Point of Aim vs Point of Impact with Military Surplus RIfles

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Milsurp World

Milsurp World

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@69thPredator
@69thPredator 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sacrificing your shoulder for us.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
For the greater good!
@falconmoose1589
@falconmoose1589 8 жыл бұрын
INDEED!
@charleswalter2902
@charleswalter2902 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, yes That's a shitload of heavy recoil with no padding. I think the .303 kicks like a mule & you shot a whole lot more heavy rounds.
@operatorspongebob4150
@operatorspongebob4150 4 жыл бұрын
@@charleswalter2902 not really, the .303 is the smoothest round ive ever fired, for context i use a MK3 NO.1 lee Enfield rifle
@RickNethery
@RickNethery 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a Beautiful Rifle Collection. Very good Shooting.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@oskawilson7197
@oskawilson7197 6 жыл бұрын
I love the simplicity of a bolt-action rifle.
@416loren
@416loren 5 жыл бұрын
It will never go out of style.
@sanfordhoffman2392
@sanfordhoffman2392 8 жыл бұрын
As you said, I loved the video. All beautiful examples. I can't even pick a favorite. All great rifles. That AZ was very interesting. Good test too.
@XxKINGatLIFExX
@XxKINGatLIFExX 8 жыл бұрын
it's refreshing to see no American bias in this video. Thanks for not going down that path, and being overly subjective about the preformance of American rifles.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I treat all rifles equally. #AllRiflesMatter
@XxKINGatLIFExX
@XxKINGatLIFExX 8 жыл бұрын
North Florida Gun Guy Good man. (Here's some British bias btw lol) where did you get your SMLE Mk3? It's so beautiful. Could you do more videos with that please. Btw, love your style. You are one of the best YTs.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been meaning to use it more. It is in one other video of mine here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmqbnZyra86SjdE
@XxKINGatLIFExX
@XxKINGatLIFExX 8 жыл бұрын
North Florida Gun Guy Thanks!
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 7 жыл бұрын
All excellent rifles for their intended purposes which was to kill and maim. However, no one disputes that the 03 Springfield was a target rifle brought to a battle. His last group is indicative of just how good it really is.
@cavedave1922
@cavedave1922 8 жыл бұрын
Good test, I love military surplus rifles! The History, difference in design and the firepower! What's not to love! I'm new to your channel and looking forward to more! Thanks
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I have a lot more to come!
@ranthonybab8670
@ranthonybab8670 6 жыл бұрын
Man just the video I was looking for. I have a yugo m48 coming in about a week and was going to order a taller front sight. Doesn't seem necessary now. Aiming a little below bulls eye is reasonable. My turk Mauser is a different story though. Thanks.
@droppinplates6665
@droppinplates6665 8 жыл бұрын
love the dark color of your #4 beautiful rifle
@nelsonr1467
@nelsonr1467 8 жыл бұрын
m48 didn't do so bad.
@GunTimez
@GunTimez 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great video, was having some trouble in my K98 video, clears up poa/poi. Thanks!
@MoparManiac
@MoparManiac 6 жыл бұрын
For the Enfield rifles, you can change out the front sight to different heights. the rear notch sight on my SMLE was 200m and was shooting way too high for my 50-100 yard liking. However, I learned that they were zeroed for 200 meters and you can change the front sight to a taller version (Mine was -.30 and I put in a 0) in order to get a closer range accuracy.
@joshuaschatzle6919
@joshuaschatzle6919 2 жыл бұрын
Great test, you should do a video just on you k98k in the near future.
@still.thinkin8997
@still.thinkin8997 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the barrel on the k98 is getting to the end of its life.
@droppinplates6665
@droppinplates6665 8 жыл бұрын
i noticed you were having trouble with your yugo bolt i had this same problem and came to notice that there was a bit of cosmoline in the bolt causing it to be a bit sticky cleaned it out with some gun scrubber and bam one of the slickest actions i have
@stephenmaurer7008
@stephenmaurer7008 8 жыл бұрын
Clean that Yugo with some Ballistol.. Great stuff!! Smoothed out the bolt of my M91/30 and Japanese Arisaka T-38 www.ballistol.com/
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I have a video showing me cleaning the M48 and it was very clean for the shooting. I believe it is a combination of rough machining, finishing and fitting.
