Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow: Creepypasta Save Files

when the save file is sus
big thanks to theZZAZZglitch, i used the source code of their cancelled 2020 april fools event in order to be able to compile things into a save file. i cant believe i didnt mention that in the main video i was just in such a hurry to get this uploaded before the end of the day and somehow i missed that im really sorry zzazz. theZZAZZglitch is an absolute genius and you need to be watching their videos if you arent already:
/ thezzazzglitch
oh yea and i also used the text engine that zzazz uses in their april fools events that prints text in a non-monospace font for the text in the misfortune save file i cant believe i didnt say that in the main video i am not a good person
-- BURIED ALIVE --
Save file: www.dropbox.com/sh/0rgr1x4z8z...
QueenKami's DeviantArt profile: www.deviantart.com/queenkami
Original story: creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/B...
Original story (also): creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/W...
No commentary source footage: • buried alive
UPDATE v1.1 [11/9/2021] - fixed an issue with a certain text box. BIG thanks to MLVXD, for his help with translation. check him out here!!: / @mlvxd
-- BLUE TEARS --
Save file: www.dropbox.com/s/pxaulwvn8zz...
Original story: creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/B...
No commentary source footage: • blue tears
-- MISFORTUNE --
Save file: www.dropbox.com/s/4ll5shmvxgu...
Original story: creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/M...
Original story (extension): wtfhashappenedtogames.blogspot...
No commentary source footage: • misfortune
0:00 intro
0:44 buried alive
7:11 buried alive - game over
9:12 blue tears
15:22 misfortune
17:37 misfortune - game over
18:26 outro

[@KamiSamaSensei]

Thank you so much for all your kindness in this project. I've been met with as much criticism as I've been met with praise for making those three sprites all those years ago lol Your video is also very well put together-keep it up! ♥♥

[@Peelster1]

Did you come up with the design for the White Hand sprite or did you just recreate it from the images on the creepypasta wiki? Either way, good job.

[@KamiSamaSensei]

@@Peelster1 I came up with it myself years ago while I saw still in highschool, though I reached out to the creepypasta wiki a couple of years ago to add credit to the site, which I believe they did! However, I still don't actually know who wrote the original story.

[@MercuryDragon.]

Mhm.

[@SKOT_3]

Honestly for the era and even now they hold up pretty well, fitting well with the original game's style despite being things you'd never see on one of them.

[@donowa5637]

is the game over sprite based off saturn devouring his son? the posing and expression on buryman's face reminds me of that painting a lot

[@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121]

Crazy to think we've actually reached a point where you can essentially do rom hacks on the save files without needing to modify the actual rom. These seem really cool especially that last one.

[@derthevaporeon]

That Blue sprite at the end of Blue Tears was bone chilling...

[@sparklingdemon]

the fact that this can all be done without rom hacking is absolutely wild!!! rad to see representation for blue tears - the custom sprites of red and blue's decaying bodies are genuinely chilling! thank you for your hard work, this stuff is incredible!

[@nessdbest8708]

Blue Tears is the best in my opinion the raw brutality of it in action is crazy.

[@1Hol1Tiger]

The Gary facing the camera thing was... *whistles* actually scared me

[@nessdbest8708]

Blue*@@1Hol1Tiger

[@VTWS]

Red is also a very resilient man, how may stabs lol

[@notebeans3134]

the backwards music is really cool i dont know much about this but that's definitely gotta be hard to get working

[@Cello2WC]

i said its "non-trivial" because its not like with sampled audio where you can just play the same data in reverse. in truth it wasnt that much harder than implementing any other custom song (like the songs for misfortune), it was just a little confusing figuring out how to write the song data. for example, the solitary notes at the beginning have a length of 4 normally, but, in addition to putting them in the reverse order and making them fade in instead of out, i had to put length 3 rests in between the notes and change their lengths to 1 because, in the original theme, the notes fade out way before the next note plays. idk if that made sense im kinda rambling here.

[@SleepyAdam]

I've always had a soft spot for misfortune but blue tears definitely got the most intense reaction out of me. Probably because I had never read the story. Intense.

[@DarkDashV6]

Decided to subscribe after seeing this and the "Ghost of Glitch City" video. I love how there's a bit of added humor into some videos beyond simply showing the glitches themselves, or in this case some good text commentary to accompany the visuals. Even if you're only uploading once a year on Halloween, would love to see more from you in the future. Great work you've been doing here.

[@crabman5420]

Yes please, continue to work on Misfortune!! It's honestly one of my favourite "pokemon" creepypastas (and I love that it was created like something you can find in other game cartridges too), and one of the few I thought was real when I was younger! I would love to see your work once it's done!!

[@AubyIsReal]

In Blue tears Red somehow survives as the end of text says he is watching him and he will still meet him in when it all over

[@donowa5637]

no its talking to the player

[@siduri6171]

You did an absolutely incredible job with these!

[@weewooweewo]

I'm glad you're back posting. 💛

[@JaybugJabbers]

Fantastic job. These are so well implemented. I'm especially excited about Misfortune.

[@Cyorg13]

It's crazy you can do all this with just a save file now.

[@Brax64]

14:10 It's actually kinda funny seeing a screamer in a game boy rom. I think you did a fantastic job with blue tears and the ending to buried alive, couldn't imagine how hard it'd be to mimic how songs sound in reverse rather than just putting the notes in reverse. As for blue tears, it's kinda obvious the GB is struggling to handle an almost completely uncontrollable cut scene like that. Although misfortune wasn't completed,m I like what you did with it, my only complaint is that (primarily with the text box and select menus) they're not in the same style as pokemon yellow, but everything else is. Never read to misfortune so idk how accurate your recreation is in that regard. It's amazing how you were able to pull all of this off without needing to hack the rom!

[@horrible_taste89]

WOW..... HOLY. This is really awesome!!! It's really nice to see you back and taking your time to make this 3 masterpieces (ofc the last one is still in progress but ik that it will just as amazing as the other ones) Thank you for all your hard work. I hope to see "Misfortune" finished.

[@NatnatGaming101]

My words express about how much I love the possibility this can really get. I'm like the person who's more interested with good gaming creepypastas like these have REAL gameplay rather than reading and imagining how it happens in the story. Your efforts have put a smile on my face.

[@lupinoh]

Man, that's an incredible work! Amazing, i love it!

[@LeafyJolt]

Amazing job! This really brought these awesome creepypastas to a reality! 😁🥇

[@DarkDashV6]

Coming back to this again for Halloween this year. Just wanted to say that I appreciate this video, and others you've done just like it, even more now as someone who plans on getting into making videos in the next year. Appreciate how these really do seem to just be fun little projects you've done, rather than something you do for money.

