Why Electivire is Pokemon's Biggest Disappointment...

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Electivire is Pokemon's Biggest Disappointment. How can a Pokemon so cool be so bad? Today, joined by ‪@FalseSwipeGaming‬ , we set out to fix Electivire. How good could Electivire be actually?
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Quick correction: we ended up going with a 43 bst increase but forgot to mention in the finished product. Thank you for letting us know! Also, Check out the collab I did on Kellens channel as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXWTiZWse6iDf9k

[@treygreypaws3689]

I knew CC was going to be added. Amazed bulk up or sword wasn't an option

[@danielwynn9736]

Breh I just saw Blunders video and he roasted CTC until he left 😂

[@andrewpaschall8992]

Imo if they just gave him CC, plasma fists, and a boosting move like swords dance or shift gear, he would be very solidly in RU minimum.

[@jacobluneberg597]

so glad you clarified that lmao i thought i was going insane

[@flameback1]

Evire is the ultimate noob pokemon.

[@riseandbucket]

They should give Electivire a regional form that is Ice Electric since it's based off a yeti, it will hopefully have a higher base speed. If that happens there will hopefully be a better physical electric stab or will become special attacker, that would be a good change for my favorite Pokémon.

[@MrMonkey2150]

Basically a weavile but electric instead of dark 😂

[@bigchillin4216]

Shocksquatch?

[@sperryyoungerjr.3985]

I was just thinking about this and Magmortor should have a regional variant to go along with it. Maybe it should be a Fire/Ground.

[@cadetjones9205]

Ew Ice Typing would kill him. Unless you gave him technician and triple axel.

[@Kcolon23]

That would be sick

[@doctorplague6967]

One cool thing about giving Plasma Fists to Electivire is that if you guess correctly you'll end up turning a normal type move into electric, and give Electivire the Motor speed boost

[@ginargent5077]

Oh shiiiiit that’s so smart!!

[@frankchen4229]

it's zeraora's idea, no?

[@lucymcelhone4332]

That would be sick

[@rivalsoul9853]

@@frankchen4229 that's basically because they share a similar ability and they're both electrics...so duh

[@artimist0315]

@@frankchen4229 I mean volt absorb on zera is less impactful

[@Mar-iw5ut]

Instead of icicle crash you could give Evire Iron fist which dose boost plasma fist and obviously ice punch it also makes sense because he has big hands probably give iron fist over vital spirit

[@transformerpro7489]

That makes total sense. E-vire having Iron Fist as an ability is a great idea, especially if you also give it plasma fist

[@PunkMaquiavel]

That was exactly what pokemon radical red did, gave him iron fist plus plasma first. Became a lot better

[@CocoLocoToco]

@@PunkMaquiavel yessir

[@Mar-iw5ut]

@@PunkMaquiavel my b didn't know that

[@PunkMaquiavel]

@@Mar-iw5ut no problem mate! Just adding to your comment :)

[@forgeknight3312]

Electivire’s competitive uselessness is so sad for such a cool Pokémon…

[@scorpioncox8978]

If you were ever to do this again, I think another good case study would be Flareon, the one evelution that's been given the short end of the stick through every generation and just feels so mishandled.

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

Another Eeveelution that also needs a buff is Glaceon, and interestingly, both have the same problem of a low speed stat holding them back. Flareon could also really use more good physical fire attacks, it already has flare blitz, but with it's low speed and defense, the moves recoil doesn't help anything

[@scorpioncox8978]

@@matthewkuscienko4616 honestly, if Flareon was just given better moves, swap its spa and speed stats along with replacing guts with an ability like sheer force, technican or even fluffy would make that eeveelution so much better.

[@artimist0315]

Agree, I still don't understand how they made eveelutions based on the special types before the physical/special split, but made Flareon and leafeon physically oriented. Also glaceon should clearly be faster than cloyster and blastoise, who the hell thought this stat spead made sens ? An agile frail looking ice fox with 110 defense but only 65 speed ?! Gen 4 is such a weird gen, where they decided to give the most random stat spreads to pokemons despite making zero sens with their designs and inspirations and ruining perfectly good pokemon, for the sake of making them more unic. that's how we got luxray.

