Pokemon Theory: Gym Leader Qualifications?

[@OracleAesir1]

I always assumed that Gym Leaders have loads of Pokemon available to them and they just alter their team based on their challenger's team. Such as in Gen1/3 Brock used just his Geodude and Onix against his challengers who have no badges, but when you challenge him in Gen2/4 he has massive Pokemon, as you have 8+ badges (this is also evidenced by local Pokemon being low leveled too.

[@TIAMOTRPD]

they also explain that more in the Pokemon Origins Movie thing. Brock has a team of 6 but asked Red how many badges he has. Since he has none he just used Geodude and Onxy.

[@OneThousandHowards]

TIAMOTRPD This also, could suggest, that a trainer didn't HAVE to defeat the gym leaders in any perticular order, however, I do belive that would be the best corse of action because I don't see Kogan just using his Muk against your level 6 caterpie.

[@millgiass]

I like how Pokemon Origin showed it. He took it easy on Red his difficulty being based on Red's experience. He asked him right before the battle. "Do you have any badges?" "No" "I'll use these two then."

[@lucifercon4868]

they must use different Pokémon and strategy depending on the skill of the trainer. I wish they do that with games, where you can challenge the gyms in any order and that affect the difficulty in the other ones.

[@millgiass]

Lucifer Con That would add some depth to the games.

[@Coxsterify]

They reference it in the Black 2 and White 2 games that the gym leaders have stronger pokemon but are forced to use weaker pokemon for the challenger's sake. I am specifically talking about Cheren and his conversation with Professor Juniper shortly after you get the badge from his gym

[@alexkennedy4990]

This is also shown in Pokemon Origins.

[@kyetaaffe515]

my god I actually thought when you mentioned the no level restrictions thing that you actually weren't going to reference Pokemon Origins and how Brock (and possibly all gym leaders) challenge you with Pokemon that are leveled based on the number of gym badges you have (btw kudos to you for mentioning that, I was impressed by that)

[@Jasmine11112]

What I usually think is that all Gym Leaders have 6 Pokemon, but by seeing how many badges each trainer has, they know how many to use. Notice how in Origins, Brock says: "I'll use these two" and takes Geodude and Onix from a group of 6 Pokemon.

[@Rhall7191]

sigh...this guy keeps forgetting important facts we have gotten to know like that not just anyone can face the elite 4, you have to present all the badges to proceed and (while he said not to mention the manga, i think the anime is still valid) in pokemon origins brock picked his team based on how many badges his opponent already had... I think a little bit more research could have been done here to clean up his hypothesis and make for a stronger concept

[@xXSCDTXx]

Exactly what I was gonna say

[@original_mr_pineapple4693]

Lol a little late to say, but this video was made before Pokemon origins. This was October 2013 and origins was released November of that year smh saying he should of used evidence that he couldn't have even known about

[@evyshay3586]

cCgj

[@kalli-woo-9488]

everytime someone questions the level of a leaders pokemon i talk about how in origins it shows how it works brock uses certain pokemon based on the enemies badges so obviously thats how it works

[@dancollinson994]

Depending on your amount of badges is the level of pokemon. After beating the game falkner has level 60 pokemons!

[@ProtoMario]

There are a large number of references in X and Y like Team Plasma in Unova and Blue visiting Kalos saying "smell ya later".

[@OuroborosChoked]

I wish the Pokemon games would allow you to become a gym leader... like instead of doing the same old ten year old on a quest to become a Pokemon master and, in so doing, save the world... What if you were a bit older... having already gone on your quest, but put Pokemon battling aside a few years back... now your local gym is holding a contest for a new leader and you decide to get back into the game. In order to do so, you have to recertify by getting all the badges again, raising a new team, picking a specialty, and so on... or at least have that as a post-game option, you know? And then you can work your way to being in the elite four.

[@katiebirdie7868]

It would be cool, but probably only a spinoff.

[@nahynoklauq771]

Holy sh*t, if we push it a little bit more, we can imagine a Pokemon game where the protagonist doesn't want to capture all the pokemon but only to become a Gym Leader ! A new story for this game 0^0

[@tarikbegovic]

Nahyn Oklauq you can kinda make gyms in OR/AS.

[@matthewassuncao6038]

Or a game where you cane choose your own path champion,professor,elite four,champion, or simply do whatever you want

[@TheTruth-ui5eq]

I think they should keep it the same BUT have that as a post game after beating the champion!

