Ive seen strings built for speed back in the day ,diferent materials, stran count , combination of materials, serving , weights, speed balls ,ect. Onestly im surprised this hasnt been done already with all the new tech and materials we have now. Congrats Gas Strings for stepping up your game
@the_sharp_carpenter5 күн бұрын
Would be interesting to see a 100 shot "broke in" actory string vs 100 shot "broke in" GAS set. And like mentioned dialed in tune on both
@Sparky5135 күн бұрын
I tested A3 bloodlines with gas, and I won't be buying gas anymore I will say that. I papertuned after putting a few arrows threw it, took measurements on everything and the gas stretch and was getting bad peep twist after 500 arrows. A3 now over 3,000 arrows and hasn't budged, no stretch, no peep twist, still shooting bullet holes, ect. Only down side to A3 is their lead time. Think it was 5-6 weeks to get them in. And I got closer to 8fps speed increase with the A3 which I wasn't even expecting at all, seen other ger 10fps with the A3 bloodlines. I'm still not impressed with gas at all, they have great marketing and a cool name, are they quality strings yes, but when I can get better for cheaper or thw same price it's a no brainer. Also 2.5-5fps I'm not worried about, I'll go up a few pounds in draw weight if I was worried about speed. But that's their marketing at its finest, got all these idiots about to spend 200+ on strings for 2.5-5fps 😂😂 their geniuses
@chrishorton91585 күн бұрын
A3 bloodline did same for me rx7
@tsi-rocket41445 күн бұрын
@@Sparky513 I'm glad I read your comment lol. After issues with my VEC99 strings from a very popular forum string builder I called Brent. Immediately after my conversation with Brent I ordered a set of b99 string/cable from him. The wait time sucked I wont lie but wow are they excellent strings. Pulled the string/cables off the paper clip meticulously on the install to find my cam timing was spot on right off the paper clip. Set my peep and tied it in and 3000shots later my cam timing and peep are still spot on. Brace and ATA are also still spot on. I chronographed my bow at a shop with my factory strings but haven't been able to catch them at a good time to be able to chrono my A3 strings yet. Doesn't help I figured out how to tune my own bows along with buying a press and do all my own work allowing me to buy used bows for good deals and set them up myself. This doesn't earn me points at the local pro shop haha. I did however have to note that my rip xv arrows exhibited weak spine after the A3 B99 string/cable install and I had to raise my 50 and 60 pins. But without numbers it doesn't matter. All my local shops offer Gas strings but one of them advised me Gas had been having issues? I can't confirm but the bow tech that told me this has been doing it a long time and he's a good bow tech and his shop still has Gas signs all over. Either way he adds sauce to your experience with Gas.
@Toe_Knee_694 күн бұрын
@@Sparky513that’s funny because I just bought a set of A3 bloodlines for my Lift 33 last season. Took 7 weeks and multiple phone calls to get a response but the strings are nice.
@Cparchery...4 күн бұрын
@Sparky513 i used a3 a lot I've swoped to unbound and top flight i feel bad for Brent from a3 he has had some stuff going on but at the same time I can't make people wait 2 months for strings
@bertcard23075 күн бұрын
Next video idea a full tune after a 50 shot break in period. Let’s see if it makes a difference?
@aaronmcwilliams70142 күн бұрын
5ft per second is a definite deciding factor on replacement strings. Factor in how much for good arrows and now balance it with strings. It’s a no brainer for the little bit of extra money.
@tommy0019965 күн бұрын
The 60fps looks so good, good job and keep on the great work! You make a big difference in the archery industry!
@the_sharp_carpenter4 күн бұрын
@@tommy001996 i agree this video was crisp and edited well 👌
@slimandlean5 күн бұрын
Cool video, I’ll show it to my brother who has a Lift. I just got a set of gas strings for my Bear resurgence. Excited to feel the improvement on the bow.
@tommy0019964 күн бұрын
The draw lenght on the GAS seems a bit shorter than the stock string by about 1/4 of an inch? The Mathews one had the 30inch mark aligned with the rest bracket.
@RKeaton4 күн бұрын
Yup saw that too
@rossmattson88079 сағат бұрын
Keep up the good content. Your Chanel is awesome !!!
@fultz.c925 күн бұрын
Love Eric and his team over at Gas I live like hour away from them over there in Clay City, Ky. There all great down to earth people.
