The Definitive Gen 1 Nuzlocke Tier List

I somehow forgot Rhydon and Kanga Rhydon is C for not doing anything by the time you get it Kanga is A for her strong Agatha matchup Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's video! Get The Chairman™ Pro Package for 20% OFF + Free International Shipping this holiday season with promo code "PCHAL" at manscaped.com/pchal

[@BombsOfSoy]

do sinnoh next

[@tonyg9775]

​@@BombsOfSoyHe's doing HG/SS

[@heinshaaine8153]

Its about speed its about power it is starfish it devour

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

@@tonyg9775 oh FUCK yes I left a comment around the same time as yours asking for a gen 2 revamped list

[@henriquepacheco7473]

​@@tonyg9775 And then he's doing omega ruby/alpha sapphire, and then bright diamond/shining pearl. Imagine if he actually did that, though.

[@Funkmania.]

Oh my god its not even the end of the month

[@azaimadil6670]

Lets play a guessing game. I bet he gambled money for cs cases

[@henriquepacheco7473]

It's a Christmas miracle!

[@landmo6481]

Came here to leave this comment. Wasn't disappointed

[@JustaBasedLad]

Bros rent was late

[@ndro_gyny]

@@azaimadil6670 maybe just maybe he actually starts enjoying it again.

[@obviouslyPSM]

gota love those sponsorship dealine----wait....it isnt the end of the month?

[@Ericbomb]

Plot twist: His reputation is well known, so now the deadlines are halfway through a month.

[@MattEnters]

It's December, the highest ad revenue month of the year. Makes sense to get it out to make the most of that

[@obviouslyPSM]

@ facts. There’s so many videos my watch later list is blowing up

[@randomt800kiddo2]

@@Ericbomblowkey might be onto something

[@OtterFed]

When are you releasing a Nuzlocke with the lowest tier/tiers of this tierlist?

[@liampouncy7808]

This video is really bloody good. I think in this final cut you've somewhat underplayed the lengths you went to with this - the amount of effort and testing that you can see when watching the streams/ daily channel is nuts. You *could* have just phoned this in or even just been fine with your old video, but you didn't; it really can be called a *Definitive* list. A great resource for people new to Nuzlocking. Big respect for this. I'm glad you also seem to be having fun with the project, too. Can't wait to watch the rest of the series. =]

[@v4n1tyy]

hop off when ur done riding

[@owendawg1]

Is that true? From what I was seeing of the pChal daily uploads, he wasn't really testing all of the mons in all relevant spots, and some of them seemed pretty vibe-based. Is there just like a ton of testing he did that never reached that channel?

[@Fabiocean2000]

@@owendawg1 As he said, everything apart from E4 is pretty trivial, so he didn't test that part as throughly. Half of his streams was just E4 testing though, so the most important part should also be the most accurate.

[@unboundsoul3582]

​@@owendawg1 it's a bit more evident in the actual streams but for each major fight, particularly gym leaders and E4, he is genuinely giving pokemon their best shot to perform and taking the results in with a broad context in mind.

[@sanstheblaster2626]

@@Fabiocean2000 he was using the wrong level cap for half of his e4 testing. And was also playing with so much speed-up that more than a couple times he mistook crits for normal damage rolls. This was a much more casual thing than some of you make it out to be, and this video clearly has less effort put into it than any main video he ever put out. It's still a good resource, but it's by no means definitive, you could do much better than this. This series is very obviously intended as a gap filler for me.

[@AzarathMetreon]

2:10 “Because who the hell plays actual gen 1?” Somewhere out there, JRose is badge boosting his way through another solo mon gen 1 run. 😂

[@skeetermania3202]

And Scott’s Thoughts is right behind going over damage rounding thresholds.

[@yeepsleep]

Idk who else agrees with me but in my opinion Kanto isn't as fun without all the jank, I personally prefer gen 1 to the remakes. RSE are great though

[@Xylus.]

I had essentially this same thought😂

[@Eroil]

​@@yeepsleep I like both for different reasons, both have their fun bonuses. Overall like FRLG more but RBY has its charm for sure

[@TeeQueueSA]

MahDryBread rises from their grave to beat pokemon red with only one diglett.

[@alessandroboscaini8424]

Jan: “guess we have to test Mr. Mime as well…” Jan 1 minute later: “oh this gets Magical Leaf??!?” Jan 5 minutes later: “holy fuck this pokemon is broken!!!” 😂 Love to see someone so experienced get so surprised and excited about all the little discoveries you make along the way!

