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[@NostalgiaNomics]

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[@ESP-Collectibles]

Im dying for a gen 2 re boot like 151

[@29EARZ]

Same, johto gets shunned the most. HG/SS was pinnacle of Pokemon

[@ESP-Collectibles]

@@29EARZ totally agree gold silver era was so hyped back then. 1/4 century ago..🤯

[@monkey39128]

We wont know if this is a problem until the kids grow up and we see what they buy. It's an interesting topic.

[@ShinyRaequaza]

I think the new gen problem is a problem. People not promoting the new pokemon and saying meh no gen 1 pokemon, this set has no chase is an issue. But think about it. Every gen has a small group of favorites. Let’s be honest. Gen 1 is the big 3, Mewtwo, Mew, DNite, Gyarados, Alakazam, Pikachu, eevee. Then you have some maybes like Snorlax, Arcanine, Magikarp. That’s 10 no doubt Pokemon out of 151. No generation has 151 pokemon so if Gen 9 has 5 favorites but only 80 Pokemon, that’s really not that bad. If you make a set have Starmie as the chase instead of Zard, it’s not selling for 1/4 of the price. Now you can do this for every generation. I agree that Pokemon has a problem but this is also on the fanbase/influencers. If all of you say every set without a Gen 1/2 fav as the chase sucks, you’re pushing for Pokemon to not grow and just cater to people that started in the late 90s/early 2000s. People should stop worrying about pumping SWSH sets and pump loving new generation arts. Roaring Moon is a sick design. Dragapult (Gen 8) is a sick design. There are plenty of cool designs in these new gens but people go into new stuff close minded. This is the same thing as old heads hating every new NBA player. Lebron is too soft he’d never last in my 90s with Jordan. It’s bad for the product.

[@monkey39128]

That was very well reasoned. I'm loving the new designs.

[@monkey39128]

It's also too early to tell whether people want it. They were printing too much until Temporal Forces. Lets see how sets get on past that. I've quite enjoyed them trying something a bit different. The only thing I want from them now is 151 for Johto! Those are my childhood Pokemon.

[@brenintate1686]

I don’t think they’re printing too much people just don’t care to open it as much hence what he mentioned in video.

[@monkey39128]

@@brenintate1686 Swings and roundabouts. All works out to the same conclusion.

[@tobynicholas7156]

New Pokémon aren’t for the older collectors they’re for the new generation of collectors, the younger kids who aren’t on KZbin who aren’t investing. This gives off a very narrow view when you just look at collectors you surround yourself with. The amount of Pokémon that people care about is getting lower and lower because we don’t have a connection to these Pokémon like we have in the older ones. We have these connections to these Pokémon we form as a kid. The idea on designs are very biased towards what you grew up with giving the impression that the older ones are a lot better but nostalgia plays a large part in that too.

[@ajithrajaful]

true, didnt the newest gen 9 pokemon game on the switch sell the most in pokemon history or something like that?

[@monkey39128]

@@ajithrajaful I've got to admit, this generation has drawn me back into enjoying new Pokémon. So many cool looking ones this time around.

[@Zachstahh]

I agree with everything you said but I think they are trying so hard with gen 9 because it’s kind of like “Gen 1 2.0” the brand new anime series starts with our main character exploring paldea so I think they want to resonate with the people starting Pokémon with the new anime and of course the games. I would prefer older Pokémon but I think it makes sense what they are trying to do the only ones who really have a problem with it are the investors. The kids and casual collectors really like S&V TCG pretty sure

[@scottabbot896]

I wonder if we'll see some of these newer pokemon grow on people down the line, and eventually being able to carry a set. I've heard you bring up a few times how giratina has emerged as a pokemon that can carry a set by itself. I'm not sure if giratina was always a fan favorite, or if over time it grew on people. Would be kinda funny if it was similar to how initially everyone will think a set is trash, and then a few years go by and all of a sudden it's the greatest set of all time 🤣

[@RyukADA]

I think it may be counterintuitive, but pokemon not only wants to make sets that feature the new pokemon, they also want to make weaker sets that appeal to the players. As they make more and more weaker sets back to back, it makes the upcoming "great" sets THAT much greater for collectors. If we had back to back great sets for ever, it would put way more pressure on pokemon to keep raising the bar. Oh how a set similar in strength to Lost Origin/Evolving skies/crown zenith would be adored if it came out today. That breth of fresh air feeling can only come after a lull rather than after constant stimuli, if you catch my drift.

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Hmmm... good points.