[@Sparrow9612]

Got a potential subject for a future video, if you haven't done it already: When Machop evolves, how does it gain a belt and trunks that were not there before? Same for such Pokemon as Jynx (dress), and Hitmonchan (gloves, if they are not its hands).

[@charlesglanville8183]

Hey Proto i got a question or a threory for ya. In Gen 1 how does the pokemart attendee know that your character is from Pallet Town?

[@whatsupdoc4709]

In the original red, blue, and yellow games bill is accidentally turned into a rattata. What if the same thing happened to meouth and his back story is a cover up. What if that is why he can't learn new attacks (you reference that in your other videos) and what if the reason he works so hard for geovoni is because he will restore his body back to being a human if he catches a good Pokemon for him?

[@ProtoMario]

He was on a journey to become stronger, this can be seen in the time link with Celebi in Heart Gold and Soul Silver.

[@ProtoMario]

They are both ghost/dark types. They may have no weakness, but they are also underpowered in all area's.

[@om0206]

But proto! You saw pokemon origins. The gym leaders use a certain level of pokemons since they can see your levels. Brock knew that this would be red's first gym battle so he used his 2 weakest pokemon.

[@BangDeadPikachu]

This is also confirmed by Cheren in B2/W2 after you beat him and walk outside. He complains to Bianca that it would be far easier to use his regular team.

[@BenGTheGreatBGTG]

this was made after origins actually

[@ProtoMario]

I like Poison and Normal Types, Status afflictions can make or break a match.

[@DonovanLloyd]

Not to be rude, but, technically Onix was a fully evolved Pokémon(Steelix didn't exist until Gen 2, Brock was a Gen 1 Gym Leader

[@benatmos]

Love that picture with Volkner and Jasmine. It's a moment I almost forgot in Diamond / Pearl.

[@RainMuffinLPS]

wait.. if pokemon cant die, then why is charmanders pokedex entry say that if the fire on its tail burns out, it dies.?

[@vizardhoas]

I thought it said it can't battle

[@yellowpig1026]

vizardhoas no i think it did say that they die

[@yellowpig1026]

***** what he sayed is that they don't AGE if they couldn't die they're would be no resion for lavender town

[@thehikoreport]

though this is not a pokemon theory I'd like to hear what you have to say about these questions. What would be you team as a gym leader/elite 4? (If leader what badge?) What region would you like to be in or would you make one up? How would you run your gym? If playing a game what kind of puzzle would your gym be?

[@jonfalan]

In Pokemon Black and White 2, Cheren directly references that he would have won if he were allowed to use his real pokemon. Meaning that there are the trainer's pokemon and the gym's pokemon. And it also shows that a person has to do something great to be able to qualify to be a gym leader, if there is a space open.

[@ProtoMario]

How many copies of X and Y were sold again???

[@gingerdwarfKO]

i think that the level of the pokemon is based on how many gym badges the trainer has, lots of examples can be brought up like for instance when Cheren became a gym Leader in B&W 2, he used weaker pokemon like Lillipup but later on when you can fight in the PWT he has his Stoutland again.

[@ProtoMario]

That is not true, because if you use gameshark codes, or in Gen 1 Kanto you can chose which gyms to challenge later on. You do not even really need to challenge Erika, Sabrina, or Koga first to defeat the 3. If you can make it to Blaine too you do not need any badges to challenge.

[@ProtoMario]

They have to maintain a presents, Giovanni is a fine example of doing whatever the F he wants. But he did return eventually.

[@andreamsp86]

My teory is that the gym leader chooses his pokemons and the dificulty accordingly to how many bedges the contestand already have.

[@33jedi]

Proto can you explain mega evolution? I mean unlike normal pokemon evolution it only lasts for a short time and, also along with it why Charizard becomes a dragon type only when he evolves to Mega X and not Mega Y?

