The ATV market is shrinking because manufacturers would rather sell a 40k SXS than a 10k ATV and dealers would rather finance 40k at 18% for 8yrs than to sell a machine cash OTD.. Then those SXSs destroy everything that make ATVs enjoyable.. GRRRRR!!! Sorry to be THAT guy.. CAN I PET THAT DAAWWWWG!
@1993kramer2 жыл бұрын
Truth isn't always easy
@observantservant21352 жыл бұрын
Truth 💢💯
@jakemccann27902 жыл бұрын
I agree with dirt obsession
@RARufus2 жыл бұрын
I’d much rather ride a wheeler than a side by side for the fun factor. Wheelers can tear up trails too if people are being ramrods, but I see WAYYY more ramrods driving side by sides. I also see regular folks driving side by sides and just having fun but ramrods driving side by sides do ruin a lot of terrain and cause problems for other riders. Also, I would like to play fetch with that dawg!
@Captndarty2 жыл бұрын
Four wheelers are more fun than an SXS but the truth is people want to take friends or family with them and enjoy a lazy car like seating and driving experience with blaring radios and beer cans. That is why ATVs are dwindling and side-by-side‘s sales are rocketing. I guarantee you if you bought for premium ATVs the cost would be much more than a premium for place SXS
@rezonatorthe100 Жыл бұрын
I hope that the atv market continues. Part of riding fun is the freedom of being outdoors on too of a vehicle and not just inside of one. The sportsman 1000 xp offers all of the abilities to go anywhere a sxs can go still , yes you need to be in better shape to stay on one all day.
@ronlawson5819 Жыл бұрын
Personally I’m a ATV rider for life,as for the market I think pricing is a big part of the smaller line ups.After riding 500 class atvs….I finally stepped up to an 850.What a difference,well worth the price in my book.Thanks for listening to us with the added ATV products
@brianhammond812 жыл бұрын
Here in West Virginia I’ve noticed that the ATV market is still doing good I think it will remain good for us die hard atv riders
@daxmorlock78462 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the twin cylinder. I bought a 570 trail the beginning of the year and think it's a great machine. When I hear any twin running I think to myself that I should've went for the big dog. I already feel like an old man for buying a utility atv. A sxs is IMO for old people. I went with a polaris because they're the best looking. Love all the videos.
@grunfieldf86942 жыл бұрын
Yes,the ATV market is definitely shrinking. Most people now days didn't grow up on motorcycles and ATV'S like my generation did. Most of my friends had a bike from the time of 12yrs old on. My knees won't take that anymore so I ride Atv's now. I like the Atv's because of the challenge, not responsible for anyone else, and I can get into places one can't get a SxS. Most places here in East Tennessee are tight woods riding and I love it!
@jacobg5122 Жыл бұрын
Here in Colorado, and I'd imagine a lot of other states as well, there are some trails with a 50" width limit, and most of those have a gate that won't allow anything bigger than that through. The SxS guys have started finding increasingly convoluted ways to go around these gates and it ruins the trails because those machines don't fit in the established ruts and lines. I never used to dislike SxS owners, but I'm starting to.
@Hammy162 жыл бұрын
I think the ATV options are shrinking because the market is moving towards side-by-sides. There are great ATV's on the market from multiple manufacturers but I think the barrier of entry for a family to get into the sport is lower with a side-by-side where you can take young kids along and not have to worry about everyone having their own machine and the associated costs of multiple machines. I do think Polaris continues to be the leader in the ATV market and has outstanding products across the board.
@garyawasis-qr5rp Жыл бұрын
I ordered mine in November last year and got it mid-January... Long story short... I researched this machine before I purchased it and was not disappointed with it! Great video & content! Cheers!
@robertbates8599 Жыл бұрын
You obviously have folks that bust your chops on your reviews...don't know why because your awesome and I love your content. Your very detailed and certainly knowable.
@dirttraxtv Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@sigscorpion92752 жыл бұрын
Just got my XP 1000 and it is one bad ass machine. Still breaking in the belt.
@jeffery15242 жыл бұрын
Everybody is right who commented. We should applaud companies like Yamaha for still making sport ATVs and all the ones still selling two strokes.
@andrewvantassel51812 жыл бұрын
I have a 850 ultimate trail and love it. It should be noted since you talked about cleaning the rad, the front grill peice comes right out in less than a second letting you access the radiator directly. Also the gauge pod on that does have Bluetooth connection to your phone for notifications I think the atv demand is decreasing causing the line ups to decrease. It seems people just enjoy sxs more now and it's easier to have multiple people come along with you.
@aaronspicer1093 Жыл бұрын
I just got my 2023 sportsman 850 ultimate trail edition and I agree on many of your points. and i got the plow option, extended racks, heated grips and thumb lever and I must say it has not left me wanting anything. maybe deeper lug tread on the tires, i love this thing. yes I wish the aftermarket/option segment was larger, go into the dealer and pick up whatever you want but then again there are a lot of things sold in motorcycle dealerships that can tickle your fancy too aswel as good old internet purchaces. example the 60 dollar dirtbike hand guards I got off of amazon, not quite a must have but its nice to have some protection over the hands.
