Point a Minute: Can Michigan win the national championship in 2024?

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@SBSBuckeyeG
@SBSBuckeyeG 21 күн бұрын
Great show guys! Curious on this: The magic number has been 60-62% for Orji. JJ was 72% last year and I asked my cohost if JJ through 62% would you have won it all. His answer was no. I personally don’t think athletic ability makes up for 10% of a completion %. What is your reason for that being the number he needs? Also check out Oregons trenches. This narrative they don’t have size is weird to me and recruiting shows that!!
@teamrivalry
@teamrivalry 21 күн бұрын
So, I base my mid-60's target on the fact that Michigan probably won't ask Orji to throw unless it's necessary which means he'd be throwing in situations where a completion is more difficult (ex. 3rd and long...etc.) and converting about 60% of those passes feels like a good number to achieve for Michigan to have success since I also believe they will have a very good run game. Thanks for the question! - Mac
@Frank313Archie
@Frank313Archie 21 күн бұрын
It’s not 17-0 it’s 16-0 because of the bye if you’re an undefeated conference champion.
@haelterman09
@haelterman09 21 күн бұрын
Unless you are Florida State of course.
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
A team that is not a Conference Champion can win 17, since they can't get a first round bye
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
@@haelterman09 unless you are a dolt
@teamrivalry
@teamrivalry 21 күн бұрын
Oh, you're right. They could go 16-1, but if they're undefeated they would actually play one less game.
@Frank313Archie
@Frank313Archie 21 күн бұрын
@@taxisquad11 nah guy, you can play 17 games but you can’t win 17. More than likely the natty champ will either be 16-0, 16-1 or 15-2. If a three loss team gets in and win they’ll be 13-3.
@johnnymaccool9828
@johnnymaccool9828 21 күн бұрын
5 star high school athletes are rated 5 stars playing against 15-18 year olds where 91 % of players are not good enough to go any further than high school, so it’s hit or miss 😂
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 20 күн бұрын
This is one of the most stupid posts in history. ALL 5-star high school players go on to play in College. Where 65% of them get drafted, The highest % of all players that play college football. WTF "high and miss"????
@johnnymaccool9828
@johnnymaccool9828 20 күн бұрын
@@taxisquad11 so 37% of high school 5 stars miss wtf lol gfy
@jamietwigg5152
@jamietwigg5152 19 күн бұрын
@@taxisquad11 Tate Martell says hi.
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 19 күн бұрын
@@jamietwigg5152 More proof of your lack of intellect concerning college football. Martell was an Urban guy. When Ryan Day was hired by Urban's to change his offense, the Martells of the world were no longer recruited. Your welcome for the education
@Frank313Archie
@Frank313Archie 21 күн бұрын
You don’t need elite qb play out of Orji to win another natty. He just needs to be dominant when rushing, decent at passing(62% passing or better) and turnover free.
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
Have you ever known a QB to be "turnover free"???....COME ON!!
@Frank313Archie
@Frank313Archie 21 күн бұрын
@@taxisquad11 not turnover prone. Yea you can have a couple here and there but very few. Less than seven would be a good number.
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 20 күн бұрын
@@Frank313Archie There has NEVER EVER been a college QB that has only had a "couple here and there".....stupidity
@Frank313Archie
@Frank313Archie 20 күн бұрын
@@taxisquad11 JJ Mcarthy only had 4 all year long. You’re wrong…..a lot I see. How’s the coping on everything Michigan coming along? Lol soft ass
@JuwwnDunbar
@JuwwnDunbar 20 күн бұрын
Facts, I believe Michigan can win a natty with orji and they compare orji to milroe. Jalen milroe is a top 5 QB in college football right now
@pmaximus5659
@pmaximus5659 21 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, we will never ever have a undefeated Michigan/ OSU team going to the big ten championship game because we play each other’s the week before?
@onescoopjohn
@onescoopjohn 21 күн бұрын
True
@SnowDaulphin
@SnowDaulphin 21 күн бұрын
May set up 3 games against our main rival in one season.