[@scorpioncox8978]

@@artimist0315 don't forget that flareon had to wait till gen 6 to get flare blitz despite the move coming out in gen 4

[@PelemusMcSoy]

With terastalization out, I plan on finding a viable physical set for Flareon; I'm thinking Normal to start?

[@zachattach1030]

Adding power whip to its movepool could really help with the type coverage too! And it would make sense with its tail things on its back.

[@steeltits1650]

It definitely would, since Gyarados gets Power Whip.

[@artimist0315]

thought the same thing.

[@calidude348]

No. Absolutely not

[@steeltits1650]

@@calidude348 Why not?

[@kolak980]

@@calidude348 Fits the wires on it's back

[@danyosuna7276]

Give him a Fighting typing. Makes sense, dude loves to punch, gets a lof of coverage and overall makes him a more interesting mon.

[@fabrizioorpianesi6670]

About this, I find Radical Red's changes to Electivire interesting. The lad now is an Electric/Fighting type with Iron Fist as an ability, while as for new moves it gained Aura Sphere, Bulk Up, Close Combat, Mach Punch and Plasma Fists

[@OfficialOlue]

Electivire should be an electric/fighting type, which doesn't exist and is a shame because it is such a badass type combination. With just that change it would make Electivire soooo much better

[@RFE812]

It’s also worth noting that the Electric/Fighting combo is the only Electric pairing that doesn’t currently exist.

[@alexmazza3784]

i feel like zeraora should be elec/fighting since it fits it quite well

[@davidtoomey4712]

Should get CC or Iron Fist-boosted drain punch as well

[@okagron]

It made it even more confusing that it wasn't Electric/Fighting when it could get Cross Chop all the way back in Gen 2 through Elekid as an egg move. Like, that's just the most random fighting move to give a pokemon but it made it a good opportunity to just make Electivire Fighting type as well.

[@victordevizio8250]

It should have access to Belly drum. I get why it doesn’t but Magmar and Magmortar can learn it.

[@Quix0tic707]

If I were tasked with making Electivire viable, I would just give it Galvanize and Swords Dance. Galvanize boosted Double-Edge would solve the problem of weak STAB (216 power factoring in STAB and Galvanize) while STAB Galvanize Quick Attack would let it tear through frail offenisve mons. Yes it would still struggle with bulky Ground types, but that's what you've got 5 teammates for.

[@JustARandomMexican]

This right here! Electivire only has 2 abilities anyway, so it'd be super easy to implement.

[@muzammilibrahim5011]

SD is useless on him with his poor defense and lacklustre speed. Would have no time to set up. It needs better BST spread.

[@Quix0tic707]

@@muzammilibrahim5011 You could set up on forced switches like Toxapex, Slowbro, Corviknight etc. Against more offensive teams you could just start blasting as a STAB 144 bp move coming off 123 base attack would smash anything that didn’t resist it. Not saying my ideas would send it to OU but at least it would actually be good in whatever tier it would end up in

[@muzammilibrahim5011]

@@Quix0tic707 It speed is too low for OU and is too frail. +2 attack is useless when most OU attackers could OHKO it. And it's not fast enough to OHKO them before they attack.

[@Quix0tic707]

@@muzammilibrahim5011 Unless you made it ridiculously OP there's no way Electivire would be OU when you have Zeroara and Tapu Koko running around.

[@LordEmvee]

Allow me to introduce you to AV Rock Tomb Electivire

[@pokeaimMD]

I saw it not kill a volcarona LOL

[@LordEmvee]

@@pokeaimMD LOL ya bulky volcarona is of a different breed. Electivire fortunately lead to its downfall

[@EpicLuL]

@@LordEmvee Electivire was not good at all only 1 fight he had some potential.

[@thegrimminal9461]

Electivire’s one of my favorite mon’s and it’s so sad that they didn’t give him what he deserves

[@user-ov2fi2vc4s]

YES. Love this concept. Would love to see some wacky pokémon like Carnivine too!