[@Cello2WC]

i know this comment's a year old, but i'm just scrolling thru the comments on my stuff and this one hit me in the fuzzies. i'm excited to see what you come up with for your videos! even if they're not in my niche, i love seeing people discuss things they're passionate about. back when i uploaded ghost of glitch city, i made a promise to myself that i wouldnt monetize my videos so that people wouldnt have to deal with annoying ads just to see my silly little projects. of course, youtube updates in the last seven years have sort of borked that plan, but i still dont monetize my stuff because i want to work for the sake of passion, not money. i'm not a fan of money as a concept in general. not that i claim to know enough about economics to propose an alternative, i've just seen the sorts of things people do for the sake of money, and how profit motives suck the soul out of art over time. in short, i work on these sorts of projects all the time, with money being the absolute last thing on my mind. heck, a recent project of mine resulted in a net loss of around $240, with absolutely nothing in place to gain any money back, just to "fit the vibe" better. i know i'm rambling at this point, sorry about that. i just care a lot about not putting profit ahead of my love for my projects. i appreciate your kind words.

[@lemons38]

Alex defeated BURIEDALIVE! BURIEDALIVE: "no u" *crashes the game*

[@Videogamejunkie443]

The Blue Tears save can also be used with Pokémon Red. It didn't work when I tried it with Pokémon Yellow, though...

[@SnoozeCruisin]

this was so cool! i’ll be following your channel with interest

[@Kupomasters57]

So blue tears is simple. Blue kills red for taking away his title,killing his Pokémon so he kills red and then himself. Interesting.

[@maniacgreen8609]

Can red fight back?

[@MortenLongbottom]

The first one, Buried Alive, actually was the real story of the fifth gym leader, and it was supposed to be Erika to be a dead corpse being controlled by her Pokemon that missed her, such as Vileplume and Tangela (No Victreebell, because it was supposed to be a ghost gym leader). And when she was defeated it was revealed that she actually was just an empty shell.

[@LethalLaurie]

Seems like a creepypasta that spawned from the fact that her yukata was originally drawn backwards (folded in the way reserved for dead bodies) - imaginative but, like Buryman, it seems just a liiiittle too overtly grimdark and edgy (seriously, mourning grief-stricken Pokémon puppeteering their trainer's corpse?) for a game aimed at/starring elementary school kids.

[@MortenLongbottom]

@@LethalLaurie check what it was found in the Beta files, the first Pokemon seemed not for kids, even the protagonist was older.

[@LeatherIceCream]

These are a real treat, this makes me very happy.

[@bobstevenson3130]

This is incredible! I really hope you finish misfortune someday, it looks amazing so far

[@CesarTorres61296]

Jesus that Buried Alive Fight was Tense

[@carlyndollar9596]

The Blue Tears recreation was quite good! Did you create the sprites yourself?

[@Cello2WC]

i sure did!! though, they were all based on sprites from game freak; blues backsprite was based on this sprite from the credits of frlg: m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Rival_Blue.png

[@EternumTagerMain]

What happens if you attempt to toss the knife in your inventory in Blue Tears?

[@Cello2WC]

it gives you the usual "That's too important to toss!" message. but if you somehow do get rid of the knife via memory editing or whatever, then it still shows up during the battle scene cause everything in that scene is fake. im just drawing predetermined stuff to the screen for that whole part.

[@dylanzlol7293]

@@Cello2WC what happens if you dont fly to mt. silver right away and instead just speak with the people from lavender town?

[@Cello2WC]

hey, you could always download the save and try for yourself if youre really curious!! but ill just tell you the answer: as stated in the story, overworld movement is disabled as soon as you step out of the tower. it might be possible to wait for the "white hand on your shoulder" girl to walk in front of you, but i never bothered to change any dialogue

[@ExoticFoxy]

@@Cello2WC tutorial how to make hack rom pokepasta (You will get alot of views)

[@Cello2WC]

@@ExoticFoxy im not sure that a tutorial would be all that useful, considering its very much different depending on what exact story youre looking to implement.... i think the best i can do is tell you to head over to the pret pokered disassembly and download it: github.com/pret/pokered from there you can modify whatever files you want and then recompile the game! i cant imagine that making a ROM hack would be easy if youre not familiar with assembly programming and the hardware limitations of the game boy. the pandocs should help you out there: gbdev.io/pandocs/ and hey, how about an opcode table as well. thats how _i_ learned assembly, at least: www.pastraiser.com/cpu/gameboy/gameboy_opcodes.html

[@greenknight9000]

These are all absolutely incredible! Though I have to admit, "Blue Tears", although accurate to the source material, when shown visually, you realise it could've been a lot better; for starters, it is a headscratcher as to why Red didn't fight back, or at least use his Pokémon to defend him. It could've been Blue frantically fighting back against the painful flamethrowers of Red's Charizard, or the almost crippling thunderbolts of his Pikachu, and so on. Eventually, it'd be that Blue would be overwhelmed, with Red using "DISARM" and take Blue's knife away. When it seems like Red's about to completely subdue Blue, he uses "STRUGGLE", which actually sends them both tumbling off the Mt. Silver cliff, with selecting ATTACK now acting sort of like Bind or Wrap where no other moves can be selected, and it instead shows how many turns are left before impact, which in that time Blue almost acts like his old self again, all smug and calm as he gloats that he'll be the one to have the last laugh, and that the look on Red's face will be one he'll fondly remember in hell, which he'll accept with open arms as no amount of pain and agony will drive away the joy he feels in this very moment. Finally, upon reaching 1 Turn Until Impact, Blue gives some parting words to his dear old rival, ending it off with a "Smell ya later, Red." followed by a thud sound and a black screen, though for a few frames before it cuts to black, those skeletal sprites are shown before it seemingly cuts to an RST 38 crash (though this _is_ a fake) - a textbox appears, that being Blue's final thoughts: "The moment before I hit the ground, everything, everyone and beyond flashed before me as I heard that nuisance give the only sound worthy of him ever making: that being his bones shattering on the sharp stone floor below; immediately after this heavenly crunch came my own bones in the next moment before emptiness swallowed my soul whole. It was over. My revenge is complete, and I have no regrets and, for the first time in so long, I feel like I'm happy again. The humiliation you gave me, the pain you've put me through... ...I'll pay it back even harder when we see each other in hell, Red. My suffering is over at long last, but for you, my dear RIVAL? It's only just begun. See you soon."

[@springystarscout]

thank you SO MUCH for making these! time to finally grab myself a joey jr to play these physically hehe

[@springystarscout]

also, are you planning to make a Strangled Red file by any chance? funnily enough my copy of Red I ordered came with “scratches” on the Charizard’s neck (rips on the label, but still eerily close)

[@Cello2WC]

cello2wc.com/secrets.png that said, i decided to make it as a ROM hack rather than a save file due to the sheer scope of the project (the fact that it requires new dialogue for every npc being the main reason). also because strangled red changes the title screen and the file load screen, while, in an SRAM hack like these, i can only run code _after_ the player loads into the save file....... my strangled red project has also sort of fallen onto the back burner so to speak....... ive recently been much more focused on my GBC port of Petscop.

[@springystarscout]

@@Cello2WC ah alrighty; I love how that title screen looks!

[@PlantLollmao]

Why the fuck is Misfortune gameover theme such a banger? I am Tails.EXE.