[@camerontayfour8897]

So what happens if Pokemon starts to focus on popular Pokemon. We have a couple more sets where the DLC pokemon are the main focus of the set (similar to CR and Battle Styles). After that, Pokemon can start focusing on Pokemon that consumers actually want to chase. Don't you think people would rather invest/collect those sets than go back to a set like Paldea Evolved where your best card is a Illustration Rare Magikarp... with terrible quality.

[@Theu131]

They are hopefully gonna do that with scarlet violet . Temporal forces, paradox rift and twilight masquerade are all the new stuff, hopefully moving on will be more like sword and shield was after battle styles and chilling reign. All the trainer gallery sets were based off favorites, we had a charizard, palkia/dialgA, giratina , lugia sets. I imagine they will try and do the same again.

[@Pokepanther15]

Gen 1-3 is the prime of Pokémon imo

[@flare31777]

This is interesting topic and I think you are right. This would be great if they do some kind of fusion team cards where legendaries would appear on the cards with a new gen 9 pokemon. That would help a lot to popularize new pokemons

[@Theu131]

They need to do tag teams again. A Venusaur sprigatito , or charizard fuecoco combo would kill. You could even do a gardevoir iron valiant team up. Stuff like that.

[@MrGuitarfreak132]

I’ll always be more attached to the gen 1 and 2 pokemon and some select others after like Rayquaza, Giratina, Milotic, etc. BUT there are a few new pokemon that are in my opinion phenomenal and I’m surprised they aren’t more popular. Miraidon and Koraidon are both fantastic! And their SIR’s and promo cards are amazing. Scream tail is fantastic. I want so bad them to add a scream tail skin for jigglypuff in super smash bros. Would be hilariously amazing. Roaring Moon is I think a better design than salamance. Iron valiant is a better design than Gallade. They could have done a better job with naming.

[@benwoods7212]

This is all true. However, a Pokémon is a Pokemon is a Pokemon. People will like and collect what they like and at the end of the day, they are all Pokemon. This is why we typically analyze a set based on what the contents of it are based on what people want and like in a general sense. S&V is trying to push a lot of new stuff and I think long terms that may actually help it depending on where things go. Time will tell the story. But there will always be value in most of these sets long term in some context beyond MSRP.

[@Therealtsnap]

Alex you should look into putting a little NN watermark on your videos in the corner will make it look officialll

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Thanks. I will consider that

[@YetAnotherDUFCouple]

I want a Max Holloway signature on a rainbow rare Charizard card, because Pokémon tcg is forever blessed. Seriously a CRAZY stacked card. Just like Charizard. Much love to your channel!

[@user-jr4ev2iz9p]

There's no doubt as Pokemon goes on, the characters start to feel more forced with their creativity

[@DoteyMagotey]

On the flip side, my kid loves Miraidon and I just picked up a PSA 10 worthy SIR for under $15. If Miraidon DOES catch on with kids of this era then that purchase will feel like a steal when the kid is grown up and rediscovers his old cards!

[@monkey39128]

Yeah I'd imagine a lot of these Pokemon will get more popular as the kids from that era grow up. We've already seen that with some of the middle generations.

[@lowdowndirty100]

I think the new pokemon just lack creativity. I don’t need new pokemon every year, I just need the new pokemon released to not be derps that look like a 3rd grader created them

[@colinmiller2934]

I’m just hoping they’ve been saving all the cool Pokémon designs for gen 10

[@monkey39128]

Yeah where's my three headed Charizard?! 😂

[@Peeweez0]

I know kids like Pokemon these days but which Pokemon do they even like? Sometimes I feel my daughter just likes Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon because I like them and put more emphasis on them when I see them on cards or on the anime

[@risensparrow]

I want more D&P pokemon in sets with good arts

[@gregsmith6151]

I think part of the problem is collectors don't age as fast as card generations. Most collectors relate heavily with Gen 1,2 and 3 because it was their childhood. Wait until the children of today are the collectors in their late 20s to 30s and see which cards/sets have value and are chased.

[@shagsportscards2525]

Its going to take time. Pokémon is still young in terms of Age. We are the ones that grew up with the first 3ish generations of Pokémon. There is still Kids and Young adults that will be coming into this hobby as they get older that Grew up / Growing up with Different Starter Pokémon playing the games learning the new Pokémon. Its just gonna take another 10+ years unfortunately in my opinion.

[@NostalgiaNomics]

I agree with this. It's too early to tell how things will progress.