[@zobirisking706]

I love Carnivine :)

[@glitchedporygon5426]

Carnivine needs some love

[@CobraCodex]

Would love to see Kellen join a showdown live at some point! False Swipe is the channel that got me interested in competitive mons 5ish years ago.

[@TheBeastJohn]

The Collab that we all didn’t even know we needed so bad, great vid

[@awesometoadultimate8562]

I feel like the stat buffs are too much, since Electivire is already 540 BST (which makes sense because it evolves from a 490 BST mon) but you buffed it up to 583 BST. That's on par with side legends like the Regis or the Swords of Justice. I would probably just keep the moveset buffs, Volt Absorb, base 100 Speed (which would make it 545 BST), and make it Electric/Fighting. For future reference, when giving mons stat buffs, I would recommend not going over 550-555 BST unless they're like a pseudo-legendary or something.

[@grizzlyscalp9506]

They fail to realize it's the stat distribution that kills it. 540 is more than enough for a pokemon to succeed in the higher tiers as long as you don't mess up the distribution.

[@NotGord]

@@grizzlyscalp9506 Yeah just look at damn Rillaboom. It's attack and special attack differential is simply unfair. 125 to 60 of I remember correctly. Ridiculous.

[@okagron]

Literally the only stat it needs raised is its speed and at the very least back to the same speed as Electabuzz.

[@lodakras]

@@BlackArche0ps that's what they meant....

[@NotGord]

@@BlackArche0ps For starters it's the sharpest difference in attacking stats. While Rillaboom had a 65 difference. Emboar had like an 18 attack difference. Emboars special attack will go to waste. And Rillaboom used effectively 40 more stats. That's not even talking about the grassy terrain stab boost which if it had any more attack like Weavile then it would break the game further.

[@theblazinken3501]

My issue with the bst increase is, it's too much. Evire is 540, at 590 it's stronger than ultra beasts. It would be better to just respec it into a special attacker (with stat spread to give it 125 spa and 100 speed) and buff its movepool with Grass knot, overheat, fire blast, dark pulse and maybe something more. Other than that, very enjoyable vid guys

[@CoffeeFlavoredMilk]

I think at least slightly bumping up its SpA, Attack, and Speed would be good stat patch-ups. Not overlapping too much with Magmortar's pure Special wallbreaker stat spread. (Ironically Magmortar has had a better competitive history than Electivire, actually being viable in the lower tiers it ends up in while E-Vire is stuck in mediocrity even in Gen 5 RU and Gen 6 NU) Pokemon like Togekiss and Arcanine have higher BSTs so its not like higher than 540 is too much for a non-legendary. I do agree though that giving it nearly legendary stats is pushing it. The only times they've done for non-legendaries they had to give them awful abilities to offset it. (Though people agree it nerfed them TOO much)

[@viditsinha9707]

There are already so many special electric types, let ewire be a physical attacker buff it in that way

[@animeanime7849]

@@CoffeeFlavoredMilk I would rather keep it a physical attackers may not make it objectively better but you can tell that what it was meant to be especially looking at its design so I would like for it to be buffed with that in mind

[@pablojams5152]

It doesn’t need to be made a special attacker, they just need to give physical electric attackers more and better tools.

[@vasimbelim1091]

Its hard to believe this mf's has 540 stats total 😅 Looks like those early bug type stats

[@peude1970]

id see triple axel making more sense than icicle crash

[@justlapiis6008]

You guys should totally collab more! These videos are fun and educational!

[@strangeshotgun]

Loving this format! Recommendation: At 4:05 color code the moves based on type to make them slightly more readable. Also, adding something saying “1hko” or “2hko” to the damage calcs would make it more understandable for non-competitive players

[@TheClutchUDF]

If Electivire also stayed a Special Attacker, like it’s pre-evolutions, it would have been tremendously better

[@vinny4765]

I remember as a kid thinking anything with coverage from the elemental punches as sick. Didn't take long to realize that it wasn't enough.

[@jackbuggeln4870]

Loving the new style of vids aim. Love hearing your thoughts on mons and would love to see more. Can't wait for the SV content

[@jacksonhall3151]

the best part of this video is seeing what you guys would add to make it better. love this idea.

