Point at Carlisle Plaza | a dead mall | Crown American's Little Prince in Pennsylvania | ExLog 64

[@sal]

Thanks for watching, guys! Let me know if any of you have any clue what Hard Ticket to Hawaii is about. I'm lost. Leave a like for bulletproof snakes.

[@WhisperWebb]

Wow Sal, you must be smokin some heavy doobies 🤣🤣🤣 where do you find these obscure z movies? Love them!

[@speedingatheist]

@@WhisperWebb He might be subbed to Red Letter Media.

[@jimmywayne983]

When i look at the VHS hardcover of Hard ticket to Hawaii, and not a english cover/Release, the english translation i come to is along these lines: Donna and Taryn, two cargo operators, chance upon a stash of diamonds as they prepare to ship a large snake to a local zoo. The gems belong to a drug-lord who tries everything to get his cache back.

[@kellylermasprague5417]

Sal I have no idea looks like every bad 80s action movie . All I got out of it was Ron Moss lol. Being a young married couple on a limited budget during this time these B movie videos were what we rented on dollar nights and they were all pretty much the same

[@sirekumasutra7022]

I actually saw HTTH in like 2010 haha. I remember there were cancer infested rats that I think a snake ate, the snake coming through the toilet, and the bazooka blowing up the blow up doll which made laugh to tears. And it starred Ron Moss who was on Bold and the Beautiful.

[@LeighDeitrick1]

These poor malls, I remember how exciting & fun they were.

[@bigdaddyd8193]

Great video. I grew up going to that mall. It had a Rea and Derrick Drug store, sherwin Williams, Kay bee toys, foot locker, arcade, main ingredient, b dalton books, record store, candy store, hickory farms, pizza shop, Sears surplus, golds gym,d e Jones, Deb, Claire’s, hallmark. We think the real reason that Giant bought the mall back was to stop the potential development of a competing grocery store.

[@gairsxn]

That’s crazy, today it now only holds duhnams, and a small hair cut shop. There is currently a spirit Halloween where the bon ton used to be but that’s only a fall, seasonal store

[@brookebenton8192]

These videos make me happy and sad all at the same time. I was born in 82 and it really takes me back! Keep up the good work!!😎💖

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Same here, it’s sad to see how things have changed so much & I feel bad that my kids can’t experience what we did... 😢

[@YiFangShen]

Hearing old anchors that we know are dead already is so haunting....thank you again Sal for making these.

[@PhaQ2]

WOW! I haven't been to this mall since 1978. Thanks for the trip to my past.

[@BigKahuna0275]

I absolutely enjoy your humor starting every segment with the absolute worst B flicks America has to offer 😂😂😂. Another masterpiece as always!🙏

[@seabrook1976]

No, no, those are the BEST America has to offer! Nothing more entertaining.

[@everyhandletaken]

Love that old school Bon-Ton facade 😎👌🏻

[@catnapped_]

The Bon-Ton signage is long gone FWIW

[@everyhandletaken]

Stephan Mynarkiewicz should be in a museum somewhere 😢

[@Abigail_Wyatt]

Can you please tell me what a Bon Ton is? I legit never heard of it before these videos and I’m dying to know what they sold.

[@everyhandletaken]

@@Abigail_Wyatt The Bon Ton (Bon Ton) was a department store (retail stores), which is now an online retail brand only. Bon Ton means ‘fashionable manner or style’. They started in the late 1800’s & sold textiles/clothing & ‘millinery’ (women’s hats) I believe, so I gather that is why they chose the name with its meaning.

[@kellylermasprague5417]

“These hands are lethal weapons “ Ron Moss from Player “Baby Come Back” and Bold and the Beautiful

[@TrainmasterCurt]

A very 70’s aesthetic wonder!

[@MichaelAStanhope]

and yes, Neato Burrito is still at the Point, but they want to move out of the mall. Luckily, they have an outside entrance to the restaurant. The one in Carlisle is one of the best locations too, and they actually get pretty busy.