@karamelles98
@karamelles98 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. I remember i had troubles understanding the k98 differences from point of aim and point of impact. I have non-matching one- and so far all i know is that it tends to shoot high, in 100 m with 100m setting on sights it shoots about 35 centimeters higher.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 7 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on filming another POA vs POI video with another K98k (a # matching example).
@jackfurbush9216
@jackfurbush9216 2 жыл бұрын
On your 03 just turn the windage knob and you'll zeroed. All of those rifles back in the day were battle zeroed to the medium engagement ranges normally encounterd in ground combat. Soldiers were trained to adjust aim to hit what they shoot ayt
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes they do. Each soldier would sight them in.You have to because each soldiers eyes are different and each one holds the weapon slightly differently. . For instance the French MAS 36 rifle has replaceable rear sight leaves that the armory would replace after an individual sighted in his rifle on a special target. There are replaceable front sights with different heights for the Lee Enfield's as well. There are USA standard sighting in targets for the M1 Garand / M14 and the M16/M4 series of rifles. One favorite topic is what distance to sight in an M4 and what result that gives in hold overs and unders by distance. When I was in the Marines when we were issued a different rifle we would first go zero it, then qualify with that rifle. The USMC armorer at TBS had a self made sight tool for the M9 pistol if we needed to drift the sights on them as well. As far as I know only the Japanese issued sniper rifles pre-sighted in and non user adjustable.
@dennisgoldstar1963
@dennisgoldstar1963 8 жыл бұрын
great idea. I hope you follow up with the M1 garand , M1 carbine, the carcano, Mosin nagant, sks, , and the French rifle...fal?
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I'd love to do a lot more but I only have so many rifles.
@MrDaveinAB
@MrDaveinAB 8 жыл бұрын
An intersting experiment
@jimmyboredom3519
@jimmyboredom3519 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty rad. Ive owned several m48s and they all were good shooters. Ammo dependent obviously. New manufactured soft points can drive tacks. Old 1938 turkish surplus opens up the group quite a bit, but you can hit what you aim at usually
@minuteman-RN
@minuteman-RN 4 жыл бұрын
excellent video! very informative.
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- 6 ай бұрын
Worth pointing out about the belt buckle hold, military belt buckles aren't where modern pant belts are worn, they were worn above hip bones, so the belt buckle itself was closer to just above where your belly button is. Good video though, 8 years old but holds up way better than many other KZbinrs.
@luvtahandload7692
@luvtahandload7692 5 ай бұрын
When I first shot my 1903, it was way high at closer ranges. Then I read somewhere that you're sposed to aim at the belt buckle for a torso hit. Would you consider a decent fore AND aft bag setup? I've discovered a black, inverted "v" makes a very good aim point for most types of iron sights. Thanks for the vid.
@EEProductionsEJW
@EEProductionsEJW 6 жыл бұрын
the kar 98k just sounds so smooth when using the bolt
@chrissloper7348
@chrissloper7348 8 жыл бұрын
Nice collection and video. You might want to think about adding the Swiss K11 and K31 to it. They are fantastic rifles and possibly the best bolt actions ever issued to troops.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I've had my eye on a K31 for a while now. When I see the right one at the right time I will.
@stephenmaurer7008
@stephenmaurer7008 8 жыл бұрын
Well done... I noticed that my Mosin 91/30 and Yugo M24/47 both shoot about 4-6 inches high at 100 yards. Even my T-38 Arisaka groups high at 100 yards. You need a 200 yard rifle range to really appreciate the performance of these rifles. Most public ranges have 100 yrd rifle ranges.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
My personal shooting range goes out to just over 100 yards. I was shooting at 50 meters as that is about the average combat distance.
@CopperKast
@CopperKast 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Yugo M48, tho, the bolt isn’t quite as stiff as yours. It’s a good little rifle especially if your just getting into Mauser actions, since it won’t cost you an arm an’a leg like a decent k98 will
@yeoldegunporn
@yeoldegunporn 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! So helpful!
@bluman5784
@bluman5784 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing buddy
@M95-v4r
@M95-v4r 8 жыл бұрын
" Nothing kicks like the AZ" I guess you haven't tried a M95 Steyr in 8x56R.
@evandaire1449
@evandaire1449 8 жыл бұрын
That's no rifle. It's a shoulder fired sledge hammer.