[@nomercyforswine]

I really like this format of video from you guys! I might suggest making the stats screen (where you add moves and improve the base stats) a little less chaotic by simplifying the layout, toning the colors down, and maybe using a more readable font? Icons of the move types might help too, if you can manage with the space provided. The content was perfect though, keep up the great work! :^)

[@pokeaimMD]

Noted ty!

[@Cycrum]

Yeah, take notes from the visuals in Wolfey’s content! They are top-notch for informative Pokémon content: readable font, just enough detail on screen, and fantastic color combinations

[@AkaruiSora]

Yo, I really dig this kinda video! Really informative and a good guide on what should be done to less-than-stellar pokemon. Would love to see more content like this for some other mons that need just a little bit more to become viable.

[@IXO1029]

While in the topic of fixing non-viable Pokémon it would be really cool to see how you would fix Vikavolt. It's such a cool Mon with so much potential but it ended up being slower than it's 1st evo.

[@jwhalliday5308]

Loved this amd the luxray videk. Would be amazing to get this as regular segment for this channel.

[@coffeebeam2399]

Awesome Video Idea and collaboration between two great channels. I always enjoy Ideas about improving the Mons that were somewhat overlooked.

[@user-gc3qj7md8c]

Love the new style of content you've been incorporating. Keep up the great work Joe!

[@macggnore]

Would love to see one of these for Snorlax. On paper it should have the stats and attack pool to succeed, but it's lack of viable recovery (HOW does it not have Slack Off??) really holds it back.

[@Mrdonjuliothewicked]

Diamond and pearl is basically when I got into competitive, in the beggining when people like Marriland and Disfunction (I still wonder what happened to them I can’t find them anywhere) were posting their battles, and I’d use the Shoddy simulator. I remember Electivire being used everywhere especially with Gyarados and hiding your Electivire in the back for volt absorb, and it was crazy to see just how fast it had fell off.

[@Smart1529]

Marriland is still going I believe

[@Mrdonjuliothewicked]

@@Smart1529 ah yes he is, that was just the way I worded it when I said them I was talking about Disfunction/Fysdunction

[@YellowLucario99]

Dig this new format a ton. Would love to see more underwhelming mons explored like this

[@michaelcaban1749]

Keep doing more of this!!

[@KidKudos]

I think as long as Zerora and Regieleki exist Electivire would always struggle to find a place in OU but these improvements would definitely help it find a home in UU and find viability in OU as a fun alternative and even a Regieleki switch in

[@derfret1365]

There should be a special electric type version of Strengh Sap. Wouldn't fit too well on Electivire, but it would be neat

[@algar6616]

Love da educational content dog, slick, also you pulled out the big guns w false swipe

[@pikazilla6405]

Zeraora is a perfect example of the fact that a physical electric type totally can work if it gets actually functional stab and movepool, I think the disappointment of electivire burned us for years and we didn’t give the thought enough attention so it’s nice to see a video like this to really see what we learned and where gamefreak went wrong and could’ve done better

[@flyingoctopus4304]

Love this new format, keep it up!

[@Kishimyu]

Yo!! I love this video! Keep this going. Fix more Poke'mon please! Plus this collab is fire!

[@Cocoa_Butters]

I like it, I would love to see E-vire learn Bulk Up and Drain Punch or just go all out with Explosion

[@teobaldolendario8880]

It was my favorite competitive Pokemon back in Gen 4 and still one of my favorite designs overall, I loved to bait an electric type attack and then boost my late-game Electsweeper cause there was no Team Preview back then. After gen 4, I always wondered if Motor Drive increasing also SpA and Atk could help it stay meta (same for Zebstrika).

[@bobjob2514]

I really want a viable physical electric move that isn't exclusive to legendaries, etc. Electric takedown just isn't cutting it!

[@arcillanicoandreisalaveria3824]

There are a ton of great physical electric moves! Sadly exclusive to pikaclones...

[@tylerbrown9631]

I love these educational vids. Glad to have em now. I know you probably won't have time for them once the new games release.