[@chrispa9573]

Neato burrito is a great place to eat. Several in Harrisburg area.

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

🤮

[@vonschweringen8321]

We used to have one in Lancaster it was awesome! But it's gone :(

[@ednarupp1631]

Still one around Capital City Mall in a different strip mall on the Gettysburg-Harisburg Pike

[@TechGorilla1987]

@@ednarupp1631 One in the plaza in Lemoyne too!

[@stephanie3848]

The one in New Cumberland is my favorite. It's takeout only these days because of covid though. My favorites are the Blackened Burrito and carnita.

[@MichaelAStanhope]

When The Bon Ton closed, that was the final nail in the coffin for what was left of the Point. There were quite a few more stores there in 2018 when the Bon Ton was going out of business (this location closed before the entire chain liquidated). I think there were only a small number of empty store fronts then. The Bon Ton store was a strange one, they had the 70's logo inside the mall, the 90's logo on the back of the store, and the newest one on the front of the store. They unfortunately took the outside signs down though :(. They closed this K-Mart and moved it across town, which subsequently was closed last year. It was the last K-Mart in this part of PA.

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Moved to Carlisle back in the late 80’s, I’ll always remember it was the year Tim Burtons Batman hit theaters. This mall was awesome, it had a KB toy store which was a awesome toy store & a really cool arcade which was called Jolly time. I remember seeing a Super Nintendo kiosk with Super Mario world at the K- Mart you mentioned. The MJ mall which is where Wal-mart is located now was even better at one point. They had a Hills department store a really awesome arcade & a Wool-worth store... I have some really great memories of the plaza though, I remember they had Santa there around Christmas time & they gave out gifts. Man, I feel bad for the kids that grew up after these times. I know business is business but it seems like everything that is good is gone... Great video, thanks for the memories.

[@MrKGetz]

I used to work in Carlisle and live by Harrisburg in Wormleysburg. I used to drive past this Plaza coming home from work every night.

[@ednarupp1631]

I used to go here all the time when I was a little girl in the 80's. This was my mall, along with the MJ mall, also in Carlisle. In the late 90's, when they closed Barnes and Noble (originally Waldenbooks, but something else before then, and K-B. Toys, it was all over, and this mall has been suffering a long, slow, agonizing death ever since.

[@Ur2ez4me81]

I remember KB toys at this mall & the arcade was nice as well. The MJ mall was better at one point had Hills & Wool-worth it however you spell it lol. The good old days.

[@stephanie3848]

I live close to Capital City Mall which is still alive and well btw so most of my memories are there but I have an old memory of being here once

[@taylorheilman3292]

I remember going here as a kid when it was a mall. It declined so fast. I’m glad someone actually went to it and did a dead mall video on it. I used to love going to Claire’s there when I was a kid and if I remember correctly there was a KB Toys there

[@MNGS717]

8:05 is KB Toys.. It’s filled with surplus kayaks from Dunham’s now. Went there many times in the 80’s/90’s. The colored floor tiles give it away in every dead mall. Still has mirrored ceiling too where the checkout once was. 12:28 Foot Locker is another store that is still easily recognized through the gate. My favorite place in the original Plaza was the Jolly Time video arcade.

[@taylorheilman3292]

Ahh I see it now thank you! Didn’t see the colored tiles the first time I watched it. I remember footlocker as well and Orange Julius. I remember getting OJ with my grandma every time we went. So many memories. Each store had a distinct smell too that I can vividly remember

[@MNGS717]

Taylor Heilman awesome! i don’t remember Orange Julius? Where was it located? I remember there was once a hand tossed pizza shop and the snack bar seen in the video.

[@ednarupp1631]

@@MNGS717 The orange Julius was toward the back of the Mall, near the book store, in the central hub of the plaza that had bon-ton at the other end. It was very early eighties, though, and I barely remember it myself.