@anthonyhayes1267
@anthonyhayes1267 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought immediately after he said that
@OldManMontgomery
@OldManMontgomery 4 жыл бұрын
I have. I have two, one Steyr, one Budapest. They recoil like a real rifle, not to confused with an M16. Full power cartridge - a 7.92x57mm infantry round, for instance - and a 'light' (relative term) rifle will give greater recoil. Stock shape has an effect as well.
@kenworthw-ns3gc
@kenworthw-ns3gc 4 жыл бұрын
I know for a fact something is not right with the 1917 wather it's your shots that day with that rifle or the barral is not tight. Because I shot a deer with my 1917 and it hit exactly where I was aiming and the deer was about 50 to 70 yards away and the closest was 30 yards. If I am wrong please tell me thanks
@NB88
@NB88 6 жыл бұрын
My K98 won't hit the target at 100 yards with boat tail ammo but use flat based bullets and it's a 4" group right on the POA. Which were you using?
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 6 жыл бұрын
I used Yugo surplus 8mm.
@NB88
@NB88 6 жыл бұрын
@@MilsurpWorld yes that stuff is boat tail. I reload w 195g hornady SP. Its flat based and what a difference. Thanks for the video.
@guildig1
@guildig1 6 ай бұрын
I own a 8 mm Turkish mauser circa 1943 and never shot it past 100 yards and it hit everything I aimed at with out knowing about all of this.
@droppinplates6665
@droppinplates6665 8 жыл бұрын
very nice collection super cool even half of these rifles would make my freaking day :) love old surplus been gradually collecting them my self over the years but no where near the quality of these one day tho ill have something similar :)
@StalinDidnothingwrong
@StalinDidnothingwrong 8 жыл бұрын
dude just one would make my day no my whole year XD
@retusaforce
@retusaforce 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Thank u.
@OldManMontgomery
@OldManMontgomery 4 жыл бұрын
The reason for the horizontal displacement of shots is he didn't zero the rifle for the ammunition used. All those rifles have 'drift adjustable' front sights, which were intended to zeroed for windage by the user prior to combat use. That those rifles shot 'oddly' is not surprising. Also consider his comment about 'battle sight". The intent was to be able to hit a belligerent out to (check the manual for range) without fiddling with the sights. Milsurp World; this video was worthwhile and did present some useful information. I liked it and encourage this caliber of video. But watching a guy at a bench shoot three round groups from eight rifles back to back was a bit tedious.
@WAQWBrentwood
@WAQWBrentwood 8 жыл бұрын
First military bolt rifle I fired was my Grandfather's '03 Springfield, But later fell in love with the Lee Enfield. I'm a No.4 Mk1 man my self! Cock on closing for speed and 10 rounds, (unfortunately today .303 is an expensive hobby..) Who can ask for more, Rolls Royce of bolt guns! (BTW, this is the opinion of a "Yank".)
@balrajsingh-zp4wq
@balrajsingh-zp4wq 5 жыл бұрын
Good video sir you have very wonderful weapons thank you so much for this video sir
@balkenkreuz2063
@balkenkreuz2063 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, matte. However, I'm surprised you didn't have at least one 91/30 for comparison sake. I'm not complaining. ;)
@aerialheights5680
@aerialheights5680 6 жыл бұрын
My '17 also shoots Left, gonna have to tap it over, until I add a scope. Maybe you should try 6" red dots @ 200m. Great video!
@hardstock07
@hardstock07 8 жыл бұрын
My problem with my Yugo M48 it's little him 3-4 inches from bullls eye ,at 50 yds but it the lever bolt action it's very stiff hard to close, Any suggestions that I can do
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
M48s are known for being stiff. A good cleaning and lubrication is about all you can do. With use it should get better.
@nherrema1
@nherrema1 6 жыл бұрын
Did you remove all the cosmoline from it? Most of those rifles were stored for decades, and that could cause issues if it wasnt fully removed.
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 5 жыл бұрын
the Brits did not issue the M1917, they had an earlier version called the P14. they did, however, use some M1917 under lend lease when they were panicking over WW2 invasion
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 5 жыл бұрын
I said British/American because it's a British design.