@Fossillarson Жыл бұрын
full wrap bar hand guards 1st purchase after my last two quads then pipes or tires etc. :)
@justinfranks21032 жыл бұрын
I think the ATV market is shrinking because more people are buying side by sides simple supply and demand. My generation grew up on ATC’s so I think we gravitate more towards ATV’s. To each their own. Great video!
@badazzoutdoors404 Жыл бұрын
I’m 55 now. And ever since they first came on the market it was a 3 wheeler first. Then on to quads. Been riding them ever since. Then in 2021 the sxs crave hit me. I just had to have 1 no matter what. My excuse was so that my kids and grandkids could come ride with me. Though it was fun 20:45 everyone still wanted to ride their own machines. I ride every weekend and now I’m realizing a single person in a sxs just wasn’t as fun as I thought it would be. Deep down I was beginning to miss quads. Well I decided to move back. I went out and purchased a new Polaris 850 ultimate trail. And that machine actually made me realize how much I missed riding quads. I still kept the sxs. Mainly we just use it for backup support and recovery now. It’s too bad that the sxs craze is affecting the quad market.
@dirttraxtv Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the difference in price for an ATV is so appealing they're in high demand from a smaller market. Nice to see Can-Am make a price point ATV with the new Outlander line though.
@dustyparkwood79192 жыл бұрын
Great ? To be asking Luke. I personally have 3 ATV all Polaris 1 570 1 850 1 1000xp love all of them. For the polaris ATV line up what more do you need. Yes it is smallish but they have everything from a beginner rider to a seasoned pro. As far as side x side it is kind of unfortunate that there are more SXS out there. But like I’ve said for years if you ain’t riding your just driving. Will the ATV market go away all together i sure hope not but time will tell. Will the SXS rule all maybe. But not rite at the moment. So to all the finger pointers out there lets all enjoy the sport and remember it is a privilege to be out on these trails not a rite…. Thanks again for all the great videos guys keep them coming.
@jellehesselink40112 жыл бұрын
The sport sxs has taken a big chunk of the atv market share for sure, but it's important to remember not that long ago, sport side x sides didn't exist. I think there will always be a market for atvs, as they're still very relevant and they definitely have their place.
@davidh1314 Жыл бұрын
The cup holder is money!!!!! I use it all the time. It's an amazing machine. Nice, complete review. Thanks
@greener27322 жыл бұрын
I agree with most that the atv market is shrinking and think it is due to the SxS popularity bringing the whole family within one vehicle type of thing. But I hope they keep the lineups with some options still. They are great for hunting, work around the house or farm due to them being more nimble and take up less storage space. Also you don’t need as big of a trailer or you can load them into a pickup. Thanks for giving us great content!!!
@TODxSNIPER Жыл бұрын
I got this on my comment as well is it real? Not s scam.
@Hondasixfiveo Жыл бұрын
@@TODxSNIPER it's a scam.
@joshcanziani8679 Жыл бұрын
I wish you guys would do a review on the 850 since the last one you did was 10 years ago and could compare it to a 1000 to help buyers decide which is better for them considering the price difference
@ranger6x660 Жыл бұрын
Great review. I'm currently looking at the 2023 850 Ultimate Trail vs the 1000 Ultimate Trail. Plowing snow, hunting and trail riding is my 3 main uses. Not sure if the 1000 with the 3 drive modes is worth the extra money.
@Jimmie5722 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ATV content 🤘 I've never been interested in the SXS. I'll watch some of the SXS videos just to stay up on things. But ATV's is where its at for me. I don't see myself ever getting a SXS I drive truck so I'm always in that seated position with a steering wheel. I like being able to stand up on ATV's especially when going through a water crossing. Who enjoys sitting in water in a SXS? And if things go wrong its easier to bail on a ATV. In a SXS your just along for the ride.
@gregjones2217 Жыл бұрын
I've had Polaris atvs for 25 years and always been happy. Right now I believe the atv selection is sufficient. I would hate to see it decline further. I'm getting old enough that I have gone to a SXS. Mostly for the back support. I still miss my old 500 sportsman.
@abigailnumber22 жыл бұрын
Chicken-egg egg-chicken. They’re going to build more of what they believe will sell more. Doesn’t mean they’re always right, but that’s always their motivation. Good video. Thanks
@robertpomerleau73512 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a shame that atv manufacturers are pushing more towards side by side, they have there place no doubt, but for me it’s all about rider input. I recently purchased a 2022 CF moto 800xc, because of pricing, I didn’t have 20,000$ to spend, to have my family enjoy the sport I loved so much growing up. I wish every manufacturer would invest a little more into atv’s, it’s not a one size fits all for everyone, and certainly different price points should be looked at, it’s such a fun sport, and brings family and friends closer, that everyone should be able to enjoy, love your work Dirt Trax, been a fan for a long time, always look forward to your shows.