[@istokipsy6289]

MIMIEN also has set IVs due to being a trade exclusive - and while not all 31s, they're completely serviceable.

[@shade08538]

It also gets screens and encore Its also good for a grand total of 6 bosses, sweeping Erika, Koga, Bruno, Agatha, having Tbolt for Lance and can Secret Power some mons on Sabrina, it can also bolt Champ Gyara Its also a GUARANTEED encounter

[@JzanderN]

@@istokipsy6289 When IVs are always a roll, having all your important stats be guaranteed to be in the early 20s is pretty damn good.

[@grunkleg.2934]

Mr. Mime is basically a counter to every physical attacker and then some. When you look at all the physical attacking types in this game, Poison and Fighting fall to Psychic, Rocks and Grounds are covered by Magical Leaf (the low power of the move doesn't even hurt that much considering the low SpDef and all the 4x weaknesses), Flying types are covered by Thunderbolt, the three Ghosts are part Poison, Normals and Bugs are severely lacking in presence and/or get paired with types already covered by Psy+Bolt, and Steel types are rocking a participation trophy. So basically half of the game's roster gets dunked on by three moves, a feat I don't even think Starmie can claim. Then in slot 4 you can run whatever silly little move you want: Reflect/Light Screen support, Encore to incapacitate your foe, Substitute for anyone getting too cheeky with status, Shadow Ball to dumpster the most commonly spammed enemy Psychic-type, Calm Mind to let it sweep, you can drop a coverage move for an extra support move, etc. Kanto is simple to a goddamn fault, its variety is severely lacking, and Mr. Mime just breaks the whole game open because of it

[@darkkuroi551]

The Juliensblog diss is just crazy funny, actualy made me spit my water out in laughter

[@HoTLikePika]

Was thinking the same. Does anyone know him outside germany?

[@lionrrl1040]

Same

[@shyguy_003]

Caught me so off-guard

[@joshualotz8908]

@@HoTLikePika hoffentlich nicht...

[@EmberTheShark]

​@@joshualotz8908da soll lieber der Kunstschulenversager mit dem lustigen schnorres als stereotypen Repräsentation herhalten als der mongo

[@wifibattler7890]

2:35 F-tier 3:37 C-tier 5:54 B-tier 14:08 A-tier 23:47 S-tier

[@elvenatheart982]

I just gotta say I was the 69th like on this comment. Gentlemen, we party tonigh🎉

[@Ender41948]

Hearing that the Elite 4 is a massive difficulty spike, and I shouldn't feel ashamed for having wiped to it on my very first nuzlocke is just the kick in the pants I didn't think this video would give me. Time to get back on that horse.

[@beforegrim]

same i wiped to it on my first ever nuzlocke and i got embarrassed and never tried again

[@imalyve]

SAME

[@supersaiyanyamcha2665]

Eat that horse

[@TheTrooperMB]

everyone knows the elite 4 in kanto Yellow and LG/FR are no joke!

[@masterturbo2218]

Just watching the introduction makes me excited for the rest. Didnt think much of the idea of doing runs to update the tier lists since i prefer watching rom hacks, but it kinda grew on me

[@skillnvm]

19:50 “Raucherhusten” 😂😂 the small German bits always kill me

[@OutdoorClassroom21]

I'm here for the Raucherhusten 🤘🏻

[@Sir_Spheal]

Pchal: Charizard isn't goo- Every genwunner: So you have chosen death

[@SaltM313]

I haven't seen any actual genwunner since 2017, honestly

[@josepagan5699]

@SaltM313 then you have certainly been blessed

[@Bird_in_a_Trenchcoat]

@SaltM313 honestly same. It feels like that stereotype has kind of shifted into “the 2D games were better” one instead

[@rasengdori13]

@@Bird_in_a_Trenchcoat I mean…they were…like…objectively.

[@GolemRising]

I am a genwunner. Charizard was mid in gen 1 and garbage in the update. Only value was a fire type that got to abuse slash always critting, and it lost that as soon as they fixed the bug. Venusaur reigns supreme.

[@lucasn.m.755]

“Mr mime outspeeds agathas second gengar” (*b-roll immediately shows it not outspeeding*)

[@garrettgautreau5908]

Yeah he went into his final testing phase with the wrong level cap and was too lazy to re-do the fights at level 60 instead of 55. Was kind of annoying honestly because there were a lot of close ranges some mons missed that made them possibly helpful on multiple fights.