[@yellowcaballerofan110]

Those types of creepypastas are my favorite

[@gomezaaron926]

Thank you,i can finally beat buried alive,not only in a fire Red hack or in FNF,in this version it's the version i want it

[@ChickasaurusGL]

Nice! ^^

[@Cello2WC]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi chickasaurus!!!!! im glad you like my dumb little thing!!!!!!! ive been watching your videos for a good few years now and the things that you and zzazz and crystal_ do with ace were pretty much the whole reason i started learning gb assembly in the first place so i could try to do that kinda stuff myself!! sorry im trying to not go into full fangirl mode but i dont think im succeeding in general, thank you for everything you do

[@ChickasaurusGL]

@@Cello2WC You're welcome, it was fun and well made too. :] Aww thanks so much!! ^^

[@kavenewell72]

Wait... are these save files??? Wow... it's so amazing... how do people do this?I'd love a rom, but... it's kind of sweet too.

[@SmeddyTooBestChannel]

the buried alive game over screen feels more like what it would've actually have been if they, for god knows whatever reason, implemented it

[@SmeddyTooBestChannel]

also yeah misfortune you basically need to make a whole-ass game for which i cannot imagine is a trivial process doing savegame hacking lmao

[@Lassoloc]

this is really fun, did you use 8F arbitrary code execution for this? also, a subtle detail but white hand's cry is very well done

[@Cello2WC]

8F woulda only been useful if i had been setting everything up in-game, which i decided was waaay too much of a hassle. what i actually did was i gutted the source code for TheZZAZZGlitch's scrapped 2020 april fools event, until i was left with just the code that compiles the rgbasm files into a save file. then i just wrote everything in rgbasm sorta like if i were making a ROM hack. the custom code was run thru a combination of map script hijacking and OAM DMA hijacking. i did, however, use _4F_ in the blue tears file, for the "KNIFE" item. i used an OAM DMA hijack to overwrite the tiles for the item's name, and 4F handled printing the text for when you use the item. i didnt use 8F, because 8F runs code from your party data, and blue needed to have the specific party of a single pidgeot. and about white hand's cry...... you might find it interesting that the white hands are actually magneton! i decided to use magneton because they use the græy palette, and have the same base cry as ghastly. i overwrote their type data so that, in battle, theyre treated as ghost/normal. i suppose it woulda been possible for me to specify a completely custom cry, but it was much easier for me to use the pokémon's normal cry, and then modify the pitch and length parameters. you can actually hear magneton's normal cry for like a frame before the OAM DMA hijack code overwrites the pitch and length values, but i liked the way that it sounded so i didnt bother fixing it.

[@squiskereebicussporfle4564]

@@Cello2WC How do you actually do that lol? I keep getting errors like "Section "SRA2"'s fixed address 0xa000 is outside of range [0; 0x7fff]" when I try to run build.py in the main folder of the Github repository (without changing anything else, just to see what the unfinished save file itself is like)

[@Cello2WC]

@@squiskereebicussporfle4564 i had to use an old version of RGBDS, before that range check was implemented. ive been using version 0.3.10, though im not sure exactly what version implemented the check; iirc i just picked that version because it was the most recent as of april 2020 then, in build.py, i changed ret = os.system("rgbasm -o bin/main.obj main.asm") to ret = os.system("../../../../../rgbds-0.3.10-linux/rgbasm -o bin/main.obj main.asm") so that i didnt have to install the old version of RGBDS system-wide. (obviously, youll need to change that path to whatever path leads to wherever youre keeping the old version of RGBDS)

[@Cello2WC]

i just re-compiled the original fools2020 just to make sure that there wasnt anything else you need to do: you need to put a copy of an rgbbin folder in the same directory as build.py (i dont actually remember where i got this folder i just copied it from my working version of the source code lmao i think it was somewhere on ZZAZZ's github????) and then you also need to create an empty folder named "bin" in the same directory

[@CesarTorres61296]

@@Cello2WC I knew that cry sounded familiar!

[@StarFall78]

man, i'm not even seeing the hacks yet but i'm already enamored by the editing of this intro's editing, great job!

[@Cello2WC]

the funny part is, this video was edited in imovie, just 'cause it came with my computer. i had to fight the editing software the whole way through this video.... suffice to say, i think i'll be using blender for my future videos.

[@StarFall78]

@@Cello2WC dang, respect^100

[@StarFall78]

btw, is it the same blender as in the 3d software? or seperate?

[@Cello2WC]

yeah, same program. my understanding is that it's intended to be a full suite for every step in the creation of 3d animated movies, from modeling, to texturing, to animating, to rendering, to editing. but you can use the tools it provides for each step in the process individually just fine for video game modeling or video editing or whatever

[@StarFall78]

@@Cello2WC that is MAD, how tf is blender free with everything that it can do??

[@PlantLollmao]

Misfortune Game over theme is a bop.

[@nicholassgourakis6020]

Okay. So I attempted to write the buried alive save file onto my pokemon red cartridge to experience this on real hardware. However the trainer and game over sprites appear glitchy like missingno but the buried alive sprite appears normally.

[@user-wx6qj5iw7h]

The video is great!! I love that music , you can give me a playlist please?

[@CommanderBroShep]

These are really well done. For Blues Tears, I l'd probably move his back sprite so it's on the center of the text box when it shows his dead look.

[@VTWS]

Guess it makes sense the person who made the gen1 creepypasta sprites would have Gengar as her fave pokemon

[@OctoomyYTOfficial]

next thing to do: get a shit ton of reproduction carts flash the games onto them put the save on it resell them on ebay or something On a serious note, it’s actually better crafted then most rom hacks.

[@cybershroom9240]

You know in retrospect, Buried Alive wouldn't been THAT much of a stretch to be in the game. Like design wise it isn't too insane or above an E rating, Earthbound and Dragon Quest infact had actual zombies which arguably looked more gross. The Game Over screen of course wouldn't been a thing but I totally could've seen Pokemon in their first game having the topic of zombies or a ghost pokemon controlling a corpse

[@Steven-qr2gn]

"PIKACHU PIKA" Moment before disaster

[@oliviaanderson6249]

Blue tears remind me of mother 3 when Claus goes fight for the drago

[@SilentRealm6677]

Also i wonder if there's gonna be forgotten red save file based on creepypasta with same name because i finished gen 1 version of new bark town

[@ssj99lucario]

There is one thing I don't understand about "Buried Alive" crashing. If i'm not mistaken, wouldn't the winning line be blank/skipped or default to the previous trainer without crashing? Just wondering since the same outcome would happen if you "Trainer-Fly" or "Cinnabar-Cost" a battle, and they usually skip (Expecially the Prof. Oak battle(s), Chief, and the Ultima fights, which I know personally since i did them all the time)

[@dylanzlol7293]

well, idk, maybe in-universe (like yknow the world of the og creepypasta) Buried Alive crashes because it's meant to show a cutscene but the Pkmn devs didnt finish it in time?

[@toadskywalker6417]

The last rom hack kinda looks like a legend of Zelda game

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow: Creepypasta Save Files momentum 100

[@cloud_s_97]

Blue tears, that's an interesting one...

[@Gio-mc8gu]

the weird thing is that i downloaded the save file but while i was playing the sprite of white hand didnt show up instead a missingno appear replacing the sprite in question it is normal this? is this a bug or something? is not a complain is just a doubt

[@megustajugarleagueoflegend140]

When murdering red in the second hackrom, it could be a better idea that Blue keep stabbing red even after his bar goes to zero.