@robertpomerleau7351 Жыл бұрын
lol not sure where to Dm to claim a prize, im so pumped though lol
@jeffh7496 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always. Now come south and get your damn cold weather because it's down here ruining my riding!
@Swindy17942 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you call a hunt edition a “base model”.. I have a hunt edition, it’s probably one of the most optioned out trim levels there is, with the exception of the ride command touch screen. I love mine. 2024.. 1000
@ArtisanalBeachProspector282 жыл бұрын
I like the cup holder, I think it's a after thought of when you come to a rest area, so that you don't spill your drink. If you ever had your drink spill, I like it.
@ryanburke9655 Жыл бұрын
I love both a utv and a atv i own both and i ride both and they both have their advantages but i hate to say it has to do with the market more people are interested in buying a utv because thats what is popular right now and they keep growing everyday
@longboardguy Жыл бұрын
Love the channel been watching a while 🇨🇦👍. That new sportsman 1000 trail edition is sure a beautiful beast. . I have to say I do love my 2016 Sportsman 850sp H.O. still and I think I’ll be keeping that beast for a long while yet as I haven’t had any issues with and it was my first brand new bought atv. It’s in excellent shape as well still as I only trail ride with it. I can’t believe she’s already just about 7 years old! Can’t wait to see some snowmobile content this winter. I’ve got my 2011 mxz 600 tnt but I would like an upgrade on that one day. Another season or two and it will become a spare machine for friends, family etc.
@dirttraxtv Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hold onto that sled! Used machines are like gold right now. SnowTrax is back soon!!!
@longboardguy Жыл бұрын
@@dirttraxtv yes can’t wait for a snowtrax again! and will do! It does seem everyone is looking snowmobiles especially trail machines seem hard to find. This mxz has electric start option as well so it’s so easy to ride and fun.
@derekgallo97962 жыл бұрын
ATV market is shrinking because of side x sides. I wish Polaris would offer a sport quad again. I loved my 2005 Polaris Predator. It was a well thought out machine and very reliable.
@stevestephaniecaudill4879 Жыл бұрын
I agree, if anyone could help bring sport quads back I believe Polaris could. I love my Predator 500, it’s currently getting built to xc race with. Thanks to the help of Doug Nicholas the motor will rip too.
@Kevin-gn8cz2 жыл бұрын
Great looking ATV. I agree with you about the storage. Should not be under the rack. I am glad they added metal support to the racks. I also found them flimsy. Feel like it will break off. Glad to see ride command on atv’s. wish other companies would add a similar system. Ride modes are also a great idea. I think less models is a good thing. Means the models left are better. Also think the market is smaller due to trend towards SXS. The market will switch back and atv’s will be more popular. Once all the SXS folks realize the atv is superior 😁
@Jaysplaylist12 жыл бұрын
Great question and one that I bring up during a lot of group rides when there is a mix of ATV and SxSs. The market does seem to be putting a lot more marbles into the SxS market and I am not entirely sure its not pure profit driven or based off what they do for market research. I am in New Brunswick where there is a wide variety on machines on the trails and on average we see a good mix. Some rides are 70% atvs and some rides are 70% SxSs. If the makers did put more time and effort into their ATVs, perhaps they would see an increase in ATV sales. ATVs usually cost a lot less the SxS so moving the marketing towards ATVers the same as SxSers may allow more people to get out and enjoy the great outdoors if they are on a budget. The same would go with auto makers.. all SUV and trucks now so no cars?? Not every person can afford a big truck or a big SxS. Get the ATV market flowing again like the late 90's and I bet you would see an increase in sales again. Thats my 2cents worth on the situation.
@andreww4885 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always. I was torn between this and the XP S….bought the S yesterday. 😁. Pretty pumped. Going back to a quad from the RMAX. I don’t think I’ll be able to go many years without a sxs but excited to ride quads again. Would love to see an updated vid of the XP S…maybe a side by side comparison with this model? Anyway, pick mine up next week 👍. Appreciate your work with these vids 🙂👍
@philliplucke13392 жыл бұрын
Love the video and a lot of great information can’t wait for more
@Themagalorian4 ай бұрын
Just bought one of these coming from a rancher 420 and 450r’s this thing is a absolute beast!! Hopefully it lasts and is as dependable as my rancher!
@white21472 жыл бұрын
We ride Hatfield McCoy alot and are starting to see more 4wheelers every trip
@csmlawnandlandscape76192 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I was looking at a Polaris Hunter Edition in 2019 and 2020 and the same model is several thousand dollars more for the same Hunter Edition with same/similar equipment. Also, this 2023 looks like the same Polaris Sportsman XP 1000 that's been around since 2018 with the exception of the LED lights. Did Polaris address and fix the issue with the one-way bearing and the play in the handles? I recall these issues being a problem with past model year XP 1000 models. My main concern has been the quality control and all the recalls. For example the stop ride order currently in place. It seems once you hit the 1000 mile mark, things start to go south real fast from what I've read and seen with the XP 1000. I love the looks of the Sportsman, but quality and reliability are also important before I purchase. Lastly, I can't tell, but does the 2023 XP 1000 still have the arched A-Arms? Thanks again for the review on the 2023 model.