[@Wolfarick]

@@garrettgautreau5908 He actually did end up going back with a few of the mons though, namely one was Mr.Mime. When he went back through at level 60, Mr.Mime outsped. Theres footage of it on pChal Daily. The editor just didn’t use it here

[@crazygreek6341]

3:24 that Julien jumpscare - I died from laughter man, that catched me completely off guard

[@MaxiMillion126]

Was about to comment this wtf - yesterday he mentioned Joe Vogel in daily content is ma boi ACTUALLY A GERMAN MEME LORD

[@someguy764]

You know, it never clicked until this video just how screwed over fire types are in Kanto. Their biggest selling point in later gens is beating the ever troublesome steel types, while also having a deceptively good amount of resistances, making them reliably hit hard and even take hits well. However, in Kanto, the only two ice types that aren't also water type are Jynx and Articuno, while only the magnemite line are steel types, which die anyway to any ground attack. This means the only meaningful positive attacking matchups are grass and bug... which flying already takes care of. Defensively, fairies don't exist, pretty much every ice type also has a water move, I don't think there even are enemy steel moves, enemy fire types are rare until late game, where you are guaranteed to have a water type and thus leaves grass and bug... which flying also takes care of. What you are left with is a type that does quite literally the exact same thing flying does most of the time, except it is weak to three of the most common enemy pokemon types, ground, water and rock. By contrast, flying is only also weak to rock, water is neutral, and are immune to ground. Somehow, depite fire types having on paper more resistances than flying types, their defensive profile on Kanto is worse. And even in terms of availability and movepools, they get screwed over. Most are stuck with ember until the 30s-40s, every non-charizard encounter is available only until Celadon, the flamethrower TM is in the game corner, and many don't even get decent coverage besides Charizard, who isn't helped much by that. Flying types in contrast, are very available through the game, have wing attack through the midgame as a decent mid-power stab move, all get the ever useful Fly just in time for Erika's gym, two get the coveted Drill Peck, and even your legendary capture can use flying moves effectively. I know grass types get clowned on for Johto, but damn, fire types in Kanto don't have it much better. EDIT: On an unrelated side note, my child self has been vindicated, I beat the E4 in Emerald no problem, but in Leaf Green they beat my ass so many times I had to do the good ol' "get so pissed off you reset the entire game and then get a run where you do it right".

[@bubblesofthecoast6393]

Wait a minute this isn’t the end of the month. Must be a Christmas miracle after all

[@bubby7474]

Saying, “I don’t know, it helps with Misty I guess?” as the Wartortle on screen gets KOed by Misty’s Starmie is hilarious. This tierlist had some shocking placements, but your reasoning made sense!

[@holty1314]

I always thought the Kanto games were designed with Easy Medium and Hard difficulties with the starter’s you pick. Which affects how easily you are able to overcome gyms rival and elite 4

[@betelgeux6010]

whats the medium? blastoise and venusaur will both grant you a very smooth and easy game

[@sirkittens5445]

​@@betelgeux6010Squirtle clears the first gym on its own, but Bulbasaur clears the first two

[@betelgeux6010]

@@sirkittens5445 in my experience squirtle clears misty as easily, since the watermons cant do anything to him while he spams tailwhip+bite

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

@@betelgeux6010 right but like pchal said in the video bulbasaur also does way better against surge than squirtle, which is due to grass resisting electric while water is weak to it. that’s a relative 4x discrepancy. I like squirtle just as much as you man, but bulbasaur is undoubtedly the easier choice, making squirtle medium mode

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

@@betelgeux6010 also then squirtle is weak to the fourth gym (grass) while you can easily get tons of water types by the 7th gym (fire) so squirtle doesn’t even really get that

[@TimAquila]

3:21 ich hab nicht einen JuliensBoss Front erwartet, aber er ist göttlich. Und der Skillvergleich ist akkurat wie Aero-Ass

[@JohnTronMusic]

Finde es ein wenig deplatziert. Ich weiss zwar nicht wie viele Deutsche Zuschauer hat, noch dazu wie wenig Juliens Laufbahn kennen aber glaub 90% checken das gar nicht 😂

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

Aero-Ass is unreal

[@isaacmillen8789]

Someone pls comment something funny I don't wanna have to go through the "IT'S THAT TIME OF THE MONTH 🔥🔥🔥" jokes.

