Polaris Sportsman XP 850 vs Can Am Outlander 800

[@stephenwilson2504]

I think Dirt Trax guys work for Polaris personally. This guy said noting about flooding your air box full of oil. I must have a special edition lol.

[@JohnnyRebKy]

Looks like Polaris has come a long way since I owned and rode them. I had 2 and quit buying them back in 2002 after having both be complete junk. We used to make bets on which Polaris would break down first on our rides back then. But looks like they sorted it out and make good stuff these days. Next time I buy I may give one a look

[@ricknelson4764]

I own a 2018 850sp and my brother has an 800 outlander and here in N. Idaho I can tell you that he has never been able to keep up with me and he is often beat up and sore after a hard ride while I am ready to go agin the next day. Thanks for a great product Polaris!

[@bballplaya123678]

@khower what about the new visco lok? i have seen videos of the visco lok qe and it still looks like when give it little bits of gas on slow crawls if you are in a ditch it can let you slide

[@ir193]

Is there a vid when they compare the 850 to the 750 Kingquad? Because i noticed that the kingquad 750 is the only quad they didn't compare with.

[@justloggit22]

didn't anybody see this was brought to you by Polaris when the video started.

[@CarzanpaintBall4life]

@Hitmannick10 what if theres a bunch rocks or logs at the bottom and u dont see them till its to late?

[@zublacus]

@Heavyevy420 When did the 800R come out?

[@zublacus]

My mistake...it was filmed in 2008 for the 2009 model year.

[@989kriss]

@climberguys it's ok. But the 2010 outlander (800) is mutch more expensive then the 2006-2007-2008. But which one have u taked: king quad 750 EPS or a grizzly 700 EPS or a brute force 750 and the outlander 800!?

[@bmxracing-howtosandmore713]

Definitely not sponsored by Polaris

[@jetdr]

@khower I bought mine just for general use. trail riding and hunting. I haven't had any problems in mud or snow, I haven't had it buried in mud yet but for what I do it is perfect. I really don't think you can go wrong with either of them.

[@zublacus]

@keenan331 Close. CanAm is 08 (Newest available at the time) and Polaris is 09 (newest available at the time). It's an ad...don't get too wrapped around the axle.

[@Navyguy456]

Both machines are awesome! I really want a 850 but I ended up going with the 570 EPS for a few thousand less but still with great HP!

[@zublacus]

Absolutely. It's was a Polaris DVD given out free at the dealer. They ALL make biased DVD or videos to sell their product! That's their job. You watch..and take it for what's it is.

[@RenelanderTV]

@khower Like most guys they have a dual-lever brake setup for rock. makes it alot easier. They both have 12" of ground clearance, the polaris is 1" wider and the new Visco-lok QE is night and day compared to the old one. 2012 is a whole new ball game.

[@zublacus]

I do know how it works. The Polaris AWD drive system is fully locking, and electrically engaged. With the switch in AWD, once the rear wheels spin more than 20% or 1/5 of 1 turn, and electrical signal to the front diff and magnets engage the locking mechanism. The reason you shouldn't drive with the AWD off, is your Hillard gear can become magnitized..which will cause your front diff to stay locked all the time (too hard to drive).

[@DangerIndustries]

the fact is, they have a experienced company just to themselfs, just to make the top of the line motors

[@zublacus]

The problem with 14" wheels for Rock Crawling, is you now have 1" less tire for flex. You'd have to go to 28" tires, to get the same flex.

[@zublacus]

Because the renegade isn't a utility quad. It's a hybrid. Not everyone uses their quad to race around...some actually use it for 4wd application.

[@sportsman335]

@bballplaya123678 because if you look at the date the video was shot before the 800r came out

[@rumswigger]

@khower try changing a side ways belt on the polaris, or changing clutches every 4000 miles, not to mention electrical problems and when riding 2 up you loose all ground clearance, i owned a 04 and 06 polaris and they were always breaking down. not to mention body roll and crap handling, smooth ride though lol

[@lukidd]

@somekid908 yeah and it also has power steering SERIAL! and if u have LTD edition, it has even air suspention- no ATV by far had this!