@biffdotorg2 жыл бұрын
For ice fisherman, the bucket indents are money! ATV’s are becoming a niche so the market is shrinking. The utility in SXS’s and the ability to include the spouse, pushed us past the atv market quickly. That doesn’t mean we don’t have one in the stable. Albeit, a vintage 1984 Yamaha Moto-4 200, fully restored!
@biffdotorg Жыл бұрын
Are there just a ton of phoney message bots in the comments section? I have no less than three Dirt trax accounts wanting me to DM them on Telegram
@jakekirker73882 жыл бұрын
I’m personally an ATV guy and where I ride on the east coast the trails are tighter! I think the market is definitely shrinking. But everyone is still offering a grate line up of rigs! We don’t need 47 different models from every! Sxs’s are definitely taking over! And I think it’s more for the family aspect. It’s a hell of a lot safer to take your spouse or kits out with a seat belt and a role cage than on the back of a atv! Just my 2 cents. Keep up the grate work guys love the show and have been watching sense I was a kid! Lol (still feel like 1 when I’m riding!) lol
@kylearmitage28862 жыл бұрын
I have this same model in an 850. I'm not sure if it's worth the money to step up to 1000 for the extra 10hp but I love these bikes. I think options are shrinking because the market is shrinking. side by sides are taking over, even for myself if it wasn't for my tight forest trails I would upgrade to a general or rzr. having both is expensive. the issues you pointed out about storage on the bike i totally agree. there is lots of storage compared to other brands but when I put tools on my rack I can no longer access the rear bin. other than that I don't have much to complain about.
@brandondannys-menary3678 Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely worth it, I’ve ridden both and there’s a huge difference in torque and wheelie power
@hunterwolf84432 жыл бұрын
I just got my 2023 xp 1000 ultimate trail edition and I love it 😀, in sport mod is crazy !!!
@jaredfleming55722 жыл бұрын
The front grill also pops out super easy too clean your rad out. Not to many people know about that.
@gregwikiel12182 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe the ATV market is getting smaller. Manufacturers are probably building to demand, and people are buying more SxS and UTV because of ease of operation. ATV is probably harder to ride in rough terrain and off camber situations. Keep up the great work 👍
@jakemccann27902 жыл бұрын
For Polaris to put out the 1000 in a trail version now is about 5 years late . Polaris customers deserve better efforts from the huge company that is willing to make half ass decisions and substandard equipment at over premium prices Thanks for your time and thanks for another great video
@JeffCarsboatsatvs Жыл бұрын
My 1000 is a 2019 xp1000 what are you talking about been out since 2018 or 2019 . 90 hp before that I had a 850xp 78 hp 2 mph difference. Lol 1000 has been out for at least 4 years if not 5
@jakemccann2790 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffCarsboatsatvs 1000 "TRAIL"
@JEFCOR2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the question on the ATV vs SXS market. The manufacturers are always looking for ways to up sell you, whether its in accessories or the next optioned up model. When your shopping for these higher end ATV's, they are very near or at SXS prices (before you load them up with options). The SXS looks like a better bang for the dollar to allot of buyers, hence the increase in sales and appeal. Manufacturers are keen on moving people up into the SXS options, they seem to market something for every budget (more so than ATV's), the bigger bore ATV's are priced to a point were you at least need to entertain the SXS option. If the manufacturers get you into a SXS, then they can sell you what seems to be an unlimited amount of SXS accessories. Trust me, its easy to spend $10,000+ on SXS accessories without trying too hard, this cant normally be said for ATV accessories. I presently own a 2019 RZR 1000XP Ride command, a 2019 Sportsman 850 HO and a 2022 Sportsman 850 Ultimate trail. My cost of ownership on the SXS is more than the 2 Sportsman combined, this is why the ATV market options are shrinking in my opinion, because there is simply more money to be made with SXS's owners. However given the present challenges with manufacturer supply of parts, stop rides and long waits for crowded dealerships. And then factor the rising costs to borrow , purchase and maintain, think the SXS trend will soon revert back towards ATV's, or worse, a mass exit of people from the sport. These were factors for me when I decided to purchase my 2022 Sportsman 850 Ultimate instead of another SXS. I like some of the new SXS offerings, but at these price points, I think durability, value and warranties needs to improve. Enjoy your channel
@swhennick24792 жыл бұрын
I had a 16 570 sportsmen touring SP and a 18 grizzly I sold both to get a 22 rzr trail s so I could take a passenger and have them sit beside me. With the cost of the sxs's going up a lot of potential customers are being priced out of the sxs market so I see the atv segment increasing in the future because of cost.