@Lucas_Palmer_Archery8 сағат бұрын
Durability and consistency is the most interesting question to me. if I put a new set on in the spring practice all summer, retune after a break in period, are they still good come September, October. If I need to retune, if poundage has dropped or other issues. All the work I did to dial in my system of the summer now changes a little. Just my 2cents but I'm not a speed guy. MFJJ always delivering great content!
@GrantBontrager5 күн бұрын
Im not usually this type of person to point something out in the comments but i did notice you didnt put the monkey tails back on the new set. Now i know it wouldnt effect it much but im curious how it would be if they were on there like the original set. Love the vids Josh i watch them all!
@JohnCollins-o8w5 күн бұрын
Beat me to the monkey tail comment👌
@mikereed8455 күн бұрын
When I put the hole shots back on my AX33 I actually gained 2 FPS. Which surprised me cause they weigh near 60 grains.
@vm8594 күн бұрын
@@mikereed845 in speed nock area. They dont call them speed nocks for nothin.
@2ndAveScents4 күн бұрын
@@mikereed845the extra weight is what gives you the fps. Speed nocks on strings are there because they add fps due to their weight
@kairos_01-d5d4 күн бұрын
That axle mounting on the lift is almost exactly like mounting the front axle on a dirt bike, at least the ktm's I've had/have.
@tsi-rocket41445 күн бұрын
Honest question Josh I hope you have a response. How do strings made of Bloodline B99 from places like Catfish or A3 compare to these strings? My B99 strings have at least 3000shots on them and a season of whitetail hunting and the peep, timing, and poundage is still the same. Dropped draw weight from 70.5-69.5 pretty early into "shooting them in" and the poundage has stayed at 69.5# for a couple thousand arrows. I'm excited Gas has released these new strings it would just be great to see a comparison between these Gas string/cable and a set of B99 string/cables from someone.
@tylerdavis67214 күн бұрын
When I switched from factory on my lift 33 to A3 b99 I gained just as much fps as gas is claiming.
@bearclawbeav61274 күн бұрын
Same here. I wish I had a decimal reader. I think they sound quiter as well. But really can't tell with out the meter
@jaywest93274 күн бұрын
So is the Nashville shop officially open? I don’t see the links in the description.
@blackbeard03234 күн бұрын
It is unnecessarily complicated to change the strings and cables, especially when compared to every other manufacturer. Guess that leaves them some room for improvement! I'll stick with my Bowtech until they're as user-friendly... I'm stoked about the new Gas products, though.
@db66-i6i5 күн бұрын
live in bama and would love to bring my bow to tennessee and get your opinion on if it's set up right from my local shop. love the channel
@garrettheapy72544 күн бұрын
Do you sell those draw length arrows?? I need one of those
@chilson075 күн бұрын
Do the monkey tails on the stock strings cause it to be a little slower ? If both were tested with or without would that make a difference?
@Known2Bintense4 күн бұрын
On the lift i lost a few fps removing the monkey tails actually
@Known2Bintense4 күн бұрын
I lost speed removing the monkey tails on the lift
@houghtonic19754 күн бұрын
I would weigh the factory strings and then weigh the gas strings. I’m pretty sure that is the only way that a string change can make your bow shoot faster if all the other specs are identical before / after the starting change
@IdahoSwede885 күн бұрын
Was the description AI written? You forgot to tell chat GPT it was about archery strings ;)
@eclipsearchery93874 күн бұрын
Best thing about this is the video description.....To whoever buys the tools in your shop - you need a rubber mallet. Allen keys, nocking pliers, a claw hammer.....for gently tapping an axle out?????
@kylefrye62655 күн бұрын
Good video! Thanks for sharing the numbers, I figured 5fps was a bit of a stretch…
@DanielMcleod-z1q4 күн бұрын
I know a lot just take everything as the gospel. But I can GURANTEE you if measure specs and get (example) 32" ata, 6' brace height , and change strings , even if the exact same make of string, getting 32" ata and 6" brave height may give 1# more or 2# less on draw weight. I can measure my trx:36 and get 36" ata and out 2 twists in cables and still have 36" ata, but niw I pick up 1-2 fps in speed .
