Police Accountability: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

John Oliver discusses the systems in place to investigate and hold police officers accountable for misconduct.
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[@JesseBochekTV]

love how people immediately jump to "BLM sucks" when the show didn't even mention them. you're acknowledging your own prejudice.

[@iKordz]

0:52

[@AtticusOry]

iKordz exactly, it's like no one even listens to these videos they just come here to rally.

[@mslita09]

They do suck! They suck, Feminism sucks....Anyone claiming they fight for "equality" but spreads racism, violence, propaganda, plays the victim card, and so on and so forth sucks! It's funny seeing a white man defend them when all I hear from these people is straight up racism and sexism and soooo many threats towards white people (especially white men) coming from Blm and feminists. O but we're just so ignorant and delusional right? It's the truth!!! Stop enabling and pandering to pieces of shit and call them out on their shit!

[@aisudhfabisdrh]

You're a fucking idiot. How and why would someone choose to be so ignorant of everything?

[@moriellymoproblems7842]

+Jesse Bochek. I agree. Just look at the string of comments in response to my post above, lol. I didn't mention BLM, yet it was immediately brought up by people who are in denial.

[@freida_wang]

I like that like 3 seconds after it got uploaded, there's already a dislike.... Like I just imagine somebody sitting there waiting every Sunday night ready to dislike the new video from this channel

[@connorshea9085]

Of course not. Just some guy named John Miller.

[@Alexisbuenoo]

Freida Wang it's the bad apples 🍎

[@colinmcclure2793]

Feel your pain

[@Poodlekisses]

Mardan Plays his fingers are too short, he can't reach the button fast enough

[@PHIre156]

Hahaha... Right.

[@Angry5704]

When I was a kid, I said I wanted to be a police officer because then I couldn't go to jail. (Keep in mind, I was 5 at the time.) My mom replied, "That's not how it works." But it is.

[@DTheCritical]

It is if you don't piss off other corrupt cops then you get offered up to internal affairs

[@HowToChangeName]

At least you can finally become street thug and never have to face any punishment

[@xenosbreed]

I still can't believe the Tamir Rice shooter, after knowing that he was a troubled officer, no one got charged. They literally drove straight up to the literal kid, and literally jumped out of the car and killed the kid before the car even came to a stop. It was a straight up drive by shooting and murder.

[@ianbattles7290]

Apparently, the courts have chosen to send the message that nothing that cop did was actually illegal, so every citizen has a green light to behave that way.

[@markhegedus1981]

The only problem with this video is that it's ALWAYS relevant.

[@daneblack1750]

Sadly that's the only problem with almost (if not all) the videos on this channel.

[@Goldenchildgt]

true

[@rcb5432]

It's not just that it's still relevant. It's even more relevant now, and it becomes more and more relevant every day.

[@Justin-tp1mx]

your last name is Hegedus, you don't know

[@markhegedus1981]

@@Justin-tp1mx i'm sorry....what?

[@Colaclysm]

Can we re-air this episode? I feel like we REEAAALLLLYYYYY need it...

[@nicoletheweirdo91421]

Cole Shepherd Yeah.

[@sstar202]

Or you know do a follow up story in relation to what's happening in Minnesota.

[@soccerruben1]

We need a part two, at least.

[@maumbu]

How unbelievably disgusting is it that this was 3 years ago and you can't even tell.

[@noneed4me2n7]

Police need to be community based and shouldn't be hired from outside of said community. Police should live where they work. When a community knows the person behind the badge and vice versa it helps curtail a lot of these problems.

[@0Yazz]

i've watched this video before and yet the part where the kids in school are writing "please don't shoot" on a piece of paper still makes me cry every time. This is not ok.

[@berkleypearl2363]

Honestly the biggest difference between this episode and the one that was released today is that John has become a lot more firm in his positions. There’s no “sometimes it’s ok for the police to shoot video” instead it’s “the police need to be rebuilt from the ground up or else nothing is going to change and innocent people are going to keep dying” and I love it

[@wolftitanreading5308]

Johns a moron the cops are fine other people need to stop breaking the damn law

[@Thumbsupurbum]

If only we could invent a device that uses electricity to incapacitate someone non-lethally.

[@pillowcaselaw]

Bad idea - if such a device ever were invented, it would likely start off being advertised as a non-lethal alternative to use of lethal force, but eventually just become a pain compliance tool which is rarely used as a force alternative. OH WAIT

[@TheGlassAddiction]

Fuck this is too real

[@Mortablunt]

It doesn't work as well as you'd think, actually...

[@idtyu]

how about tranquilizers gun ?

[@TheBoxOfCreativity]

yeah i dont understand why they need special training for a taser and not for a gun.

[@notori0uszig]

I can't believe I watched this for 16 minutes before I realized this was FOUR YEARS OLD. Holy shit nothings changed.

[@notori0uszig]

@Koski Co to be fair the media again portrayed her as a saint, she wasnt.. they can make up any story they want and 90% of the public is gonna believe it. I wasnt there and you werent there so the outrage over what happened is manufactured.

[@wyattp8479]

@@notori0uszig the police literally tried to get her ex boyfriend to implicate her on a crime she didn't commit so her killing could look more justified... there's plenty to hate about that case. The cops don't deserve to walk free. Evidence was also withheld from the grand jury

[@ishan8491]

What do you mean? Did the live audience not give it away?

[@randompastahandle]

Except hillery clinton.

[@cliffmode2000]

Could be sixty years old. Take money out of politics.

[@reuben2214]

“people instinctually trust the cops” *minority groups have left the chat*

[@hughjanos3992]

@@kamrynturner5232 unironically you are such a chad if you were a country you would share a border with cameroon 🇹🇩 chad gang 🇹🇩

[@peskypigeonx]

@@hughjanos3992 Nigeria for life 🇳🇬🇳🇬

[@JackAttack15]

I know white people with clean records who don't trust the police 😂

[@LasseVictorLarsen]

I was thinking the exact same sentence

[@peskypigeonx]

@@IronLion219 I really hope you are joking.