[@supermatrum]

@robinwayne poke balls have a unique signature that attaches to the Pokemon. Once they're captured its more like their spirits are released from the poke ball, so the only way to capture is to take the poke ball

[@i.m.solomon2280]

I still think (cus I meantioned this in the Elite Four Theory) that if you become a champion in the earlier years of your journey, you meet a requirement to become a gym leader later on when a spot opens up and you meet other requirements and qualifications, explaining Blue (also Blue is Prof. Oak's grandson so his inherent genius is a pass to his ability to be a gym leader so young and not have to have a type specific gym). The anime "Origins" helps support the idea that gym leader have different level Pokémon for different trainers. Also, the actual anime supports this too with Falkner being able to battle Ash's high level Charizard and Pikachu with a high level Pidgeot but Chikorita faced a low level Hoothoot, all while being the first gym. If a rookie trainer had to go up against a Pidgeot as a first gym then their dreams of being champion are crushed right off the back. Champions can be anyone who was champion in the past and if this theory that I've already explained is correct it would explain why Wallace from the Sootopolis City Gym in Hoehn was able to become Champion out of the blue. And once a Gym Leader as reached a certain level in their career then they can be requested to take over as an Elite Four member like Koga and who's to say there weren't other Elite Four members in the past because Lorelei and Agatha got replaced and Flannery of Lavaridge Town's gym says her grandfather used to be a member of the Elite Four.

[@kommo1]

I think that one requirement is to have a broad range off different level pokemon. They look at the number off badges the challenger has and choose accordingly. You also have to consider that they may even battle several trainers a day, which would be impossible if they only had the few pokemon we see during the matches. Going by that the gym battle against Giovanni would have been a lot different, if he had been in his gym when Red there for the first time.

[@josephschubert6561]

1:16 Pokemon Origins covers this. "then I will use these two Pokemon in our battle." the Gym Leaders have different level pokemon for different skill levels.

[@ProtoMario]

Some Dragons are stronger SPC att and Att. While some exhibit characteristics of their region, like Flygon.

[@LawfullSpook]

If you watch origins you will clearly see brock choose 2 of hisbpokemon when red says he has no badges yet. This would mean tjat brock and by exstention all leaders do indeed have stronger pokemon , but choose which to use depending on the challenger. depending where you live brock could be the 1st gym you visit or the 8th :).

[@Lagacy]

I have something to add if ur parent was a gym leader there is a shot that they will make u one when they retire

[@Ninj7]

I've seen a couple comments basically saying the same thing, it was even briefly mentioned in the video. But all Gym leaders, even the E4 and Champion are trainers who went on a journey one way or another. So it makes sense that they've all caught multiple pokemon. So when they are challenged they have to use the pokemon at their disposal equal to the challengers level. So it is obvious that they all have their own "main" team that they've used on their original journey. This can be proven true, that they do have multiple pokemon, in every game when you re-challenge the league and they have pokemon 20 levels higher. As well as in gen two when you challenge the kanto gyms, whom have higher levels or equal to the league. Lastly, as to how one becomes a league member or a gym leader. lets start with the league, I believe when a challenger takes the challenge and becomes the new champion the old champion becomes E4 number 4, number 4 becomes 3 and so on. I.E. They get bumped down, and the first member gets kicked off. As seen in gen 1 where Blue is the new champion and Lance is bumped down. Now for the gyms, well, this is merely speculation, however gym leaders are the kicked off league members or challengers who failed. Though they failed they demonstrated potential, enough to become a gym leader. And old league members whom are already known to be strong, also apply to this rule.

[@edgargarcia6552]

Hey ProtoMario, i have been wondering if pokemons names are actually their names or if thats what the humans call them since its the only thing the pokemon say, for example, pikachu, a pikachu only says "pika pika pikachu" onix only says "Ooooonix" geodude says "Geodude" i might be just me and that i have fallen of pokemon a while but i have always wodered about that. ProtoMario

[@ProtoMario]

Edgar Garcia Alot of people are curious about that.

[@kandykane594]

The vietnamese and egyptian names for cats, is mao. So it's more than likely that they were named for what they say rather than them speaking what humans call them. Think about it, dogs don't go around going "do do dog" But that's only in the anime. It wasn't until recently that the main games had any pokemon say their own name (Pikachu), they always had cries. So it probably depends on which you're basing it on, in the anime it was probably due to what the pokemon said, while in the games it was more than likely names given to the pokemon by humans since they don't say their own names and just make sounds.

[@andrewthegodunicorn2707]

Vietnamese is mèo

[@kanra_yepitme]

Pokemon don't "say their name" Humans named them after the onomonapeia of the sound they make. It would be like if we named cats "meows" instead of cats, not the only sound they make but one we can reference them by.