[@bballplaya123678]

@khower Have you seen the new disco lok qe? it locks in less than a wheel turn. Most people have it lock in within a 1/4 turn the 850xp has to slip 5 lugs in the back before the front kicks in. Having the whole front end snap in breaks more stuff then one wheel lock in within a 1/4 turn. Jacobs magazine and ostacriuser find visco qe to be as good as the polaris system now

[@989kriss]

@climberguys are the xp really better then the outlander 800 ? :O the xp it's just a hevay machine!

[@pureoffroad]

i already have an old polaris and i borrowed an outlander 800 max xt cause i was gona buy one and the first thing i noticed was the ride is firmer on the outlander and also the visko lok on outlander drove me crazy, by the time the diff locked it was too late the quad had sunk.

[@shanesoutty]

@khower 2009, first year of the 800R has a larger throttle body, mildly more aggressive cams, little more stock clutch, newere front diff, not as fast as the new qe visco lock but much faster than the 2007 and 2008 for sure

[@tylerryan8922]

What I think is funny is that they don't let people that actually don't care for what kind of bike or name brand of bike, take them out and test them. I honestly think the outlander is more better than the Polaris

[@zublacus]

I've seen the "new" and "improved" visco-lock. The delay is still ridiculously long. Way too long for rock crawling. Doesn't mean it's not fine for some applications, just not mine.

[@Pierre123499]

I just bought a sportsman touring 850 SP 2018 and let me tell you that it's very powerful and very confortable( a big cadillac). I realy love my new quad and yes it's much better than that unfinish quad (front part) like the can am. Looks like they ran out of steel and plastic : P

[@itsme78932]

I dont care what you say, can am's rotax 800 is the ebst utility motor on the market, period!

[@zublacus]

CanAm is a nice ATV....no doubt. But....you want some advantages. 1) Locking Diff....the Visc Lok system sucks in comparison. Polaris is INSTANTLY, FULLY locking. 2) Towing capacity. CanAm is 1300, Polaris is 1900. 3) Suspension. Polaris is 1 in more in front and 1.25 inches in the rear. I'm not saying CanAm doesn't have advantages in other areas....I'm just pointing out 3 key reasons for Polaris.

[@zublacus]

Kinda ironic statement....since 3 Polaris RZR's finished the 111 miles of King Of The Hammers. The top 6 that were still running, were all Polaris RZR's. Every Arctic Cat and every Can Am, broke and was out of the race. The winner of the Mint 400 was....Polaris RZR. Those are 2 of the most grueling and difficult off-road races in North America. Facts, not opinion.

[@godwetrust1436]

Ken's Channel can am have a weak connection in the drive shaft. Also believe the clutch is set up to release power too quickly causing clutch failure

[@heathwhite3838]

Seems like this channel is very Polaris biased. I have a CanAm XMR 570 and it is mean. It holds up better than any Polaris I have every owned. But that doesn't mean that some of the Sportsman's are better in some areas. Thumbs up on the vid.

[@zublacus]

@rocky2win It's a little hard to compare an ATV that didn't exist when it was filmed.

[@zublacus]

No disrespect, but you don't understand how it works. The Polaris system has no effect on the motor or turning. When you turn the AWD switch on (which you should always leave on), ONLY the rear wheels turn. So normal operation, just the real wheels turn. However, if the rear wheels slip 1/5 of 1 turn or 20%, an electrical signal magnets in the front Diff, which cause the front to LOCK. All 4 wheels are now turning.

[@RenelanderTV]

That's funny! I came in first place in the KL rock crawling/climing competition this summer.2nd,3rd,4th were also Can-Ams followed by Arctic-cat and Kawasaki. The best Polaris run was 12th place. So yeah, super good in the rocks. lol Polaris makes a very good quad I give them that, but it ain't no Can-Am. You can have the bragging rights to rock crawling. I give it to you. But i'll keep the Power, Handling, hp/lbs ratio, Kick-ass suspension and the best warranty. lol

[@fixedgearforlife]

For the pull test they should put a chain or a tow strap on the hitch of both atvs and whichever atv can pull the other one wins.