[@DONTCALLMETHAT]

"We want justice for_______ now!!" I'm leaving it blank because there's so many names that could go there and so many more since this aired 3 years ago

[@HelloQro]

Funny that the same people that say "it's just a few bad apples" also fear the "three poisoned skittles in a bowl", so paradoxical, almost like a zen riddle ...

[@standoughope]

Very true. Lets excuse the horrendously corrupt police department due to "a few bad apples" however lets as a culture and society reject all immigrants and refugees because even a "few poisoned skittles in a bowl" is enough reason to reject the entire shipment! Oliver's observation is spot on.

[@JamiManrem911]

Made even more so by the fact that the figure is closer to "one skittle in a swimming pool". It's a stupid analogy anyways, for a number of reasons, but that's another story.

[@neues3691]

You mean the 60% bad skilltes in a bowl (terrorist+rapist+murderes+sharia fans)

[@neues3691]

But the police in the USA has more problems than a few bad apples so you are right on that one

[@JamiManrem911]

+SilentHunterSan you do realize that the US has let in over 700,000 refugees from the Middle East, right? And that of those, less than 5 have even attempted to form a terrorist plot? These are people, not monsters. They're fleeing their country to get away from terrorism, not start it. Not to mention the multiple agencies and years of approval that's needed to even step foot on US soil.

[@glabella2331]

Not surprised in the slightest that John Oliver has already covered this issue.

[@kevink.7597]

e-Hire all the Russ-Thugu-KKKant hate-monger Pigs that can pass a polygraph. I call this the 'Floyd Standard'. Really easy... Pass-Fail. 1, have you ever assaulted a suspect that was already handcuffed? 2, have you ever lied about matters of law you investigated? 3, have you ever stolen anything from a crime scene or suspect? 4, have you ever turned a blind-eye to fellow officers' criminal actions? 5, have you ever planted evidence? 6, have you ever searched someone just so you could touch them? 7, have you ever withheld evidence? 8, have you ever abused your authority as a police officer? 9, have you ever perjured yourself? 10, Have you ever caused or took place in injuring a person under your authority?

[@kevink.7597]

🎤👇🙌

[@DeathProductions200]

@@kevink.7597 although I would like to see that happen, if you are aware of what a polygraph looks for and can control heartbeat (I can, so I know its possible) it is really flawed. Plus being hooked up to a polygraph can cause false triggers, we need a more concrete method, more intensive training and actual repercussions for breaking the law, even detaining someone illegally which is a very very minor case for a lot of things should result in being fired on the spot and banned from being an officer in any department in the country. Cops get away with so much so they have the above the law ego we all hate with a passion

[@kendrickfrank4410]

I can do you have a

[@ard1805]

I listened to rappers in the late eighties that covered this issue. He’s very late still.

[@SteveGrahamerNazi]

local prosecutors working with cops, and then they are supposed to prosecute them? this is a massive issue that needs to change

[@fxlcontalon4281]

Here 2020. John Oliver is truly a man ahead of the times. Wow, just WOW.

[@niapasumbal1157]

This episode SHOULD NOT be relevant almost 4 years later. But it is.

[@JeoshuaCollins]

It's been relevant since the Civil War.

[@MoniqueBMOart]

it was relevant 4 years before it aired and 4 years before that and before that and. . . . .

[@np8139]

This episode should have never been relevant, but it probably will be for many years to come. So many cops have committed heinous crimes during these protests, and a ton of them won't ever be prosecuted.

[@aidang7278]

It shouldn't be more relevant.

[@eustache_dauger]

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[@fatjonseatingadventures5429]

Jesus if you didn’t tell me it was 3 years old I’d think it was this weeks episode

[@melonlord1414]

You can tell, because he isn't sitting in his white void

[@Norex7777777]

turns out it is

[@annaartiges2226]

I watched it yesterday without realising it was from 3 years ago. I found out today while searching for the video and not finding it in the recent ones.

[@jaguaractive9377]

This week is even better

[@psychoaikko]

I swear, I thought it was for this week until I saw your comment....

[@fairy5668]

7:47 This is why people say most cops are corrupt - the good ones either get shunned, forced out, or quit

[@DABIGDAWG001]

“Just a few bad apples.” Damn, they were saying the exact same shit three years ago. They gotta change that playbook.

[@katiew4597]

The phrase, "A few bad apples" is only the beginning. It finishes, "ruins the bunch". So, when you're saying there are a few, you're actually saying that the entire company/system/department is ruined.

[@gtracked7557]

Im hev retarrd Haha. In this sense, I don’t think you could say that all black people are a bunch. Blacks do not have special black people responsibilities or any training on the proper way to be black people. And there certainly is no severe consequence to you for their failure to live up to these hypothetical yet nonexistent standards.

[@jaromchristensen5598]

Im hev retarrd no you are not, cuz that would be like saying all cops are bad cops after encountering a few bad apples. The argument here is not that “all cops are bad cops.” The argument is that the presence of a few bad cops is a problem for the police system in general, because it causes distrust in an office that we should be able to trust to uphold the law.

[@bueno_oneub]

@@jaromchristensen5598 Ah sorry, i misunderstood. I thought it was saying that all officers deserve to be labeled as bad just because of a few. I agree, it really does mess with the public's perception of a majority good work force.

[@chuckknipe1734]

P>p

[@HoneyBadger80886]

It really comes down to #PersonalChoice. We can choose to do the right thing - even if no one is watching. Or... #EndPoliceBrutality #BLM

[@Wintermute01001]

It's ironic that the phrase "Snitches get stitches" is associated with gangsters but the police have a very similar policy.

