35 (3D open hunter setup) my 3d and the mrs stinger are near the same weight (8oz extra on the stealth +31" stab +10")

[@marklammers6117]

Wait till you shoot one…. These bows are in a class all their own.

[@michaelbushey2787]

And it's ugly as hell

[@sticks7971]

@@marklammers6117hoyt vtm. Dead in the hand , quiet as a mouse , 332 fps. Mathews v3x and p4 right there too… oh yeah and they’re a dream to draw back. Pse gets a big thumbs down

[@marklammers6117]

@@sticks7971 I shoot a Hoyt Axius Ultra as my backup/hunting bow and I love it. Shot/sold a Matthews Vertix a few years back and really like the v-series bows as well. My Levitate kicks ass on all of them. To each his own….

[@ridgerunner7036]

13fps off ibo??? Pse junk!

[@Chasintail11]

After shooting this bow and watching this review It’s very clear this dudes a matthews fanboy. This bow is incredibly smooth and fast. Hes built like a 14 year old girl and made it look like he was drawing back 200lbs haha. And he didn’t even tune the bow to factory specs before testing. 1/2” longer ata makes a huge difference. Terrible review

[@rawlyhuddleston4471]

There’s no wayyyy in hell I’m buying a $1900 pse Mathews makes ten times the bow that is better in every aspect for way way way cheaper

[@liamboyle9199]

10x you say...😅

[@kellenpucher2849]

I've shot the Mathews V3X, and I prefer PSE. Maybe not this exact bow, but PSE's Evolve cam system (the levitate has the new E2 desing) draws smooth and produces equivalent speeds. I really disliked the Mathews grip positioning (it forces me to shoot off the heel of my hand), and don't care for the "jumpy" feeling on the back wall. I was prepared to order a new V3X the day I shot it, but decided to hold off to see what the new aluminum PSEs offer in January.

[@groundrootsoutdoors627]

600 to 700 dollars over due to the name associated (Dudley). Not worth it

[@AA-mk4pu]

Anything Dudly “invents” sucks. He tends to F things up IMO

[@groundrootsoutdoors627]

@@AA-mk4pu is that why Hoyt gave him the boot

[@AA-mk4pu]

@@groundrootsoutdoors627 can’t speak for Hoyt but I don’t see a single thing he’s improved on PSE bows. He did bring over customers to them, but that’s it as far as I see

[@groundrootsoutdoors627]

@@AA-mk4pu well I own the EVL and the NXT they have a lot more options for stabilizing, rest location, etc. than his NTN. I get it though he set it up for that western style hunting but I don’t see how it would help

[@landonfogle5903]

Looks like a boat paddle

[@DBZSTAY]

Yea that bow is extremely ugly

[@RemedyTalon]

It's just so ugly

[@-lovefromnh]

Same as the past. Ugliest carbon bow on the market! All in the performance they say. I have known a few that could suck a golf..... exactly!

[@jackhammer0925]

This is the nicest looking bow on the market in my opinion. Still wouldn’t pay $1.9 for it tho.

[@-lovefromnh]

@@jackhammer0925 that is a hell of a price tag!

[@frankr608]

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[@joshsinglefooter]

Love your content!