[@mecagoentodostusputosmuertos]

Is there a way I can use my own party against Buried Alive? Since I played and it turned out it has your party used in the vid.

[@SKOT_3]

At least Red died in his cool ass pose.

[@Birtheater4545]

Will you ever make a strangled red save file? That would be sweet and pretty legendary

[@Cello2WC]

i was looking into re-creating strangled red, though as a ROM hack rather than a save file due to the sheer amount of new content (new dialogue for every NPC, etc.). besides, a ROM hack fits the story better anyway since its supposed to take place on a hacked cartridge iirc. it'll be a while before i start any serious work on it, since i have quite a few other projects and commissions i need to wrap up first. but strangled red is, indeed, on my list

[@Birtheater4545]

⁠@@Cello2WCthat’s alright, I’ve already been waiting a couple of years for a ROM hack to surface so I don’t mind waiting a bit more. Also, I created an analog horror video using your save file for misfortune. I hope you like what I did with the lore/story!

[@YouareDEDnotbigSurprise]

Love the intro music, did you make it for this video?

[@vincentfitzgerald9738]

excuse me but how do get the save file to run on my emulator im using retro arch and if cant do it on retro arch what are you using to play the saves

[@Peelster1]

For Misfortune, do you have flags checking all of the conditions are met to trigger it? Like if you talk to someone again you aren't supposed to talk to it disables it? Or if you don't talk to someone who you were supposed to talk to? Also, the old man missing the pokemon was supposed to be rare. Is that set on a random chance or a guarantee? Or does the ROM just skip the setup steps completely? Edit: Answered my own question. The save file starts right before you talk to the guy. However, if you do go battle the 1st Bug Catcher on Route 6, it will no longer work. Nice touch. I would still be interested in a version where you need to play through the whole setup process, but it wouldn't be able to be a save file edit at that point as you would have to start from new game. Maybe a save that starts from as close to the beginning of the game as possible to still work. The only other thing about the story extension is that the old man is mandatory in Yellow, where the tutorial can be skipped in Red and Blue. Also in Red and Blue, the tutorial can be repeated, where it cannot in Yellow. This change was done by GameFreak to prevent the Old Man Glitch where you Fly to Cinnabar Island immediately after talking to him and Surf on the coastline to find Missingno. The story also mentioned "if you picked Pikachu", Brock will be more difficult. In Yellow you are forced to have Pikachu, Red and Blue are the only gen 1 games where you pick your starter. I am thinking that you may be able to use less memory if you make the Misfortune section you are writing to mono-color like it is in the screenshots from the wiki. I only know that the more colors / pixels used in an image file, the more space is taken up. If you have the same area in an image file, but it is all the same color, vs if it is has many colors, the colorful file, despite having the same number of pixels will take up more space. However, I also realize that how file size works on a computer vs how memory space works on a cartridge / emulated cartridge may differ quite a bit. Maybe can tell the payload to overwrite other areas of Pokemon Yellow. The music is pretty good as well. Looking forward to seeing this complete.

[@Cello2WC]

i did as little as i could get away with for the part before you load into misfortune, so that i could save as much space as possible for misfortune itself. the idea is supposed to be that someone went through all of the setup steps and then saved the game right before talking to the final NPC, and that _that_ save file is the one that youre downloading. so, no, there isnt any code that actually checks whether the setup was completed. its meant to be implied that all that was already done for you. i was planning to distribute the finished save file with a little readme note that makes this clearer: www.cello2wc.com/secret/readme-distr-v2.txt i suppose that i should overwrite the badge graphics in the trainer card at least, it wouldnt be much different than what i did for the trainer card in blue tears... but i think ill only do that if i have enough space left once the rest of the file is finished. in gameboy games, and indeed for many other consoles like the nes, snes, and ps1, color data is stored completely separately from image data itself. thats why you see so many instances of more difficult enemies looking the same as weaker enemies, but in a different color, and things like that. think green vs red koopas in the mario series, different values of rupees in the zelda series, and even the clouds/bushes in the original SMB. these things can all use the same image data as their counterparts, and just apply a different palette after the fact. for the gameboy (and most other "8-bit" consoles), graphics are always stored at two-bits-per-pixel (2bpp), so the same number of pixels will always take up the same amount of space, regardless of the palette data applied. (that is, unless youve applied some sort of compression algorithm, like they did in pokémon g/s/c. ive copied the relevant decompression algorithm into a save file before for another project, and might look into doing it for misfortune. but.... misfortune doesnt actually have all that many unique graphics, so im worried that the decompression algorithm itself might end up taking more space than is saved by compressing the image data.) dont worry though!! ive recently realized that, although SRAM bank 0 is typically considered unsafe for data storage in gen I pokémon games, it might be ok to store data in that bank for these save files. its considered unsafe because it gets corrupted whenever a glitch pokémon's sprite is viewed (for example, remember that your hall of fame data is corrupted whenever encountering a glitch pokémon), but you really shouldnt have to see any glitch pokémon sprites while youre playing misfortune.. so its probably fine if i store data there for these files. thats a whole 'nother 7016 bytes to store data in!! and as a closing thought...... i swear i remember hearing somewhere that misfortune had a total of 4 songs, although only 2 are available online. i dont actually know where that number comes from tho...... one of the missing songs is obviously the game over theme, which you can hear in the video. the other song, i decided to use for chase scenes against debbie. i tried my best to keep it stylistically consistent with the official misfortune songs, you can listen to it here: www.cello2wc.com/secret/bgb_debbiechase-1660322048.wav

[@Peelster1]

@@Cello2WC Cool song on the .wav link. The .txt and your post was an interesting read as well. I enjoyed the joke at the final paragraph of the .txt. I wasn't aware that the old man could have the Rattata break out of the ball. Another thing interesting is that in Japanese Pocket Monsters Red Green and even Blue which had some patches to fix some bugs that Red and Green had, and which the US Red and Blue were based from, is that if your current PC Box was full, that the Old Man would be unable to catch the Weedle, but not in that it breaks out of the ball or the old man runs out of balls, rather the option to throw the ball is selected repeatably, but the ball is never thrown. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ-mha2mnNStirc I am rather interested in if you are able to make Misfortune using procedural generation. However, it seems that from the original and remakes that have been done, that there are supposed to be set rooms. The ending of the game is trial and error though, which is not as interesting as the puzzle game it could have been. It also seems to use more sprites from the other 3 games which Misfortune was said to be hidden in, so perhaps the space issue would be better with those games. I totally understand why you chose Yellow as your game of choice with how that 2nd story brings more to it. I myself, may not have been as interested in Misfortune if it wasn't in Pokemon as I haven't played any of the other games and my interest in the gen 1 Pokemon coding oddities is what led me here in the first place. Regarding the lack of code to check if the setup was completed, I suppose this means that me triggering the battle with the 1st Bug Catcher on Route 6 disabling the access to Misfortune was a complete coincidence in that the action of entering a battle broke the trigger for Misfortune to start? I also noticed that in Buried Alive, as it appears that you're using Box 1 as your bootstrap that changing PC boxes, attempting to withdraw one of the glitch pokemon, or depositing a pokemon from the party and backing out of the menu will crash the game. Another thing I found interesting in my attempt to escape from Buried Alive and continue the game is that all trainers are repeatably able, but will not approach you, Lt. Surge will not give you the Thunderbadge, all Card Key doors in Silph Co. are gone, and the Rival and Giovanni will not battle you when you talk with them. I attempted to make my way to Pewter City to see if talking to the museum guy and having him walk me there would fix trainer's not approaching, so that I could do the remove Snorlax glitch to proceed, but the exit of Diglitt's Cave took me back to the Route 11 gatehouse instead. With no ability to Trainer Fly and with the usual method of obtaining 8F by item underflow with giving the Fresh Water to a Saffron guard, I truly believe there is no way to proceed past Lavender Town. If I am missing some escape, it's a good puzzle. I had some hope that even without the Thunderbadge, that I could proceed to the Elite Four as I hoped that with other parts of the game being broken that the guard check may have been as well. However, I wasn't able to make it that far. In addition, as Lt. Surge's badge lets you Fly, I was hoping to use the Game Corner Abra's Teleport to Trainer Fly if I was somehow able to make trainers walk up to me again, but that brings us back to having a full party and depositing into Box 1 to make room for Abra crashing the game.