@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoorsКүн бұрын
I Still ponder why they did not contact me when they decided to come out with these? hahah, J/K thanks for sharing sir. Dale
@DustinApple4 күн бұрын
@MFJJ .... What Bow brand comes with the best factory strings?
@pizzamilf4 күн бұрын
Mathews and Hoyt
@Muskiehunter924 күн бұрын
None, lol. Strings are a weird product. Its not like a piece of metal or plastic that can be identical product to product. Strings are as good as they have ever been but there is still a human element and every brand out there can produce a fantastic string and a crappy string from the same shop on the same day. Factory strings are just more mass produced and don't have the same level of detail and time put in them compared to aftermarket. I have used many factory strings and most have been sub-par with only one bow that surprised me being a PSE. For whatever reason they were solid strings that didn't move and lasted forever. I had another PSE and the strings were lacking... so what does that say, lol. At the end of the day aftermarket strings will always be better and almost all companies can put out a good string.... and a bad string. People tend to become loyal to a brand once they have a good experience with them. I have had good experiences with Threadz, Gas, Joey's and have tried a few others with acceptable results to... Worst has been factory mathews zebra. They were atrocious. Anyways, just sharing my opinion. Take care
@Buck2794 күн бұрын
Put new custom GAS strings on my new LIFT X33 31.5/75.8/85% Sirius Gemini 462 grains 307 fps with Garmin Put the systm X strings on yesterday 31.5/75.7/85 Same arrow 305 fps Lost 2 fps Bow tuned after both sets of strings and cables installed
@krystiantester50503 күн бұрын
-2fps -200$ 😢
@Buck27956 минут бұрын
Exactly
@stick__shooterКүн бұрын
Curious if the new strings make the bow quieter or louder than stock...
@briansteele13786 сағат бұрын
When will 50gr SS HIT inserts and letter C HIT collars be back in stock? Need to order 2 dozen of each.
@michaelbushey27875 күн бұрын
Those new joey strings are pretty sick i heard. You gain and average of 5 fps some up to 8 fps. Thats crazy.
@xforce7083 күн бұрын
I was skeptical when I watched PJ Reilly install some and he didn’t get but three if I remember right. Forty years playing this sport and building my own strings for thirty five years or so and also buying ABB, GAS, and others over the years too I just wasn’t expecting much. Would I buy them and hope for five or more? Maybe. What I really want to know about is creep, stretch and abrasion resistance qualities. Until someone finds/develops a lighter material with little to no stretch I’m just not expecting much more speed. And then if the find no stretch can the bows hold up. When Fast Flight material came out some bows built with Dacron didn’t survive the new material.
@Cparchery...5 күн бұрын
Can you please test the other gas strings to see the difference
@terencepeatman73244 күн бұрын
Would love to see the speed after it’s tuned. Would also like to know if the speed increase is the same between let’s say a 70lbs mod and a 50lb mod. A 5 fps at 50lbs would be huge for a low poundage shooter.
@kip.k4 күн бұрын
I got the new top of the line ABB strings for my non X lift 33. Mostly because my shop deals with them more than gas. They are annoyingly expensive but allegedly have a 2 year warranty against serving separation and peep rotation. Time will tell, but if the 2 year warranty is true then the cost is somewhat justifiable
@jessegillenwater4 күн бұрын
so if you swap the strings with the limb shift you have to retune the top and bottom when you reinstall?
@gunnermontez43474 күн бұрын
Good afternoon Josh, do you need the 3 inch pins to use the Matthews lift fingers or can you make the 2.5 inch pins with the EZ green press work?
@10flyingdutchman4 күн бұрын
Considering they are the same price as Match strings, worth a go!
@michaelpetty773 күн бұрын
What’s the address for the Nashville shop? Can’t find it on the website.
@TheJakeOFCourse5 күн бұрын
Only 2.5 FPS over stock strings Doesn't seem worth the extra $50 vs having a set made by a custom builder IMO.
@Cparchery...5 күн бұрын
I've seen better results than that with unbound strings bloodline fibers seem to be a tighter string material
@jesusisalive32275 күн бұрын
They also said different bows would have different results.
@WayneStevenson-y6e4 күн бұрын
Def NOT worth 50$
@charlesvinch5954 күн бұрын
😂I own a Lift now after a Bowtech SR350 but the Bowtech system is soooo much easier to change out a strings and adjust draw and weight in my opinion.