[@hypocritic2422]

Police Unions are the new modern mafias.

[@FriendlyGiant23]

a rat is a rat.

[@IAmHermaeusMora]

+Anton Ionov And a cat is a cat. What's your point?

[@franklindstrom35]

Just another foreign Clinton Foundation donor- pay for play.

[@FriendlyGiant23]

Hermaeus Mora Point is, it doesn't matter who says it, the police or the criminals, the saying applies either way.

[@UserInterface00]

John Oliver and Last Week Tonight’s 3yr old video is still relevant today. Nothing has changed in 3yrs. Hopefully things will have changed 3yrs from now.

[@thechadchampion]

When John Oliver said “that’s probably the only class where nobody will raise their hand and say “when are we ever going to use this?” “ it made me disappointed of the world. I swear that when the time is right I will do everything in my power to make the world a better place, even if it’s just to improve one person’s life a little bit. I have to do this, I just have to.

[@ALCRAN2010]

A classroom full of 1st graders has a combined experience of 30 years of school. That does not make each of them all as smart as a PhD.

[@firebladetenn6633]

ADMA sixty. Thirty students times two years. They’d be the best in their field!

[@esromasfaha2338]

we.. all kinda understood even b4 any explanation that ^^that statement is obvi bs

[@respectmyauthoritah1875]

No but it does make them as smart as any police department.

[@mikeferster7966]

yeah wow its so fucking scary when you say it like that, its not too far off when even a simple security guard can easily be given a gun in this country...… these cops go to school for 2/less years and barely have to train before they are given a gun and sent out as a public servant....

[@PHanomaly]

@@mikeferster7966 school for 2 years??😳🤣🤣 not in MY town!

[@rasmuslindquist9068]

In Denmark we have an organisation called Den uafhængige politiklagemyndighed, DUP, "The independent police complaint authority". They take over ALL cases where a police officer have fired a short. Doesn't matter if anyone was hit or not. They also take over ALL cases where a citizen has died in police custody. Likewise you can make a complaint if you have a bad experiance with the police. With this system none of your colleges will be in charge of the investigation. I think this is a great system. And yes its a paine in the ass for many police officers, but as a former police officer I can tell that I have never been afraid to do my job

[@igelmithut6320]

As a German speaking person I've just got a stroke while reading the name of your organisation. But thank you, now I'm going to check how it works here :)

[@mv8564]

In Russia we have same service. It's far from perfect, there is a lot of corruption BUT it works.

[@winniethepootietang6152]

That sounds like a good idea, which is why we will never have it here in the US

[@mrsbigmamayas3765]

@@winniethepootietang6152 Good one, and I just adore your name😁💚

[@totobiasos]

Sounds similar to the Norwegian system as well!

[@museandplay]

I love the amount of excellent research that goes into the show, as well as the fact that he makes me laugh out loud.

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

I swear cops sometimes seem more like gangsters than public servants

[@brandontherabboat4850]

This video shouldn’t be still relevant today... but here we are.

[@Tupiaz]

This video shouldn't have been relevant when it was made. It was already long overdue when it was made.

[@nishbrown]

That says a lot abut this corporate schlub making money off of it.

[@WednesdayMan]

it's too relevant, heck the whole ignoring 10 people in the corner statement didn't age, it got younger.

[@android12921]

All of LWT videos are about time bombs ticking or poisons slowly being ingested...relevant beyond time.

[@victoriaparkinson9323]

Replies for the algorithm. More need to see this. Keep going America, we love you. X🖤

[@seamusmchooligan9212]

Everyone who repeats the "A few bad apples" seems to forget the rest of the saying is " will spoil the whole barrel".

[@myquest666420]

EXACTLY

[@MonkeMane]

This is accurate both metaphorically and literally

[@operator8014]

Wow, mother of all double-edged sword. There's "a few bad apples" in the minority communities too.

[@myquest666420]

Operator 801 That’s what we call a false equivalency. See, a minority doesn’t choose their ethnicity. It isn’t a brotherhood that they were welcomed into and consented to join and are paid for it. There are bad apples everywhere, in every group. It happens. But I know for a fact that I’m not in danger of being caged by minorities when I choose to use drugs. There is no such thing as a good cop. Every single cop has agreed as a matter of employment to enforce unjust laws. Every cop who has ever been part of an arrest for a nonviolent action is a piece of shit for following those orders.

[@operator8014]

@@myquest666420 Well Mike, you are simultaneously lying through your stupid face, making nonsensical standards, and refusing to take responsibility for your actions. That's NOT a false equivalency, because I never said that the police force is identical to being a minority. I simply re-used a stupid phrase in a way that points out how stupid and non-applicable it is. The fact that not everyone is perfect does not depend on volunteer status or income. The only reliable statement you made: "it happens". Congratulations on not fearing legal backlash when breaking the law. That doesn't make them "good" or even "better" people. It just makes them "not police". You wouldn't need to fear the police doing anything if you just STOPPED BREAKING THE LAW. The only "unjust law" you will ever find, are laws that change depending on the individual. Just because crack is illegal and you disagree does not make it an "unjust law". You have no constitutional right to meth or heroin, those laws are completely just, because the majority of voters have made it so. Your feelings here do not matter at all. There are a great many valid laws beyond violent offenses, and it would behoove you to learn that. Child rape, for example. Burglary and embezelement for further examples. I highly suggest you correct your infantile world view of actions and consequences if you think that you should only ever be imprisoned for violent crimes. But yeah, clearly the police are to blame.

[@colintimp1372]

"There are bad apples in every job." True, but it's very unlikely that your car mechanic is going to shoot you during an oil change. Or that you'd lose your job because you spent 4 days in jail because a store cashier "didn't like your tone." These are people that can easily ruin and/or end people's lives. They should be held to (at least) a bit of a higher standard. Especially since we're paying for them.