[@skylerwheeler3974]

I think its gunna be ok. The big hit value cards now are gen 1 - 4 pokemon because thats the generation the people with money grew up with. As time goes on the later generations pokemon cards will go up in value when those generations kids that grew up with them have money. 15 or 20 years from now i bet those 15 dollar moriadon and koriadon cards will be expensive

[@SeaBarr00]

I’d love for Pokémon to come out with another Gold Star/Shining PKMN deal of Gen 1-3 as another “special set”

[@penthousecards]

what i can see going foward long term. if they cant fix this issue... pokemon will fail. maybe in 15 years. you can only make so much of a single pokemon card per generation. if each set has the same rotation of pokemon itll get boring or repetitive. i hope they can figure it out!

[@buffalobill9793]

Exactly. I put this mostly on the old timers who only seem to give a shit about gen 1 which is influencing all the younger collectors but supported by Pokemon who keeps printing stuff like 151 to feed it.

[@monkey39128]

When are they making that giant Dragonite from the anime into a card? I want that.

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Yes! That!!

[@johnkim9086]

Pokemon has been lacking ever since temporal forces. With Mask of trash with those masks as SAR seems very lack luster. They need to unleash the rayquaza next set for the $

[@joshuagreaves7381]

Mask of trash 😂 Great comment

[@kylewarren5268]

I'm selling a bunch of singles from 2012-2017, and I haven't even ever seen or heard of most of these pokemon. Lol. There is way too many

[@WhatiSay1]

Good vid N2, I think the younger collectors will come around. The current collectors will as well, but it will take some time for them to appreciate the SV art.

[@HoneyBeeTCG]

100% agree with you Alex the new pokemon are not as well designed especially the paradox pokemon they dont need regional dumb forms of past legendarys they need new good pokemon like ruby and sapphire genereation

[@firefilterphoto]

can someone explain what a Gen. 1/2/3 Pokemon are?

[@UrAveragePlayer0]

Generation in Pokémon is the segment of Pokemon released with a main game release, Gen 1: Kanto Gen 2: Johto and so on

[@user-jr4ev2iz9p]

Let me google that for you

[@interpolcm]

can you please upgrade your mic and camera it’s driving me insane

[@chasingchases6678]

Sv is already dominated by early generations. Zard bdif... lugia, mew, pidgot, greninja,legendary dogs, snorlax, ect.,top meta staples TF is a fair attempt at forcing some beautiful and playable new gen stuff imo. At a time when attendance at regional events breaking records. Might bleed over to pure collectors. Who knows 😅

[@nas84payne]

This era still has a few popular Pokémon: Meowscarada, Tinkaton, the starters…

[@NostalgiaNomics]

💯

[@joshuagreaves7381]

The generations after gen3 may as well not be there. Waste of oxygen.

[@restockshock2710]

the issue isn't the new pokemon most of us would love a well designed dragon type or ghost type issue is they make crap artwork cards....like ogeperon stupid hat pokemon tera types....like those tera types would be dope if no stupid hat full crystal pokemon with a cool background instead of normal full art vibe make it spicy not bland and basic meh

[@ShinyRaequaza]

Insane card. Max Holloway is a legend. Diego Lopes deserved a bonus alongside Max and Pereira. Can’t just give the millionaires the bonus!

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Ya I think Dana said he was going to take care of some of those guys which is cool

[@gnostikz8995]

They need to make a decemt movie put it on at cinema with a promo like ancient mew. . Or an accessable series kids can watch. Thersnalot of kids parants cant affort netflix.

[@KingLugia2022]

They need to make some more new favorite pokemon. Gen 9 are you kidding me?! What grade was that psa Groudon in the back ground?

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Groudon Got The 10!

[@lurkinloooowry]

They need numbered &/or signed cards by the artist. Even live signatures would be so awesome, that can actually be pulled from packs. It might even cause riots up in Walmart again.

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Ya I hope they eventually do something like that

[@buffalobill9793]

Numbered cards would be great but I wouldn't bet on it. See in order to have numbered cards Pokemon would have to print the whole run and then break the plates. In order for numbered cards to work properly Pokemon would have to stop their reprint bullshit and since Pokemon likes to reprint whenever and however much it wants numbered Pokemon cards seems a long ways off.

[@cesarg3561]

I feel like you just need time give the new Pokémon some time. I remember when black and white came out with all new Pokédex and I didn’t like it at the time. But now I like them more than S&V new ones

[@HotToddySmash]

Once Legends Z-A drops we’ll probably see new megas of Gen 1-6 Pokémon so I’m sure sets will have more of what people are looking for around then.