[@taylorheilman3292]

MNGS717 it might of been from the snack bar. I very vaguely remember getting Orange Julius-esque drinks from there before. I was very little at the time

[@PageNumber687x]

oh my god. you taught me something i had always wondered about as a former lowe's employee. not even management could tell us why the stupid board with our store number hanging on the wall at customer service was sawed in half and hung crooked of all things! i mean, it's a got dang home improvement store and we were just told "it's meant to be hung like that" with no further explaination. customers asked why as well and we could only shrug our shoulders at them. and i friggin worked there when the store was opened! it was fitting though, seeing as they built the store on wetlands/a MAJOR flood plain and only put about of foot of earth down to build it on. floors were majorly cracked and the roof started leaking horribly within 9 months of opening to the point we had to pull plastic storage bins and barrels off the shelves whenever it rained to collect it. kinda embarrassing for a home improvement store...

[@randysheetz690]

This is nice to see and depressing at the same time, as I grew up going there and my one grandmother used to work sat that Bon Ton. When I left the area a decade ago, that mall had even less stores in it then your video shows.

[@CSXNewYork]

Three eras of Bon-Ton signage in one place... nice. 16:35 Mixed-case script 17:13 All lower-case 17:37 All upper-case

[@dondavis5633]

L LOVE that Neato Burrito spinning neon sign!! The rest of the mall, not so much, though that lovely mural is an eye-catcher. Most importantly, this is another wonderfully entertaining vid from my pal, Sal... Thanks so much!!

[@j.sayler6330]

Thanks for the video, Sal. For a while after the KMart store closed, the space was occupied by an antique co-op, which was pretty good. In more recent years, Bon Ton before it closed didn't see a lot of traffic: They moved all their employees on the floor to cashier kiosks, so a customer actually had to go find a clerk to wait on him. Because of Bon Ton's poor service, I stopped going.

[@freddyburger5574]

Yet another fascinating video, Sal! Top quality as usual, very informative. As always, thanks for making these awesome mini-documentaries. I love setting aside time to curl up with my chromebook and a new exlog!

[@Decade8Media]

That mexican bowl looked stellar.

[@kellylermasprague5417]

Love the vintage Bon Ton front and signage

[@willyp5855]

The Plaza used to be a busy mall back in the 90's. They remodeled it 15+ years ago, and it's been dead since then. I remember when K Mart and the arcade was up where Lowes is now. Since cell phones and the internet, things changed a lot. It's kind of sad to think about. Kids now will never get that kind of experience.

[@crackerlackingproductions6746]

Usually i don't get hungry watching these but the burrito place looks awesome

[@stephanie3848]

It is! I love them

[@rubies200]

Ronn Moss was star in "Hard Ticket to Hawaii"! He was later 'Ridge Forrester' on "The Bold and the Beautiful". His acting on the soap was just as wooden as it was in the movie!

[@ARTSIEBECCA]

I agree...lol

[@brix2270]

Ronn Moss is/was also in the band Player, of “Baby Come Back” fame.

[@rubies200]

@@brix2270 I didn't know that! I knew he was in some band, but I didn't know it was famous for that song.

[@Sula_Mareska]

I went to Carlisle back in September 2019 for a small weekend trip. I had no idea that this mall existed, and that was despite my mom going through a few “what to see and what to spend money at in Carlisle” pamphlets she picked up at our hotel. I have to imagine the community, or at least the pamphlet printers, have kind of given up now with this mall, particularly given that they’re shifting focus to their downtown area with more unique stores

[@Rossturnerphoto]

As far as I can remember, I've never set foot inside a Bon-Ton store, and I had barely heard of them before the news broke that they were closing all locations. even still, I truly appreciate the vintage beauty that is that interior Mall sign for The Bon-Ton. I also find it interesting that they exterior signs were both different from the interior sign and from each other. I'm not familiar with their history, but it looks to me like 3 different generations of signage on that store. All the better for us to look at and appreciate.

[@ednarupp1631]

Yes, that Bon-ton was one of the last to close, as sales and the products were still good. I was hoping it would hang on.

[@BradenKennelly]

bon ton sounds like a tanning salon where you get turned B R I G H T orange

[@andysorensen1737]

That mural is pretty cool!