@BoostedBoyd Жыл бұрын
As much as I love quadin, I'd piick Sxs over atv always. Most likely for the same reasons most do. Family and pets 😄 When it's -25 to -35°C here in Fort Mac you don't see many ATVs ripping the trails but you can always wave at a passer by in a Sxs with his wife, kids and dog 👍 My quad burnt in my garage few years ago ( winch wires arc 🔥) Ended up buying a Sxs to suit our family needs. We see many people selling their ATVs up here and buying sxs's. Whays funny is the ones who buy open cab sport sxs's, then put them up for sell/ trade for a Defender / Ranger with heat and A/C 😄
@dylong27292 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s about time 😊
@rjnixon1061 Жыл бұрын
I believe the ATV market has shrunk because the market has switched to the SXS side. I ride ATV and drive Jeeps and I’ve seen the same SXS groups on both sides of my hobbies. Love my HighLifter!
@phezmann47322 жыл бұрын
I have a Polaris XP 1000S and it is awesome. do a show on it please. Now to your question, the options are shrinking because the market is shrinking due to SxS sales
@jtjayman302 жыл бұрын
I believe atv are coming back but need to be road Worthy i have a 2022 850 ultimate trail and love the bike
@lucasalamo78882 жыл бұрын
I love both ATVs and Side by Sides but I think Polaris has the right amount of choices for ATV buyers. However I do believe that SxS sales could be on their way down due to increasing costs. I think ATVs could have a resurgence in the next couple of years.
@joeyholthusen6495 Жыл бұрын
When the atv weighs almost more than a arctic cat trail 700 utv, or a honda pioneer 500 idk. I wish they try and keep they weight down. I'd never like my daughter riding this, rather have her on my modded yamaha raptor 770 I actually see that to be a safer option because of weight. Not stability necessarily incase of rollover should happen. I guess it's one thing that I love about the Japanese atvs is the weight. I miss the scrambler 400 2-stroke because it was light 4x4. Probably going to buy and build my own with a big twin snowmobile engine 700-850cc. My daughter actually has a modded yamaha blaster I built for her it, tops out at 72mph stock was 55mph or so. It's at the limits of pump gas and geared to the moon, it actually beats my brother's Polaris scrambler 400 2-stroke 4x4 in a drag race for 2 high line pole lengths. 🤫 awesome video. Keep up the great work guys. I hope yamaha, kawasaki, or suzuki go 1000cc in a atv and keep it light and nimble.
@dwaynegarrett95732 жыл бұрын
The market for ATV's is definitely shrinking. People enjoy having a companion along, the safety of rollover protection and the ability to get out of the elements is definitely a plus. Will they ever vanish? No, they will always have their place (I'm going to keep buying them), but for a growing number of people, UTV's make more sense.
@zachreilly8266 Жыл бұрын
MOre atv videos of all the new quads please!!!!!
@redsfan1135 Жыл бұрын
If all the sudden the nation buys more ATV’s than side by side. They will make more ATV’s. I miss riding my 4 wheelers but my rzr is great family fun on one machine. Whatever you like be safe and enjoy.
@TODxSNIPER2 жыл бұрын
I believe the market for ATVs is shrinking. We have limited atv options because the demand is down. I love my 570 premium it's the swiss army knife of ATVs. I also have the Segway fugleman and it's really trick.
@michaelmiller28332 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the ATV market is shrinking. I own an ATV (Polaris Sportsman 850) and SXS (Can Am Commander 1000) and they each have their advantages and disadvantages. IMO there is no better feeling/experience than riding on an ATV trail along side a winding creek. You have more control, and maneuverability in the ATV. My SXS is much safer, and is more practical in terms of working on my land, collecting wood, landscaping chores, etc. Thanks for all the great content!
@garycraig4277 Жыл бұрын
I moved to Alaska last year and didn’t have our 6x6 when winter hit so I bought a 850 sportsman and love it it’s got a 60” plow heated hand grips, and a winch, also a heated thumb throttle. Haven’t opened it up yet its only got about 15 hours on it but going to see what it will do this summer
@lobbyrobby2 жыл бұрын
15:08 1,090 hp! Impressive lol. Thanks for the review. I can't afford anything like that but someday I'd like to upgrade my 4 wheeler
@brandondannys-menary3678 Жыл бұрын
I have this exact 1000 sportsman, best quad I’ve ever ridden (including the renegade 1000 xxc) although the Polaris reliability concerns me. I have around 900 miles in mine and the starter went out, will have to be warrantied for god know how long
@brandondannys-menary3678 Жыл бұрын
Update: they only had it for a week and it was the starter relay that went out, however it’s located inside the starter itself, which was $500, luckily I didn’t pay anything out of pocket
@bryangrim6021 Жыл бұрын
Awesome machine. You’re so right about the battery tender. Should just be standard equipment with the ATVs at this point. 😆
@Outlander187 ай бұрын
Will Polaris ever include Walker Evans or Fox adjustable shocks on their Sportsmans?