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 5 жыл бұрын
@@MilsurpWorld OK, that would explain t
@theblindsniper9130
@theblindsniper9130 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but I'll still point out that I enjoyed it. Fun to watch. Might run a similar test with my surplus, at farther ranges. I'm in North Florida too, and I've got the property for that. Would make a great video for my own channel.
@wilp8074
@wilp8074 5 жыл бұрын
No eye protection - surplus hot gasses (?!) Should have mentioned bullet weight vs POI. But looks like fun!
@cryhavoc9748
@cryhavoc9748 5 жыл бұрын
My open sight Mosin-nagant tends to shoot high at 50yards (3 inches) with the rear sight set as low as it will go. At 100, 300, 600, 800 yards no problem, dead on the money. I guess during WW2 it really didn't matter if you hit the enemy a tad low when you're close enough to smell their bad breath. All I can say is the "old" bolt actions (I own 2 Mausers also) from WW2 will shoot well. Would not want to be downrange while an opposing soldier is trying to perforate my tender body.
@emnhw1comcastnet
@emnhw1comcastnet 8 жыл бұрын
Another excelled vid!
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JsilntParkour90
@JsilntParkour90 4 жыл бұрын
What surplus rifle do you recommend for plinking or for fun shooting? Say for the cost of the rifle and what ammo is cheapest and easiest to find?
@falconmoose1589
@falconmoose1589 8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifles!
@windogendoors7566
@windogendoors7566 7 жыл бұрын
You should do the Type 99
@mastervader1028
@mastervader1028 8 жыл бұрын
I know this is off topic, but I thought the Springfield '03 cocked on closing just like the 1917 Enfield??? I know the Springfield '03A3 cocks on opening, but the one in the video wasn't an A3, just an '03.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
All 1903 variants are cock on opening like 1898 Mausers. 1917s are cock on closing because the British preferred it.
@mastervader1028
@mastervader1028 8 жыл бұрын
I've got a Gew98 that cocks on closing though? According to all the research I've done that's the way it's supposed to be.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
It might be a Mauser 93 action. Swedish Mausers cock on closing for example.
@wreckanchor
@wreckanchor 8 жыл бұрын
For shooting these old surplus guns I use one of those old cheap rubber slip-on recoil pads. Slips on any rifle and take the beating out of shooting these old guns.
@OldManMontgomery
@OldManMontgomery 4 жыл бұрын
The Past (and probably other brands) make a 'recoil shield' one can wear and nothing mounts on the rifle.
@jeffreyg4626
@jeffreyg4626 7 жыл бұрын
i like your channel.Good job.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 7 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey G Thanks!
@jamesbracken4618
@jamesbracken4618 5 жыл бұрын
The Yugo is right on and the Springfield shot the tightest but to the right, good job. GOD BLESS YOU! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! GLORY BE TO GOD!!!
@barryolaith
@barryolaith 4 жыл бұрын
James, would you be OK if I say there is no god, or actually there are lots of gods people believe in, depending largely in what part of the world they were born, and everyone for some reason thinks their god is the correct one, which obviously can't be right. Now, if for the sake of argument we believe there is one god, why would the god bless (whatever that means, do you know what it means?) America and not, say, Papua New Guinea? Or do you want the god to 'bless' all countries, in which case why don't you say that? By the way, are you by any chance American? Do you believe the god should look more favourably on your country compared with others and if so, why? And lastly, this video was about battle sights on old military rifles, why do you bring your god in to it? I'm seeking wisdom and understanding here, although I came for information on old rifles.
@jeremyorr8732
@jeremyorr8732 8 жыл бұрын
no mosin Nagant lol
@WAQWBrentwood
@WAQWBrentwood 8 жыл бұрын
Was hoping for some Mosin-Nagant variant!
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't own a garbage rod anymore.
@ivanrakaric9859
@ivanrakaric9859 8 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha Mosin-Nagant is second class rifle compared to any of these
@nad6492
@nad6492 8 жыл бұрын
finish m39 is the only interesting mosin-nagant variant! a swedish mauser is much better :)
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I actually have a Finnish M39 now. If I do this test again I will include it and a few other rifles I didn't in this test.
@ricardogutierrez-rk6nc
@ricardogutierrez-rk6nc 8 жыл бұрын
hey there i had a quick question. Where can i find a K98k?