[@crazedbutcher6672]

Mate, it's German humor around here. It's no laughing matter

[@jvever4904]

Ooh this tierlist is a definite improvement over the last ones you did years back!! Loving the quality :D

[@af02271]

Actually great content from Jan that he seemed to actually enjoy making!

[@SnackMuay]

He said it was surprised how fun it was. Especially finding the hidden gems like Mr. Mime.

[@osglui32004]

6:07 I can’t be the only one who expected a reference to the alpharad clip when he mentioned Onix right?

[@Sandvichman.]

i'm glad you didn't waste our time about getting into the thumbnail i don't know if it was exactly necessary because giving your viewer something to look forward to is a fine strategy (if the rest of the video is relevant) but it did quickly address the strong thumbnail that drew me in, and i appreciate that

[@bradleystevens4618]

Really appreciate you revisiting these tierlists as scripted videos. While it was great hearing your unfiltered thoughts on each poke in the old vids... yeah the actual tierlists became really incomprehensible real fast lol and having it so organized and concise like this now is great. Hope to see more of these for the other games!!

[@cbored3778]

Shout out to the editor for turning that basement they're trapped in into a real home lmao. Also Mimien the goat with his huge brain and stash of magical leaves

[@JitteryJackanape]

As someone who just recently did in game trades only i was happy you gave Mr. Mime his due. Mr. Mime felt like a hack for me. Everything more or less felt free the entire rest of the game. Magical Leaf, Psychic, Encore and Light Screen. I cheesed the entire game from Rock Tunnel onwards.

[@LordLucario12]

Pchal uploading before the end of the month AND right after I finished watching all the Pchal Daily stuff for this video specifically? The stars truly have aligned on this glorious day

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

PChal "gen 1 tierlist" Me: "Oh cool, I'd like to see how he'd rank all the crazy glitchmons PChal: "FRLG" ...Jokes aside, was an interesting list.

[@BYtheHORNsGaming]

For people who are newer to nuzlocking (like myself, I've only ever completed one hardcore nuzlocke, and it was fire red) watching this video the A tier is your best friend for whatever ruleset you find comfortable and I highly suggest warping your teams around these pokemon. Don't get me wrong I trust Pchal's opinions wholeheartedly on the actual rankings for the battles so if you can make the mime work or are playing leaf green of course go with the S tiers. But something not covered here as in depth are things like encounter mapping and the ease of use the Pokémon provides, which are both areas the A tier absolutely excel at. With most pokemon being either guarenteed gift pokemon (Hitmonlee, Lapras, the abra line, the dratini line, either eeveelution, omastar) which you can cater to what your team needs at the time (or have all of them if you play with gift clause), the traded jinx or static encounter snorlax (which gives you some flexibility on which route you want to dedicate your snorlax too if you play with encounter clause) or other wise have very few locations they can be acquired with relative ease or even practically guaranteed if you play with encounter clause. On top of all of that as a resident pleb of pokemon I can attest to the fact that it is very easy to utilize these pokemon in a less than expert way (i.e. use super effective move after ev training a bit) and still make progress as long as you remember gen 3 mechanics. Of course the more work and calc's you put in the bigger the reward especially with these A tier pokemon, but as long as you are a bit more careful then a normal playthrough you can consistently get pretty far into a run and will be able to shore up your weaknesses very quickly.

[@rextek5421]

This video really showcased how much better you habe become at being a scriptwriter and youtuber. The old tier list videos were so poorly made but this video was perfectly executed due to the fact that the pacing was fast enough to not be boring while giving enough info about each mon and why they were placed there while showing gameplay about the each mon in the specific scenario you were talking about. Hut ab an dich und dein team

[@sscout191]

For those who are like me and need a visual list, here you got (watch the video for his reasoning): S-Tier: Mr. Mime, Starmie, Exeggutor, Zapdos A-Tier: Venusaur, Alakazam, Gengar, Scyther, Jynx, Dodrio, Raichu, Electabuzz, Jolteon, Electrode, Magneton, Dewgong, Blastoise, Lapras, Vaporeon, Omastar, Tentacruel, Haunter, Kadabra, Poliwrath, Venomoth, Slowbro, Clefable, Pidgeot, Dragonite, Hitmonlee, Arcanine, Hypno, Snorlax, Kangaskhan, Articuno B-Tier: Beedrill, Nidoquee, Nidoking, Pinsir, Rapidash, Persian, Rhydon, Flareon, Raticate, Tauros, Golem, Machamp, Dugtrio, Ninetails, Fearow, Parasect, Tangela, Primape, Kingler, Farfetch’d, Golbat, Graveler, Gyrados, Butterfree, Sandslash, Vileplume, Chansey, Hitmonchan, Wigglytuff, Muk, Weezing, Victreebel, Cloyster, Arbok, Onix C-Tier: Moltres, Marowak, Kabutops, Aerodactyl, Magmar, Machoke, Seaking, Golduck, Seadra F-Tier: Charizard, Lickitung, Ditto, Porygon