@SW737Flyer4 күн бұрын
I appreciate string makers improving the construction and materials they use and anytime you get more speed with all else being equal, that's a very positive thing. But.... getting 2-3 fps spending the extra money AND losing the option to customize my string and cable colors, just isn't worth it for me. MFJJ I bought a set of Flo Orange Gas bowstrings from you for my Mathews V3X and I am very happy with the improvement (from factory Zebra strings) in performance and the looks are killer. I'll stick with the ability to customize my string and cable sets based on color and accept speed being the same while saving the $50.
@Angel.Custodio4 күн бұрын
I wonder if it just adjust the letoff weight to get the incremental speed increase.
@joshsmith36504 күн бұрын
I wonder if different weight arrows show the same speed increase or if it is a larger variable
@loki82844 күн бұрын
Was there a difference in holding weight? The Lancaster Archery video showed an increase in holding weight and PJ didn't notice.
@lawrencematsumoto2 күн бұрын
What release are you using?
@Muskrat785 күн бұрын
Does the string react a bit different than stock? Like more shock or vibration any other cons vs pros
@Cparchery...5 күн бұрын
I did testing on unbound archery strings and gained 5fps on a few different bows and that was with the bows set at the same draw weight and draw length im wondering what the difference would be between gas cheaper strings and these
@alexjunck41925 күн бұрын
My buddy makes those great strings
@dougbarabe78614 күн бұрын
I bought my first bow ,,, brand new " for 150 ,, " 8 dollar 5 pin sight , Jennings Gail Force " witih a 65% let off ,,now and it did the job for many years ,,, first 300 with it as well ,, boy o boy does that tell you just how much times have changed and not to mention how old I am ,,,, I wish I still had that bow ,,,,, Now I shoot a Mathews and they shoot great ,, all of them ,,,, love your videos ,,, keep em up ,,,
@hhcustommuskiebaits58265 күн бұрын
MFJJ do you guys still offer sending your bow in for your string replacement an tune? I sent a email never heard back
@justinlee26424 күн бұрын
That's some crappy customer service 😮
@Muskrat784 күн бұрын
Can you do a noise comparison from Stock to Hot?
@tjrou20054 күн бұрын
I'm not nocking GAS in any way because they are amazing people and they are an amazing company. That said every aftermarket set of strings I've ever swapped to was 5-7 FPS faster, they also usually pull 3-5lb heavier. I'd like to see these strings with 100 or so shots on them compared to other well known aftermarket string brands like Rogue, ABB, twisted X, etc. Gas sounds like the first ones to advertise this, even though its common.
@tjrou20054 күн бұрын
I do like that they have tested speed nocks and have optimized them for different bows. The 4 center serving size options are nice as well, with such a wide variety of lighted nock fits out there, that may be worth the extra $50 alone.
@cseckel624 күн бұрын
if i learned ONE thing , its every chronograph is broken . never seen matching ones. do you have to Wax these strings ? ill take no wax over 2-3fps.
@retardmaskreviews4 күн бұрын
is Nashville north archer open?
@jaxteti4 күн бұрын
So, if I need new strings, my are bad. With that my bow is probably out of specs. How would I know if I got the 5 fps. 2.5 isn’t worth the extra cost.
@nicfield68954 күн бұрын
I'll probably get them.
@beaubellamy29994 күн бұрын
I think the practical answer is that if you need new strings and you’re willing to pay more for performance than it’s worth a purchase. If not, it’s not.
@donthornton75285 күн бұрын
I think the durability is just as important as the speed I guess we'll see down the road
@tylerlee53495 күн бұрын
They got 3.5 on Lancaster archery channel. Also, changed my strings on my Elite Omnia. Specs back exactly the same and everything seems the same except my let-off. It’s set at max 90% but now only letting off 77-78%. Please help Josh!!(or anyone who has an idea)
@DanielMcleod-z1q4 күн бұрын
This is what u was just saying. Setting to the same specs will NEVER give you identical numbers . You can twist your cables a couple twists and still keep your same measurements. 2-4 twists in cables isn't going to change ATA , and brace height enough if any on most bows.
@JoeDenton-e3y4 күн бұрын
Have your ever tried a set of Joeys String to compare speed. Local archery shop sells them and they seam to be a top notch string.