[@monkey39128]

Is that Joseph Joestar?

[@alexbeck5768]

Hey, I stumbled across your channel and love yoour videos! I own a tcg business and was looking to see about possibly doing a collaboration?

[@NostalgiaNomics]

O cool. Feel free to reach out. You can dm me on my discord or @nostalgianomics on instagram.

[@alexbeck5768]

@@NostalgiaNomics Just sent a dm Yesterday!

[@TeddyBrooski-th9qx]

Ever since I pulled my second Magikarp out of that booster bundle Last week, I open eight booster BOXES and I got two iono sir, 2 chien poa sir, and finally on the eighth booster box I hit my third Magikarp smh lol now I switch to one piece awakening of the new Era and it’s your fault because I watched your video and I saw those prices and bang today I got a English booster box and four loose packs from my local shop I traded three Charizard SIR151, that third Magikarp I pulled out of that eighth booster box because that one was horribly off centered, and one Iono SIR

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Geeze that is some fire right there! I dunno about letting all of that go for OP but ya never know...

[@TeddyBrooski-th9qx]

Well I wasn’t going to pay cash and I pulled out of those Charizard’s SIRs from 151 and to iono And three magikarps Plus I only open one piece when it’s loose packs I am collecting the booster boxes sealed.. Going to trade bulk today for another one trying to have 10 booster boxes within two weeks

[@TeddyBrooski-th9qx]

8 and 2 not out of* and to* lol talk texting

[@kedjfj798]

i mean we have now skyscrappers as a pokemon... fair enough to not like those new gens XD

[@nickl2217]

Psyduck and magikrap I’ll buy everyone I find

[@newjones1754]

and Charizard with a crown is not Charizard

[@gnostikz8995]

And i bet. Give it a few years and everyone will love s&v , facts of life is that history repeats.

[@Djan252]

Don’t you think the kids off today will be us in 10-20 years and really love the gen 9 Pokémon like we love the gen 1? So in a couple of years scarlet & violet will go crazy. That’s how I see it and why I invest in scarlet en violet as much as I can

[@buffalobill9793]

I don't see things going that way. 9 times out of 10 if the parents are Toronto Maple Leaf fans the kids will grow up to be Toronto Maple Leaf fans. Same for Pokemon. The kids are going to most often like the same Pokemon their parents do and Pokemon isn't helping matters by printing 151.

[@buffalobill9793]

Also I don't think S&V will ever be very popular. Print runs too high and chase cards not rare enough.

[@Djan252]

@@buffalobill9793 I get what you are saying and I agree with you. But still the team changes. Where the parents have a connection with the past player the kids will have a connection with the current players. Same will be with Pokémon because the packs that kids can afford today are the ones from scarlet & violet because they are still affordable. Long term I think is will do very good imo

[@PatTattsPowerChannel]

Strongly agree with you on this 1 ✊😎🔥

[@fireballgaming345]

I definitely believe Pokémon can stop creating more Pokémon. They can try and bring these new Pokémon up through the games and show and slowly through the cards by making them highly playable cards in the tcg and giving sick art work and high rarity. Slowly but surely, but definitely stop creating. Some are just flat out dumb looking compared to first few gens. Please Pokémon, no more...please.....

[@jacobbhendersonn3529]

Nostalgia Nomics is by far my fav channel

[@NostalgiaNomics]

YOOOO! Appreciate that brother! Glad you are enjoying the vids.

[@MrToco23]

Totally right, the most expensive alt arts are all Gen 1 or 2 Pokemon that basically says it all. Giratina and Ray being the exceptions which is not surprising since both are really popular.

[@rosettaaraara6633]

Its definitely an influencer problem not the problem with any of the new gen pokemon. People will literally cry every set that doesnt seem to have a gen 1 chase lmao 😂

[@NostalgiaNomics]

I am not crying about it. I am just looking at the past 10 years of data and which cards sell for the most money...

[@rosettaaraara6633]

@@NostalgiaNomicsim gonna be honest the poketubing investing space is in its own Gen 1 bubble that doesn’t account for any other part of the franchise. Its all on the influencers constantly dumping on the new not giving the space and time to age but at the same time magically surprised when it pops off.

[@NostalgiaNomics]

@rosettaaraara6633 Hey I'm with you. I have been pushing for SV era. I have even picked up slabs of ghe new starters, new legendary pokemon etc.

[@grantkearney6354]

100% Agreed.