[@BLACKGEAR026]

I have a theory, it is a counter to the digital one. my thory that the pokeballs shrink the pokemon not nessisarily convert them into data and that the light is a transportation beam. this comes form the early concept art and the manga which is the world more like what the creators intended rather than the kid pleasing money hungry anime. as u can see in the manga the pokemon can see through the actual pokeball top. ths goes to the pc system aswell where in the anime the pokemon went to professor oak not on an actual pc. ass bill made the pc storqage transport system u see in the manga more about it. its more of a transport rather than data storage, same with the pokemon ep where nurse joy has to send the pokemon to another centre, rather thn having all the pokeballs in a data storage device. so simply the pc system is just a user interface and the pokeballs and mokemon are sent to respective professors or stored in health and food providing storage containers.

[@Jochira_VTuber]

I've Always agreed about the adjusting part... and maybe, originally, so must they focus on a certain type (Blue being an expection, possibly since they wanted to him to take Giovanni's Place while they was looking for a replacement since Giovanni decided to resign)

[@Brickzcity201]

how much do gym leaders get paid

[@luketheforce373]

I wonder if its the money that trainers pay them when they lose the battle.

[@mangetout7931]

I don't think they do...

[@CrossLucane]

I agree with Luke. In the anime, meeting someone with badges is a big deal, so beating a gym leader isn't easy. And you, the player, pay a fee if you lose, of course. Aside from that, they're probably financed to some degree by the pokemon league, but some also have side jobs (Blain runs a resort, Wake=pro wrestler, Viola=photographer, etc.).

[@multivewer]

1:34 is that a pic from the Manga?

[@robertking559]

I'd like to believe that the Pokemon Animation's focused on the games were more likely how they occurred in the game. I.e.: Brock asking "You don't have any badges? Okay, I'll use these Pokemon".

[@696FLOW]

I'd just like to say that i, before you mentioned it, came to the conclusion that gym leaders use pokemon that are around the same level as yours for that chance at victory and was glad to hear the same idea from you.

[@youngbounty1394]

I do agree with you in mentioning about Brock, in Pokemon Origins, choosing Pokemon of a certain level depending on the trainer's skill with Pokemon. I also believe it depends on where the trainer lives from city to city. There's also the fact someone could become a gym leader by taking their gym leader parent's position. I think one of the requirements is that this person has to be a pokemon trainer with the training and experience to become one. Reasoning for being a gym leader is also important because of the responsibilities it includes from being a gym leader. I don't think a trainer can be a gym leader from having no skills or level of training at all. Level represents experience, gym badges represent skill, and knowledge you need to know about Pokemon are required. Knowledge can come from the Pokemon schools shown in the game. Green probably got this knowledge, since he does have a pokedex and studied under Professor Oak. That's why he was able to become gym leader. If a gym leader doesn't have one of these, then it's not going to be a good test for a pokemon trainer to go against, if said trainer has 5 badges and the gym leader has the skill of a one gym badge trainer.

[@maddeninggamer]

It would be an interesting idea having a sort of legacy set up post elite 4 and champion stuff with opening your own gym with the innumerable pokebucks that you have after power leveling everything and catching those two legendaries you run into every game.

[@theMarrasChannel]

Well in Pokemon Origin it says that the number of badgesof the trainer define which pokemon the Gym leader use.

[@belmontzar]

theMarrasChannel Thats what always made sense to me anyway.

[@theMarrasChannel]

Yeah me too

[@Mngalahad]

theMarrasChannel thats why brock pulled out the gravelers and omastars when gold approached him with eight gym badges and the championship. then, after having 16 and beaten red, he had rampardos, golem, relicanth...

[@ShadowLinkIcarius]

theMarrasChannel Exactly

[@ProtoMario]

The only problem is, an Official Licensed gym must be open to fill in the spot.

[@6969JG1]

Why did pokemon have no african american trainers until black and white

[@luketheforce373]

Yeah that is interesting ( future pokemon theory!)

[@Crick1952]

Gens I - IV all took place in Japan, there arn't many black people there. Whereas Gen V took place in New York, which has many more. All the maps are real places (Kanto, Jhoto, Hoen, and Sinoh are in Japan; Unova is New York; and Kalos is France)

[@6969JG1]

good point

[@6969JG1]

***** No, brock isi asian, did you ever see his eyes?

[@ssjup81]

***** In his case, I think it is. That's why for the anime they dropped him and replaced him with Kenji. They were afraid of him coming across as an Asian stereotype.