[@danrhone9756]

I remember when I was little I use to live in Carlisle, PA I would go with my parents to MJ Mall or Carlisle Plaza Mall every weekend. I miss those water fountains they had in the middle of that mall plus that arcade place too and Lowerys Organ shop

[@stephanie3848]

What a beautiful job on this video, thank you for all the information too. I have a vague memory of seeing the Jim Thorpe section of the mural when I was a little girl, when my dad took me there once after going fishing on the Letort. It was around 1990 so I'm sure all the stores were filled and it was bustling with people then. Now I like to see it whenever I go to Carlisle, there is something about it. If the mall is torn down I hope they can at least keep the mural and area around it as a vintage remembrance, maybe the Neato Burrito can expand seating into the area and have it as a stand-alone restaurant since the theme of these restaurants is retro already? Just a thought!

[@TechGorilla1987]

I graduated from a local HS in 87. Great times!

[@andijamet4501]

Oh wow! I spent many weekends at this mall. It’s sad to see it like this.

[@seabrook1976]

Your taste in movie sponsors is exquisite. They're all A-rated in my book.

[@sal]

Thanks :)

[@BethanyB86]

Great video! I really like the weekly video uploads it starts my week off right.

[@TheRedDevil_NC]

I really look forward to your logs. Great detail. Thank you

[@chrispatnode8387]

Neato Burrito is still here physically but due to covid restrictions I can't say if its going to reopen

[@jarrodbroome7579]

Thank you for introducing me to my next favorite film!!

[@matthewgilliland1312]

Its about time you did a video on this place you've gone everywhere else in PA lol. Great stuff man.

[@lindagoreham2238]

Happy Father's Day to your dad, and thanks for yours awesome videos!

[@bladerunner752]

In the bay area California there are two malls I would love to see videos on. Sun valley mall in Concord California and what used to be county east mall in Antioch California. Both from the late 60s early 70s era.

[@ssweetener]

I used to work at that OfficeMax. It has since closed down. You should try the cowboy crunch with chili at Neato, It’s amazing.

[@tiffanystephens3460]

Hey Sal! Great job once again! Very Informative

[@chrispa9573]

I used to work about a mile away from this place.

[@stephanie3848]

The green store with the bay windows was a Hallmark store I remember

[@esw01407]

Didn't know about Kmart being at the mall, very interesting!

[@ednarupp1631]

Yes, K-mart was one of the anchor stores, next to the Big mural of Carlisle history with Jim Thorpe and William Pen on it.

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Edna Rupp I remember as well. Do you remember kB toys being there & that arcade? Awesome times.

[@jh1328]

I grew up about 5 miles from this mall, and even in the 90s I remember it being dead.

[@Jim_Norcross]

Okay...so...The Neato Burrito is still there, however I need to offer a correction for you. The Kmart was not where Neato Burrito is, rather it was at the far end of the property where Lowe's is at now. The concourse was about twice the size it is now, and that mural was at the far end against the same hallway that Kmart was along. The main entrance now is where the entryway to JCP was. As of today, The Bon Ton signage has been removed.

[@sal]

I guess I meant more of a broad idea of "that end of the mall" adverse to the Bon-Ton courtyard...since so much of the mall was razed. You're absolutely right, though.

[@Jim_Norcross]

@@sal Heh...that was my teenage mall so I'm protective of it's memory. :)

[@SassyFrasponduechu]

In every dead mall there’s all ways a gum ball toys machine and a lone coke or Pepsi machines full and there’s all ways a GNC that’s barely alive the workers have to be bored at these malls

[@MrKGetz]

For the past 16 months, I have been working off Allen Road which is only a handful of miles from this shopping center.

[@gairsxn]

lol me and my friends sometimes skateboard in this mall when it’s really rainy. Currently there are only 3 1/2 stores (the 1/2 store is a seasonal store that isn’t there year round) but we skate here cuz no one goes here and we don’t feel bad because there is no one to disturb.