[@Cello2WC]

ive played thru as many misfortune remakes as i could find in order to get the best idea i could of what people expect misfortune to be, but i really didnt like the massive amounts of trial and error involved in them. i found myself badly wishing savestates existed in rpgmaker..... i plan to make the gameplay of my version a bit closer to -spookys house of jumpscares- spooky's jumpscare mansion, if youve heard of that game. basically, the majority of the rooms will be randomly generated mazes a la spuds adventure, but there will be certain rooms which will always be the same. i never bothered writing any code that makes sure that the text pointers for route 25 would always be modified any time you enter route 25; i modified the currently loaded pointers in the save file, but entering another map will overwrite those pointers, and theyll be loaded from ROM again whenever you go back to route 25. this was just a consequence of the way that i wrote the save, but i figured that it wasnt an issue, since doing anything other than immediately talking to the npc north of you could be considered "aborting" the event (related: if you talk to any of the other npcs on route 25 after loading the file and without leaving the map, the game will crash. i figured that it was sorta like debbie getting mad at you for getting so close to starting the event and then screwing it up at the very end. in reality, i just couldnt be bothered to look for the proper text pointers for those npcs, so i just pointed them to some text that crashes the game). im using the data of the _currently loaded box_ for the code that the map script pointer points to, which then jumps into SRAM bank 2 if i remember correctly. also if i remember correctly, thats PC boxes 1 thru 6. the "currently loaded box" data is completely separate from the rest of the box data. whenever you switch boxes: - [the "currently loaded box" data] is copied to [the data in the save file for the box that youre switching _from_], and... - [the data in the save file for the box that youre switching _to_] is copied to [the "currently loaded box" data]. this is so that PC boxes can make use of the extra space provided by the save file, while also allowing you to save the game, mess with your currently loaded box, and then reset without saving and have your box be as it was when you last saved. this is why the PC requires you to save the game whenever you switch boxes. and, in fact, this is probably why the PC is split into "boxes" in the first place, since theres not enough room in WRAM to store all of the boxes at once! in my case, however, im using the boxes stored in the save file and the "currently loaded box" data as two completely separate locations for storing code and data. this is why, if you switch boxes and then immediately switch back, the game will still probably crash once you leave the PC. sure, it might _seem_ like you have the same box loaded, but youre basically moving chunks of my code around in ways that i have no way to predict, overwriting some of it in the process (whatever was stored in the box you initially switched to). i never really expected anyone to try and continue the game in any of these saves, although you might be able to work with misfortune.... a lot of stuff isnt going to work in buried, since i overwrote the map script and never bothered to back up and jump to the original script, since the map scripts in pokémon tower dont really do anything interesting other than handling the marowak and trainer battles. trainers wont walk up to you for battles unless the map scripts are restored, and certain other overworld events will be broken if they rely on setting flags in memory and having the map script take things from there. the good news is, without map scripts, im fairly certain that you wont get your badges checked before victory road. also good news, and im not sure if you already knew this, but theres a poké flute in your PC. i didnt use PC _items_ to store any code, so you can mess with those as much as you want. the bad news: without map scripts, the event for waking snorlax up with the poké flute is broken. also bad news: in order to restore map scripts, you need to somehow both load a new map and save-and-reset the game at the same time. there's only one way that i know of to do this, and its to...... watch the hall of fame sequence. im reminded of pikasprey's "softlock picking" series.

[@huntermitchell6335]

Do you know how to put this on a cartridge? Because I want to Edit: found out

[@moonlightalpha1909]

I saw that you've been responding to recent comments and so I decided to give commenting a try- Can you actually play the Blue Tears mod? And if so, how?? I'm having trouble figuring it out.

[@Cello2WC]

i'm not quite sure what you mean... if you mean "can you actually interact with it" the answer is "not much" as, true to the original story, its mostly just a cutscene. if you mean "can you load it into an emulator" the answer is "absolutely", just keep in mind that its a _save file_ not a ROM or patch. you need to load a vanilla pokémon blue ROM into the emulator first, then load the save file. on BGB, you can just drag and drop the save file once the ROM is loaded. on VBA, its something like 'File -> Load Battery Data' once the ROM is loaded, if i remember. i hope that helps, and dont be afraid to reply if you have any more questions~

[@ZeroverseA]

To trick buried alive's White hand...you better use low lvl pokemon to trick them to use Transform But still thats why you need at least lvl 75 pokemon to defeat it

[@Chronicle_Broz]

what emulator will this work on for pc since this is a .sav file?

[@Cello2WC]

id imagine they should work on any decently accurate gameboy emulator; tho, i used BGB for testing while developing these, so thats the only emulator i can guarantee that theyll work on. as for opening a .sav file, you need to load the appropriate ROM file into the emulator first, then load the .sav into SRAM (usually labelled as something like "save file" or "battery data") on BGB, you can do that by just dragging and dropping the .sav file while the appropriate ROM is loaded.

[@RunninPigeon]

Please do the gen 2 creepypastas if you can!

[@Scooter6996]

Spoopy

[@uninspiredname2974]

Not expecting to get a reply after 2 years, but this video randomly showed up on my youtube recommendeds so here goes: For the Buried Alive sprite, what did you decide to do with regards to the White Hand's attacks? Do they fail to affect any pokemon, or did you actually make animations for them? (I suppose rather than make entirely new moves you might've just overridden two already existing moves, though?)

[@Cello2WC]

it looks like i used strength for fist and mega kick for brutal, and just overrode their names in the text box if the player is currently fighting buryman and its his turn

[@donowa5637]

can buried alive run on a pokemon blue rom? i have a copy of blue that i want to load this onto, and i've heard from other commenters that blue tears can run on a red rom

[@xavierkemplin3894]

Is there a possible way to use these saves on mobile or is it pc only?