[@dodgerodgers6655]

From what I know, Gym leaders take over from their father / mother / brother / sister / mentor. You pass down the title of gym leader to someone you think is worthy. Also in pokémon origins it shows Gym Leaders having multiple pokémon, that they choose depending on the level of their opponent. Their goal is to make the fight fair, not pick level 100's and decimate all foes.

[@Usagizaka46]

The overall task of being a Gym Leader, which I think I read in PKMN D/P, was to teach young trainers about Pokémon and to test those who challenge the gym. Brock does this very well in Pokémon Origins. Some leaders clearly get tired of that over time. Like Volkner. Being. Gym Leader is both rewarding and tiring we can see.

[@jollyshitshow8111]

Maybe they pick their Pokemon depending on how many badges you have

[@decyst6294]

In pokemon origin, brock appears to have a higher level pokemon but as the 1st gym leader, he chooses a low level pokemon to battle with red

[@coderedpaintball1020]

I believe it is explained in Pokemon black2/white2 that gym leaders don't use their own pokemon. In origins, it shows Brock and Giovanni have pokemon to choose from. I believe the pokemon a leader uses depends on how many badges you have (say you have no badges, Brock uses level 12 geodude, 8 badges Brock has a level 45 Golem)

[@shannonrichnak5769]

Well if you watch the pokemon origins anime it shows that when red challenges Brock, brock asks red how many badges he has then Brock says " then I'll just use these two" or something like that. So it appears that it depends on how many badges the trainer has and that would determine of the leader would use their strongest pokemon.

[@spottedDeath983]

This is just more proof. When you beat the E4 in Platinum you can go to this one shack where you can once again fight gym leaders, but they have pokemon around the same lvl as the E4

[@Vvasssrieal]

As BW 2 said, and pokemon origins confirmed, a Gym Leaders asks you how many badges you have. From that they decide which Pokemon would be an accurate test of skill for someone of your skills

[@soupedkid13]

Watch Pokemon Origins and try again, it is explained.

[@johncio91]

This is something to take into consideration. In the pokemon anime with the 4th gen region. When Ash gets to the beacon badge the gym leader is considered the strongest in the region. And it sounded to me like he was steamrolling threw challengers till Ash beat him.

[@ProtoMario]

I have covered this.

[@1RamTough]

I think there's more than 8 gyms per region. It's probably just required to have 8 badges to face the e4 and champion . Also, I think there are more to the gym leaders. They probably have to beat the elite 4 and have to have at least 2-3 teams to use based on the challengers number of badges. That makes the most sense to me.

[@wesleypatterson3286]

requirement 1: you must have competed in AT LEAST YOUR region's Pokemon Gym challenge. you dont have to BEAT it, just TRY. requirement 2: you must have a current leader to "recommend" you, or to vouch that they believe ud make a good Leader. #3: you must prove you are good at battling by battling in front of the other 6 (not including the one your battling.) and #4: you must be a good teacher.

[@mr.sideline7163]

4:50 take that Gary

[@ProtoMario]

Because they did not have the item that required the evolution.

[@kieranleadbetter2391]

sorry protomario i just re watched your video and didnt realise that you already talked exactly about my previous comment

[@BlazeTheMovieFan]

Another informative video, thanks. =D

[@DDlarsson88]

I always assumed they had a selection to choose from depending on the experience of the trainer who challenged them. Perhaps not in the show though considering Brock and Misty, unless they are trolling Ash. Which admittedly would've been awesome..

[@aromaladyellie]