@tmccormick48 Жыл бұрын
ATV is for pleasure riding and a real work horse. I prefer an ATV for sure
@thunderpuppyxyz2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know the numbers to back this up, but it certainly seems as though UTV sales are taking some ATV sales away. Perhaps ATV sales are flat whereas UTV sales have exploded. I’d like to see Polaris update the styling on the Sportsman Touring to match the styling of the rest of their Sportsman XP line.
@joshmills78892 жыл бұрын
I'm 26 and have been riding atv all of my life. I started on a 99 trailblazer 250 and my dad rode a 99 Scrambler 400. I love atv's over sxs's all day which is why I bought a 22 sportsman 1000 S and still own the 99's to this day. I feel like the the big names are just not giving enough color options or creative touches to the atv market. Their is plenty of accessories they offer from the factory but nothing to really give it a personality of it's unless you go aftermarket. As DirtObsexxion says they don't care about the atv market as much as they do for the $20,000 and up sxs market and seeing a trailer load of atv's for the family is a lot cooler than seeing 1 sxs that you can't fit on the scenic trails is.
@TechDvrNJ Жыл бұрын
Great vid, ty for all the information. The ATV market is shrinking because dealers make more on financing the big machines. Whether that caused the accessory market to shrink as well is debatable but very likely.
@markmacdonald64522 жыл бұрын
A lot of the consumers want an off-road vehicle to use with their families. As all off-road vehicles become more expensive, a lot of consumers realize they can buy a single UTV and use it with their kids or partners instead of buying multiple vehicles. I own an ATV, but do recognize the advantages of a UTV for taking a my wife or kids along and the increased work capability.
@atv_lifestyle2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a mix of both. I think ya as customers like the scs market as we can bring the family with and they are always coming out with something new and better in the sxs market which gets customers excited to try something new. Where is with the ATV market there hasn’t really been Andy thing new to get us excited. I believe the main focus on ATV buyers is for budget and more of the single people that want to get out and ride. I personally love both I like being able to bring my family with in a sxs to enjoy it with them but also love my atvs as they are easy to throw in the truck go ride for the day. I also enjoy being able to throw them around a little more. I find it more of an art to ride an ATV in the mud as well.
@beeamazzzinghives Жыл бұрын
SXS's and ATV's both have different markets. I have always been a Polaris guy. For hard core trails I currently have a RS1 which is my favorite when riding alone. It is a beast. I have a Turbo used when I take my daughter along or my wife joints in on a ride at moderate trails. She then drives the RS1. Then I have a 2018 Sportsman 570 Hunter Edition for hunting and easy riding. I just picked up a twin Hunter Edition last night. I think they are definitely more focused on SXS's than ATV's because they make tons of money on upgrades. Can't do as much on a ATV. That's why the Hunter Editions are a great choice. I don't see a reason why they eliminated the lower rear trunk storage on the newer ATV"s I love and use that space. The 1000's with the top access rear storage seems not thought out well. A lot of older members in the market too, like myself, and as the saying goes "with age comes a cage" so I think that also factors in to marketing.
@muddybadgers5205 Жыл бұрын
I'll go against the grain here. I don't think the ATV market is shrinking and I don't think it has ever shrunk. The UTV market is just exploding in comparison. It's easier for a first timer to start with a UTV because it's similar to driving a car, and the cage makes them feel safer. You also have the manufacturers focusing more on UTV's, because even though they use a lot of the same components as an ATV, they can sell it for twice as much. Then you add things like radios, roofs, windshields, any parts that you don't really get for an ATV, and you can double the price of the UTV. So they're selling a decked out UTV for 4 times as much as a regular ATV, and they only had to make 4 tires, two diffs, one engine, one transmission, and so on. That's just smart business You can tell they want to phase out atv's just based on the lack of effort they put into them, but they can't because that market is still growing
@ryanmyette6576 Жыл бұрын
I’d say the market is shrinking a bit because of the demand for side by sides, HOWEVER, I don’t think this is a bad thing. I think the manufacturers need to stop producing 15 different versions of the same machine (to the point where you have no idea what trim level comes with what options), and instead do fewer machines, but really well. I think most ATV’s are purpose-ridden - work, sport, trails, and mud. It would be nice to see them really focus on those categories and give each different rider the best possible options for their preference. You guys are awesome, I too live in Ontario about an hour away. Long time fan, keep up the good work!
@rodneyfarwell33962 жыл бұрын
ATV options are shrinking because that's the way the market is moving, which is unfortunate. People are moving more and more to side by sides. Nothing against that but I think ATVs are much funner to ride.