[@tutojuegosnabil8384]

You can use the saves with any gameboy emulator Even on android

[@fencj4ever285]

Does that "blue tears" works with Pokémon blue version?

[@ToastaToast]

For some reason, this doesn't seem to work on the Pizza Boy emulator. Emulator inaccuracies, perhaps?

[@bloothecat7021]

Is It Possible To Do Misfortune On The Ds Version Of Pokemon Yellow?

[@TheCynicalCommentator]

This is really cool! How did you get it to work? Can I get it to work on any emulator?

[@Cello2WC]

oh hey sorry it looks like i missed this when it was posted.... sorry,, youtube _usually_ gives me a notification when someone comments, but not always..... anyway, i dont think i used any "obscure" gameboy features like echo ram or vram inaccessibility, so i dont foresee any issues with running these on crappier emulators. however, i cant make any promises, especially with mobile emulators, since i only tested these on bgb. the save files are linked in the description, so feel free to download them and give them a try on your emulator of choice!! just be sure to use the right version (out of r/b/y)

[@TheCynicalCommentator]

@@Cello2WC got them to work. Very nice job!

[@Chronicle_Broz]

@@TheCynicalCommentator what emulator did ya use im having trouble

[@TheCynicalCommentator]

@@Chronicle_Broz well any emulator really. The only thing you’d have to do is make a save file already (I saved after putting in my and the rivals names and then being transported into the bedroom) and then close out of the game, go to where the save file is stored, and replace the .save with the custom save file. (You’ll have to change the name of it to whatever one you’re using. Ex: I used blue tears so I renamed it to “Pokemon Blue.sav”). After that, it should work.

[@GSPScorp]

*Cool idea: I’m the Buried Alive fight, have A chip tune remix of Brimstone play from Friday Night Funkin Lullaby. It’s A mod of A rhythm game that has you sing against Pokémon Creepypasta characters. And one of them is Buried Alive. And his song is called Brimstone.*

[@hir0shi89]

why the rom on bugga when the fight starts? it's normal?

[@RickisRetiered]

So I've run into a strange issue with buried alive. It started after I beat him. The sprites of either Red or Buried Alive are corrupted (as if Missingno shenanigans are happening), sometimes the sprites of the opposing Pokemon don't show up, and the game crashes every time I try to switch Pokemon when Buried Alive wants to send out White Hand. I've tried multiple times to reupload the save file to my cartridge, and the same issues happen any way. I've tried making a new save file, and the cartridge seems to be behaving completely normal (no corruptions for either wild Pokemon or Trainer battles). I try overwriting the Buried Alive save file and reuploading it again, but still the same issues pop up. Have you ever come across this issue before? Did the game crashing upon defeating Buried Alive corrupt the ROM somehow?

[@Cello2WC]

ah, heck. it didnt corrupt the ROM (thats physically impossible for it to do), but it absolutely couldve corrupted SRAM (the block of memory where the save file is stored, and thus all of the custom sprites and code). its not unheard of for a game crash to overwrite whatever bank of SRAM is currently open, and i guess i forgot to close it before crashing the game. thats on me.

[@RickisRetiered]

@@Cello2WC I see. Well , one positive is that now we know about this issue and it can (presumably) be patched in a future version of the save file. Is there any way I can repair the SRAM without having out right replace the chip on the board, or am I just screwed?

[@Cello2WC]

the chip itself should be undamaged, its just that the data on it was corrupted. redownloading the save file and uploading it again to your cartridge should fix the issue until the next time the game crashes like that

[@RickisRetiered]

@@Cello2WC That's the thing, though. I did reupload the save file. Multiple times. I even tried the older version of the file and got the same results. I even tried starting a new save file altogether, playing up to the Viridian Forest, and then overwriting it with the Buried Alive file, and still got the same result. I guess I can try it again but play the game through Lavender Town, but I'm not sure what other options I'd have if even that doesn't work.

[@Cello2WC]

wait wh

[@selfdestructivef0rce]

So i just replace the save file with the one in the description to play? If so thats awesome

[@MebulaStarus]

OMG BLUE TEARS YESS

[@Chronicle_Broz]

Are ya planning to do a Lost silver rom hack?

[@Cello2WC]

lost silver is definitely my favorite pokémon creepypasta, and ive already looked into making it into a ROM hack. at the moment, though, im busy with school and a ROM hack for strangled red

[@Turbulation1]

@@Cello2WC That would be cool, and I imagine you're probably going to go for a mostly 1:1 conversion of Re: Lost Silver, since it has the expansions of the story that are canon to the creepypasta. But at the same time we don't have a full story on one of the routes in the creepypasta (The Ruins of Alph one) we know it's locations and all, but not really any specific details on what actually happens, and we probably might never get that since the original creepypasta author has been gone from the internet for over a decade at this point. Re: Lost Silver had to take many liberties with including the route, mostly with the ending, in order to make the route stand on it's own compared to the others, but it's probably not how the author intended and I don't know if you will implement it the same way as Reidd did.

[@ProfessorCreepyPasta]

The glitch I encountered with Buried Alive was just VisualBoyAdvance acting wonky, in case if you saw my comment and deleted it or maybe my comment didn't post but yeah it's all good. I hope you plan on releasing a full version of Misfortune.

[@Cello2WC]

hm... i never delete any comments, and i dont see anything in the "held for spam review" section.... thats odd. either way, i guess i couldnt really expect anything to work properly on vba, haha. and yes, i do plan on finishing misfortune, when the time is right.

[@ProfessorCreepyPasta]

@@Cello2WC I think I was just having mobile Wi-Fi issues and that's cool. May I ask how you make the saves? I know nothing about coding but I'm still amazed that you made these without actual hacking the rom.

[@Cello2WC]

if youre familiar with a youtuber named "TheZZAZZGlitch", im actually repurposing some code from their scrapped 2020 april fools event. what that code does, is it basically can take asm code thats written almost the same way as you would write if you were making a rom hack, and, instead of compiling it to a rom, compiles it into a save file (thats not completely right... a "base" save file is also provided, and the code only overwrites boxed pokémon data). so with this setup, you end up with a regular save file that just happens to have some very specific weird pokémon in the PC box. in order to run that data as code, there are two separate techniques. i think this video ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2PbZKN_q7uhhpY ) explains the techniques pretty well, but if you just want a summary: on one hand, you have the fact that all maps in these games run a "script" once every frame, unless the player is walking, in which case its run once every step. i can replace this script, since its specified by a 2-byte pointer in memory. if i just change that script to one thats stored in my PC box, then i can run that PC box as code almost every frame. the map script pointer is stored in the save file, so my code will run even if you save-and-reset the game. there is an issue, however, because the map's script is updated every time you move to a new room..... on the other hand, you have the fact that, in order to draw sprites to the screen, some code from RAM needs to be run every frame (there are technical reasons for this, but thats a bit much to get into right now...). since this code is in RAM (random access memory), and not ROM (read-only memory), im free to overwrite it with whatever i want. the bit of code thats stored in RAM is really quite small, but thats fine, since i can just encode a jump instruction to get from there to somewhere where i have more space. unlike the map script method, this code is completely untouched when you move to a new room. there is an issue, however, because this code isnt stored in the save file, so itll be back to normal if you save-and-reset the game.... so what do you do? well, of course, you have the map script constantly make sure that the sprite-drawing script is modified, and you have the sprite-drawing script constantly make sure that the map script is modified! that way, unless you manage to save-and-reset at the same time as changing maps, my custom code will always be constantly running in the background. as it turns out, the only way to save-and-reset at the same time as changing maps is to beat the elite four and get to the hall of fame sequence. thats fine for my purposes, since none of these stories involve beating the elite four. even if they did, i could theoretically replace the hall of fame's map script with one that shows a "fake" ending sequence that looks identical, but makes sure to keep the map script modified for when you reset the game at the end of the sequence. ...phew....... that was........ longer than i expected. i know i just made it sound complicated, but im really not doing much hardcore computer science work here. all of the heavy lifting was done by TheZZAZZGlitch and MrCheeze. i got the whole framework from them, and at that point im free to just mess around and make the game do whatever the hekk i want it to.