My question has always been "Do you have to challenge the gyms in order"? I mean say you're an NPC from the Unova Region (the one I know best since it's the only one I've played), and you live in Icirrus City, where you would get your SEVENTH Gym Badge, the Freeze Badge. We know from the preschooler trainers that a Pokemon trainer doesn't have to start with one of the three starters. This is also true in the anime, since Ash himself starts with Pikachu. So this means a person wishing to become a trainer doesn't HAVE to go see their regional professor to get started. So my question is, even though you're from Icirrus City, do you have to go all the way back to Striaton City to get the Trio Badge, or can you just challenge Brycen first? Do all of the Gym Leaders have Pokemon that suit the different levels? You can re-challenge the gyms in certain games (though not the Unova ones), and they're levelled up, even the first gym. So do the Gym Leaders all have ~50 different Pokemon at different levels for challenging trainers of different levels? Or would you have to somehow get your way to Striaton City, which is clear on the opposite side of the region from Iccirus, to challenge the gyms in the order the badges appear in a badge case/wallet? Or would you have to walk all the way back to the first town, Nuvema Town, to talk to Professor Juniper? I mean Iccirus City might not be the furthest town away from Striaton City in terms of actual, direct distance, but you'd have to pass through the most towns to get there (five if you take Route 7 first, seven if you take Route 8). You can't fly there unless your Pokemon knows Fly, because the planes in Mistralton City are for cargo use, not people, and Skyla doesn't have the time to fly you there with one of her Pokemon. So as an NPC or an anime character I guess, do you have to challenge the gyms in order? And speaking of anime gym leaders, who takes over while gym leaders are out and wandering the region with Ash? And another question, or rather, theory: the Starter Town is always so small because only people who are Chosen can live there. I mean there's usually no more than what, three houses?

[@nickdentoom1173]

Max promised to Ralts to start his journey with it and i think Bonnie is gonna start hers with Dedenne.

[@aromaladyellie]

Well, thank you for that information, but I never asked about starters, since I know already from the anime and from Pokemon Yellow AND from all the random NPCs you don't have to start with the three Starters. I asked about the Gyms and the order they're challenged in and if you had to go all the way back to the first town to talk to the Professor so you can get a Pokedex and a trainer's licence and stuff.

[@nickdentoom1173]

Ellie F. I don't think it matters which gym you battle first. At least, not in the anime. In the games, it is just how they set it up.

[@MBTepe]

I think you can simply challenge the gyms any order you want. There's a specific order for each region in the games because that's just how they set the games. But even in the games you can sometimes skip the gyms until the league so there's no order at all, because no gym leaders want you to have any other badges in order to challenge them. I believe gym leaders have many pokemon with different levels so they can have a balanced battle with trainers with different levels. Brock specifically stated this in the origins and I am almost positive that Claire said that the battle the battle supposed be tough because it's Ash's eighth Johto gym battle. What I believe is there are a gym for each types in every region but you challenge random eight in every game because there are many towns and cities that you don't visit (just look at the Hoenn map) Kanto and Johto share their league, that's why Johto has the missing gyms. That means there is a Fairy and Dark type gym somewhere in Kanto/Johto but we just did not visit that city so far. So, yes, you can challenge the gyms in any order you want. A gym leader is supposed to give you a proper challenge, so if you were a trainer from Icirrus city and challenge the Icirrus city as your first, Brycen would use lower leveled Pokémon. Because it would make no sense if you think that almost every NPC in the games has more powerful Pokémon than Brock or Faulkner etc. They choose weaker Pokémon because you are weak. Their job is not to crush your team but to teach you. That's why they have better teams in rematches, because you are a better trainer and they can use their best Pokémon. They all have powerful Pokémon. Just look at their teams in Pokémon World Tournament.

[@aromaladyellie]

M.B. Tepe Oh, I suppose that makes sense XD I'm only just now re-working my way through the anime (I actually *just* saw Clair's battle against Ash- she remarks that the battle is supposed to be tough, yes) and I don't think I saw much past Master Quest when I was little, since I don't really remember much about May and I don't remember Dawn at all. I've also only played White where they railroad you into challenging the gyms in the specific order presented and where the only people you can have a rematch with are the Elite Four. I'm still fairly new at actually playing Pokemon (never had a Gameboy or any gaming console until I was in high school, and I didn't actually play any Pokemon games until I think last year or so), so my actual knowledge is very limited to just White and what I've seen in the anime. Thank you very much for your help :)

[@jasonmacias2239]

do all trainers start off with the regions starters or do they just pick any pokemon ive wondered about this for a while

[@megano3394]

nice theory like always but it is said that if you go and create your pokemon gym and gather 100 victories with losing you can become an official gym leader

[@TheFreddynator42]

There was made a few Pokemon OVA's where they hop through the story of Pokemon Generation 1. When Red challanges Brock, Brock asks Red if this is his first Gym Leader encounter. After Red answered with yes, Brock choose specific Pokeballs (with onix and geodude) That could mean, that they have different Pokemon for the amount of GymBadges you collected. (In the games it is programmed and so on, but maybe it is thought to be like this :P) [sry for bad english, it isn't my native language ^^']

[@ProtoMario]

Some are and some are not. Brock and Misty definitely weren't, and Surge obviously took over since he is not originally from that region.