[@ednarupp1631]

I believe there was an Apple store here, too, in the early eighties. This or the MJ mall, also in Carlisle.

[@ChevyNovaSS-tb3xf]

2020 Bon Tons Holding Company LLC, which includes Elder Berman and Yonkers is a functioning online website. Check it out, there currently in the process of opening there 1st new store in Carson's Evergreen Park in Illinois. It's under the Yonkers name.

[@mattzupon4155]

So glad that Sheetz stayed red during black and white scenes #AltoonaPARepresent

[@GetOffMyLawn_]

Great place to walk on hot days in the summer! Might be dead in there but it's usually squeaky clean. FYI Neato Burrito is still there as of today.

[@ianchristopheralexander1985]

I was dead the last time I was there.

[@sal]

I’m happy to see you have recovered.

[@aafris]

We Three Records!

[@markstrouse3101]

Great video sal, like always

[@davidstout4022]

Interesting video, and I enjoyed it. However, some of your information isn't factual. I was born and raised just outside Carlisle. I'd been to this mall since I was a kid. I got my first bike at the old Town and Country department store, along with a scar above my right eye, from running into one of the clotting bin displays, when I was a tot. Joe the Motorist was located just down the walkway, before it became an enclosed mall. The mural was actually placed well before Lowes was a thought. Kmart stood where Lowes is now, and there use to be an upper entrance on the side facing Rt.74. The mural was placed on that wall outside of Kmart. JC Penney was located off that entry way you entered, that section is no longer there. Kay Jewlers use to be on the left corner from JC Penney, and that's where I bought my ex-wifes engagement ring. The 80's were a bustling time at this mall and at the MJ Mall. Craft and bakery sales would take place in the walk areas every October to November and the places would be packed with shoppers. It was a good time to grow up in, and the malls taught young people how to interact and socialize with people you may have otherwise never came into contact with. Good video, and I thoroughly enjoyed the memory walk with you.

[@dfosterRGB]

As of 2024, Neato Burrito, Joann Fabrics, and Bath and Body Works are all closed. It's pretty much just the nail salon and Dunham's, though there's a Spirit Halloween in the Bon-Ton.

[@sal]

That’s such a shame :(

[@SethDombachProductions]

It’s still there and it’s still dead

[@misscattie7225]

Hmmmm....it's a tie between the snake and the Sumo Twins...my favs, I mean. As to what it's about...NADA! Your video was, as usual, enjoyable and informative!

[@QuietJ0Y]

Thanks for what you do!

[@georjack]

Do you have a mallsoft playlist on spotify

[@Euph0rik9]

Loved the K-mart announcement!

[@chucksluver84]

There are rumors the Giant foods (Carlisle) wants to turn it back into a strip mall making the bon-ton end into a flagship giant foods stores. But since it has been almost 2 years (even with owning the property) that rumor may not be true.

[@jimmywayne983]

"Look son, when Dad was a kid, they made movies without computer animations, they used real stuntmen and.. hmm.. well.. "real" actors" :D

[@cityhawk]

jimmy wayne “And we suffered for it. Forgive us.”

[@youtubeuser9496]

I remember going here as a young lad to visit Santa. I'm not sure if they do that anymore

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Same here, back in the early 90’s.

[@brandonheller7898]

Neato Borrito is not where k-mart was. The middle of lowes is where k-mart was.

[@jasoncarskadon6809]

That bon ton store front is so cool, but it sucks that like many of these malls it won't survive the covid pandemic.

[@LanceUppercut78]

Holy crap! I need "Hard ticket to Hawaii" in my life...NOW!

[@Thunderdome76]

i have them all from walmart! collection is called guns girls and gstrings

[@catrinag.9262]

Haha the commercial for that movie at the beginning a frisbee took off a guys fingers. Ummm I kinda wanna see WTH that movie is. 😆😆😆Great video as always of this particular business. Keep it up

[@jptang1701]

Hard Ticket to Hawaii? Cinemax late night Fridays! Back in the 80's!!!!