[@ProfessorCreepyPasta]

@@Cello2WC very interesting! Also is it not possible to add the staticmesh.wav to the Game Over screen in the Buried Alive screen? Is that why a reversed version of the Lavender Town theme is used instead?

[@Cello2WC]

@ProfessorCreepyPasta i had initially tried to recreate staticmesh.wav using methods typical for the game boy, using its two pulse channels, wave channel, and noise channel. in the end, i wasnt able to recreate the whispering noises in a way that i was happy with. of course, theres also the option of including staticmesh.wav as actual sampled audio data, similar to an actual .wav file. i could copy the sample-playing code from pokémon yellow (used for pikachu's cries). but, if you try to do this, youd quickly run into an issue.... the version of staticmesh.wav that i see most commonly is 1 minute and 47 seconds long. i can easily trim some silence from the start and end to get it down to 1 minute and 45 seconds. if you immediately go and convert that file to the format used by pokémon yellow's sample player, you end up with a file thats ~289439 bytes in size. you can listen to what that file sounds like here, but _*I WOULD RECOMMEND LOWERING YOUR VOLUME*_: www.cello2wc.com/secret/staticmesh/staticmesh-yellow.wav however, pokémon yellow's sample player has kind of an absurd sample rate of 22050 Hz, so i could easily lower the sample rate to smth like 8000 Hz and end up with a file thats ~105012 bytes ( www.cello2wc.com/secret/staticmesh/staticmesh-8000-yellow.wav ), or even 4000 Hz for ~52506 bytes ( www.cello2wc.com/secret/staticmesh/staticmesh-4000-yellow.wav ), although by 4000 Hz the audio is a little bit incomprehensible, even for distorted creepypasta audio standards. so how much space do we have in one of these save files? well, a single bank of SRAM is........ 8192 bytes. and i only have 2 full banks of SRAM to play with for these saves, plus 7016 bytes in SRAM bank 0 if i dont mind the data getting overwritten when a glitch pokémon sprite is loaded. theres also some space in WRAM that i can use, around 1024 bytes. i could probably find a little bit more space to use in WRAM, like maybe the daycare pokémon? but anyway, thats a total of approximately 24424 bytes. compared to these 52506-, 105012-, and 289439-byte files, thats.... nothing. and i still need some space in the save to put,,,,,, well,,,, everything else. so, in the end, i decided that a down-pitched, slowed, and reversed lavender town theme would work well enough for my purposes, and would only take a minimal amount of space. plus, i would be able to implement it with the game's own music engine, no fancy sample-playing code needed.

[@Arismory]

This works on a unmodified rom? Just the save file?

[@Cello2WC]

i didnt modify the roms for anything related to this project but i went and checked the hashes of the roms i tested on against the hashes listed in the disassembly cause after seeing this comment i got nervous about "what if i accidentally used one of my modified roms oh no" (ive done a lot of experimenting with making rom hacks using the disassembly in the past so i have several lightly modified pokémon roms on my computer). the hashes for red and blue matched, but yellow gave me a different hash so....... whoops. next time i have time to work on misfortune ill have to remember to like redownload pokeyellow and compile an actual clean rom lol

[@JosephPBD]

this will be awesome if you create a real cartridge from that...

[@Cello2WC]

i know i have a joey joebags lying around somewhere, if i couldve found it i wouldve loved to show this off on a real cartridge. but as it is i only managed to upload this video 30 minutes before the end of the day on halloween because i am very bad at planning ahead. if i can find my joebags ill probably upload some footage of these running on a real gameboy onto my second channel?

[@TheCynicalCommentator]

Sooooo funny story. You actually can and I have! The way you do it is that you get something like a GBXCART which allows you to essentially plug in game boy carts into your pc. The intent with these is that you’re able to back up save data to your pc, but you can also, say, write custom save data to gameboy carts. Which I’ve done. So if you got a pc, you can absolutely make a game cart of these with official carts!

[@ExoticFoxy]

Yoo tutorial how to make? Rom hack pokepasta

[@SilentRealm6677]

I wonder if buried alive save will work with pokemon red, green and blue standard edition hack because it's more closer to Japanese version

[@Cello2WC]

it depends on whether the hack youre talking about was made using the disassembly or not. if the game was recompiled from the disassembly, then i highly doubt that any of these would work, since all of the functions and data would probably be moved around so none of my pointers will be pointing to what theyre supposed to be. on the other hand, if the hack was made by editing individual bytes of the ROM so that things like encounter tables and the layout of the unknown dungeon and stuff match the JP versions, theres a chance that these saves might be able to work somewhat. i cant really give you an estimate on what that chance is, but i think that there would be a chance. whatever the case, theres no harm in trying it out, just to see what happens, right? its always fun when things go wrong!

[@martincerveragarcia7904]

it doesnt tell me anywhere how to actually LOAD the save file. how do i do it???

[@Cello2WC]

that depends on what emulator youre using. on bgb, you can just load the appropriate ROM, and then drag+drop the save file onto the emulator window, and thatll load it. other emulators may have options labeled "load save file" or "load battery data" somewhere. if all else fails, closing the emulator and then putting the save file in the same directory as your ROM file and rename the save file so that it has the _exact_ same name as the ROM file (except for the extension) should cause most emulators to load the save file for you, the next time the ROM is loaded

[@martincerveragarcia7904]

@@Cello2WC thanks! it worked!

[@SilentRealm6677]

Man blue,s tears doesn't work with my pokemon green and i would like to see version for pokemon green hack because that will make Mt. Silver look closer to version in gold and silver

[@fergusmurray1828]

Sorry to be so uninformed, but how can you hack merely save data in such a sophisticated way? Surely you’ve had to add various sprites into the rom so that they can be recalled, such as the backsprite for Blue, the buried alive sprite, etc?