[@chevyman6033]

when any company says "800" or "850"... it doesn't mean that they have exactly that much CC.... companys go for the nearest multiple of 50

[@zublacus]

@jetdr I just went rock crawling this weekend with a CanAm...the engine is AWESOME, but the visc-lock is horrible for rock crawling. It takes way too long to spool up, and when it does, it's not fully locked. Polaris locker in the front is far superior for rock crawling. The CanAm's are much better mudders, than crawlers.

[@zublacus]

I have had 4....no mechanical problem. All of my issues are self-inflicted.

[@989kriss]

is this true ??

[@zublacus]

Ok. You are completely wrong. Polaris was the first ATV to have a FULLY LOCKING differential. The switch is called AWD. It is instantly, fully locking front differential. Polaris doesn't have "limited slip" mode. CanAM has vis-lock...TOTALLY ineffective for Rock Crawling (What I do). Go buy one of the DVD's I'm in...Mountains and Mud II, III, IV or V.

[@DangerIndustries]

my little cousin just said gabage... He knows his shit!

[@zublacus]

I own 3 Polaris....nothing has broken on them, that wasn't self-inflicted.

[@farmboykody]

the only reason why some people will belive that the 850 is better is because of a whole woping 50cc, who cares about that they will never beat can-am

[@zublacus]

@JTGROWPRODUCTIONS I would never say a canam is bad. ever. each quad can do certain things well.

[@cwillis500]

800r? i thought they were xt's?

[@lukidd]

@somekid908 no worries mate, we both know what is the best ATV on market, don't we :) nothing goes like Can-Am :)

[@thelaughingman79]

guys relax its obviously a polaris ad. i mean if it were a real comparison they would at least try to seem objective about . its true about the front locker though for some unknown reason it takes a minute to hook up.

[@sled_neckx9972]

What happens with can am is wheelies on demand My dad has had a can am for 7 years the only problem he had with it is a popped tire

[@zublacus]

I doubt it...The Polaris is built for low end torque...the Can-Am is setup for speed. Two different animals...for 2 different applications.

[@nuckenfuts12]

the new 2010 800r has basically the same as the thundercat at 71

[@sportsman335]

@Jonmichaelmuncy i personaly towed a full size camper with my sportsman 335, and that's only a 335

[@zublacus]

@rocky2win The 09 didn't exist when it was filmed.

[@zublacus]

Once again. Polaris is comparing their biggest ATV, against the biggest ATV that CanAm makes. Pretty simple concept. The visco-lok is that slow...I've heard they improved it in 2010, but yeah..it's that slow. I do agree....they should have compared the 850 to AC 1000...just to show the difference.

[@zublacus]

@jetdr For sure. CanAm great bike for mud, snow or trail riding. That's just not what I do.

[@zublacus]

Here's some education my friend. BRP is a Canadian company. Rotax, is an OLD Austrian motor manufacturer. They have been around since the 20's. Rotax builds motors for BRP, and are owned by brp...they bought the company in the 70's. The point is....brp does NOT make the rotax motors. An Austrian company that has been making motors for nearly 100 years, makes the motors FOR brp. So the fact is...they bought them, just to have their motors. I love the motors,but brp doesn't make them.

[@zublacus]

85 mph....yup..that's what a utility quad is for. :rollseyes: Better yet...I'll post a video...rock crawling, with my front wheel in the air...actually turning because my Polaris front locker...actually locked.

[@zublacus]

First of all..I realize most people don't go rock crawling...just like everyone doesn't play in the mud. Secondly, I focus on the visco lock, because it's totally inadequate for my application or anyone who enjoys rock crawling. And to your other post...no I don't fix it after every ride...every other ride..jeez. ;) If you want to watch what I do...get Mountains and Mud 4 or Mountains and Mud 5..that just was released. I rolled 2 times in the latter...didn't break anything on quad or me.