[@notyou6674]

what about giving it sheer force, especially since it loves to run life orb so much. also it might be better design to make it even slower than before as a trade of for bigger improvements otherwise, i feel like that would make sense and make for a cool design.

[@MrEnaher]

Nice format, you should do more videos like this.

[@b27969]

What electivires stats should be: HP: 95 Attack: 130 Defense: 80 Spatk: 112 Spdef: 85 Speed: 100 Then give it the ability iron fist And add the moves: drain punch, meteor mash, plasma fists Love the video and this awesome pokemon deserves a boost like this!

[@b27969]

After a year I’ve been able to reconsider: HP: 90 Attack: 125 Defence: 75 Spatk: 118 Spdef: 85 Speed: 100

[@vernonowen5358]

I don’t know why, but looking at Electivire makes me think of a new move that’s an elbow drop wrestling style. It could be electric type if you wanted to give it a post introduction signature move like Ariados with poison thread (I think thats its name). That or another potential new move called Circuit Break, where he would inject electricity at his opponents using his cables.

[@loftilywrongly3483]

Really exciting collab. Hope these types of videos get more people who watch FSG but don't actually play competitive to watch a few lives and try out showdown.

[@angelwings9549]

i was just thinking recently, sheer force would be a pretty amazing buff for evire just on its own, and especially with moves like volt tackle. pretty much all its moves are boosted, it would be sorta like a faster, stronger nidoking though with a bit worse typing.

[@chauncey123mcallister7]

This should be a series covering all disappointing mons fr 🙏🏾👀

[@thekillakrook1764]

Great video really enjoyed this

[@Shashankkumar-cc8ju]

Just remembered when I used a electivire in radical red That thing is monster in radical red With buffs like getting plasmafist and getting a fighting typing

[@davidhyatoola3127]

Power whip also sounds nice for evire since it’s got those things on its back to use. Would’ve prefer iron fist for ice punch and fire punch and a bigger atk boost. Glad to hear Pokémon experts saying it should’ve gotten close combat. It looks like a fighting type and it looks like it can punch quickly.

[@josemariacanedo2909]

Great video!!! Y’all should do Archeops next!

[@defaultgraycat]

Well, at least Magmortar's attacks are actually scary despite its other weaknesses. Electavire's attacks are just huge whiffs. Honestly I hope both Magmortar and Electavire get a buff somehow in the future.

[@Hazel-qf9hy]

I really loved this❤ wonder how you would go about helping Ledian and Delcatty. Those two really need help.

[@bartvansliedregt5482]

Some great editing on this video

[@cheewinkaewthai8556]

Yooooo Love the collab!!! Still kinda weird hearing kellen's voice without his iconic bgm track tho lol

[@rocketdoggie6441]

The crossover we didn’t deserve, but needed

[@StepBaum]

Really well done competitive educational collab video :)

[@codonbyte]

I want to see more videos like this one!

[@SouperGoose62]

The transitions between clips are wild 😆

[@evertrainingeverstone6069]

Cool looking back at this now that elective does have a 100 BP physical electric move and knock off. It even got bulk up

[@J0S1T067]

And trailblaze to boost the speed

[@dmcmahondm]

I like the idea of a series that answers the question FSG usually asks at the end of their videos, "what would you change about _____ to make it more viable?"

[@smarkwick7814]

I think the move pool plus 10-15 speed would be the sweet spot

[@verattvgc-leo4359]

i cannot believe someone made a whole video about my favorite pokemon whom i have many memories attached to

[@aceofdiamonds4413]

Electivire has always been one of my favs and I hate that I always have to sac it from my teams for better options. I like what you did w E-vire and I wish it was like this already. Great vid

[@lollertoaster]

The font choice for this video was great.