@SnowDaulphin
@SnowDaulphin 21 күн бұрын
Will be extremely rare in any instance if FSU and Clemson join the BT party.
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
Therefore, most likely Michigan and Ohio State will not play each other in the Big Ten Title game
@teamrivalry
@teamrivalry 21 күн бұрын
Michigan and Ohio State were both undefeated going into the Michigan v Ohio State game last year. If it happens again this year with divisions are gone, it's possible they will meet again in the Big Ten Championship the following week.
@JuwwnDunbar
@JuwwnDunbar 20 күн бұрын
Yes Michigan football winning back to back national championships 🏆🏆
@louispapp7722
@louispapp7722 19 күн бұрын
if they go undefeated it would be 16-0 not 17-0 because they would get a first round bye.
@bryanlong9314
@bryanlong9314 21 күн бұрын
Excellent QB play from Orji Michigan can go 12 - 0. If not, I agree with 9-3 record
@BuckeyesBattleCry
@BuckeyesBattleCry 21 күн бұрын
Michigan fans talk about how good their team is at developing, but the main reason for that development has gone to the NFL and for good reason. The whole development vs dollar sign rhetoric is not accurate. The name of the game these days is “NIL”. Adapt or die. NIL is extremely huge in today’s college football. Your show mentions it each time recruiting is talked about and how Michigan’s NIL has improved. Ryan Day is getting the right staff together slowly, but surely. The defense is night and day from what it was in 2021 and especially the secondary. Look what Jim Knowles and Tim Walton have done. The addition of James Laurinaitis is huge too and recruiting has picked up in at LB. I can imagine he’s great at development as well. The only weak spot on the coaching staff has been Justin Frye.
@teamrivalry
@teamrivalry 21 күн бұрын
Well, yes and no. If Harbaugh was the reason for the good development than he likely developed the coaches, too. Which means Harbaugh's influence is now multiplied across several coaches.
@leojanuszewski1019
@leojanuszewski1019 19 күн бұрын
To the Ohio fans obsessing on Michigan channels on the daily: Connor Stalions hadn't been hired yet by Michigan when the 2021 game was played and he was long gone by the time the 2023 game went down. This leaves only the 2022 game for which your own coaches say they changed their signs. You were legitimately 3-peated. Stop being babies about it. 👶🍼
@SBSBuckeyeG
@SBSBuckeyeG 21 күн бұрын
Great show guys! Curious on this: The magic number has been 60-62% for Orji. JJ was 72% last year and I asked my cohost if JJ through 62% would you have won it all. His answer was no. I personally don’t think athletic ability makes up for 10% of a completion %. What is your reason for that being the number he needs?
@seangarner2687
@seangarner2687 20 күн бұрын
Completion percentage is a trash stat. It's so easy to pad that stat. YPA (preferably adjusted net) means much more.
@SBSBuckeyeG
@SBSBuckeyeG 19 күн бұрын
@@seangarner2687 so JJ stat padded?
@jamescooper3324
@jamescooper3324 21 күн бұрын
If Orji can be just as good or better than Milroe, our floor is 10-2. I think he can with our development
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
Milroe wasn't good enough to beat Michigan
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 21 күн бұрын
​@@taxisquad11this isnt golf! Milroe is one of 40 players who played M!
@JuwwnDunbar
@JuwwnDunbar 20 күн бұрын
If orji as good or better than milroe than Michigan football go have another undefeated season and go 16-0
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 20 күн бұрын
@@jamescooper3324 M has to let Orji run rpo every play and let him run as play dictates not protect him from injury as they did JJ! Ala let Mil run - no fear! Orji is better phys than Mil! Q is will M do it and not put Orji in pro O! Not his strength!