[@Cello2WC]

while youre correct in believing that i need to add sprites into the _game_ for these save files, youre incorrect in assuming that these sprites need to be added to the _ROM_. the game boy has several different types of memory that it can access. there's ROM (Read-Only Memory), provided by the cartridge currently placed within the cartridge slot, and there are various different flavors of RAM (Random Access Memory). VRAM (Video RAM), WRAM (Work RAM), and HRAM (High RAM) are all provided by the console itself, and their contents are destroyed whenever the console is powered off. however, SRAM (Static RAM) is provided by the cartridge in a similar manner to ROM, and its contents last as long as the cartridge's save battery does. SRAM may be treated as if it were additional WRAM, such as it is in Super Mario Land 2, but because its contents may be preserved while the console is powered off, it is typically used for the storage of save data. this is what the .sav file created by an emulator is. it is simply the contents of the emulated cartridge's SRAM. whats important to realize about ROM, VRAM, WRAM, HRAM, and SRAM is that they all end in 'M', and that 'M' stands for memory. while these are different types of memory, and each is meant for something specific.... at the end of the day, its all memory. typically, ROM contains code and static data. however, code can be loaded into any type of RAM and it will run just fine (well, there are some technicalities about running code from VRAM, but....). in fact, the game boy pokémon games, and in fact _most_ game boy games, _do_ store a small piece of code in HRAM related to copying sprites to the screen. so to finally answer your question: code, data, graphics, maps, music.... its all just those good ol' ones and zeroes, and all you need to represent those ones and zeroes is some kind of memory. sprites are typically stored in ROM since thats all that gets written to the cartridge at the factory. but since i can just give you the contents of SRAM as a .sav file, i can basically give you whatever code and data i want for you to run alongside the unmodified ROM.

[@dylanzlol7293]

@@Cello2WC Is it possible to do a Pkmn Strangled Red recreation? or maybe that one Pokemon Team Rocket edition romhack but in the original pokemon red instead of pkmn firered? (Pokemon Red has every sprite for a hypothetical recreation of Pokemon Team rocket edition so you wouldnt need to add that many sprites except the protagonist rocket grunt's multiple back sprites and overworld sprites for said MC)

[@Cello2WC]

im working on strangled red at the moment, but im making it as a ROM hack rather than a save file because i dont think a save file would have enough space to store everything thats needed for strangled red (mostly because there needs to be new dialogue for almost every NPC) i havent looked into team rocket edition at all, but i think ive got enough on my plate for the moment.... maybe ill look into it later

[@dylanzlol7293]

@@Cello2WC cool and cool (through you could give it a try, its a nice firered romhack and i was thinking about a gen 1 version of it

[@yoymate6316]

“i started with this one bc if i messed it up ppl would get less upset lmao” proceeds to show the most technically impressive SAV ever crafted by mankind edit: ok definitely i spoke too soon, the misfortune one actually looks like an entirely different game how the hell did you manage that

[@Cello2WC]

thats ACE baybee!!! once youre able to run your own code (referred to as "Arbitrary Code Execution", or "ACE") you can pretty much do whatever you want!! when you say that the misfortune save file "looks like an entirely different game", youre not far off; i pretty much wrote an entirely new game engine into the save file, and then gave that one NPC an invalid text pointer that runs some code and eventually ends up in my new engine. thats.... probably why im running low on space in that file, haha. there are some noticeable limitations to what i can do with ACE.... most notably, i can't override any of the code that the game calls during an interrupt. this is why in misfortune, when there's a text box open and theres a sprite near the top of the screen (16:37 and 16:48), the sprite flickers. in the text box code, i wait for a specific line of the screen to be drawn, and then i disable sprites so that sprites arent drawn on top of the text box. i then _try_ to re-enable sprites before the console starts drawing the next frame, but because the code for the VBlank interrupt sometimes takes longer than i would like it to, i am sometimes unable to re-enable sprites fast enough. normally, you'd use another interrupt in order to handle this disabling and re-enabling sprites, but, as i said, i simply dont have control over that region of code.

[@yoymate6316]

@@Cello2WC wow… sometimes as someone who doesn’t do this sort of coding it’s easy to forget how truly arbitrary is ACE lol. like usually people just use ACE to do useful and/or cool things within the borders of the game’s engine but yeah i didn’t even think of the possibility of essentially writing a new engine and running it through ACE correct me if i’m wrong but i think it might be kiiind of similar in concept, in a way, to that famous pokémon yellow TAS in which they used joypad inputs to encode a data stream that is executed on the fly and makes it look like the game boy is running other games?

[@DarkWinterAMV]

Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaase can you do one for Pokemon Strangled Red, it's my favourite creepypasta ever and there's no hack ROM for it after like 10 years ☹️

[@Cello2WC]

i think the reason nobody's made a hack for strangled red yet is because its such a large undertaking. these three stories were each only a few paragraphs long, and id be willing to bet that strangled red is longer than all three of these combined. not to mention the fact that strangled red says about the main game that "The story was different", without going much into detail, and goes through getting all of the badges, stated to be 30 hours of gameplay, in like 6 paragraphs... theres also a couple parts that dont entirely make sense, like how steven walks from lavender to pallet twice without any pokémon, and is stated to have gone through cerulean (you need one of either cut, surf, or fly to get to pallet from lavender and none of those routes go through cerulean) that said, i do agree with you that its a shame that no rom hack's come out for it after all this time. it wouldnt be possible in a save file like i did these three, not only because of scope, but because the story makes changes to the title and continue screens, and i only have access to ACE once the player loads the file. but i could totally make the intro pallet town section and everything after the champion battle as a rom hack, so........ ill look into it.

[@DarkWinterAMV]

@@Cello2WC oh yea I didn't really think of that... But if you can make the parts you mentioned then that's cool :D

[@jordangaming1019]

@@Cello2WC I think that making Strangled Red its own full game would be a little too ambitious.

[@dylanzlol7293]

@@Cello2WC well, since it's vague enough you could take liberties, or simply ignore the "30+ hours gameplay and the story is different!!!" and just use the original kanto region and make some minor story adjustments and text changes and the rival's battles.

[@Turbulation1]

Interesting to see that even trying to make a very faithful romhack of this creepypasta would be nearly impossible due to the scope. I already know Reidd Maxwell's version of the game being recreated on his Pokemon Gamemaker engine is most certainly not going to have any of the kanto region gameplay and mainly only do the parts of the story that actually are unique to the creepypasta because that would require recreating the entirety of Pokemon Red which Reidd already tried for a few years when making his Cursed Black fangame, but he gave up as soon as a romhack was made for it.

[@genesiskentcruz6008]

I know the story of blue's tears Blue's tears are in Pokemon original story. Because blue is already beaten in Pokemon red/blue. And in the original Pokemon on the series are beaten by ash. And blue started crying and Professor Oak says to blue " You need to stop cooperating with team rocket". And blue tear the picture of team rocket and him. But then blue is not forgive red and starting murdering red and himself So that's why you named this game "Blue's tears". Am I right

[@FrogmaskMusic]

It’s a preexisting story

[@user-wl6ec4cx8j]

シオン

[@user-wl6ec4cx8j]

レッドさんかっこいい

[@JJBOI1975]

i played blue tears on red version

[@user-wl6ec4cx8j]

シオンタウン

[@ls190v2]

Ahh(!)

[@sictrix]

you should randomly distribute these to little children at cheap prices

[@saarza9991]

Agree

[@darklitskies]

Can you do a tutorial on how to make a save file like this?

[@angelespinozaoficial]

Ojalá supiera inglés completamente :(