PoE 3.21 (Crucible) - 150m Dps Lightning Golem Ascendant vs Uber Bosses & The Feared (~90%)

[@sapheryPoE]

I've been asked about the viability of the Flame Golem and I wanted to share my answer here so everyone can see it. All three abilities are spells and deal the same type of dmg which makes finding a useful combination of support gems easier. However all of the abilities are broken in their own way: 1) Immolate has terrible range, bad dmg and an 89% less cast speed mod 2) Flame Arc has bad range, mediocre dmg and a 2sec cd 3) Magma Ball has bad dmg and a 6sec cd. Scaling the last 2 abilities to acceptable levels of dmg in an high budget setup requires 500% and 1500% of cd recovery respectively (which is unfeasible) whereas Immolate can't be properly scaled at all. Even if you had access to enough cd recovery to make ability 2&3 work your dps would still drop to nothing everytime the golem uses Immolate. You can make a low investment Elementalist/Necromancer/Ascendant build work for maps and pinnacle bosses but that's as far as I would take it. Tl;dr I currently don't recommend people try out the Flame Golem as main dmg minions.

[@lillenisy3622]

wow nice thanks!

[@gehirndoper]

Interesting. Grabbing Necro and Elementalist really enables this build. Why do you go Deadeye, though? 8% action speed and some mark effect seems weak compared to what other ascendencies bring. Champion gives more DPS from the 15% aura effect alone, and has inc. damage taken on taunt (from any of your hits, i. e. woc or tempest shield), on top of the defensive scaling.

[@sapheryPoE]

I've compared all ascendancies for dmg and Deadeye outperforms all of them including Champion, even when you taunt the enemy (which isn't a good thing anyway). Did you check your theory using my PoB? Because I've literally no idea what basis you've used to come to your conclusion.

[@gehirndoper]

@@sapheryPoE I checked with PoB (or at least tried, to, as I'm not too familiar in using it with minions). Importing the MinMax PoB, just mousing over champion shows Minion: +12.2% hit DPS, which should be more than 8% action speed plus sniper's mark effect. However the Player: full DPS number only shows +6.2%, which I don't understand. When importing the endgame PoB I can't get it to show the minion dps at all.

[@gehirndoper]

Doing some napkin math, it seems due to your high total aura effect you get diminishing returns from adding another 15%. This should translate to 2-2.5% more damage per aura, so maybe 7% more damage total. Not sure where the 12% comes from.

[@sapheryPoE]

@@gehirndoper It should already show the DPS because that's how I configured the PoB. I've reuploaded the PoBs just in case and you should be able to see the DPS right away. If that doesn't help try checking for upgrades pls.

[@gehirndoper]

@@sapheryPoE If I remove the other minions from Full DPS, it only shows one DPS number and not a separate "Minion Hit DPS", which makes it clear that Deadeye is best (and it makes yourself faster, too).

[@CynterDOW]

This looks very cool, is it a mirror tier build ?

[@sapheryPoE]

Yeah. The main issue is the weapon which cost around 200 div to make but I've made medium and high budget versions that don't utilize a weapon like that. Build guide featuring all versions should drop soon.

[@IllNacs]

i dont know if iv ever used a golem in a link before. deff not a 6link

[@sapheryPoE]

The stone, lightning and carrion golem are all viable in 3.21. I've got two build guides for different Carrion Golem builds and will upload a build guide for the Lightning Golem soon.

[@hkgaming2842]

​@@sapheryPoEwhat do you feel about flame golems?

[@sapheryPoE]

​@@hkgaming2842 I tried to explain it in detail in a general comment and pinned that one for better visibility.