[@joshuagreaves7381]

The new generations are awful. The latest generation has a Pokémon which is basically just an apple

[@livefree7005]

Facts

[@connorism69]

A return to the old (pre E-Reader series) WoTC designs would be huge if they bring out a 251 set. As for original stuff, I think a focus on quantity over quality is the issue. There's no reason why they can't come up with creatures just as good as (or better than) some of the early ones.

[@Astrolovescrypto]

As a person new to poke-investing. Is sounds like pokemon releases set too fast for anyone to fall in love with the new Pokémon. But I could be wrong

[@NostalgiaNomics]

I agree. We could do with less sets each year for sure.

[@FrozenShadoW918]

They can do tag team new with old

[@RichyDYupYup]

Interesting idea. They should also bring back Dark pokemon.

[@FrozenShadoW918]

@@RichyDYupYup I always loved Dark Pokemon!

[@KyzeeKy]

The Goat brother

[@SDCISHERE]

Folks 1-6 😂

[@jessm9504]

Say this with every new set that comes out. Temporal Forces with a Gengar SIR would have been great. Also. Give me a damn OG Arcanine SIR. 😭😭😭 Come on Pokemon! Hahaha

[@dvorakviolin]

Aren't you worried that the market will shift from old pokemon to new pokemon long term? I'd probably consider old pokemon a "developed market" and new pokemon an "emerging market" and diversify my portfolio accordingly so that I can win big, or at least not lose as much, if the market shifts.

[@NostalgiaNomics]

It's always a possibility

[@kedjfj798]

alot of peoples are collecting 1 pokemon from og era so i think pokemon will always put og pokemon as top sets in the newest sets

[@adammanning1355]

Ilia Topuria looked terrified of Max after he ko'd Justin, and then as soon as he realized the camera was pointed at him he put his poker face back on 😂

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Hahaha I thought the exact same thing. Hilarious 😂

[@kedjfj798]

at the same time, we could have said this at diamond and pearl, or like black and white if u prefer, and look how great swsh is doing

[@jorgeventura1582]

Need a new team rockets set!!

[@monkey39128]

I want this so much!

[@mikespandinator2054]

Love the content

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Appreciate it

[@brenintate1686]

Best video you’ve made Alex! I love how people try to debate this but it’s so obvious and you hit it on the head!!!

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Appreciate that!

[@MajorenSnor]

I do love a lot of the new monsters though, but yeah I guess you're not completely wrong

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Same here. I actually like them top and think they are under appreciated currently

[@TheMpmpmpmpmpmp]

The only problem is the pokemon company's lack of creativity. There are so many arts, ideas that can propel sets. Take tag team for example. Gen 2 has practically been ignored for past 20 sets. Pokemon isn't really good at giving people what they want or innovating.

[@clownworld8328]

Just come out and say it, new gen is trash. 😂😂

[@ItsHooDie]

One of the problems is this channels. Talking about how the production of cards went up 600% might be a factor/the only reason. And the fact cards are still climbing is the real crazy thing. Japanese has gone down… laughable. Go look at the Japanese market. Stop talking in paragraphs when every sentences discredited your main point.

[@martinmitchell8061]

😂 you sound dumb

[@monkey39128]

It's weird that a lot of Japanese cards are so cheap, especially on the vintage side. Can't imagine it'll last forever but I'm enjoying it while it lasts.

[@ChanceTime91]

I think it’s because the chase for a PSA 10 is harder for English because of print quality. Japanese quality is much better so it’s easier to get 10’s

[@XingCollectables]

Vitage japanese was guaranteed a holo in every pack. That's why those are so cheap ​@monkey39128

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Hey just keep being angry that modern continues to outperform all expectations 😂

[@GloveTouchedCollectibles]

Even the pre lims... absolutely fire card

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Ya they definitely delivered all night!

[@PokeCollecatbles]

I'm Vaporeon all day I'm literally just waiting for the next evolving skies set for Scarlett and viloet then Pokémon can take my wallet till then my wallets locked brilliant stars and crown been my go too while I'm waiting for next big Eevee set would love see ex evolutions again Ex espeon and Ex umbreon full art from xy are some my favourite cards with gold outline was peak FullArt texture

[@PoNGaCollectibles]

Yes

[@warriorsdynastypart275]

Max Halloway dropped him

[@patescortez88]

Bring back rayqaza he is the best dragon

[@rell660]

They have to wait for our generation to grow older for a better balance of pokemon fandom. Basically anyone over 30 prefers generation 1. People who grew up with other gens aren't entering their prime earning years yet. And that's not bad for Pokemon. They'll have a more balanced fandom in the future.

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