[PoE] Profit Crafting Guide

[@subtractem]

Crafting PoB: pobb.in/WvVo9dr-ht-o

[@thatguyb-rad8201]

I've been playing PoE since Piety was the end game boss and there was basically like 3 or 4 acts, and to this day I still cannot imagine myself ever using the phrase "only 45 exalts".

[@yosi1653]

Been playing since voll was the end game boss Theres absulotly no way to learn everything about this game This is why i love these long, detailed, educational videos.

[@bloggersniffle5358]

Yeah....this should have started out with a disclaimer about how much time you need to play to even have this as an option. I mean you have to start the league with like 10 hours straight of going hard to even hope to be in a position to do this stuff. Then you have to maintain a crazy pace that isn't compatible with a full-time job that isn't streaming and/or a family/social life. He's saying "just spend 10 minutes on the top 10 streams daily and look at other sources like reddit and poe.ninja." That's 2 hours of research daily. Just.....no.

[@popadopalis4480]

@@bloggersniffle5358 he did disclaim that this was advanced strategies and that new players should watch his beginner to advanced crafting guide first

[@Sordemith]

@@bloggersniffle5358 people who don't have lots of time to play simply can't do lots of things in the game. POE is actually kind of hard to really enjoy as simply a casual game.

[@optimchs1]

@@Sordemith you can enjoy poe 10 hours a league on ssf. What you can't do is go deep on end game content with only 10 hours in a league

[@soulrekx]

I just got back into PoE i got stuck on act 4 a few years ago and had no help and then i came back and most of the community is very welcoming

[@MatAndHisHat]

Last night I went to bed thinking about how maybe I should learn to craft better, and maybe profit from half-failed crafts. Waking up to this video notification is such a serendipitous surprise : )

[@gymlin123]

Nice video. I'm always trying to bring (profitcrafting) closer to people who are "afraid" of it or new and clueless.... In my opinion, the most important thing and by far biggest misconception regarding profitcrafting is, that you need to know EXACTLY how your final item with all 6 mods will and should look like (of course with variations, but they have to be planned ahead aswell). And that you want to figure out and structure in your head, how to get each mod onto another mod- step by step. This sounds very abstract to people because if you haven't gone through such a process before, you think of it as some insane wizard engeneering crazy strategie... but there are so many small little simple and easy copyable tricks and ways to deterministically craft one mod over another until you have a finished item. Many people will be surprised how easy crafting is in reality (like using the actual materials on an item).... it can be taught to monkeys. The important and "difficult" part is the the theoretical part before and figuring out each step. Edit: I never do exact profitability/cost analyzis beforehand. When the crafting cost are slightly covered by the minimum listed sellprice currently on trade, I'll do it. And 99% of the time with huge profit.

[@dungeonmaster7238]

Man, i just want to say thank you for all you have put out there for the community. As someone who's been playing for more than 3 years, im just now getting to the point where this is what interests me. Thank you for the content. DoE.

[@venntof.9095]

While this is true, I think there's one small overcomplication in it, that is the "look for new builds to emerge" part. Nothing wrong theoretically with it, but people who want to learn crafting are not even close to the level of game knowledge that is needed to prejudge meta-developments. So I would argue the best crafts for profit u could do is stuff that is tried and true and works always. A few examples: Shaper shields with dense fossils for High ES + Recover on hit, Stygian vises with life and res, high phys warstaves for cyclone, vermillion rings with pretty much high anything. Those crafts are far easier from a complexity level to get into as its mostly 1 fossil spamming, do all of them and u play on different markets and you can snowball the wins a lot faster and easier without the danger of falsely judging the next big thing.

[@2ndcitysaint52]

stygian vise are traps dude its the most saturated market in the game, great to craft for yourself but telling ppl to craft them for profit is terrible advice especially this league by week 3-4 theres literally hundreds if not more %life res stygian up they are a massive bait for profit crafting, unless you want to sit there for hours constantly having to undercut 50 ppl

[@trackts]

@@2ndcitysaint52 A good stygian vise with a handful of t1 mods always sell well. I think it is worth to craft it sporadicaly here and there for extra profit, but probrably not a good idea to craft a bunch of it at the same time.