[@renkuzamakito1289]

Id like to hear a theory on what other type of gyms are in the kanto region? Like what extra gyms did gary visit for his other 2 badges

[@matsmax9272]

Do you have space to rom every pokémon shiny, , male and female in pokémon X and Y? If not chat wassmo the last generation?

[@callumbaurley716]

Interesting theory, I think for a Gym leader to be a gym leader firstly you have to prove you are actually a compitant and strong fighter, please note I am ignoring level of gym pokemon just because this could be prepared earlier and as seen in origins perhaps choice is made, Also you have to prove you have the knowledge and are willing to teach. those who want to fight but not teach can't be gym leaders,

[@ProtoMario]

Did one already

[@MortenLongbottom]

Manga (Pokemon Adventure First Generation) explanation it's better; a gym leader have to take care of the city where he/she belong. The better example: Erika, she was like a goddess for Celadon citizen. There was a rivalry between first eight, that was more interesting. ;)

[@shinyrattata4817]

Imagine if gym leaders, elite four members, and champions were to get paid for what they do, win or lose? Also, in regard to the two pokemon left aside, is that why when you rebattle gym leaders in compatible games, new pokemon are added in (may have been those they left out the first time)?

[@sebastianarora1969]

Even in the pokemon origins brock asks how many badges red has so he uses his weaker pokemon to battle red

[@A11L1V3ESL0ST]

yeah, this reinforces the idea that the gyms are actually doable in any order, and tends to be done with whichever one is closest or most accessible, which is backed by the fact that the first gym is gen 1 is actually empty forcing you to ignore it for the time and the fact that in the anime gary had ten badges even though only eight are needed. (though this is argued by your father in gen 3, though it could be that he really wanted to try and make you work for it, being his kid and all). and the idea that each gym has certain pokemon of certain levels per the number of gym badges you have was touched on in the video above, though not really fleashed out all that much in my opinion.

[@tristanneal9552]

I feel like there are Pokemon League talent seekers who go around searching for trainers with strong pokemon-trainer bonds and good strategies when a position is about to open up. :D

[@ProtoMario]

Dope! #Gymleader4life

[@OrangeOctangular]

I always used to think that Brock was some adult black guy who acted as the legal guardian of Ash and his friends when they adventured throughout... uh...Pokeworld?

[@tarikbegovic]

hey proto, if you could be a gym leader which type would it be based on? ProtoMario

[@chezmix64]

If you watch the anime all you gotta do according to that is be like "I'm battling you for the gym!" and if you win you're a gym leader. Also I think all the gym leaders ave multiple pokemon and choose which ones to use based on his much experience you have.

[@Jimmymusic14]

ProtoMario Ash was offered to become a gym leader at one point. I can't say I remember what was said but I do remember him beating one t=of the last gym leaders of a region.

[@IAmMissingnoMaster]

+Jimmymusic14 That was an offer to become a Frontier Brain. Battle Frontier could, for all we know, work very differently.

[@jensennguyen02]

Or gym leaders have different sets of pokemon depending on how many badges the trainer has So they can give them a fair and challenging fight

[@SMFluffyPrime]

Second stage starters (Wartortle, Quilladinc.), etc are catchable in the friend safari in X and Y depending on your friend's friend code. but u still have and excellent point

[@MorayNZ]

In origins the gym leaders seems to pick pokemon based on the skill level of the trainer vsing them, maybe that can explain the level difference

[@FallingPicturesProductions]

My theory: More then likely, Gym Leaders are chosen as trainers that specialized in one type of pokemon, for starters. Let's just say that I specialize in Electric Type. I own 23 assorted Pokemon in my PC and on hand, and of them, 19 are Electric. These trainers also have LARGE amounts of success, but not 'Champion Level' success is not needed, just makes you a better looking candidate. Let's say that across Kanto, I've earned all the badges and was able to beat 2 of the Elite 4 members. The current gym leader of this type sees the success this person has had, and realizes that with the skill set, they could be a truly good gym leader. They offer the trainer some sort of long-lasting apprenticeship. The trainer agrees, and while the current Gym Leader instructs them on ALL the little things for that particular type, he/she also works in an elemnt of humility and respect. Helps and teaches the apprentice the concept of choosing the lower, weaker pokemon to give the up-and-comers a chance, but also instructs them on how to use their skills to keep themselves relevant despite using lower-powered pokemon. Not necessarily all gym-leaders may follow this advice though, and they might still use powerful pokemon just for the sake of it. (cough Milltank cough). When the current Gym Leader either dies, gets appointed to Elite 4 status through whatever way, or retires/goes to a new occupation, the apprentice takes over the roll. Of course, this system could have some changes. Some gym leaders might have pre-selected a person or group of people, such as children, realtives, or family friends.