[@thehighnoonsaloon7794]

And we still don't hold them accountable. But we WILL.

[@kandhu6066]

I'm so blessed I live in Canada, I talked to an officer once, and he told me the that in the twenty seven years he's been in the force, he's never had to use his gun.

[@xinic5]

Is Canada taking American refugees?

[@zoejaneZJ]

let's hope so...

[@mmuligan]

Kandhu you understand that's the majority of American Police officers as well.

[@puglife8041]

Your point is? The vast majority of American officers don't use their gun either. My Uncle, who was an officer for nearly forty years, once told me that of the 100+ officers he worked with as a police officer, less than ten had ever fired their gun.

[@_l8075]

We are blessed, but let us not rest on our laurels! There is a growing corruption here too. Make no mistake. It has old roots and is spreading. We have been better at hiding it as all of Canada has: repressed the Native American issues, has myopic and often unwarranted 'Canadian pride complex', fails to bother with investigations often and has a media that, for so many years, has been in favor of the law enforcement industry-- cloaking the truth of misconduct and bad apples. There is so much waste in the legal system, it has to be a a mess of corruption! We also, like other countries, automatically give a hero status to those in uniform. The social psychology is akin to us Canadians thinking there is nothing wrong with our collapsing healthcare. Or how 6-7 years ago there growing indicators of a housing crisis but we just ignored the signs as citizens and declared it all to be regular economy cycles, because that is what we were fed. Exposure of abuse of power by the 'justice system' and law enforcement is only just now starting to boil over and where a meager amount of the population is becoming aware of the stories. Mostly, for whatever reason, some of the media outlets have changed the tune and are covering corruption and allegations more so. It is not just a media sensationalism attention grab, there is truth of corruption that has long been shadowed by a choice of ignorance. I think Canada is awesome and I respect law enforcement (there are loads of good men and women who hold the right ethics); however, I caution any fellow Canadian to not let his/her guard down for the sake of Canadian pride.

[@horrovac]

In Austria, whenever police officers use their weapons an investigation automatically starts, by a randomly selected police department from a different state, no questions asked. Any shots fired WILL be investigated by a force not related to parties involved. Any use of force by the police, if suspected excessive, may be treated in the same way. Not to say that it fixes all problems and prevents all misconduct by the police, but at least here people aren't routinely shot dead for no reason whatsoever. Would this not be a good method, at least a start? Shots fired automatically starts investigation by a police unit from a randomly selected state, and their investigation is subject to thorough scrutiny by the court.

[@Beginstheman]

This where the FBI should be the ones investigating every single use of weapons by police officers. The FBI guys not related to LE agencies (at least in theory).

[@myfirst100]

how the heck do I delete this comment ?

[@AlaskanBearbaitCrochet]

That doesn't matter when officers are not being held accountable.

[@bonniehartlen7086]

horrovac I think you have a great idea down under!

[@horrovac]

Crikey, thanks mate!

[@dmac8949]

The biggest problem that has to be done away with is 'self investigation.' Police policing themselves is just a batshit crazy practice.

[@mangoshi1251]

Why does Last Week Tonight have the power of clairvoyance? This is such a systemic issue that the episode aged incredibly well.

[@ballisticfunk]

Couldn’t have gotten this video in my recommended at a better time

[@victoriaparkinson9323]

Replies for the algorithm. More need to see this. Keep going America, we love you. X🖤

[@19QKOO82]

This Baltimore Cop talks about his experience: kzbin.info/www/bejne/onnFY2Zjpdqpgqs This man talks about the same police force kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXi3gmONn5usf8km30s This news report shows it's not just one state: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWLUlZiJhLuphM0

[@ianbartram2118]

The KZbin algorithm is doing its thing... Finally for good

[@thegodofimagination]

@@ianbartram2118 now if only it would recommend my channel lol

[@ehoffart529]

The body cams are an excellent idea. Also make those camera recordings save on a hard drive so they can't be deleted.

[@modurhead]

load it to the cloud

[@raywei8472]

Cloud, is this suppose to be a joke?

[@YangSunWoo]

dropbox that shit.

[@Skelebon]

Well.... wasn't apples cloud thing hacked recently? Hard drive is better, at least that way to hack it you would need direct access to the thing, or network access to the thing its plugged into (but they wouldn't put it on a network, that'd be stupid).

[@YangSunWoo]

Skelebon You do realize you can put it on multiple cloud servers AND also keep it on hard drive? That's the point. Also, icloud wasn't hacked. People got their passwords leaked from other sites and they just happened to use the same password for icloud.

[@AJ-vm8ft]

Imagine an airline who claims that they only have a few pilots who decide to crash the plane into a mountain, the others are just fine.

[@apesindrapes7462]

Always impressed with how he manages to read the script. Halfway through every show I'd just meltdown and start shouting. Not even words. Just "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH".

[@tyfenrir]

In Canada as an officer if you even fire your gun once there is weeks of paperwork and cross examinations from inside AND outside the police department. Then the cop has to prove in court that he had absolutely no other option but to shoot his/her weapon. I've watched officers in Canada get torn apart in courtrooms and lose their jobs over less than a unjustified use of force. America is the problem, the way you train your police is the problem.

[@kendon0923]

That should be how it is everywhere. These people have control over our lives. They should be under the strictest scrutiny. I only have one caveat though, I hope they're paid well in Canada.

[@brianfoster4427]

this is why I want to live in Canada

[@tyfenrir]

Not paid too well in Canada but they get buy. Canada has their bad apples too but the way Police are trained and selected here they go through so many processes and testings that weed out the majority of them before they ever get a badge.

[@jonjonvids]

tyfenrir your police don't go to dangerous areas where murders happen in the dozens each week.

[@xRiderrr]

It's funny how people are still defending that argument. Also, that has nothing to do with what he stated.