[@gusaud2z]

too sad because my english is bad . i have to watch this video more than 5 times to understand 100% what you saying . thank you professor

[@grimmover]

8:40 this is true not only for crafting. Example, some leagues ago bleed builds using Haemophilia were really popular. The gloves with a decent corrupt were BIS. Regular gloves themselves costed like 1-5c. I started buying them in bulk and just vaaling them. If they bricked or nothing happened? Vendor. If you hit vulnerability? That was a 15 ex+ profit of of one vaal and 1-5c. So, even without crafting a lucky vaal for such builds would bring you immense profits. I made this way around 100 ex just from bulk buying/target farming those gloves and vaaling them.

[@popadopalis4480]

Thank you so much for this video. No other content creator is putting the effort into helping, motivating, and inspiring players to play the game with as many tools in their toolbelt as there exists in POE. I hope you keep presenting these types of ideas and look forward to more.

[@banzinarbanzinar5012]

I think this has been the most educational video on crafting that I've found. Full of so much USABLE information and advice. Also feels it will stay relevant bc of the conceptual approach. Thank you so much for your work, it has definitely improved my past few leagues. Can't wait to sell you some sweet stuff in 3.19

[@simple-human-being]

Genuinely appreciate this video, was expecting a step by step guide. But, was pleased to find an in depth overview that covered more than just the mechanics of crafting. Honestly the quality was more akin to my actual lectures at uni and I learnt a ton here. Thanks again! Subbed and excited to watch your content on Twitch as well

[@zacharydavis1659]

Your crafting videos have been fantastic. Clear and a good balance of high and detailed level to better understand crafting.

[@CameronLast]

huge amount of effort in this video, props!

[@MediousIvgorod]

so have wasted so much currency crafting your KB build and i got succumbed to the rage.... wasted even more since.... if only i have this video to tell me these non trivial stuff that really saved me from a mental breakdown..... but i have learned so much since..... you are the only creator that i have learned the most in the most casual.... thanks ^^ keep the video coming... really appreciate at ：）

[@Todiros]

This is a great video for someone like me who is interested in crafting but hasn't even got to Act 10 yet, and 10ex sounds insane! It would be really cool to see more of these crafting from scratch videos with you explaining your thought process.

[@lebromalaeb7621]

This was so helpful. You are really good in explaining; whether it was crafting or build creating. I hope you make more crafting videos so we can learn from more examples. Thank you for all the effort you put.

[@kushina6400]

You're great at explaining and very good examples! I watched your 2hr crafting vid and took notes like a freak lol but its helped me greatly! Thank you

[@blink2008]

love this guy one of the best POE KZbinrs and I love how he combines simple economics in POE trade haha

[@realmorgan]

Felt like I learned a little from harvest league, but this just opened up a whole new world. Great video!!!

[@HewManaty]

one of the highest quality poe content channels. thank you sir

[@AchedSphinx]

for some reason, i always thought profit crafting was getting profit off those big items to I never went in on it. sure I could reverse engineer how top crafts are done, but I figured you needed a ton of currency (which you do) until you made that big item to sell. turns out you sell a bunch of "good enough" until you hit that big item. pretty cool to know. i do craft a bit here and there for whatever character i'm playing. i used to craft double damage poison claws or getting a +3 bow. but thanks to this info I'll give profit crafting a good next league. thanks for the help and i hope the channel keeps growing, you produce good content.

[@trackts]

Great video. just a small correction - you don't need both eldritch influences to have a dominant one. If you have only one eldritch influence, it will be dominant regardless.

[@alexbenito1801]

I always wanted to be like, only crafting gaming, bcs I love craft things, but never got into it, now with this video I can start doing more stuff, ty a lot

[@bobafettuccine8002]

Love your vids. Thank you for your hard work!

[@5iveSecHero]

You have inspired me and I have started crafting some of my own gear ❤️

[@brianlarsen6242]

Thanks for the video, I am working up to learning this.

[@MrWowowowowo]

Extremely educational as always Subtractem. Thank you for your efforts with this community!

[@8odycount]

Cool. I think I am gonna try another 1000 alterations on the hunter unfluenced boots for tailwind and sell it for 1 ex. :D

[@sunnovah]

Lots of great info here! I have been sleeping on my fossils.

