PoE 3.23 - Magic Find Setups Got Better!

[@superking___]

You've been doing a great job with the videos lately and I always value your builds as top tier.

[@samgreen8582]

Ya, out of four builds his has gotten me to my highest, level 97, but I'm new lol...

[@CrouchingTuna]

Thank you so much, comments like these really help I appreciate it!

[@drg_poe]

@@samgreen8582 97 as a new player is insane, gj keep it going

[@luismiguelcostaperestrelo1164]

Hey Tuna, great video Do you think you could make a guide for transitioning from early league LA into its many options? Namely 1 omni la 2 MF la 3 omni TS 4 phys convert TF 5 MF versions of the builds I think a lot of people would benefit from having some sort of roadmap from league start LA all the way to TS

[@ariashark]

this guy basically has all of that @mikoshomikoshi his vids are so good

[@ariashark]

www.youtube.com/@mikoshomikoshi

[@Mstrp2ez]

The quality of your videos have been steadily going up for some time now Tuna. I'm impressed!

[@KnSchmidt89]

I agree. Both quality of the content and editing are better than ever. Keep to good work Tuna

[@eisbaerenhasenzahn]

I'm a total degenerate MFer myself. This league, however, I'll try magic finding for the first time.

[@CrouchingTuna]

LOL

[@CageTheKangaroo]

Based

[@floodo1]

kneel

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

Ew

[@hypahypa]

Also consider that you can scale quality of a gem (tornado shot for example) with the enhance support and the Dialla's Malefaction robe for crazy amount of secondary projectiles

[@Elyuwu_]

I love these short, powerpoint style breakdowns of concepts, not full builds, but "modules" of builds, etc. Easy to watch + you explain things well for the average player

[@garryoldman5319]

bro, how is Micro-Distillery belt is good? it gives you 3.6 quantity and 30 rarity it is like worse than cheapest possible MF setup (corrupted bisco or blazon for rarity, which will give you double or almost triple quant and same rarity + rampage), it is like very bad, you can use tinctures without it, the only way u want use it - you want rare belt for your build and want to craft something there, which is ultra-niche thing and not new mf-meta btw i forgot to count, that without that belt - you can move tincture to also buff your gold flask, which will make it even worse and more pointless....

[@karlkoziks1432]

btw the crit multi is up to 98% with quality, definetly a sick base for sure. stat stacker`s will love this base aswell. 138flat int +28%int and potencialy 2% damage per 15int (if it will scale it from 1%) sounds crazy, only saving grace is that you cant fracture it.

[@MainOffenderKZ]

for simplex amulet, once u have 2 suffix: suffix cannot be changed, veiled chaos. theres some very good ones like: 120life+10mana regen or 50% proj speed + 40% proj dmg, or 120% dmg while leeching

[@KAJYT6969]

do note that you can only have one prefix, so once you put on suffix cannot be changed, then veil chaos, you have a 50/50 to add a mod after turning the suffix cannot be changed into a veiled mod, and then you're stuck with a veiled suffix.

[@Nallez3]

@@KAJYT6969 Suffix cannot be changed is a prefix. If you have 2 suffixes and craft Suffix Lock and use Veiled Chaos, it will 100% of the time add a veiled prefix modifier.

[@KAJYT6969]

No dude.... this is simple to understand. 3 suffixes are still on Simplex amulets, so when you have 2 suffixes like you said, then you put on suffix cannot be changed, which is a prefix, you still have an empty suffix which CAN BE ADDED as a veiled suffix. suffix cannot be changed doesn't prevent you from adding suffixes, just removing them. You have to have 3 suffixes to do this method of crafting that you and OP are talking about. @@Nallez3

[@hoozimajiget]

I think its notable that t1 shaper quant needs an ilvl 85 amulet. Area level 83 blueprint heist curio rewards are randomly ilvl 84-86 so you need to pay attention to item level if you buy one. Or just roll a desirable influenced mod on the simplex amulet (redeemer t1 phys as extra cold, mana reservation efficiency both require ilvl 75 for example) and then awaken t1 quant onto it.

[@Lyonsyn]

As far as I know, that's how it has to be done anyway since there's no way to add shaper influence to an item like there is with conqueror orbs

[@xyzqsrbo]

​@@Lyonsyn Also I think you can just aug influence in harvest.

[@KAJYT6969]

aug influence just adds a random influenced mod on an already influenced base@@xyzqsrbo

[@Kostchei]

I can already feel the pain half an hour into crafting the micro belt

[@ajhylton]

Shoutout to Tuna and fubgun for the GG mf strats!