@travisalderete53864 күн бұрын
Not sure it offers as advertised. A great set of preferred strings tuned would offer just as much. In a perfect scenario and I am sure they tested it multiple times but does the promise meet the price hike? A lot of string builders out there and this would be at the top end for strings that so far have not tested well. Would definitely be curious to see more string comparisons tested the same. My guess is they will all gain a little with proper tune and setup, these just do not seem justified as a speed string for the cost.
@ericnewman9714 күн бұрын
The only way to increase the output of a bow if all other factors are equal is to increase stored energy or change the draw curve. (inturn change the stored energy location. Front or back) If you truly want to test, you need to draw a curve and see if the new strings are making the change. Im betting it's changing the draw curve and then increasing stored energy. If you were to put it back to the exact set point, you won't see an increase. if so, then it will be strictly the weight of the string. Would like to see you do a stored energy calculation. also, put the monkey tails back on, and your gain won't be there. The average fps lost with monkey tails is 3 fps.
@slabuda19705 күн бұрын
Curious to see how stable they are compared to mathews match strings. A couple hundred shots in and i need to rotate peep every shot.
@cjswhitebo18825 күн бұрын
Every string is good compared to the match strings
@brockpeck70735 күн бұрын
Take your bow to the shop. Have them put a twist in the string to get it straight again
@slabuda19705 күн бұрын
@brockpeck7073 that's the plan now that I've shot a bunch. If I had the SAS I'd add half a turn myself.
@slabuda19705 күн бұрын
@@cjswhitebo1882they are certainly better than zebra. I'll see how they are mid summer prior to elk season before I get new strings.
@brockpeck70734 күн бұрын
@@slabuda1970 yeah that would work! I always forget Mathews has the sas system
@bearinthewoods35 күн бұрын
I bet he didnt deduct points for that bow being a pain in the ass to re string
@jesusisalive32275 күн бұрын
It would only take a couple tweeks to make it a ton easier to change those strings.
@chrisfaulkner21605 күн бұрын
That would keep me from buying it, looks like a pain in the ass to me.
@WayneStevenson-y6e4 күн бұрын
What’s clever about putting side pressure and stressing it in a way that’s not normal?
@jesusisalive32274 күн бұрын
@WayneStevenson-y6e What? One simple change to the yoke, and you could change strings without taking the cams off. It would function exactly the same.
@davefisher51964 күн бұрын
My 50lb bow came with strings for an 80lb bow. I am sure if I had strings made for my specific weight the bow would be faster
@rustybailiff79044 күн бұрын
Wher is the phone number for the new bow shop?
@mattsoutdoors77573 күн бұрын
I think it's anouther set of strings. Every string manufacturer have gone up in price. I still like the BCY strings. 150 bucks now and I allways Chang my strings after season so I can break them in during the summer months. And then broadhead tune in August. I allway put my bow so it shoots 290fps and that is my sweet spot for my arrows with broadheads. So these gas string is not worth it for me. If I can get 2 years out of them without them looking like they are used and holds up for 2 years. I would say yes worth it. But speed not needing that. Just need 290fps that's it. I'll just flip my mod and put it to 70lbs and I'll be at 315-320fps with a 444grn arrow.
@CaseySorensen4 күн бұрын
You should do it again with a 500 grain arrow so those of us with heavier arrows can get an idea of the speed increase.
@josephbucci4845 күн бұрын
Gawd no. Even if it’s 5 FPS what’s the trade off on durability and staying in tune? The new Mathews strings are pretty good.
@darrenmorris63713 күн бұрын
The in the beginning MFJJ would say, save your money, but the NEW SPONSORED MFJJ, says spend your money 🎉
@raylaclair51385 күн бұрын
I will get them soon 😅
@steammaker484 күн бұрын
I'm guessing its just weight of the new string material? Also no monkey tails on the Gas strings
@colerichardson74354 күн бұрын
ABB strings or GAS strings?
@archerash66954 күн бұрын
Bear Compound vs GAS strings 😂.. youll see a difference for sure. Bear strings are brutal
@jasonard72275 күн бұрын
they are not 150-160 not from JBK bowstrings 120 for a 5 piece set best strings out there
@Mwblodgett895 күн бұрын
The only pro shop in my area is a Mathew’s hate zone. In Wisconsin it’s crazy. So I refuse to give them my money.