[@diegogarber1]

I loved it! I’ll tell you how it went next league:)

[@Noxxvideos]

I think the most impressive thing about Subtractem is that he always has perfectly ripe bananas in his gaming room.

[@d1jn]

Thank you, great guide!

[@michelkam8193]

To quote the great Einhar: "We are friends now!"

[@maxfahl]

You're awesome

[@ramazankaya9545]

This is my 2nd league and I really wanna learn crafting.

[@nathanielh.6711]

1. Play full party at the beggining of the season. 2. Aquire couple mirrors worth of profit. 3. Do meta crafting, sell byproducts in order to recoup some losses. 4. Eventually make mirror-tier item. Here is your avarage RMT provider "how-to-get rich" strat. And play at the very beginning of the season in order to profit the most.

[@metaslavegaming9075]

You can do it solo too, with party you have to split profit anyways.

[@nathanielh.6711]

@@metaslavegaming9075 solo is considerably worse. You don't have ability to do all content(party composition and character combos) You don't have extra item quantity (that is the most appealing factor of party play) Splitting is not an issue when you are making 20 times more than average single person.

[@genocidegrand2057]

much appriciated

[@JavierCasanova25]

i made 2 mirrors for the first time last league, making the staff for bane occultist, somehow everyone was sleeping on the divine teardrop to make almost perfect staffs for around 10 ex, i was selling at 80ex+, didnt last too long tho, not many ppl was looking to go that high end in that build

[@slayerem]

I have the knowledge to make mid tier crafting items... Tailwind boots, use to do my own explosion chests when that was a thing and so on, but I kinda stopped crafting in Poe (unless I play in SSF, which I do every now and then), the problem is I never enjoyed the process and it's dead time for me, I don't have fun doing it and usually, when I do start crafting for profit I really don't need more money and I ended up sending to standard some 50ex + items that I crafted and quit the league before selling them. Now, tbh, this new atlas and the league kept me playing more than I use to and I still enjoy the game so I decided wth, let's craft something, I want to play the Omni tornado shot build so let's do a spine bow, 750alts average for +2 arrows, 2k alts later I was just looking blankly at the screen wondering why I wasted my time 😄

[@GaMzTeamQf]

The thumbnail triggered me that’s why I’m here

[@revanbane]

Thinking about all the potential Exalts missed hits hard.

[@dhaougdiri8050]

ok ok i am hooked just take my sub already

[@fantomxdexrage]

yuge

[@EAZUP]

I want to know that other part.. sounds cool. Spill the beans bro 😄

[@leewederath7087]

I dont remember if it was this video or the beginner crafting guide, but how do you make the search string to tell you when your item rolls the mods you want in your stash?

[@waqas96]

Ran out of currency massaging my item now its just laying on the bench alone.

[@TheZerosteel]

if you use just a basic red and no blue works the same? dont?

[@mustaphajabbar3849]

the part of (research builds knowing the demand) is much easier said than done. when I search the builds and see what builds are most common on ninja poe I just see that all items worth much less than crafting cost I cant find an item that worth more than the minimum cost and that just ruin the whole idea of craft for profit. Im really frustrated X( , I want to get a mageblood before this league ends and it just get higher in price while I cant catch up with it. Currently I own around 100ex (a lucky shoot for HH) and Mageblood price is 330ex that will keep increase :(

[@AlucardNoir]

Always check the item level? Where were you when I was rolling my flasks...

[@TheAnd1roid]

do you have something like this for RL please?

[@diegogarber1]

You got a Rob Chapman?? Nice! First time I see it, right?

[@subtractem]

first run ML-1 yeah :) it's usually hidden behind the Les Paul

[@diegogarber1]

@@subtractem I think it's the first time I saw it! AWESOME!! How do you like it?

[@smilingnavern]

How do you look for prices in the game? What is the program to use for this?

[@subtractem]

Awakened poe trade

[@metaslavegaming9075]

Step 1: make sure trade league lives longer than 4 weeks

[@devinvisible]

How many people looked up bifurcation?

[@jukkapekkaylitalo]

There is lots of players who play casually. Like me who have like 2-3 ex to use, but would like to double our currency by crafting. Any budget tips for crafting. with low starting currency and get few ex items.

[@aoibheall55]

You want a couple ex more to start so you have a bit of a buffer. Where are you at in the league? Are you farming T14-16s?