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Gunbroker.com
@bullseyedixon5660
@bullseyedixon5660 6 жыл бұрын
great info
@douggreen8244
@douggreen8244 6 жыл бұрын
Why do people do comparison you held the forstock on all but the no4 no flyer when your barrel is jumping all over and shoot higher then the smle really? When both guns wear set up the same for bullet impac
@olecanole8596
@olecanole8596 5 жыл бұрын
Test would have been better if you had fired at the correct targets. Pretty inconclusive as it was.
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 8 жыл бұрын
thanks i subbed you. do yo know where i can get some 8mm ammo for a test like this thanks. keep them coming.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Best place to get surplus 8mm right now is just online.
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 8 жыл бұрын
thanks, gunbroker ?
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I think gunbroker is a bit overpriced but maybe. Just Google it and you should find something.
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 8 жыл бұрын
thanks will do.
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 8 жыл бұрын
Unless I missed it you didn't mention at what distance you zeroed each rifle. Or are you saying the battle sight zero is 300 yards for each?
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
These do not need to be sighted in like civilian rifles, they come that way from the arsenal. The No 4 and 98AZ have 300 yard/meter battle sights, the G98 is marked 400 meters, ect. I say what each sight is when I show the target.
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 8 жыл бұрын
+North Florida Gun Guy I should have replied to this not done a separate note, sorry. While a sight may have battle sight zero distances you still have to zero it personally at that distance. You can zero a rifle in at any distance, though you should zero it so that the range gradations then correspond to those distances.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
400+ meter ranges in Florida are pretty rare so I haven't fired them at that range if that's what you are asking.
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 8 жыл бұрын
+North Florida Gun Guy yes, not surprised, but usually you can zero for a longer range by using an offset and a shorter range target. For instance the Army does its battle sight 300 yards zeroing on a 25 meter target with an offset. Frank Proctor talks about getting a 5.56 50/200 yard zero by shooting at 10 yards and computing the offset (his was 1.9"). So you aim at a circle at 10 yards and expect a group to be above that at 1.9" if it is, you are zeroed for 50/200 yards, if not adjust your sights and shoot again. You are effectively doing this exercise. Assuming your rifle is zeroed at 400 meters, shooting at 50 produced the offset we see on your target. But that's only valid if those rifles are correctly zeroed and after 100? years the chance that the sights have been altered is pretty good.
@jeremyorr8732
@jeremyorr8732 8 жыл бұрын
which had the best trigger in your opinion
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
They are all pretty similar 2-stage triggers. I couldn't tell you which is my favorite honestly.
@arl0xen551
@arl0xen551 5 жыл бұрын
Let me introduce you to our lord and savior, Limbsaver. Making me wince a bit. Great video! I came for the Mauser content and stayed for the rest.
@thesmokinggun8674
@thesmokinggun8674 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks helpful:) How would one adjust kar 98 az front sights?
@OldManMontgomery
@OldManMontgomery 4 жыл бұрын
Only adjustable for windage; should be able to 'drift' the front sight from side to side. I use a brass rod and a small ball-peen hammer. If the rifle was seriously out of elevation, most sights (military issue) could be replaced with a taller or shorter blade to correct that aspect. Some were 'judiciously' filed.
@cosmolineandgritsforbreakf3795
@cosmolineandgritsforbreakf3795 7 жыл бұрын
Its crazy thinking even In ww2 they where still battle zeroing at 300m
@dnhman
@dnhman 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this test gave me a real good insight on the battle sights. What was your aim point? 6 or center of the target?
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Center of target. Thanks for watching.
@dennishein2812
@dennishein2812 4 жыл бұрын
Yea the 1917 needs some adjusting with a punch. Mine is a whole lot more accurate than that.
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 8 жыл бұрын
Also, thanks for doing this, great video and nice collection, interesting info. But no eye pro? Not good. Stuff happens, save your eyes!
@hardstock07
@hardstock07 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, very, very stiff to close my lever action, I am glad that this rifle is not my go to depend on my life! I am glad I have auto semi's- 308, .556 that I can use, even preferred to use my Big Boy Henry .44magnum or my Winchester 30-30!
@stephanstrickland6373
@stephanstrickland6373 8 жыл бұрын
I believe the not is a 200 battle sight. at least mine is. But I would say those guns are not sighted for your eye. All around good video
@markpoffinbarger9207
@markpoffinbarger9207 3 жыл бұрын
All of them kick like a mule
@MashedJoetatoes
@MashedJoetatoes 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think that the Kar98k had the best rechamber sound for the bolt?