[@Nallez3]

When you craft on Simplex with chaos orb or harvest reforges or essences. The item will always have 3 mods (full). So you'll have to annul away the prefix if you get the other 2 suffixes you want.

[@semenavdeev8358]

love this guy! Always in a good mood and shies with energy , thanks mate!

[@MiniPiez]

Thank you, very good video, very informative.

[@scandalfop2093]

Duuuude, 40 quant and 164 crit multi? I need one of those!!

[@pavelsusloparov9974]

Already doubled unless you trolling

[@TheEternalVortex42]

You forgot to double it. It's actually 80 quant and 328 crit multi

[@YrCleddyf]

Primalist also increases the Yellow wisps [Currency wisps] you find and I can see people stacking AoE with shouts and MF gear to run around cleared maps to get even more loot EDIT: PoE has swapped the wisps between Primalist and Maji [I didn't notice the change in the vid]

[@zewro4438]

shout rolls loot with 0 mf

[@psnsnowmanz]

@@zewro4438but at player 8 loot tables

[@YrCleddyf]

@@zewro4438 Fair enough, havent looked that much into it to be honest Still more loot regardless and I can see people making 2nd characters just for the purpose of gaining more loot from mobs similar to ghost busting and mf culling

[@DaveedRL]

No, Primal Wisps give mobs item rarity, not currency. Warden of Maji gives you more currency wisps.

[@YrCleddyf]

@@DaveedRL They bloody changed it, it was Primalist in the trailer that increased currency wisps and Maji gave the rarity >:(

[@LokitheHuman]

Ty tooner. Im def starting deadeye again. But its tricky to start MF, imo. I want to do it but im unsure when to transition to it

[@ThePhillShow]

I'm looking to league start MF Corrupting Cry champion. It's working well without any tattoos in my casual testing in ToTA right now. Feels good with a good amount of MF gear so far, could be tankier but I think the extra ascendencies will help with that. Excited to try it!

[@tacticaldot4396]

Tuna smiling and shining :D Man these patchnotes make me happy aswell. Its gonna be a banger of a league

[@AGMI9]

cant wait man, xmas coming early

[@joelcuerrier4833]

I would most definitely go for a yolo veiled chaos on the prefix. If you get life, that's generally a significant source of mana regen on top. If you don't, you probably get one mod that make sense for you and will be doubled... like proj speed, aoe are insane prefixes. If you feel lucky, you can always click reforge life too and try to get 178 life amulet. Which is also sort of cute on a MF build that usually is starved of flat life rolls. Other alternatives for giga damage is reforge influence the prefix for up to 30% phys as extra cold/light. Which is ridiculous! Alternative, a nice clean 14% generic ele pen which would be best for tri-ele bow builds. Of course, bench is the safe way, but if the base end up costing 30d due to massive demand (driven by videos like THIS). You may want to push your craft further than 2 suffixes. I figure those amulets will be so generically good that even if you fail your prefix, you can sell it at a profit to someone else for whom it is the best prefix.

[@floodo1]

considering the cost to roll the suffixes, I’d want to gamba on rolling a good prefix … worth a try or two before settling on crafted after bad rng

[@joelcuerrier4833]

@@floodo1 Exactly and if u go for veiled chaos, you cannot lose. If you have an amulet with 20 quant and 80 crit multi, this is giga generic for almost any build. So if you hit something you don't want, it likely will sell. It's a very simple craft, but some may prefer buying what they need. I'm sure tons of people will go for those exact suffixes. Also while rolling on a Shaper amulet, you'd never want to roll over mana efficiency. So you'd sell that as a fail too if you only want quant. You wouldn't just roll until quant and nothing else. Maybe you'd also stop at 20% cast speed, that is another massive damage mod. I guess it depend cost of the base, but I'd keep a few outcomes to recoup my cost.

[@autoglobus]

Can we get the simplex amulet at ilvl 85 from heist? We need ilvl 85 for T1 quant mod.

[@Wlrtuoz]

What about Enhance support ? will it be good with tornado shot for additional secondary projectile ? And what about overall gem quality stacking ? ;) Maybe Ashes of the stars is actually worth more now despite the nerf ?

[@eddiechen1696]

Enhance is would be too great of a dmg loss. Same goes for using ashes over any other conventional dmg or mf amulet.