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 20 күн бұрын
@@JuwwnDunbar How can you be so doltish? Milroe has been the starting WB for Alabama for a year and played in the post season against Michigan and got beat. Orgi has not played a down as a starter
@pmaximus5659
@pmaximus5659 21 күн бұрын
I would rather stick with morals and philosophy than dropping bags 💼
@clarencewalder2985
@clarencewalder2985 21 күн бұрын
U are not dropping the bags the schools OR whoever behind the curtain is. And please fans let be honest Ever school including Ohio state develop players ... Each school develop and times. To say a school like Ohio State OR Michigan doesn't develop is a lie plain and simple. Just look at the players in the NFL they are all over even Michigan QB are in the NFL
@bushcraftohio7320
@bushcraftohio7320 21 күн бұрын
1questton. What BIG games has Ryan day won? Vs top 10 teams. Top 5 teams vs the sec. Vs UM?? Ryan day is James Franklin with a better roster
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
STOP bloviating and do some research.These are THE FACTS about Jim Harbaugh. In his 9 years at Michigan he lost 11 games to top 10 teams, was upset 10 times by teams outside the Top 10, was 0-5 against Ohio State and was afraid to play Rayan Day one year. Then THE most miraculous turnout in college football history occurred in 2021, after going 49-22 in his first 6 years and afraid to play Day in 2020. For some strange unknown reason(wink) he goes 35-3. After which, he leaves for the NFL and takes all of his good soldier assistants with him.
@bushcraftohio7320
@bushcraftohio7320 21 күн бұрын
@@taxisquad11 did i EVER mention harbaugh ? i was not a fan of him. this was about ryan day ! read before you churp. RYAN DAY IS A SOFT PILLOW! and if you do some research back say more than 15yrs. you will see UM lead THE GAME by what? 22 at 1 point. osu needed 15 just to get it back to single digits UM has more of everything. and now whats coming out about urban ? paying players BEFORE nil? lil cheating goin on? who knows. wink wink osu has had a top roster in the country EVERY YR. what has day got you? beats up on ALL OF THE LOWER BIG 10 TEAMS kudos to you and your hero
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
@@bushcraftohio7320 SO, the ignorance of your post is the ONLY coach we are allowed to talk about out of the 100+ head coaches in the county is Ryan Day??? LOLOLOL What a fool you are. THE softest of the soft, of all pillows was Michigan in the 16 years just prior to the ONLY 3 years you dunces what to talk about, When Ohio State won FIFTEEN of those 16. It was very dumb of senile Lou Holtz to coin that insulting idea when it can be turned around and used on Michigan in over 100 of the games in the series. When Michigan was softer than Ohio State LOLOLOLOLOL. THINK.......about it....if capable
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
@@bushcraftohio7320 I DARE YOU to do the required research and ask for a list of all the Michigan players and coaches in the past 2 decades to get in trouble and lose their scholarships and jobs. It will SHOCK you, it did me. The ignorant idea of how special U of M is perceived is a joke. It's a perfect example of the theory that if you tell a lie often enough it will be believed. Your mommies maybe but not me, as i do more research by far than all the dolts combined on here
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 20 күн бұрын
@@bushcraftohio7320 DUMMY!!! That unconfirmed story about Urban was TWENTY YEARS before he came to Ohio State AND he was just an assistant for your guy, senile Lou Holtz. HOLTZ, the head coach, would be the guy cutting the check, not Urban, Assistants can't do that. Ignoramus, Michigan plays the same Big Ten schedule. It took Harbaugh SIXTEEN years of being a head coach before he won his one and only National Title. Day has been a head coach for only 5 years LOLOLOL You could save all this embarrassment with a little research. Don't be such a lazy ars
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
McCarthy completed 73% of his passes. Can Orgi complete 60%? "Elite" means 70% and completing big passes on 3rd and long to extend drives
@Shaman196
@Shaman196 21 күн бұрын
70% because JJ wasn't expected to pass that much.
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
@@Shaman196 LOLO. WELL then, Orgi should complete 80% of his passes since he will be expected to pass FAR LESS than JJ did. Another doltish thought by a know nothing nobody Michigan Man. You should be embarrassed for putting down your 10th round pick. The NFL experts know FAR FAR more than those of your ilk.