[@BibityBobityBen]

Gen 1? I thought it was a mistake in the title, but Jan refers to FRLG as such throughout the whole video.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

Gen 1 Pokémon gen 3 mechanics I wish he would do one for RBY

[@daultonbrenize6624]

I’ll do the Gen 1 RBY tier list.. use the fastest Pokémon possible and ones that get slash are great too. Crits are broken and it’s too easy with that mechanic. Hence why nobody nuzlockes gen1 … it’s too easy and mechanics are bad

[@petro5747]

@@daultonbrenize6624also you can cheese lance with a poison type as Dragonite will spam agility, game’s a mess

[@someguy764]

It is absurdly easy. Yellow is an improvement, but it is hilariously easy to take advantage of gen 1 stupidity with something as usually insignificant like Victreebel or Persian and sweep the entire game. And if psychic types are a staple of FR/LG teams, they are basically a cheat code in RBY.

[@silvestr4162]

Men, just keep going, with this production it deserves all other gens

[@Stjimmydude88]

I’ve used Mr. Mime every time as a kid. The Goat of FR/LG

[@liamaldrich2476]

I still find the nickname CH'DING absolutely hilarious. Glad to see Farfetch'd make it up to a surprisingly high tier

[@yeta.]

Glad to see Hypno getting its praise, its such a slept on mon

[@theblackquill5921]

I would argue it deserves to be slept on since it literally is the one putting us to sleep

[@owenaspinall2046]

His praise here ignores the best part about Hypno: it's the best Alakazam counter in the game with a psychic resist, high spdef, and shadow ball.

[@Hollow.Midnight]

People not realizing that the Manscaped deadline is tighter this month because of Christmas

[@perkypenguin1663]

While this tier list is very good and I certainly recognize the effort you put into actually testing the Pokemon on the tier list, I wouldn’t say it’s quite definitive yet. I think it’s quite lacking in certain setup options, like Bulk Up and especially Calm Mind. While Bulk Up might be more difficult to find an opportunity to establish, Calm Mind can definitely be established, especially in combination with Substitute. There’s also the fact that much of the E4 testing was done at level 55 rather than 60, that of Lance’s ace, which absolutely made a difference in certain tests. Speed matchups were likely influenced by this and damage output definitely was. Very good video for sure, though.

[@Valnoir_]

Awesome, I’ve always loved pchal but I’ve never really felt connected to the super crazy modded romhacks games. I like to play nuzlockes more casually and this is exactly the content I am looking for.

[@LuisRodriguez-hw2kl]

“If you clicked on the video and immediately skipped to this point…” I feel called out lol Ok dad, I will watch the full video

[@eoinderby]

Hey, I don’t normally comment but I just wanted to say thank you so much for actually testing and trying Pidgeot and showing it has a niche. As a G1 and Pidgey line fan its hard as everybody automatically looks at Fearow’s higher attack stats and just assumes its better, despite the fact it drags so many players through the early game. Pidgeot is and always will be my favourite Pokemon and I love the fact it evolves at 36 alongside my starter- I conquered Kanto with it in 1998 and still going strong. Thanks Pchal for another great video- especially as not at the end of the month!

[@shade08538]

Something of note: For most of the testing he mistakenly thought the Level Cap was 55 instead of 60. This doesn't change that much aside from helping Mr Mime hit the power and speed range, helping Kadabra hit the power range on Bruno, and it means Zard CAN oneshot Jynx Does this alter Zard's ranking? Most likely no, not at all.

[@KharlanTree642]

19:05 That production value *chefs kiss*

[@Boingo445]

This video fully validated my childhood. Leafgreen was my first pokemon game, i refused to pick any starter other than Bulbasaur (still do btw, i love my frog), and Zapdos was always my favorite of the birds.

[@Lucois010]

Spoiler: Lets go starmie number one!!! My favorite Pokémon!!!