[@AndrejkaNemov]

I don't try to say that polaris is bad atv or that it sucks,no! It is very good and very powerful machine but it isnt very honestly to compare it with old model))) I have ridden 850xp 3 days ago and it is reaaly great,but a little heavy)) (Sorry for my english I am russian)

[@japan1091]

can-am is the best of the best I own one and I am really satisfied of this quad

[@bendikad]

Both are good, but i like the outlander best. And this is a old Can Am, today's Can Am would do much better...

[@zublacus]

What's a smaller ATV? Polaris compared their BIGGEST ATV against CanAm's BIGGEST ATV.

[@zublacus]

You're right..it is a sales ad. Take it for it's worth. As for Can Am...great quad. The only problem is rock crawling. They suck...Sorry. The visclock is terrible in that situation. It takes WAY too long to engage and you get in really bad situations because of it. For rock crawling, the Polaris front diff lock is the best.

[@CammerHammer1]

Did you know you have to drive 5 miles at 15 mph when the sportsman is in conditions under 10 degrees or something? Look in the polaris manual if u don't believe me

[@dant387]

i liked the 06-08 Sportsmans. i dont like the looks of the XP. i rode a 500 EFI Sportsman and a 450 carbonated Grizzly. one you get the 450 around 43 mph, it loses it. it GRADUALLY gets to 53-55. top. the Sportsman does 65 without breathing hard. and fer pulling, my Scrambler 500 ran outta gas and needed towed. we towed it with the Sportsman. i grabbed the brakes so it wouldnt pull just to mess around. it pulled it right up the driveway in 2x4. i dunno if the grizz would.

[@tjwsnt2007]

whats funny during the dyno on both the four wheeler is that it speedo says 0 mph now i dont care how they run the dyno if those back tires are turning like that the speedo WILL read the speed of which the tires are turning and in this video they are not..this video was just made to make the polaris look better but they couldnt exagerate too much because evrybody knows this thing will NEVER beat a can am..it would barely beat the sportsman 800

[@nothisispatrick68]

they put the outlander in high range for the pulling test

[@HopkClay1]

I'm not an anti Polaris guy, I like them. But why did they get the nicest version on the Polaris Sportsman against one of the lower model canam Outlanders. To me the Polaris wouldn't have shit on the Canam Outlander 1000 x mr. Seems the people at Polaris were afraid of a little competition.

[@bballplaya123678]

why dont they compare it to the outlander 800r xt that has power steering and newer engine, wuicker 4wd almost instant now, and lighter it would beat it in the 10 second run, the bumo steer would be lower and 4wd would be 1/5 a wheel turn

[@rctractorboy]

I love my polaris sportsman 500, even though its a 97 or 98 model

[@zublacus]

There's no way the Can Am would win any portion of that, EXCEPT the drag race. The Rotax engine is awesome, but the 4WD system is horrible. They've tried to fix it....but still it lags and sucks. Despite a great engine, it is at a disadvantage in all those tests, with 3 wheel drive vs 4 wheel drive.

[@dag647]

I love polaris but i would like to see this vs the tundercat just for kicks

[@SRW7538]

I have a 2011 sportsman xp efi and i have a winch and front and rear bumpers and i put a adhesive mount on the front rack for my hero2 cam and its great but a 5000 mile belt will only last a year when im driveing it the honda rencon 680 is better built and more agressive

[@thumper54505]

at 0:41 the only thing the can-am hits and shoots at is the bulls eye. polaris is all full of stray shots

[@zublacus]

I take mine snow wheeling on snow tracks....never experienced what you're talking about.

[@zublacus]

Drag racing on a utility quad, is like telling us your Ford F350 smoked a Dodge Durango. Congratulations.