[@HDGamerofficial]

Love this idea! I hope that he gets some kinda buffs in Gen 9 🤞🤞

[@haydeniskander5306]

I actually think a simpler set of buffs exist. Take this with a grain of salt, as I'm *by no means* an expert on competitive battling. (1) Give Electivire Galvanize. You no longer have to add other pokémon's signature moves when you have 144BP STAB Double Edge, or (pre-Gen VIII) 122BP STAB Return. (2) Also (like others have suggested) give it a secondary Fighting-type. That takes its Fighting coverage from 100BP -> 180BP (after STAB). In addition, Focus Blast is now an actually threatening mixup (assuming that it hits). (3) In addition to Close Combat, Fire Blast, Overheat, and Grass Knot (which I completely agree with), I think Explosion would be an extremely flavorful addition to Electivire's kit. This gives it a distinct option compared to Zeraora, and will KO lots of things after STAB + Galvanize. Give Electabuzz most of these moves, too (maybe not Explosion haha). (4) OPTIONAL: trade 10 Sp. Defense for 10 Sp. Attack. Giving Electivire Base Stats 75/123/67/105/73/95. Keeping the BST the same is crucial to keeping it parallel with Magmortar.

[@XenithShadow]

Magmortar is also completly ununsable currently so it could also do with some stat buffs. The actual issue is that tier's are only so big so evire is outclassed by good electric pokemon who are themselve's out classed by better pokemon.

[@haydeniskander5306]

​@@XenithShadow Sure enough. Now I've watched a lot of False Swipe Gaming videos where the pokémon is actually much better than the "Untiered" moniker would indicate (e.g. Leafeon in Gen7). But maybe Magmortar really is that bad. In terms of Magmortar, what do you think of (1) giving Magmortar Mega Launcher as an ability, (2) perhaps making the Pledge moves eligible for a boost, and (3) making Magmortar part Dark, Fighting, or Steel?

[@KingCorbinCosmos]

One of my favorite looking mons. Would love this changes. And yes add bulk up and drain punch, but take away fire blast and overheat

[@epicraptorman]

I could see it getting Flare Blitz too. Something Zebstrika needs alongside Volt Tackle

[@levibauer375]

This is a great format, my only thoughts are the screen is a bit cluttered when you have the new/old movepool and stat changes up at the same time. I’d recommend splitting them up to two screens if you keep this series up!

[@mairain6443]

i think iron fist as a second ability would help it out more plus i would go ice hammer over icicle crash, as it all ready gets hammer arm. so plasma fist, ice hammer plus iron fist makes both 120 power making it more of a wall breaker giving it a niche

[@rohithgeorge7530]

Electivire becomes electric/fighting and gets access to iron fist boosted plasma fists and also STAB close combat making it OU in radical red showdown. On a related note, day 1 of asking joey to check out radical red showdown?

[@CocoLocoToco]

The new seviian forms are interesting

[@rohithgeorge7530]

@@CocoLocoToco seviian Milotic is pure evil . Serene grace with scorching sands shore up and stealth rock with great spdef.

[@CocoLocoToco]

@@rohithgeorge7530 *flashbacks*

[@CocoLocoToco]

I like the new ability of heatmor fatal precision Supereffective moves never miss and i think do more dmg That means u can do choice scarf focus blast against a ttar without it missing. Incredible

[@Sly_Sir]

These feel like Joey is reading off a script from a high school project

[@Chetthew21]

I feel like “give more number” is such a throwaway answer to make a Pokémon more competitively viable compared to the nuanced approaches like move set and stat RE-allocation. Like yeah, bigger number good, duh.

[@majungasaurusaaaa]

Powercreep is real.

[@landocommando7321]

yeah these types of videos are where it’s at. getting into the nuances of the game, specific pokémon, and or strategies. the showdown videos were cool but they get stale sometimes. this sort of content will help keep things fresh

[@YadamanTV1]

I can imagine with those stat boost switching in with motor Drive and using a life orb hammer arm or close c makes sense or giving it volt switch makes sense

[@MattyVice]

Been following False Swipe Gaming since he started, crazy how he just grew

[@dranziken]

3:58 Ice Punch being the same color rectangle in this graph as Thunder Punch made my brain twitch

[@RKOAdeso]

Really nice vid, Hope you plan on doing more. Would love to see some love for Heracross and Pinsir as well as bringing Sceptile up to speed and my personal favourite; Shiftry. Would be a great series all in all. In terms of Electivire, not sure why, but I can see him being Electric/Dark or Steel. Dark would make him extremely frail to physical attacks (Rock, Fighting, Ground) so Steel could thematically make more sense. Love the movepool the guys introduced. Makes him OU standard at the very least with good coverage. I'd like to see him represent something akin to Scizor. He already looks the part and share a similarity in stats (High attack) so was thinking of Technician as the alt ability and then to add a relatively low dmg high priority electric move that he can play around. Or just bullet punch might be enough. Up the bulk to the levels discussed in the vid and you have a mon that can be used in a variety of ways to outmanoeuvre tricky targets. Lots you can do with a mon like Electivire. Really glad this was one of your first.