[@Ja.floppa]

Patrick Strats

[@sorceresssophia2949]

It’s kinda fun to see where your go-to team fits on here. I’ll start! 1 S (Starmie), 3 As (Venasaur, Clefable, and Lapris) and 2 Bs (Ninetales and Nidoqueen)

[@joshuasilva8168]

Secretly the E4 difficulty spike isnt actually that huge, Jan just did 98% of his E4 testing underleveled lmao

[@CosmicDoom47]

This is one of the best videos you've made since Emerald Kaizo IMO. Very excited for more!

[@nunyabiness181]

This upload made me panic and double check my calendar, I thought maybe I’d missed Christmas!

[@j.i.aproduction854]

Didnt expect gyarados and farfetchd in the same tier And Mr. Mime on S tier

[@cryarionic8321]

nice yugioh sacred cards ost there, my man

[@georgelongcoal1117]

Unironically goated video. My personal tidbit (dunno how well it goes for hardcore nuzlockes tho): I am not sure where I read it, but if you take charmander, mankey is not the only option. I am pretty sure if you get butterfree, you can up its defense against its geodude(has no rock type moves) and then with confusion 2hko the onyx. As long as he doesn't crit a rock tomb, you will be fine.

[@_hyva_]

Nice pfp my guy

[@Krazy-8fangurl]

Dude your sponsor areas are so crazy smart. As a business student I can’t help but blush

[@Rilu64]

oh thank god you're updating those. I even commented on the last Tier List, that the quality of your videos improved so much, I would LOVE to see it on older Tier Lists. And even now with your better knowledge of this game, I can't wait for the other versions to be updated as well :D

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

9:29 okay I was trying to make gyarados work in my sapphire nuzlocke and I found the exact same thing. Everyone hypes it up but in gens 1-3 I’m not positive that’s true Intimidate obviously helps but it just doesn’t do much until waterfall and crunch are physical

[@troykv96]

In Gen 1 at least he has the 100 Special, so his water moves can actually do damage, but in Gen 2 and Gen 3 Gyarados is lacking, in Gen 3 his saving grace is intimidate, but he really wants Gen 4's physical/special split.

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

@@troykv96 this is unrelated but you ever notice how the pronouns for species that can be either gender often wind up being male for powerful attackers and female for defensive supporters

[@Dragonoid269]

Gyarados is pretty decent really. Just look at how useful Gyarados can be in emerald kaizo. Though it's mostly good for being a bulky intimidate mon with a pretty good typing. In vanilla gen1-3 games it gets outclassed by other waters fairly easily as you'll always like a powerful ice beam user for the E4 and Gyarados is a somewhat bad choice for this. If you allow ev training practically every water type will do fine though, even Golduck can OHKO four of Drake's mons (you just switch it out on the Kingdra, use something else to take out Kingdra, and then switch golduck back in on flygon as you easily tank one attack)

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

@@Dragonoid269 don’t forget that it’s also one of the best pivots in the nuzlocke history

[@afsdfsadhasfh]

That feels like a big exaggeration. Even pre-physical/special split Gyarados has a ton of advantages to compensate for not having good STAB. Offensively it's pretty good still. It has 125 base Attack, the 6th highest in the game, and it learns Dragon Dance. Give it Earthquake and Return and it beats a lot of things, and is nearly always useful. It's not the offensive monster it is in later gens, but it's a good attacker still. But defensively is where it's really underrated. Gen 4+ Gyarados just one shots everything and makes defense irrelevant, so people associate it with that and forget how useful it is defensively. It has good bulk, Intimidate, and a defensive typing with 1 immunity, 5 resistances and only 2 weaknesses, both of which set up Ground types perfectly. It's one of the best all around pokemon. Good attack, good defense, amazing pivot.

[@freshIight]

@pChal 19:50 Erwäge bitte mit dem Rauchen aufzuhören 🙏 Ich hab's nach langer Zeit trotz Partyumfeld geschafft. Bleib' gesund

[@benkopczynski2190]

PChal december video? Shit, I haven't done my Christmas shopping, I've missed everything!