[@deanbassist01]

hehe, this is like polaris owners trash talk 101, tryin to scare the guys on the outlanders to not race em and kick there ass. Kitty cat's Mud pro has 14inch rims bud, the 2010 outlanders come with most inovative power steering on the market, rear suspension adjusted at push of a handlebar button, included air compressor mounted in the atv. Oh ya, and goin down the hill he went so fast cuz he was in high, and ever heard of brakes, i dont really want my atv takin all the fun out of doin it myself

[@zublacus]

Exactly...everyone takes this WAY too seriously. This whole this brand or that brand is the best...are the same fuckers that argue Chevy Vs Ford. Pointless.

[@zublacus]

Watch the Mountains and Mud IV trailer here on KZbin. You'll see the 4WD system work. You'll see me at 1:40 and 2:00 with my right wheel in the air, turning right along with the other wheel. Don't get me wrong, Can-Ams are awesome quads...but their 4WD system doesn't work for me. It takes too long to engage.

[@AndrejkaNemov]

Even in Russia we had in 2009 outlanders 2010...

[@stewpidaso26]

i thought i seen it on their web page it said 64

[@TRAVISM3]

ask daryl rath and frank batista how well that 850 xp does against those outlanders in a GNCC race. I have an Arctic Cat 650...I believe the cats are built the best. Ive taken that thing through hell in races. I'll be getting an outlander soon since they are better for racing. Ive seen a few of these 850 xp with the front hubs broken after just a slight clip of a tree. After riding behind one...they look like they push thru corners like a mofo.

[@Turtle889]

can am and polairs to me are the 2 best

[@stewpidaso26]

um the xp has at least 70 hp and i believe on can ams website their 800 puts out 64 hp. 0.6? i dont think so

[@2752226]

BLA BLA BLA l pass Polaris' all the time on the trail. Everyone has their fav and my fav isn't Polaris. KZbin is a fun place to get rises out of people anyway. Happy riding, diversity is what makes the sport fun.

[@tjwsnt2007]

and with the whole 10 seconds distance run...if both of these quads were pulling the same weight and everything on the sled and the polaris pulled off faster at the start asdn further then it would deff have a further 10 second running distance but i guess the people who made this video didnt know what the hell they were doing

[@seansomer]

I love how much companies lie in their ads

[@DangerIndustries]

The newer can-ams can climb and crawl all over any polaris. With all these thing you compare it to, the can-am now owns the podium. Can-am is part of brp and so is rotax. They divided all the different power sports to have more concentraition on each one AND have a seperate team just for the motors. Go ahead and delete this so no one else will think that what you wrote is bullshit!

[@xXxBIGBEAR400xXx]

where is the XP 850 Vs th thundercat 1000 Video too scared to test that cuz the arctic cats bigger?

[@arkid29]

i wanna see them put the xp up vs the t-cat cause the outland would of owned that thing

[@JTGROWPRODUCTIONS]

YA YOU ARE RIGHT

[@redneckfortin3616]

polaris!!! beast!! nice video

[@zublacus]

You should really get informed before you type. cc is irrelevant. How much HP and torque does a motor have, is much more important. In 2008. the Polaris had 72 HP and the Can Am had 71 HP. Since both weigh 759lbs....guess what? Pretty much a tie. Polaris has since increased the throttle body size, which with the same "cc", has increased HP to 77hp.

[@dexterlexter123]

polairis sponsors these shows so they get a good wrap

[@zublacus]

You don't know how the Polaris works. You should ALWAYS leave a Polaris in AWD. That's the whole point of the test...there's no need on a Polaris to shift back and forth between Lock and unlock.

[@xXcanamXmanXx]

why did they use such an old outlander? this is a very unfair comparison if you did this is a 2012 outlander and sportsman the sportsman would get shit on.

[@zublacus]

@RenelanderTV Straight line....awesome quad. Can Am can't compete on the rocks. The locker system is huge fail....they keep trying to improve it...but you polish a turd...and in the end...you still have a turd.

[@rickybobbyis24]

Yeah i agree the 2010 outlander 800 ex has power steering and would walk all over the polaris. It's funny watching a polaris biased video lol!!! He almost sounds like he believes everything he says too haha