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I think you might be right.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they thought that shooting where you aim was a bad idea? They found out that they had to make head shots during WW1 but didn't change for WW2 etc. Go figure.
@markpoffinbarger9207
@markpoffinbarger9207 3 жыл бұрын
Used to be 6:00 clock
@Plainsimple67
@Plainsimple67 5 жыл бұрын
100 METER WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT, WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE HOW GOOD THEY WOULD HAVE GROUPED AS WELL!!!
@brentyoung7356
@brentyoung7356 8 жыл бұрын
I just sand the rear sight down on high shooting milsurp rifles. I have tried putting shrink wrap on the front sight. Shrink wrap doesn't hold up very long. I have a 91/30 that will hit a 2 1/2 sticker every time with Winchester 180gr sp ammo. I have seen people shoot milsurp ammo I was so impressed you cannot give me a can of milsurp ammo. I shoot for fun. Shooting 3 or 4 inch groups is not fun.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Generally, collectors frown upon any permanent modifications done to historical firearms. The rifles are meant to shoot high.
@brentyoung7356
@brentyoung7356 8 жыл бұрын
If you or any collector can tell that I modified the rear sight without another sight for comparison I will give the rifle to you. My gunsmith is a retired tool and die maker for Colt. I fixed a 91/30 rear sight to suit him. You have to do some slick work to impress him. Rifles are meant to shoot where you set the point of impact. My 91/30 is a 1930 Tula with a hex receiver and a laminated stock.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Oh okay, I imagined something rough looking when I pictured a sanded rear sight. You should make a video showing what you did. Might make an interesting topic.
@brentyoung7356
@brentyoung7356 8 жыл бұрын
It's pretty simple I used a belt sander to cut the sight base down. I ruined the first sight base with a cut off wheel. A regular carpenters belt sander naturally walks down the angled part. Then when you get to the bottom just let back of the sander down. Give it a try! You will see that it is easier than falling off a log. You do not need to remove the sight base from the gun. I actually set my sight base at the range.
@llib51
@llib51 8 жыл бұрын
my dad had powder blowback in his face shooting a K 98. His glasses saved his vision.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
What ammo was he using? Are you sure it was a K98? There are many design elements of the bolt to keep such a thing from happening as Paul Mauser himself lost an eye from test firing.
@llib51
@llib51 8 жыл бұрын
+North Florida Gun Guy he brought back from Germany so I'm not sure. I was young and remember vividly setting the gun down and the powder black on his face except where his glasses covered.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling something was wrong either with the ammo for the rifle but I do not think it was a Mauser. Watch C&Rsenal's video on the Gewehr 98 and you can see how the bolt is designed to stop that.
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Do you still have the rifle?
@llib51
@llib51 8 жыл бұрын
+North Florida Gun Guy brother does. I haven't seen it for 30 plus years
@christopherkoenig9557
@christopherkoenig9557 3 жыл бұрын
you know that all of those rifles would have been shot with the bayonet attached? It changes the point of impact. Some of those rifles had different bayonet lengths IE: 1903 had a 10" and almost 20" that were used at the same time, changes point of impact also. I agree with the others, something is wrong with the k98k, US 1917 and 1903. Where is the ear and eye protection???? setting a bad example.
@danshady09
@danshady09 4 жыл бұрын
lucky you didnt pull out the mosin, i would be a bit unfair
@pgtmg624
@pgtmg624 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Please thank you shoulder for me
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davidpotter8722
@davidpotter8722 6 жыл бұрын
My first wife could hit a 50 cent piece at 50 yards, 2 shots out of 3 with that 1917 , and it was her first shots in her life .
@j.rob.5943
@j.rob.5943 5 жыл бұрын
Cool story bro
@chriskelly509
@chriskelly509 6 жыл бұрын
My 1917 shoots POA at 100 yards, my 03a3 shoots 12" high at 100 yards...
@Paches92-
@Paches92- 8 жыл бұрын
No mosin :(
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
No, I didn't have a garbage rod available at the time of this video.
@falconmoose1589
@falconmoose1589 8 жыл бұрын
Yep, doesn't belong with these masterpieces.