[@mroku6630]

remember thats its the secondary projectile, you arent adding shotgunning to the skill, you are just giving a bit more chance that your arrows hit the target, 1 or 2 is just enough

[@CrouchingTuna]

There are so many great supports for tornado shot it probably won't be worth it but there's always ashes and dialla's to consider

[@Sidnv]

I'm theorycrafting an MF Poison TS/Artillery Ballista PF for SSF. There's a tincture that gives all damage can poison and using a Microdistillery belt with Quicksilver, Silver, Topaz, Divination Distillate, Tincture seems pretty good. Artillery Ballista also got +1 arrow on quality, so even though the build lost 25% more damage from Crucible, it should be pretty strong still, since it easily hit dot cap even in SSF. I'll probably league start LA Deadeye and then swap over once I have the items needed. It should be able to function as both an MF character and an Uber boss killer for uber drops.

[@m01t4123]

can roll the belt to have 18% flask effect for more IIR and IIQ and damage to

[@serechkissire1381]

Do you plan to make part of the lightning arrow/tornado shot build have specs for if you want to do MF?

[@DamonPOE]

You mentioned someone at the beginning regarding the SImplex Amulet i would love to know who that was since i couldnt really understand/figure out the name

[@Mutiny960]

DAMN You're on top of this. Coming back from a 5 year break and JUST WATCHED your Bow vid, now this is uploaded. You're literally the only one out right now talking about tech and not Adding a New Screenshot to a crap vid made 6 months ago. Good Job.

[@Seitan-enjoyer]

Cool tech, let's find all the magics! 😎

[@watermelon58]

What about the traitor do tinctures skip those too because then you might be able to run less duration extra effect flasks aswell

[@Roszesz]

“life of course is something that magic finders are missing” HAHAHahaHA :)

[@MrPiczek]

I was magic finding last league and also wanted to go this league. I have started LA but moved to CA which gave me easier clear and less deaths

[@tylerworrell7866]

I’m running Tornado Shot from level 28 to Day 89. Lock me in that Divine-printing prison, baby!

[@Dr3adLord1]

great content, my favorite PoE creator

[@floodo1]

If MF is not high investment I’m in. One of my fav times was MFing with Poison Sextant and BV in yellow maps

[@luc_xott]

This is gonna be a crazy league, can' wait!

[@rintsukin]

Another important thing to remember, +1 to ------ skill gems didn't work on simplex before because it was 25% and it was rounded down to 1, but with 100% increase, it will give +2 to all skill gems, which is insane worth!

[@CrouchingTuna]

You can also guarantee +2 fire/Phys etc with cannot roll attack mods, but it could remove a wanted suffix

[@stonefolk2778]

I have no idea about half of the stuff you are talking about but cool vid bro

[@BluemakerSc2]

Hmm, this seems pretty good I was thinking last league that I want to go for MF again after not playing it for 2-3 years also burial chamber's map is back maybe good for headhunter cards again. Are you going to make a guide for ts MF before league start ?

[@TenaciousDealer]

Planning on making a CA MF character first this league looking really nice so far

[@egyptianjoe69]

my most played league was scourge doing MF in tower map, farmed 2 headhunters that league overall. my plan at league start is to go lightning arrow and MF. i also want to use bubonic trail with the new ascendency since you can get a 2 abyssal socket bubonic and use a unique jewel to get reservation efficiancy and a magic jewel to get movement speed then leave the 2 normal sockets empty and use the new ascendancy that give you 30% movement speed if you have no gems in your boots so this way you just give up 2 gems but get Reservation efficiancy and between 54-62% movement speed. this is till i can get good charms and headhunter and all that and switch to spiritualist. i think everyone in the community is looking at bubonic trail now because of Ashes nerf and i feel like it will be expensive af so i am thinking of farming abyss but not 100% sure because mf might be great for the abyss boss fights.

[@MrPiczek]

Now we go cemetary, dunes and crimson

[@TheEternalVortex42]

2 socket bubonic trail is going to be 40 divs lol it's fairly rare to drop

[@MrPiczek]

LA was good Dunes magic find at start with legion, but for proper magic find I found CA better at league start

[@CrouchingTuna]

Sounds like a good plan, good luck!

[@Liratan]

You mean go to cemetery to find more unions for the higher GCP demand😊

[@psychobear10]

Ive never magic find before but this league i might

[@Sheki94]

What about Quali on amulett? Even better then

[@whydidyoutubeaddthis]

Wasn't it secondary projectiles only for ts?

[@SyteU]

Shoutout to Fubgun!

[@TheEternalVortex42]

Plus you can hork now for MOAR LOOT ;). Hopefully quant affects those drops

[@ggbatman1981]

CANT WAIT BABY!!!

[@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814]

Remember critical quality on amulet for +98%

[@subtlefps]

You can basically make a legacy ashes with 20% mana reservation efficiency and +2 all skill gems. Wont' be an easy craft though. If somehow bases are cheap you could just alt spam for +1 and then redeemer slam and repeat until crafted, but thats only if basses are cheap and i doubt they will be.