[@charliescorner8098]

harvest spam reforges on cluster jewels

[@jukkapekkaylitalo]

@@aoibheall55 YT14+ got my legion map device open. Running mostly breach legion blight +1 more scaraps. but i don't have blight taken from map.

[@jukkapekkaylitalo]

Just don't seem to be able to run more than few maps in row.

[@aoibheall55]

@@jukkapekkaylitalo Is that because you get bored? Are there other league mechanics you prefer?

[@vietcuongtran6489]

Farming is too fun and profitable this league for me to sit there and craft things for profit. I crafted for profit pretty much last leagues but this league i can't stop running maps with tons of valuable drops lol.

[@Alandur2010]

The vid is probably really useful, but for me personally it just really enforced the feeling that moving to ssf a year ago was the best decision ever (poe-wise). playing the game as a economy-simulation feels kinda void to me.

[@TheEternalVortex42]

I play both, I think both are fun for different reasons.

[@fabioballestra704]

Im waiting for privat Couches 😁

[@Schnezler]

crafter cough... craft suffixes cannot be changed, reforge defences more common.. profit maybe you need 5-7 crafts which is like 14 ex, but the result usually pays for that. Only recommended for someone who can sustain those "gambles" (or well can sustain sunken costs)

[@nickkonusundacokhass]

Give us the grey area

[@bloggersniffle5358]

I love Path of Exile, but the crafting has always annoyed me. It's so impractical and inefficient to craft early on in your progress since you generally don't have great bases or exalts, conqueror orbs, fossils/resonators, high-end essences, etc. You're kinda left with just chaos/alt spam but it's almost unanimously better to just buy an item than to spam. By the time I've built up enough resources to reliably craft, I don't really need to craft. Sure you can turn 50 exalts into 250 exalts, but if I ever have 50 exalts then I'm done with the league. I don't know what the solution is (or if there even should be a solution), but I really wish crafting was more accessible.

[@subtractem]

It's really about the game knowledge and knowing the demand at the time of the league. For example: you can get very accessible and cheap bases early on and hit them with single fossils (dense on an ES base) or harvest reforges (speed on two-tone boots) to get your base currency up. It's even better these days with Rog crafting the first week or two of a league. Do this a bit and it should get you comfortably to about 10-20ex and you can start crafting lower-mid tier stuff, etc. This is the exact strategy that the master crafters use to go from 0 to 1000ex in the first week of a league. It's all relative to the timing and supply/demand of the economy. It's never impractical, just need to shore up the knowledge to understand what is best when for your means. :)

[@TheEternalVortex42]

Crafting the first couple days is even easier since you can just make basic life (or es)/resist items using essence/harvest/fossils/rog and sell for 20+ chaos.

[@bloggersniffle5358]

@@subtractem Hey man thanks for the detailed response. Unfortunately it usually takes me a couple weeks to reach maps so I don't get to benefit from selling decent/good items. I actually have two tabs full of good items that won't sell even for a few chaos. It takes me somewhere between 4 and 6 weeks to build up enough stuff to craft. There's a really strong correlation between time spent in PoE and currency made. If you want a HH/Mageblood or other high-end gear then you just have to play a shitload of hours or get super lucky. I've settled with the fact that I'll probably never have those items or complete those builds. I just don't have the time to do it. I'll be happy with my 20-30 exalts in most leagues and my single character. It usually gives me 6 weeks of enjoyment per league.

[@TheDiscoMole]

its not even a good fracture, a fractured prefix is much better lol

[@geptimbo]

"On average" doesn't exist in this game. Started with 36 Exalts to craft my Gear for my LS Omniscience Raider. Lost 6 Orb of Dominance, 6 Awakener's Orb to shit, Aisling has stolen 3 times my good Mod out of 3 and I'm in 2.710 Fusings to 6 Link my Chest. I'm broke and I don't have any good Gear. KEKW. I prob gave 100 Guys the 1 fusing to 6 link and Maven to the first Orb luck.

[@NoPantts]

bro u need to get to the point faster in your video, 5 min into your vid and you said nothing so far.

[@NoPantts]

you talk to us like we're 5 very annoying. U dont have to explain each point 5 different way.

[@subtractem]

Yes I do, trust me.