@clarencewalder2985
@clarencewalder2985 21 күн бұрын
This was mot a good analysis i sm soory its to bias. I understand that rival fans and experts dont like tocomment about other teams strengh but plesse IF U think Michigan a development program it must have started 3 years ago OR when jim was about to het fired. To dsy ohio state frops bags on there plsyers or os known for that throughout the years is a lie. Just like Michigan going 16 and 0 beating ohio state with a new QB, new online,wrs,a starting rb who good or a hit or miss,new cosches everywhere , a great defense but now depth is s question but we know Michigan reloads not rebuild/development which can take up to 3 years or more. We font believe it but thats why thry plsy the games. I sm sticking yo 2 or 3 loses because of QB and online play
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
Prove $20 million, what players got what amount of money?
@NattyTime517
@NattyTime517 21 күн бұрын
They just make shut up.
@teamrivalry
@teamrivalry 21 күн бұрын
A million here, a million there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.
@TheRealMacAndCheese
@TheRealMacAndCheese 21 күн бұрын
@@NattyTime517 lol we don't make things up. We aren't Buckeye Scoop!
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 20 күн бұрын
@@teamrivalry That is stupidity at its finest. It proves nothing. It CANNOT be proven. Only the IRS will ever know,. All others are LIARS
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 20 күн бұрын
@@TheRealMacAndCheese LIAR you just did
@Mr8031995
@Mr8031995 21 күн бұрын
Saying OSU doesn’t develop is insane especially seeing the level of success a number of players have shown in the NFL.
@Hockeykid4100
@Hockeykid4100 21 күн бұрын
It’s the only thing they can come up with as an excuse. Let them live in fantasy.
@teamrivalry
@teamrivalry 21 күн бұрын
We actually didn't say Ohio State doesn't develop players. We're talking about Ryan Day's plan to build a team with $13-20 million dollars of NIL money vs Michigan not having an NIL plan and working on developing players.
@Hockeykid4100
@Hockeykid4100 21 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@teamrivalryMichigan does have NIL you threw a bag at Jordon and missed.
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 21 күн бұрын
M develops players far more than the sleeznuts!! 3/4 stars just won 3 strt over 4/5 star sleeznuts and ala!
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
Michigan will win every Nation Title for ever, since they've won one
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 21 күн бұрын
Won 12 NTs clown!! Get yr $ bk fr yr GED!
@jonathanmoody390
@jonathanmoody390 21 күн бұрын
They don't have the QB or the WRs.
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
Ohio State has more first round picks. They must know how to develop. Just prior to the past 3 games Ohio State beat Michigan 15 of 16 games. Ohio State lost to MIssouri because they were down to their 3rd string QB in the first quarter. If Michigan was down to their 3rd string QB against Ohio State, they don't make it to the Big Ten Title and thus don't win the National Title.
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 21 күн бұрын
Sleeznuts had more 5 star recrts who dont have to improve to be ist rnd nfl picks! Thnk Marv was sig better when he left? Not!! Ms Graham and Grant were 3 stars! Now top 15 picks nxt nfl draft!!
@taxisquad11
@taxisquad11 21 күн бұрын
@@billkramer2994 You show your lack of football intellect. ALL 5-star players need to be developed. Ask Marvin what the WR room and Brian Hartline did for him, SURELY you aren't suggesting the greatest developers in the history of college football, the large rodents of michigan, didn't bother to develop 5-Stars Jackson, McCarthy, Hinton and Peoples Jones??? LOLOLOLOL FOOOOL
@steveskuras2515
@steveskuras2515 20 күн бұрын
Not saying it's impossible but very unlikely No.1...it's very difficult to repeat. No. 2...they have a very tough schedule. No. 3...new starting QB. Goal in my opinion...make the 12 team playoff and then anything can happen
@MichiganVOCFB
@MichiganVOCFB 20 күн бұрын
100% Go Blue!
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