[@MandruDuce]

you chaos spam not alt spam. It has -2 prefix -1 suffix and magic items only have one prefix one suffix. Which puts them at -1 prefix 0 suffix. Simplex amulets can't be magic. So chaos orb or alc/binding/chance + scour.

[@QwalityGaming]

Hi tuna! I world love to play the poison LS MF version again. I didn't see they removed the dagger base you crafted on from heist and pathfinder with the new flask buff effect should make it even stronger or am I wrong? LS gem changed to +1 proj instead but that's about it?

[@greenonions1808]

Does anyone know if magic find works on minions with or without gravebind?

[@NippyKindLangur234]

Great deepdive! For those of us who havent run MF/IIQ before, what types of atlas content benefit the most from it??

[@MrPiczek]

Small nodes beyond and legion at start

[@MrPiczek]

Check exiled cat or fubgun for more info

[@NippyKindLangur234]

@@MrPiczek I thought iiq and iir don't affect legion rewards??

[@NippyKindLangur234]

@@MrPiczek Ty fellow nerd

[@linemat7887]

@@NippyKindLangur234 it doesn't, however legion has very juicy rare mobs

[@jiri7449]

Hi, are you planning to remake la starter video optimized for 3.23?

[@metachigx]

thumbnail king 👑

[@anduandu2880]

I’m between CF Champ or Poison Pathfinder as my MF-er… Decisions decisions

[@juedcago]

what do you think about CF champ MF?

[@MedAmineMatmati]

what would make this better is the grove spawning at the start like deli mirror

[@frandas]

Afaik it is always spawning at the start (if you are talking about the new mechanic area called Wildwood and not Harvest )

[@raphael.jarbas]

I was thinking, about the league mechanic and it seens that the biggest the rarity of the monster more chance it will be affected by multiple buffs, in that case will Rogue exiles be good for magic find? They are unique monster if they get the Currency buff they might be nice, since u can make them alway possessed (atlas passive)

[@MrPiczek]

Beyond legion is the way

[@kurtsaidwhat]

I mean you can go tincture or you can go for warcries that give more loot lol

[@LightOfSkyFalling]

Never tried MF, i play on console btw. Is it better to do it with the duelist or ranger?

[@THEF4LLOFM4N]

How does it all work now after the magic find nerfs?

[@CrouchingTuna]

@@THEF4LLOFM4N it doesn't lol

[@stanlypokrowsky3085]

Hi! Sorry for question. You have guide for LA on maxroll website and I want know this guide with node tree still actual for 3.23 or you will change any nodes? Thank you. Sorry for bad english

[@CrouchingTuna]

The guide will be updated for 3.23 very soon! And also a new video soon.

[@gandalffury127]

A question, will Natures concoction from the new ascendancy apply to attacks like Tornado Shot/Kinetic Blast, Lightning arrow, etc? Are these considered weapon attacks?

[@MrShadowRaiden]

yes they are weapon attacks

[@tiltedsanta4099]

how would you go about getting the simplex amulet with only shaper influence or can it come like that is heist?

[@common_raccoon]

Add any influence with an orb, then harvest reforge untill you get shaper.

[@ehha21]

essence stonkz

[@ejun251]

Crit catalyst on simplex amulet with crit multi essence will be insane. You can use catalysts on it, right?

[@KAJYT6969]

of course

[@cybalanced4108]

2:30 + unstable catalyst quality i guess?

[@JohanCardel]

Imagining corrupting it, with no change, and applying the new catalyst so you could get what was it, 80% quality crit. or life etc. Fun interaction, I imagine they will be expensive.

[@seventinnine7826]

Tainted catalyst still only gives up to 20% quality

[@JohanCardel]

@@seventinnine7826 Oh sorry, that was the new odd ring they added, that had some insane quality mod. It is meant to be used with the new catalyst, of course.

[@common_raccoon]

Played solo MF TS Deadye this league, died ~3.6k times. While these changes seem dope, I need a league to recover...with icicle mines 😊

[@Lavi3250]

For someone who is going to have limited play time do you still recommend mf build?

[@madhatten5123]

I have avoided MF even after the quant nerf from other league mechanics but I am going to the dark side this league. I miss running juiced maps and actually getting rewarded for it so its time

[@Janus54]

How do you think your la deadeye will fare against ultimatum in the mid game?

[@l.a.w.5738]

insta rip on higher tiers

[@yungchrist9072]

I wanna start at death aura with mf in middle game setup, are these Rinctures gonna work with that? And what do u think about start on this build?