@robertlocke77115 күн бұрын
It amazes me the length and cost people will put into. A 2% increase as is that amount to anything in the real world.
@thistledewoutdoors33314 күн бұрын
Bought new top shelf 60X strings for my RPM360 years ago and the cable loop broke after a few minutes of the bow being relaxed....... Destroyed & 60X wouldn't honor it & quit answering my calls..... Now I'm always skeptical
@mattthadd46635 күн бұрын
No one complains about buying ABB strings. Why would they compare about Gas Strings?
@wayneswendsen83104 күн бұрын
25% more for 3fps. Not going out of my way to get them. Put the extra $50 into better quality arrows. That can make a difference
@josephfolsom20305 күн бұрын
Absolutely not worth the extra $50. I would like to see a heads up top of the line ABB strings comparison to top of the line GAS strings ( not the ones utilized in this video). I have used top tier ABB’s for years and have been pleased with their performance.
@kylehouser91764 күн бұрын
For 3 fps I would just twist the cables to get the extra fps an save $200
@BowDisciples4 күн бұрын
My guy 🫡
@houghtonic19754 күн бұрын
Strings would have to be very light to give 5fps
@chadpearson85974 күн бұрын
I wonder what it would be if you removed the monkeytails... I bet it would gain 1 fps on stocks..
@RyanBenitz-yq9ln5 күн бұрын
Isn't stock Match $200! I just ran 3500 through a white stock set of match, serving were still good, re-tuned 3 times. Just order the GAS SYSTEM X on my 33 lift. ... I shoot 75# 29 dl, 340 Easton 5.0, Bohning alpha vanes, cut 27.5, 15%foc, total weight 377, should be under spined but these shoot bullet holes. Speed .. 325.....give me 328... Lets f'n go..
@justinlee26424 күн бұрын
Where are we going? I'm confused 🙄
@richardoglesby77645 күн бұрын
yes 5
@MikeyWoomer4 күн бұрын
Good set of strings is hard to beat. I'll save my money and buy from a local string builder.
@jasonwatson26795 күн бұрын
Yes I bet they switched from 452x to x99
@Funny-bf8xf5 күн бұрын
i think it's FM, myself
@loserjw915 күн бұрын
Can get better strings from different builders for less. Fury string material no longer available but usually increased speeds, and Mercury material increased speed and was very soft shooting. Heard they have Mercury 2 material now. Id get that befote the overpriced Gas. Not a fan.
@Kodyanderson4024 күн бұрын
I just don’t understand how companies will redesign an entire cam system just to achieve the same thing strings will do.
@jonathanharpe43335 күн бұрын
I’m getting them. There is no reason not to. The price is the price. Peep Sights are 20 Dollars. I think that’s ridiculous. If those are marked up everything else will be as well
@autoaddict71625 күн бұрын
I feel like it’ll be close
@Jf6812-e4j5 күн бұрын
Funny they say the average is 5fps but I’ve yet to see a video where a bow gained 5fps. Average is probably more like 2-3fps.
@shaneg85314 күн бұрын
A match stringset with monkey tails is just shy of a few fps of the 200.00 systm x.. take the monkey tails off the match and I'd bet their the same. Any well built custom string will get you a fps gain. Strand count, serving size, amount of serving will affect all this. Not a game changer
@nativehuntinggear54914 күн бұрын
2 TO 5 FPS isn't going to be any advantage to anyone seeing most average people dont even have their bows on full poundage , its good marketing for sure , GAS are good strings .
@Bluesplayer7894 күн бұрын
I always string my guitars with GAS, makes me play 5% faster.
@chriskotaska81245 күн бұрын
That’s kind of joke. It was a little faster than stock on that one bow. Is it faster than anyone else’s cable set? Would it still be faster on another lift? They want us to believe the gains are significant enough to spend more, forgo any custom colors and believe it’s the greatest thing since slice bread. Pass…
@whitetailsup7604 күн бұрын
U didn’t put the monkey tails back on 😊
@Known2Bintense4 күн бұрын
They slowed my bow down when I removed them from my lift
@davidfargen21672 күн бұрын
I think it will get 5
@tylerwestall78755 күн бұрын
I knew it wouldn’t get 5fps because of it did they’d of said 8fps 😂