@katana258
@katana258 8 жыл бұрын
or your scared it would out shoot them .. you might not like the looks of them , but it was on the winning side in ww-2 and killed a hell of lot of nazi .[ even the finns seemed to enjoy doing it to the russians ].that said a test with out one seems a dodge [ not the car ] .. shame ..i am not saying they are great ..but work and should of been in the test, along with a swiss , 6.5 swede , ya hate to say it a carcano 6.5 [ well it did wonders in dallas in 1963 , with magic bullets ] ..fine test other wise .
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Roy Rodriguez Send me one and I'll test it.
@Paches92-
@Paches92- 8 жыл бұрын
mosins are cheap and cheap to shoot, but i doubt they can out shoot a lee enfield or mauser, and ive handled all three. I own a mosin and mauser, i just wish my uncle would sell me his lee enfield!
@m1911legend
@m1911legend 4 жыл бұрын
If you shot more than 153 grain ammo out of your ww1 mausers you might not have been getting accurate results since these were not sighted for 196 grain later rounds like the k98k and the m48
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 4 жыл бұрын
That's true.
@m1911legend
@m1911legend 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilsurpWorld wow i didnt think you would answer so quickly on such an old video ! Keep up the good work
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! All comment come up the same on my phone no matter how old the video. I read all the comments I get.
@ThatPNWGuy2024
@ThatPNWGuy2024 3 жыл бұрын
Well you’re shooting a variety of calibers. Some of which are more flat shooting than others. Maybe if you had gone into the ballistics of each round this may be a more accurate video...
@bigboybouie9625
@bigboybouie9625 8 жыл бұрын
Was this guy even using hearing or eye protection? Tsk tsk tsk
@mikec8086
@mikec8086 7 жыл бұрын
looks like he was using ear plugs but no glasses.
@my_name_is_chef4856
@my_name_is_chef4856 6 жыл бұрын
I've shot guns my whole 37 year old life without glasses and have been fine.
@j.rob.5943
@j.rob.5943 5 жыл бұрын
My_Name_Is_ Chef until you’re not
@rickyny78
@rickyny78 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a new subscriber and I enjoy your videos a lot. Next time you shoot a bolt action rifle, try using your palm to manipulate the bolt, instead of grasping it. It makes a big difference. Watch this video starting at 6:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2Klap9rpM2If6s
@iac4357
@iac4357 7 жыл бұрын
No Carcano ?!
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 7 жыл бұрын
No, I could not have every rifle in the world in this video.
@johnwaddell4107
@johnwaddell4107 2 жыл бұрын
@@MilsurpWorld you could have but you would be broke and still shooting!😂😂😂😈😇I couldn’t resist😂😂😈
@kevinstocum4321
@kevinstocum4321 8 жыл бұрын
punish thy shoulder
@jeremyorr8732
@jeremyorr8732 8 жыл бұрын
Lol the mosin not that bad
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
I used to own a M44 and have felt many 91/30s and they all feel terrible to me. I've been meaning to get a Finnish M38 but I haven't run across a good deal yet.
@jeremyorr8732
@jeremyorr8732 8 жыл бұрын
Classicfirearms.com has a few I believe still
@MilsurpWorld
@MilsurpWorld 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but I like finding good deals on stuff. To me it's not worth the 400 + shipping + transfer.
@humanspopular2189
@humanspopular2189 4 жыл бұрын
just k98
@xtrythis1170
@xtrythis1170 6 жыл бұрын
That makes me so glad I traded my M48 for a swedish mauser.. don't miss that steel buttplate kicking the sh*t out of me after a few rounds! Lol. You tha man!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great Channel. I have several of these rifles myself. I collect old military stuff including guns. If you get a chance, check out my channel/videos. Thanks
@jasongageburke5445
@jasongageburke5445 5 жыл бұрын
Gewher needs wd40
@davidpotter8722
@davidpotter8722 6 жыл бұрын
You are a Klutz who shoots at the wrong target one third of the time . Just give up or watch Iraqi veteran.
@nherrema1
@nherrema1 6 жыл бұрын
Why don't you buy a bunch of surplus rifles and remake this video? Or are you too lazy/poor?
@urmum1959
@urmum1959 6 жыл бұрын
So you're saying Battlefield 1 isn't 100% historically accurate even though it's a video game?
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