[@Pwaitelol]

Amazing editing, can't wait for the tier lists for other games

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

I love the revamp!! Just started a soulsilver nuzlocke so I’d love a gen 2 tier list revamp :-)

[@CommanderWolf888]

Honestly, this makes a lot of sense. When I hardcore nuzlocked Firered, I thought I had a baller E4 team (and tbh half of it was damn good): Charizard, Snorlax, Gengar, Magneton, Lapras, and Kingdra (I used randomizer program to turn trade evos into level-up and that made Kingdra available). I thought I was cruising through, but then Lance bodied my Charizard, Snorlax, and Magneton. I barely, and I mean JUST barely carve out a win at the champ fight with my final three, using every dishonourable strat I had (basically perish song, toxic, and smokescreen). Seeing where some of my picks ended up on this list and the explanations for their placements, I better understand why I almost lost.

[@galaxystudios370]

you take that win

[@splinter360]

I like that you're upping your game with production man. Anyone worth doing is worth doing to your best.

[@PrinceJayReal]

Love that you're revamping your tiering, great video brudda

[@TheHermano5]

Thanks for re-doing this tier list with actual editing and script, the older one had to many changes after gen 3

[@NoSXFaS]

I love the effort of you put in this video even if you already made a tier list

[@calebh20]

Man, it's nice to see one of these actually follow a bell curve. I'd be curious to see The updated comparisons vs the original to see what changed

[@caw-caw-robinjay]

it’s nice to see a more modern take on your tier list for the gen 1 crew!! would love to see you take a peek at how they do in RBY, one day, stuff like high crit rates and no-recharge hyper beams make it a really fun game to steamroll through

[@makiah_s]

It’s the fact that you picked MegaMan battle network music that I’m so happy to be subscribed Amazing video is always, and the vibes are still pretty immaculate

[@narutaku8972]

id love this kinda remake video for ur older videos aswell, great video

[@brennanartrip3106]

Awesome list; can’t believe you don’t spend time reading comments. Loved watching it edited on PChal daily. Train something other than bouldering for a bit if you hit a plateau. Come back in a month with some different strength

[@simontanguay3619]

Love this video, that's the kind of content I subscribed for, along with the crazy challenges!

[@grunkleg.2934]

You know now that I think about it, a common complaint you'll hear about the newgen Pokemon games is that they're too easy. When you consider that Charizard is easy the most popular Kanto starter, and that it's the game's hard mode, and that little kids playing their first game didn't know the type chart, there may be a connection there

[@XenithShadow]

In original red it was certainly hard mode as there was no mankey or nidoran encounter to get access to a fighting move. In the remake, it was less hard mode since charmander would have had metal claw. The new games are also easy cause trainers dont have full teams, they dont have proper move sets and most relavenetly the affection mechanic that auto remove status and prevent fainting. Without the affection mechanics the gen 4 remakes probably have the hardest elite 4 to nuzlocke in a non modded game. Due to having perfect iv's proper movesets and being ev trained.

[@lofile6188]

A small bonus that Mr. Mime has is that it's the best "Electric" type before you a Magneton/Zapdos since it's the best user of Surge's Shock Wave TM and the infinite Thunderbolt TMs from the Game Corner.

[@Mustache99]

graveler can be good as a pivot it attract water and grass move

[@twisted_cry]

Dude the Julien diss catched me!

[@Billy_your_Friend]

Omg the Juliens Blog refferance xD

[@jeddkelly1503]

Honestly the lengths you have went through for this is really incredible. Although just to play devil's advocate, if you give Butterfree the Psychic TM it can sweep Bruno half consistently with some sleep luck. Maybe not A-tier worthy but its not completely helpless in the E4 either.

[@chriscross9756]

Tbh, he knows we're upset. I do appreciate how there was no intro and he just went into the content. You have pleased me this time, Jan.

[@altaccount----4]

PCHAL IS BACK BABBY

[@iasonasppd]

I love that your sposnor sells shaving machines, yet you appear unshaved in every sponsor segment! This is so hilarious🤣

[@dominicmurphy8986]

Great video and enjoyed seeing the Pokémon broken ranked based on the game they're part of compared to the old list. Also, I get to feel validated on my opinions about Mr. Mime being great in FR/LG. I think some people really underrate it as just "worse" Kadabra/Alakazam without looking at all of it's unique upsides.

[@dragonstorm2074]

I loved watching the PChal daily vids leading up to this. Good video

[@99potato99]

Great vid and I enjoyed the streams as well. Incredible ad read well done.

[@atsnacks9122]

Was enjoyable to watch the series daily. Can’t wait for the rest

[@WearDreamer73]

I like how Jan put a lot of effort into this, doing multiple streams and runs for hours to get this nailed down, yet some comments are just about him not uploading at the end of the month. We get it, by now.