[@CrouchingTuna]

Tinctures will only apply to weapon attack/hits unfortunately. I much prefer lightning arrow as a starter as I feel like deaths oath is lacking a lot of damage and it's main upside is that you don't have to 6l but we have a lot of "cheap" 6l available at league start. It all depends on what you want to do though, I think lightning arrow and toxic rain would feel much smoother early though.

[@yungchrist9072]

That's why with death aura i will use toxic rain for mapping and caustic arrow for solo target + plague bearer

[@Hlidskialf]

This league I’m going full TS MF farmer gigavirgin and ggs

[@Zaygone]

Im thiniing we will see +4 level amulets from this

[@khroomlet8821]

Can you league start an MF build? I've played a lot of PoE, but never tried solo MF and I'm curious.

[@svindlerr]

from what ive gathered, no

[@yunusdts]

i am also planning mf this league

[@Takegoodcare84]

U made a thought mistake there or it was my bad luck but as far as I know U will never get only 2 means 1 pre with only 1 suffix mods. U will always get 4 to 5 or 6 mods with an essence on an item. I also really even tried this out very hard, over 300 essences I think this league and always had full mods on the simplex. So u need to annull the unwanted mod. And to hit that is very rare. I didn't get it with 4 mods to annull perfectly and stayed with tier 1 quant mod and 2 good 1 tier mods and the last was trash but this amulet was damn expensive and I tried to annull the 4 th bad or unwanted mod a few times but failed. Then u always need to get back your tier 1 wanted mods so I stayed with 3 tier 1 n 1 Trash. Is a very good amulet. :)

[@ethanlarge3572]

They changed simplex to have one prefix and two suffixes this league.

[@Takegoodcare84]

@@ethanlarge3572 yea ok but u will get all these mods be filled with an essence and need to anull the unwanted or u get only 3 tier 1 mods that u wanted or is there a mistake in my thoughts?

[@abigchair]

82?!? when you double that is 164!!

[@molnar2296]

Are mf builds super high budget? Can I league start one and farm like tier 1-7 ? Or how does that work on the cheap end?

[@alex7435]

I think you can just league start LA/TS and then you can slowly convert parts of your gear to MF/Damage as you get better and better gear

[@weqesaewqe1552]

check fubgun for CA mf start

[@czarweer]

its a flask SLOT not a missing flask

[@Wowaniac]

20% * 100% is 2%. You would be better off with a Briscoe amulet wouldn't you? Or am I missing something with the interaction? Like is the moddifer of 100% with 20% additive and not multiplicative

[@CrouchingTuna]

Quantity is additive. So if you have 20% quant you are essentially receiving 1.2 drops instead of 1. However it had diminishing returns, but is multiplicative with map and monster quantity.

[@hopibobi]

I go MF for the first time. :)

[@Saki630]

give us +1 proj + 2 chain charm

[@Nopsososoos]

So, you run 2 people. One killer and one MF shout?

[@G00R00]

Ghosting nerfed tho :(

[@vivaldi1739]

+ 2 amu :O

[@Myque1981]

LOGIN

[@mtk2034]

Heist mafia again .....

[@Pipnotiq]

This Tobey Maguire lookin' MF in all his thumbnails. Jk, solid vid sir.

[@sierinlang]

Y’all think mb is dead this league?

[@memolee4951]

So economy done again huh ?

[@Samulisami]

Dink Donk

[@opilim1]

garf

[@JayIPA]

Can I use MF to find a girlfriend?

[@vorhandklaus]

only if you have friends, who play support. Alone you cant do shit > yellow maps

[@taylorgravely2004]

Skill issue, you absolutely can solo MF 😂

[@tonysharp8795]

I run T16s MFing in SSF. It is in fact a skill issue

[@vorhandklaus]

@@taylorgravely2004 playing gloves and boots with 20% quant is not what i ment with MFing. Bro i wanna see you clearing t16s with full quant solo in first week

[@linemat7887]

@@vorhandklaus dude duo mf is very inefficient(I was duo mfing 2 leagues). If you do double solo(and even not mf), you get way more rewards bcuz it's way faster. Going for full quant sacrificing damage as solo mf is stupid until high budget btw. you need at least 150d to do so and preferably an HH to carry your dmg. Nevertheless I see mf eficient either as a solo player or as a group of 5-6, that can juice very hard and ghostbust

[@taylorgravely2004]

@@vorhandklaus my ancestor character is happy_festivus go look for yourself

[@jinji3943]

ur thumbnails can pass on as an egirl