[@theIIIamigos]

Some malls seem rather depressing even in their hay days, this is one of them! Either way thanks for your adventures to all these dead malls! The mall culture still seems so cool in its hey days, or is that just me getting older! Either way I can't help but to think how many malls just hanging by a thread especially due to covid and everything else going on.

[@ednarupp1631]

Oh, believe me, this mall was anything but depressing in the eighties when I shopped at the K-B toystore as a little girl. It was full of life, lots of people walking their kids around or sitting on the benches and eating pretzels. And yes, as another poster said, there was a distinct smell for each store--all good ones! But when the nineties came around and the stores started closing. It got depressing indeed. It's on life support now.

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Yeah dude I was there in the late 80’s early 90’s & this mall was always busy & bustling with shoppers. It’s very sad to see how much has changed since...

[@ARTSIEBECCA]

That movie looks AWESOME 👌

[@NathanDavisVideos]

I wonder if the interior of the main hallway of the Shenango Valley Mall used to look JUST LIKE THIS when it first opened?

[@Nuggs1980]

Another gem! ❤ ya Sal

[@RobRobertTheMusicMan]

I forgot how bad that movie was. But the Boom Booms were nice (Borat nice)

[@BDBD16]

15:12 Chick looks like the Russian dodgeball player from Dodgeball, the movie.

[@phyllislindeboom2944]

The Neato Burrito closed.

[@sal]

Nooo!!!! :(

[@ndrupereira]

if it is a dead mall, then there is no POINT

[@mcitaly07]

Description of Hard Ticket to Hawaii per imdb.com Crime, Thriller Hard Ticket to Hawaii (1987) Poster In Hawaii, an undercover DEA agent and her civilian friend stumble upon a drug trafficking operation, and have to enlist the help of all their colleagues/friends to go after the vicious drug kingpin.

[@davidjames666]

i heard about sewer issues before from your videos. do shoppers flush more toilets and make bigger logs or something?

[@crowmigration8245]

Bath and body works, gnc, and burritos lol

[@MNGS717]

And Dunham’s if you need an AK-47

[@SassyFrasponduechu]

I live in Ohio we never had a Bon Ton stores

[@TPRES_74]

Once the big Warehouse job's moved to other areas so did the people. Which affect's everything and everybody around it. Same story you get in every State.

[@MNGS717]

Carlisle has more warehouse jobs than most any other area in the world. The warehouses can be seen from the moon. Multiple days every year there is a color warning for young and elderly to not go outside because of all the diesel smog from all the trucks.

[@295g295]

2:33 Subaru Brat ? 2:42

[@ItsaRomethingeveryday]

Very good 👌👍👌

[@solomonmuhammad4061]

9:16 anybody see a really happy canoe?

[@meepthirteen]

Is that ronnnnn mossssssssss?

[@ARTSIEBECCA]

Why yes it issss ...(80's hair flip)

[@sal]

Lolol

[@kellylermasprague5417]

Yes 😁

[@ezza-and-friends]

Anyone here from Carlisle England

[@gairsxn]

These days it only holds duhmans and a hair cut place

[@jacquesoeuf]

Sal, I have to say your combination of audio and video is unsurpassed. I listen to these tracks by themselves and they mean nothing unless I'm walking through a mall.

[@taimaishu-nao1922]

Oh god… Hard Ticket to Hawaii is the biggest joke amongst locals here. We all are aware of this horrendous abomination of a action/horror flick but in many ways, it’s downright comedic if you take it lightly enough. Also, the snake is fake for a reason. Snakes are illegal in Hawaii, with the only species known here is the brown tree snake which is non-venomous but a invasive pest. Interestingly enough, someone decided to import mongoose to combat the problem not realizing that snakes are sleeping when mongoose are active which is a genuine fact.

[@295g295]

6:45 - Sewer system?

[@ExploreWithPoe]

Somehow i see Dan Bell with his dead mall series

[@erickg3508]

that movie was shite LOL!