[@HugeZorse]

Would love to see this video for magmortar next!

[@learn905]

if your going to make electivire a mixed special attacker you should probably also give it ice beam

[@koulam]

Shoutout to that Blunder's TTar with the agency miss

[@valor.dictorian8311]

Oh my god I love the idea of Plasma Fists on Motor Drive Evire, turning Normal-type moves into Elec, potentially getting a Speed boost

[@Ward_bbx_art]

Giving E-vire the fighting fype along with your buffs could be a little to much but i would love to see it

[@TieflingInAJar]

Giving Evire the ability that boosts the punch based moves (I think its called iron fist but I honestly dont remember) would be thematic and a small buff, allowing its punches to hurt a lot more. That and a minor buff to stats and I think he would be serviceable.

[@AWr00tBearII]

Electivire is my favorite pokemon so of course I thought a lot about a buff for them. That move pool is great. I also came up with a new move Electivire could use called Storm Clap: a flying type Fishious Rend. The stat increase you guys suggested is a bit too much. Maybe just +20 points so Hp: 80 Atk: 125 Def: 70 Sp.A: 95 Sp.D: 90 Spd: 100 BST: 560. And for the secondary ability I would give it Sheer Force so that it could use life orb and mix physical and Special moves. But if you are gonna buff Electivire you also have to buff Magmortar so add Scald, Scorching Sand, Flash Cannon, and Energy Ball. Buff it's stats by +20 too. Hp:80 Atk: 95 Def: 75 Sp.A: 130 Sp.D 95 Spd: 85 And for the secondary ability it gets Steam Engine.

[@grunkleg.3110]

Vire should totally be able to learn Power Whip. Look at those tails. Getting hit by one of those would hurt

[@goGothitaLOL]

Hoping you do more of these, cause i dig the idea and concept of this Fix Grapploct: -Make it Fighting/Water (giving it a more respectable set of resistances than it does now) -Give it moves like Mach Punch, Aqua Jet, Flip Turn, and maybe Storm Throw so that it can actually utilize it's Technichan HA...........and Poison Jab for some fairy coverage (which it completely lakcs) -maybe give it a 10+ or 15/20+ to Sp. Def and/or HP (both 80 currently), and maybe 10+ to it's Def (base 90 currently) there, got yourself a actually usable pokemon

[@thomaselias4822]

keep making these type of videos

[@Shadowmeire]

I liked what you did here. I would also give it Iron Fist as an alternate non-HA ability, and either Mach Punch or Bullet Punch as a priority move, and also Meteor Mash

[@armorbearer9702]

Belly Drum and Aqua Tail would be good options for Electivire. Most of Electivire's dex entries are about how it uses its tail. His other dex entries state that Electiver loves to pound its chest when it gets excited. If these two moves are combined, Electivire would have the power to sweep fire type threats in OU.

[@warvinn]

I feel like giving it CC and Knock off makes it too generic, love the rest though

[@ohmnabar3104]

I think CC makes sense thematically, I agree Knock Off is too much though

[@ChadBeetle]

radred evire is really good but not broken, very similar to this but with iron fist and no icicle crash. it also got a fighting subtyping and mach punch.

[@seda_11]

I liked some of your script reading on the FSG video a bit better, this one is kinda rough. Good to see you continue trying new forms of content tho

[@GlalGamingPanda]

Power Whip could also be a possible Grass type move, shakey accuracy but at least has consistent base power. And would work thematically as Electivire has those tail/cord things. Lickilicky can learn it so why not?