[@aldoguzman97]

This is depressing.

[@brettmbaumgart]

They didn't even talk about the police who violently rape children and do not become registered sex offenders

[@zla360]

Reaching.....^^^^

[@ChillStreamsLive]

Very.

[@brettmbaumgart]

TheUltimateBeing01 Z la​ do your research. How many LEOs being arrested for sex crimes with children in a single month would it take to get your attention?

[@DuranmanX]

and this is just in America it's much worse in other countries

[@jb711956]

i swear man, sometimes you make me laugh so hard that i have decided to remind myself not to ever get high before i watch you again, you are a real card. thanks for the laughs from one of your fans.

[@capthappy8884]

Seeing the proliferation of comments to the effect of, "I couldn't tell this vid is _ years old..." is incredibly sad. Yet I am enormously greatful this is here and available to all of us!

[@CloudsGirl7]

When there are this many "bad apples", there's something wrong with the orchard.

[@superfly2449]

Blokka Nokka That’s “one bad banana will spoil the bunch”, I think.

[@marshwetland3808]

A bad apple is rotten and needs throwing out. We shouldn't keep shoving them down people's throats - that's poison and has led to many deaths.

[@mayainverse9429]

actually orchards produce significantly more bad apples than there are bad police proportional. police shootings that result in death is something like 0.01% of the entire police population. imagine scoring a 99.99% on a test and being told you failed.

[@PHanomaly]

Amen!!

[@PHanomaly]

@@mayainverse9429 oky, you are obviously one of the morons who lives in this town...

[@davidwade4291]

This video explains why people are rioting in Minneapolis this week. I imagine I’ll have to share the video 1 million times before any serious regulatory reforms take place.

[@florianadolf2256]

Please everybody share at least 1 m times. Knowledge doesn't hurt (although some people are astonishingly resilient against it...).

[@Krystalmyth]

Are you serious? 1 million? Try again.

[@davidwade4291]

@@Krystalmyth Here's a group actually making changes - www.nlg-npap.org/about-npap-justice/

[@IsaacClodfelter]

We can only hope people will learn if we say it loud and frequent enough.

[@BlueIsLeet]

It's unfortunate that people are using the tragedy to loot businesses though. There's multiple sides

[@mandymoore5774]

I love how not only does Oliver speak about very serious problems & issues but ALWAYS is looking for a resolution to the problems. And as a citizen I’m starting to think we should all be wearing body cameras.

[@NationalistsRuinAmerica]

That's actually a good idea.

[@wolftitanreading5308]

Or not breaking the law

[@olivesandgrapesareok9324]

“A few bad apples, Spoil the whole Batch”.

[@caffeineandspite716]

In light of everything thats going on, I'd love to see an update to this.

[@Smeginator]

We probably will this weekend

[@whatstheinternet5089]

This is it...

[@jeffhemmen7543]

This was the updated version.

[@NthMetalValorium]

0:00 update starts here.

[@jayw6034]

It'll be out Sunday at like 3am. I'm like 99% sure.

[@zaggity]

The fact that a hairdresser’s training is longer than police’s...

[@SteveGrahamerNazi]

A LOT of training and licensing is much longer than training someone to carry a gun, pepper spray, tear gas, batons, etc... than cops training.

[@joshhiroti]

Bad apples cut some ears off

[@AliceDiableaux]

It's so bizarre to me to find out your cops only have a few weeks of training before starting for real! Here in the Netherlands the lowest level of education you can follow to become an actual cop (so not an assistant) is 2.5 years in a combined theoretical-practical program.

[@riku3716]

@@AliceDiableaux In Finland it is three year degree, with some practical training, but I don't know details on that.

[@notplayboicactus5700]

AliceDiableaux yeah we suck lol

[@peterarcher1969]

My friend just got a warning for posting this on facebook it violates their standard

[@newquinn22]

The far right have a group that work to "fact-check" at facebook. If they don't agree with it, automatic fake news pile, with nothing to justify actually letting it be flagged

[@anaghookassian1953]

Nope, it's the whole orchard.

[@brinbart7999]

Seriously just stop now. Don't scroll any lower.

[@gfrgmcfluff9710]

YOU DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!! YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!!!

[@IsleenMilligan]

I did not heed. I wish I had. God forgive me.

[@ckjuggler]

I'm going to trust you on this one.

[@averageo2343]

I did anyway. Fight me you fucker.

[@cycleforwardtime]

Brin Bart okay, thanks, btw, what's the first amendment!

[@electricmagnetic]

...and this is why he got an Emmy!

[@nukal4338]

and it was well deserved

[@tichyja]

Because he is white? :D

[@tichyja]

I ment it as an joke 18:13 , but unfortunately you are propably right...

[@Redoer]

white privilege but he's still awesome as fuck

[@urulai]

Excuse me while I go fetch my God Killer.

[@levistephens7350]

This ep was so dope and real! John Oliver you are a beast and the girl at the end was so powerful and moving!!!

[@couldntgetagoodname]

The problem with dismissing it as a few bad apples, is that it omits the rest of the quote, a few bad apples *ruin the bunch*

[@YRGHY2010]

I stayed up till 2:30 am for this because I can't afford HBO..

[@Misty994]

ههههههه

[@unluckycat1621]

same

[@Arch-Arsonist]

Yousef Elraghy Same here.

[@Exe404error]

Same here fam

[@Bayville2421]

Yousef Elraghy West Coaster 11:30!!!

[@MegaFlorest]

I still can't believe no charges were brought to the murders who shot Rice.

[@kzinful]

F Howl + That video of that bastard stepping out from the patrol car and shooting him without warning will never be justified, all they needed was to command over the speaker. He was only Thirteen

[@dinghanxue704]

and those who killed eric garner.