[@ProtoMario]

Scientists on Cinnabar Island resurrected them.

[@Sanguiluna]

My impression was always that the Gym Leader is the officially recognized strongest trainer of their city or town. As far as type is concerned, I don't think a Leader is bound to use a certain type, but rather the Leader determines the particular focus of their Gym; e.g. the Pewter Gym is a rock-centered Gym because Brock is a rock-type trainer, not vice versa. As far as becoming Leader, my assumption has been that to become a Leader, you have to beat the current Leader while being an official _member_ of that Gym. That's why none of the player characters ever become Leaders after beating them. But if, say, one of the various trainers serving under that Gym were to challenge and beat the Leader in an official match, he/she would be the new Leader and the former Leader would become a disciple trainer until he/she can win back the title.

[@ProtoMario]

Because while Air is needed for fire, too much can put out fire, I appreciate the premise, but have you ever tried to put out a serious fire with a wind tunnel. Not the best Idea =)

[@PrismaIris]

As a gym leader, you don't always have to be at the gym. In the games, I have observed many gym leaders not at their gyms and I have also seen Nuzlocke comics making fun of gym leaders away from their gyms.

[@Griffingterra]

random theory. in the original games there was only one eevee correct? what if bills eevee was the one eevee that brought the eevee population to be brought back up to a point where eevee can be now found in the wild. after all a long time has passed since then and it would make a lot of sense if red or blue (if blue got one as well) were responsible in helping the eevee population not become extinct.

[@austinspurlock4647]

Me:only if my theory was covered protomario:I choose you......bread

[@DandyAndy23]

When it comes to the Elite Four and Gym Leaders, I agree 100%

[@GreatHopwood]

Blue is a mixed type to avoid double typing. After fighting the the 8 Johto Gyms, the Elite Four and 7 of the Kanto Gyms, you have battled every type except Ground which should be Blue right? While it fits type wise, it would be strange for a former champion to drop his team, and use all Ground-Type. Plus there is a bonus to a Mixed-Type Gym. A Pokemon master should be able to best the expert of every type, as well as a trainer with diverse adaptive skill.

[@twinnfox7655]

Pokemon evolve in trades because the electric fields they are exposed to induces the evolution. This electric field is found in nature but that is rare, that is why in the anime those pokemon can be found in the wild (and in game in the case of Steelix). Slowpoke doesn't follow the same logic in game and in the anime, he does as he wants.

[@coolkid44447]

Hey Proto don't mean to be picky but if trainers are supposed to learn from the gym leaders how did Whitney become one? In game once u beat her she cries and u have to I back afterwards so u can get the Badge? So how does it fit with the theory now?

[@maddoctorwhoguy]

In both X,Y, Black and White there is a mention of a war and in the Kalos Region there were statues of Resharim and Zekrom. The owner of the castle with the statues has ancestors who fought in the war. Coincidence?

[@thasinussamadwasi6041]

hey proto how can meowth of team rocket can talk

[@nats1113]

He learned it himself to impress another meowth

[@avatardoom]

there was a whole episode explaining it. its called "go west young meowth" i think

[@Pyrotro]

Pokemon Theory: how are starters chosen to be starters? (Sorry for repost I didn't see if it posted or not last time.)

[@stramyneZZ]

brock's onix became a steelix during the battle frontier arc

[@BirdiePlaysYT]

but proto how do you become a member of the rocket/plasma/magna/aqua etc.

[@austinwhite6195]

In the Pokemon manga Red had to do stuff to become gym leader of Viridian gym (which he declined and handed over to Blue in the end.)

[@TinchoXII]

I can already foresee Ash (Satoshi) becoming a Gym leader the day at the LAST episode of the whole Pokemon series.