[@dm9910]

The funny thing is that if he posts at the end of the month, every comment is "blah blah sponsor deadline" and if he doesn't, every comment is "omg it's not even the end of the month". So I guess there is no time of the month that wouldn't be somehow notable enough spam comments about it.

[@zorimanar2247]

Very good video here. Honestly makes me excited for more, and a joy to watch. S-Tier

[@BoardgameLogan]

Great content man- miss watching your stuff

[@xoroy8694]

I actually do really like these tier lists and the effort put into them. Can’t wait til you get to like gen 4/5

[@YungHaimovitz]

Buried Relic music from PMD1 is perfect for the final segment, thank you editor

[@lucyarisato6850]

The best start to my morning. Can’t wait to watch this on my lunch break. Thanks Jan!!!

[@b51waterclub51]

HES BACK! Good video, no sponsorship deadline, hell yeah

[@Revanaught]

One of the main things I learned is that the best choice of starter is Charmander. Keep in spirit with what a nuzlock should do, make the incredibly easy pokemon games hard, it only makes sense to pick the hard mode of the game by picking Charmander.

[@Tamorak]

If you're adjusting rankings specifically because of the E4 for higher viabilities, why not retest the E4 and champion? Most notably, you played with the wrong level cap for a lot of mons. Lance's ace is 60, you went in with 55 for the majority of them. Vileplume is a mon that drastically changes, Lapras being used as an example of something you specifically have to counter for - Giving 20SpA IV's just to reflect badgeboost. Lvl 55 0 SpA 20 IVs Vileplume Solar Beam vs. Lvl 54 0 HP 0 IVs / 0 SpD 0 IVs Lapras: 175-206 (85.7 - 100.9%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO Lvl 60 0 SpA 20 IVs Vileplume Solar Beam vs. Lvl 54 0 HP 0 IVs / 0 SpD 0 IVs Lapras: 205-242 (100.4 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO With 0 IV's (because again, I'm just adding in badgeboost there), that changes a roll that's unfavorable to a guaranteed OHKO. Adding one level because you can assume a single levelup between the first few to compare against the Blastoise (something mentioned that Vileplume is not the move against) Lvl 56 0 SpA 20 IVs Vileplume Giga Drain vs. Lvl 63 0 HP 0 IVs / 0 SpD 0 IVs Blastoise: 71-84 (41.2 - 48.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO Lvl 61 0 SpA 20 IVs Vileplume Giga Drain vs. Lvl 63 0 HP 0 IVs / 0 SpD 0 IVs Blastoise: 83-98 (48.2 - 56.9%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO With I believe it's around 5-10 IV's, Vileplume can reliably 2 hit and get all of it's HP back from Giga into Blastoise, where at 5 levels lower Vileplume loses. Grant it, I'm not against the methodology of playing with 0 EV's, because testing like that does have it's merrits. However I'm pretty sure a lot will move from C to B and B to A just with adding 5 more levels onto mons. I also think it makes Hitmonlee way worse, because 5 more levels on Lapras because of how much better it gets. Level 60 Lapras has 84 speed, compared to level 55 having 78 speed. Lvl 55 0 SpA 20 IVs Lapras Ice Beam vs. Lvl 54 0 HP / 0 SpD Dragonair: 134-158 (91.7 - 108.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO Lvl 60 0 SpA 20 IVs Lapras Ice Beam vs. Lvl 54 0 HP / 0 SpD Dragonair: 158-186 (108.2 - 127.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO That level difference means you're never getting thunder waved and risking on Dragonite.

[@Pigggles]

Man really wrote a lot for a comment no one is gonna read

[@majesticmoose643]

Welcome back Jan, we missed you here on KZbin. ❤

[@elvryn_]

It's funny how a Monotype of Bug sweeps in Kanto Gen III One day it would be nice a tier list of these old mons based on the last Gen stats, abilities and moves for Nuzlocke in general, any game. How good they're overall?

[@thehayze259]

I thought I was going crazy not using Gyarados in a Firered nuzlocke I was doing, thank you for validating my choice

[@oliver1784]

rly looking forward for the gen 5 tier list :0 good content

[@MrPieEducation]

"Also the production quality..." *Cuts to much clearer audio*

[@shade08538]

😂😂

[@johnnymcinerney3317]

A return to form - keep this type of video coming!

[@bensupermario]

I love the writing for this video. It feels very natural.