[@christianevanherck6023]

and the cop that killed Tony Timpa as you can see in the footage of police body cams kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZSQdpKfbbZofZI

[@PurpleTurtle10_]

daang lotsof comments are sooo new now

[@shellydurunna]

It was a black kid. Are u really surprised.

[@waaaytoodrunkreviews5539]

This aged like fine wine ✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿

[@Herr2Cents]

There should be a federal law that has a separate entity investigate ALL police shootings in the US. Internal review doesn't do it and laws need to be in place.

[@gloomyblackfur399]

Wtf is a "dangerous loss of composure" during weapons training? That's so horrifying I can't even picture it. Crying? A temper tantrum? Shouting racial epithets at the paper targets?

[@ZakTheRipper18]

I was wondering the same.

[@ahbbuddha]

yes. all of the above..

[@thehellyousay]

Shooting the fucking sergeant in his fat fucking face 15 fucking times and experiencing a mind-shattering orgasm on the 14th shot... That's a pretty dangerous loss of composure, when you think about it.

[@JungleEd17]

I was imagining he was acting out movie scenes, but yeah, it could have been much worse then that.

[@Daveandian10]

@@ahbbuddha 😂😂😂😂😂

[@v.v365]

We shouldn’t have to teach kids how to interact with police like we teach kids how to act around wild animals

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

That is a honestly a terrible idea. One could argue THAT'S why we have a police violence problem in the first place as it sounds that everyone scared they'll treat their children that way. Just teach them to be respectful and not give them ANYTHING to use against them. Be an INNOCENT, not SKETCHED OUT or AGGRESSIVE. You lose you're ground when you behave like an ASSHOLE no matter what you're a victim of because it decreases you're perceived innocence. Educate them as well. My mom is mixed paralegal and shit scares the shit outta anybody when I call her in. She knows EXACTLY what laws they're breaking and how to get it taken care of. She also knows how to avoid self incrimination and their manipulation of public miseducation. Like how if they ask to come in you can say hell no and you DON'T have to talk to them.

[@v.v365]

Cat Elkins ...I was not writing about an idea I had... I was saying that it’s bad that we have to do that in the first place and that it’s bad that police don’t inherently have the public’s best interests in mind

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

Oh *no.* *That's* what was familiar about that clip. "It's more scared of you than you are of it" would not have been out-of-place.

[@blazeissilent8205]

@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty you suck. That's why we have a police problem? Nice job entirely ignoring the problem bc you read the original comment wrong

[@camille9803]

@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty Oh, Cat.

[@LasseVictorLarsen]

I Love the ending of that episode. Beautyful metaphores that realy sell the point.

[@punkaholia]

This union guy comes so close to understanding that when people are seen as the opposition they will become defiant. He almost had it.

[@DestroyaMusic]

I was forced to resign from my dream job as a jail officer for performing CPR on a dying inmate. It was really because it was an election year and word got our I was not going to vote for our current Sheriff. I have applied at 14 different agencies in 2 different states and still don’t work in law enforcement. I now have a lot of disdain and pure hatred for law enforcement officers and spend a majority of my time educating people of their rights and exposing officer misconduct at every chance. Hence my username.

[@brandonchapman4922]

Keep it up

[@jakeswierdfriend7204]

I’m so sorry, you sound like a great person, I’m sorry law enforcement failed you

[@DestroyaMusic]

Carlos Camacho thank you. I served my Sheriff with pride and loved everything about my job. Law enforcement is a very grimy business and no matter how big or small the agency, politics and the “good ole boy” system will always prevail. I will never forget the very first question of my first recorded interview for the Sheriff’s Office, they asked “Who do you know here?” I grew up in that county my whole life but didn’t personally know anyone that worked for there, so I was an oddball from the get go. When it came to them trying to fire me over the CPR incident, nobody came to back me even though I had stood up for everyone I worked with in that jail at one point or another. It has taken almost 4 years but the depression and rage are finally starting to subside and I now live across the country and make an okay living as a truck driver. But I’ll never stop telling the truth and exposing law enforcement for the frauds they are.

[@obliviousotterI]

What was the reason stated?

[@DestroyaMusic]

Gideon Bellamy I was a probationary employee (less than 12 months) and they said that since I didn’t check for a pulse before starting that I didn’t meet the requirements to work there. However, even the American Heart Association says that checking for a pulse is not a required first step. They say that pulses can be too faint to detect and vary from person to person. They say that if no breathing is detected and no response is given from the casualty, you can start performing chest compressions. But because of my status as a probationary employee, they can legally fire me for absolutely no reason and I have no rights and cannot consult with Human Resources to challenge any decision. I was broke and couldn’t afford an attorney but fortunately I was able to meet with the Sheriff and plead with him to allow me to resign.

[@Jinguuji-san]

You know there's a problem when upon seeing a police officer, you get scared/worried/anxious, instead of feeling safe/protected.

[@brianknickerbocker8518]

Great point

[@brianknickerbocker8518]

Sure it's called racism.

[@wolfrumble9168]

You'll only feel scared if you're doing something wrong.

[@OceansOfMotionStudios]

The Wolfrumble Tamir Rice must have been shaking in his boots?

[@fennxfox6241]

I get scared, but only because I’m worried that their might be a crime being committed nearby because my local police department has a really good relationship with the community, but I know that that is not the case in many cities around me

[@evolvetravel1]

Yes

[@Colonel2005]

I’m a truck driver and I am held at a very high level of accountability. Not only can my company be sued but I can as well. And I’m held at such a high level of accountability because I am considered a professional driver and it’s always assumed the truck driver is at fault because as a professional I should have been able to avoid it. So why are police not held to the same standards?