@wtfbuddy12 жыл бұрын
Nice review Luke - interesting question, comes down to use for work or play. Buy one UTV/SxS and you and the wife can enjoy but both can't operate at same time, buy two ATV's and both can enjoy and if one breaks down, you are not stranded with a pissed off wife. Yes the SxS market has exploded, showrooms full and second hand ads for sale is approx 50% of ads for ATV/UTV's. Every maker is competing for your dollars, new and revolutionary improvements are the latest "Look Cool Factor" people want to brag about, but do you "really need it". ATV/UTV's market is being driven by options on them, not the way to do business but banks will give you a loan for anything and people want everything. So my answer to your question is - What is it like to want. Walk into any dealer and they will push you to the next model and pressure you into big purchases. I want another ATV for the wife with IRS and max 500cc EFI and not green in color - hard to find but still looking. Cheers and sorry for the long rant, I'm Canadian and it's in our upbringing.
@chazman44612 жыл бұрын
I think as UTV / Side x sides get more expensive, ATV's will come back. I do think simplifying their line up with the economy, parts issues, and so on is a really good idea for now. However, I think people looking at the UTV prices will eventually go back to ATV's. I have a 2022 1000 ultimate trail. I work it a lot doing utility work. The racks and storage have been great. No water in the rear even with a pressure washer washing it. I do not like how the tires throw mud on me. I can tow my neighbors 20ft landscape trailer up my gravel road in AWD and low gear and it will dig and dig to pull it. I absolutely would buy it again. I have zero regrets with it. It is a monster. I rarely use performance mode and honestly, it is on the stupid side in performance mode. Work mode is nice in the woods moving firewood around. The lighting is awesome and the polaris glacier plow is also engineered well. The only issue I wish they took care of was to give you some plugs to fit in the holes on the racks. I enjoy the machine and I would not go back despite the price. I have installed a horn and turn signal kit also. Polaris did very well with this machines design.
@EC_ATV_Outdoors Жыл бұрын
I've had the High Lifter, currently have the 850 touring. They are great machines. But what I hate is that Polaris has the worst intake/exaust locations. The CVT in is too low and forward facing and the rear is low and no P trap design. I rigged up a good CVT exaust relocate and no longer worry that puddles are splashing into the CVT. And I mean puddles. Not water holes. But thats my gripe for a Sportsman. If I ever consider another brand, the front storage is going to be the toughest thing to give up.
@heatherherold4444 Жыл бұрын
They are both used for individual needs. I’m a diehard atv rider. If my budget allowed me to have a sxs I would get one.
@rezonatorthe100 Жыл бұрын
Great review. I luv my xp 1000 RC
@teamtoba14 Жыл бұрын
The ATV market is shrinking from previous % because of side by sides. But there's still more ATVs out there than there was years ago. Before it was only farmers and hunters that had ATV's (the odd weekend warriors on sport quads). Farmers never sold there's and traded in for new ones because they lasted (we still have both our Honda trx and Polaris 300 from the 90's). The wave of people getting out on the trails boomed and then the RZR came along and they were a more comfortable ride for the weekend rider. Theres still lots of engine options for ATVS but with add ons I think just a couple engine options is all you need and then just add the options you want.
@alaskanassasin2 жыл бұрын
@dirttrax; no shortage of interest. I have thought about buying an ATV even though we have a side by side. Nothing changes the ride by yourself that hasn’t changed folks. Seeing the Polaris rig, that makes me want to buy one. It’s aggressive looking and has the hp to back it up. Don’t know who objects to that; but it’s not me!
@jayminor24283 ай бұрын
I got my sportsman XP 1000 last month. And I've only got to write it once because it has a recall notice because of possible fire. They have no idea when they'll be able to get it fixed. So it just sits there while I make payments
@dinkydotzero2 жыл бұрын
I think with the rise of others like Can-Am and Artic Cat the Polaris market had to shrink. And with the costs involved with bring a new unit to market I think we will see more evolution than revolution type rides
@elliottfletcher46222 жыл бұрын
The ATV market is shrinking because so many people want side by sides. This is very noticeable at Windrock in east Tennessee. Which is good for my Sportsman 570 because all the ruts the Side by Sides make on the hills' you can the strattle the ruts with the narrower ATV width.
@markflaugh22932 жыл бұрын
There are less ATV choices because more people are switching to SxS. I have had 5 atv’s in my garage at one time, no not all new, but for a family to go ride that’s what it was. I bought a Honda Pioneer 5 and have one atv left. I love riding ATV’s but it is easier to talk the wife into going riding if she doesn’t have to drive herself. Let’s face it, if the wife isn’t happy it’s harder for you to go ride as much as you want. SxS make sense when it comes to being able to take the wife or kids and not have to worry if they can handle the trail. I know they need to learn but it is more relaxing if they are just riding in the SXS with you. I do think ATV’s are about to come back in a big way with the prices of SxS’s getting expensive.