[@Mickeystwin33]

I love the fact that he didn't say anything about race, and yet that is all the comment section can talk about

[@Avrysatos]

It's about accountability, not about what color the skin is. Police aren't trained enough, they aren't held accountable for their actions, and part of it is they have military weapons because of this stupid ass "war on drugs." We should institute training for police on non-violent and de-escalation tactics, requiring them to have completed and passed this training by a certain day and requiring re-certification. We should have external forces for investigation of the police, partially made of retired police officers but never entirely. We need to stop tying their funding to arrests and tickets, as this creates an aggressive police force that needs the money so they work harder locking up innocent people. We need to de-commercialize the prisons, and stop the legal slavery in them. We should institute actual rehabilitation programs to the prisons. Programs such as raising animals, have shown remarkable progress in increasing empathy in people in prison, which is one of the major deterrants for violent repeat offenders. Decriminalizing drugs and introducing rehabilitation programs for drug addicts would help as well. Housing the homeless and getting them the mental help they need. crime goes down when people aren't broke as fuck. We need to fix the job market so that almost half of black men in several age groups aren't looking for work with no luck. There's a whole lot of accountability required..and a whole lot wrong.and while the result is a focus on minorities in frisking and scrutiny, as well as shootings, the causes are not related to skin color at all..

[@Faint366]

Well he sort of alluded to race a few times. All of his examples of unjustified killings were black people even though there are just as many white people killed by police every year. If he really wanted to make his point about police accountability as strong as he could then he would include white shootings in his argument. But that would ruin his police racism narrative so he ignored it and people are calling that out.

[@spoderman15]

well once, when he pointed at himself

[@brownbear5926]

At 18:12 he clearly brings up race(waving over his face), i.e implying him being white will mean the police will use less force.

[@TheAIKnowledgeHub]

For those who are wondering why people are relating this accountable video to race or Hillary (which is known to be anti cop), check out 18:12, 11:35, and 0:57. Oliver even made it about race 3 times in this video. Let alone with all the crap that has recently happen. If he wants to pull this crap, I wish he would make a Black Life Matter accountability video. Maybe start adding up all the damage, looted crap, and so on they cause, and ask who is paying for it and why are most of them getting away with this crap. And then he should ask why is this entire thing a black vs white matter, and why many (not all) black people try to make it a anti white problem (even going as far as saying all cop is white. Even ones that aren't white.). Why don't you hear about Asians having the same problem. And then he should ask why are more people feeling less safe before all this BLM crap.

[@Mcmatthew99]

"This is the only class students won't wonder, 'When are we going to use this?'" Stuck with me

[@rengsn4655]

McMatthew99 it’s heartbreaking

[@liawatson5789]

Even if they use it the police will still kill them.

[@tiphonydames9956]

same....and Ive had to use it more times than I can count

[@me_lefunnyfreak5366]

“Some bad apples” now let’s all finish it together, “ruins the bunch.”

[@revoltpunx]

4 years old and painfully relevant

[@Plisko1]

"Some jobs can't have bad apples" Chris Rock

[@SillyBillyMale]

What do you even mean by that?

[@luckquaous4960]

Some jobs, everybody gotta be good. Like, pilots!

[@miltonmarvinchua5400]

like a doctor or a surgeon. or cops.

[@JimmyBuffetLover7990]

@CrystalCat Go re-watch the show!

[@ursamagickmt672]

"There can't be good cops as long as there are bad cops."

[@AnonymousNow]

Boy, what a time for this to turn up in my feed.

[@chanderson2559]

THIS needs to be seen every day for every american, every morning. until further notice.

[@sarrsb]

We need part 2 of this episode!

[@dipperjc]

Sadly, we got one.

[@gdf40]

You know what you're supposed to do with bad apples? You get rid of them so they don't spoil the bunch. If a cop is shown to be a bad apple, you bust their ass and get them the fuck out so they don't spoil the department.

[@nfzeta128]

Exactly, however things have gotten to the point where 'protecting your own' is no longer a responsibility but a must, and that's regardless of whether they deserve it or not. You would think at least enough of Police would have pride in what their job represents to punish those who don't uphold it. However, what instead happens is that anyone who comes under the banner of Cop gets unconditional protection.

[@CoachDitka]

Unfortunately "Getting rid of the bad apples" isn't enough when there's so many of them. People say "There's only a few bad cops and evil liberal media is just trying to make all cops look bad!" but that really isn't the case. It's ridiculously easy to become a police officer in most parts of America, they're poorly trained and poorly educated. That's one large root of the problem. Yeah, we can get rid of bad apples all day long, but it does nothing when we keep filling the barrel up with more of them.

[@CoachDitka]

Unfortunately "Getting rid of the bad apples" isn't enough when there's so many of them. People say "There's only a few bad cops and evil liberal media is just trying to make all cops look bad!" but that really isn't the case. It's ridiculously easy to become a police officer in most parts of America, they're poorly trained and poorly educated. That's one large root of the problem. Yeah, we can get rid of bad apples all day long, but it does nothing when we keep filling the barrel up with more of them.

[@johnschwalb]

Are you an officer?

[@arewhyinoh8595]

What about getting rid of the bad apples in the community, oh nvm, the cops are already doing that. You know the ones on PCP that don't comply, or that reach for guns in their pockets while being arrested, or that have something that resembles a weapon. See when a cop says get your hands up, lay on the ground, they are doing that for their safety and yours and those around you. They don't want to shoot, they don't want stray bullets, they don't want collateral damage. One shot, center mass is GOOD training. They cannot read minds, so don't do shit unless they tell you to. I'm watching this show last night and just seeing how ignorant some of these people are, telling the police not to shoot, I don't have a weapon, etc. Morons, I'm sure that's going to go over as well as, "don't search my purse, I don't have any drugs." They cannot give people the benefit of the doubt, they cannot give the opportunity to cause harm somewhere else. If you comply it's the only way to assure these things.