@xxcatv Жыл бұрын
I think the reason for the switch to SXS and subsequent shrinking of the ATV market is not any one reason but a number of factors combined: Familiarity of opperation where almost any user that drives a vehicle can simply get in and go (not going to be an advanced user but with capabilities of machines today they sure enhance driver ability). Safety, providing users in most cases a roll cage, seatbelts and seats that protect a user in cases of a crash (yes there are Safety products like the rollover bar for ATV units but its an addon / afterthought). Another consideration is price, with entry SxS units at a similiar price point to high performance/ top of the line ATV units buyers are forced to consider how and who they plan to use a unit with and if they can save by purchasing a single unit vs multiple units. Lastly I think we have to consider mindset, there are extreme users in any powersport and they know what they want based on their style however to the majority of the public its more of a "get out with friends and have fun" mindset. SxS become quite attractive given the stock and easy expansion of features (stereo, cabin, extra passenger seat, heater etc.) that again forces the user to think about how they want to use it and have fun with friends. I mean its much easier to sit in a heated cabin and be able to talk directly with your buddy then having to stop next to them on a trail and shout. Again that comes down to mindset and style of riding where for me I will always prefer an ATV and specifically a CAN-AM Renegade but thats just my riding style preference.
@AkDeluxeRider2 жыл бұрын
I think the atv market is dropping because it’s more affordable and easier to run SXS with a family. And with the atv choices shrinking, it’s inspiring fewer generations to get into it. The way they market, a 15 year is getting googlie eyes over the super rad new SXS a lot more than the polished old ATVs. Btw it does sound wicked! Made the hair on my arms stand up!
@DonsATVAdventures2 жыл бұрын
I think the atv market is slightly shrinking. There is still alot out there on the trails though thats forsure but im wondering if the atv market is shrinking a little because of the cost of the atvs these days . I realize sxs's are not getting any cheaper either but some of the larger CC atvs are up over 15 grand now . In 2021 I bought my first sxs and I admit I definitely enjoy the sxs especially on long rides but i still have my 2019 Grizzly SE that also still love to ride . Like others are saying there is alot of couples getting into the sport and the sxs is perfect for that . My wife had a Grizzly aswell but she much rathers being a passenger in the sxs than riding atv herself.
@ericlessard50212 жыл бұрын
I want to know more about the rear suspension geometry, it s interesting. And for the atv market, just bring back a 2 stroke sport atv lol
@robertm8250 Жыл бұрын
I think the atv market not shrinking, but people must choose between buying four quads or four seats for a family. you can find a reasonable priced sxs for less than four quads. and also trailering four quads is a problem.
@bryann7073 Жыл бұрын
Profits are much larger in the SXS market so I believe manufacturers are pushing more SXS sales and products over ATVs. I personally prefer handlebars over steering wheels though so I personally like ATVs more.
@ve3xtr2 жыл бұрын
That was last weeks weather in central Ontario. You could probably do a sled review now.
@dirttraxtv2 жыл бұрын
100 percent! In Tobermory right now and expecting a massive storm overnight.
@christianxzowner29582 жыл бұрын
Is there anything after market for that rad hole...i wouldnt want to get poked there
@johnmorton61502 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more of a demand thing and that’s why it’s shrinking. We used to have ATVs and then we sold them and bought a RZR after trying several SXS, since then anybody who takes the RZR out for a ride who has an ATV, loves the ride, loves the enclosure, and we all really like not getting banged up as much. It’s especially good for the extreme riding we do in BC.
@TheVonMatrices2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to take a quote from you and comment that the exhaust sounds like any other Polaris inline twin engine.😜
@malachistuive28712 жыл бұрын
The ATV Segment is shrinking because of the price point. When on a outing on a ATV you’ll need two ATV or one side by side to go with another person. It normally a share sport. It’s cheaper to buy a SXS. Than two ATV. Especially considering if you wanted performance from an ATV. The price point goes up
@TheBandit76132 жыл бұрын
The UTV/ATV market is neither good or bad, it just is. People by what they want. The ATV market is shrinking because so many are going to UTV's with much better suspensions, heated seats, and built-in GPS and sound systems. ATV's are not as plush as SxS's.
@jacobmyers42202 жыл бұрын
My thinking is the lineup is shrinking because the market is shrinking. But it seems like they kind of roll some model's features into others making it look like a smaller lineup. I know my local dealer sells a ton of those ATVs (almost the same percentage compared to UTV's). But with the changing demographic within the last maybe10 years it makes sense. More families going riding choosing the safer properties of a SXS over putting kids on an ATV is my hypothesis. Plus SXS's are Polaris's honeypot so whatever sells better gets more marketing attention. But It could change 2-3 years from now. That's just how the world works anymore, less predictability.
@craigwavra34952 жыл бұрын
I believe the market is shrinking and that is driving the options down. Now that said, I think Polaris has the right sizes for the different options they deliver.
@VetiExotics Жыл бұрын
Is the atv market shrinking? Like actual evidence in sales? Or is it remaining steady? I can see utv’s being more popular for all the reasons already mentioned. But I also see atvs being very popular from a cost standpoint alone. I’ve ridden dirt bikes and atvs my whole life. Bought a rzr xp1000 and didn’t like it much. Awesome machine don’t get me wrong but it’s so different than a quad. I want to ride not sit inside a cage. Riding an atv is more work but it’s much more rewarding in my opinion. Love seeing people getting outside into nature though.