[@jaykay8144]

Wow this is 3 years ago?! And absolutely nothing has changed and cops has even become less accountable? Nice to see how we are “advancing” 🙄

[@VinceRegan]

30 years 50 years

[@iluvdissheet]

You had to know this was gonna happen the second they elected trump

[@HollowGolem]

I'm old enough to remember Rodney King and the LA riots.

[@MasterMahad]

evolution, but backwards

[@PeterJavi]

@@HollowGolem And tell the whole audience please sir, has anything changed between then and now?

[@DemonicsInc]

14:53 His entire argument can be waved away by just shoutinv "BANG" at any point during it "A knife ca-" "BANG" "Fists ar-" "BANG BANG BANG" "..." "OH EXCUSE ME ARENT YOU GOING TO TRY AND USE A MEDEVIL SPEAR AS AN EXCUSE FOR WHY THIS MAN MURDERED A CHILD?"

[@anthonyd4771]

That guy at the end gave the worst possible example 😂😂 I'll ignore those 10 guys on a corner lol

[@joshdemay9130]

“I just can’t understand” (shoots unarmed homeless man) “why the public” (tases pregnant woman) “hates me so much” (40% domestic abuse rate) “just for doing my” (body slams elderly woman) “job”

[@greyhood2564]

"40% domestic abuse rate"? What is that one about?

[@m.h2247]

Grey Hood I don’t know about the exact number but there is a statistic that a bit less than half of police officers are domestically abusive (to their wives or children).

[@thepinkerton657]

That's incorrect. They tase the elderly woman, body slam the pregnant one

[@seanmitchell2908]

Damn Shaun king has raised an even bigger army

[@g00gleminus96]

(pepper sprays protesters) "protecting" (handcuffs six year old girl) "citizens" (plants drugs on suspect) "from criminals" (takes bribes from drug gangs).

[@vehlomoteur1488]

Wonder why these guys feel "It's just a few bad apples" is a good argument to defend police... but don't use the same thought process when it comes to Immigrants or muslims or ...

[@KhanNaga]

This... this right here.

[@DrinkyMcBeer]

They just apply the second half of that phrase to any minorities that don't fall in line

[@kevink.7597]

Re-Hire all the Russ-Thugu-KKKant hate-monger Pigs that can pass a polygraph. I call this the 'Floyd Standard'. Really easy... Pass-Fail. 1, have you ever assaulted a suspect that was already handcuffed? 2, have you ever lied about matters of law you investigated? 3, have you ever stolen anything from a crime scene or suspect? 4, have you ever turned a blind-eye to fellow officers' criminal actions? 5, have you ever planted evidence? 6, have you ever searched someone just so you could touch them? 7, have you ever withheld evidence? 8, have you ever abused your authority as a police officer? 9, have you ever perjured yourself? 10, Have you ever caused or took place in injuring a person under your authority?

[@normalgamergal]

@@kevink.7597 Polygraphs are actually really easy to cheat, so you could get a lot of people who have prepared getting through when they're monsters. At this point I just want to fire everyone. Even if they didn't do bad things, you know they knew about it, so that's accessory in about every other circumstance. Also, if you're nervous taking a polygraph, the results can be wildly inaccurate. Sadly, this has been used against innocent people in the past. Even the creator of the polygraph was upset when he saw what his invention was being used for.

[@bensonwr]

A few bad apples is no excuse its just a reason without reason.

[@niosmwfm698]

Time to replay this one each week until laws are changed to hold police accountable.

[@ellerylittlefieldhatesthis]

Reasons I haven't slept in a safe place for 5+ years...

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

"Theyre out to protect you". Meanwhile in reality, the supreme court sided with the police and said the police are not obligated to protect you. So now their motto of "protect and serve" is now. "Serve out punishment".

[@mayainverse9429]

you think the police are bad just wait till they get tired of this bullshit and all quit. people who live under the power of Drug cartels in Mexico and South America would fucking love to have our police.

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

Definitely contradictory, no matter the position.

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

@@mayainverse9429 it can be better regardless. We had one woman cop die because she DIDN'T shoot a black man stomping her to death while on pcp because of his race and we've had cops shoot people because of their race. They NEED to be at their BEST. And we're not there!

[@Pennsyltucky84]

@@mayainverse9429 I would love it if our police quit. Let's see a cartel run a country with 80 million guns.

[@kellym9190]

I just watched an Adam Ruins Everything on cops, & I was pretty shocked to find that out, too.

[@jontrout2010]

Mr. Oliver I think it's time for "Police Accountability 2: Racist Police State Boogaloo"

[@kevink.7597]

Re-Hire all the Russ-Thugu-KKKant hate-monger Pigs that can pass a polygraph. I call this the 'Floyd Standard'. Really easy... Pass-Fail. 1, have you ever assaulted a suspect that was already handcuffed? 2, have you ever lied about matters of law you investigated? 3, have you ever stolen anything from a crime scene or suspect? 4, have you ever turned a blind-eye to fellow officers' criminal actions? 5, have you ever planted evidence? 6, have you ever searched someone just so you could touch them? 7, have you ever withheld evidence? 8, have you ever abused your authority as a police officer? 9, have you ever perjured yourself? 10, Have you ever caused or took place in injuring a person under your authority?

[@NoOneSpecific365]

@@kevink.7597 I agree, but unfortunately polygraph tests are notoriously unreliable, which John covered in the Forensic Evidence episode. And the system can't be self-reporting because nothing change. But I like the idea/sentiment.

[@newyorkkitty8307]

been pretty pumped to see this wks episode. pumped in all the wrong ways but.

[@VMxSmurf]

Just make sure the table he sits at is nailed down to the floor in case he gets angry during the episode and tries to flip it over

[@mikedatwonguy]

@Grailsarvas Where's your proof? You're one of those ignorant ideologist trying to pass off opinions/rumors as facts? It's hilarious that you just posted this considering current events. Do the world a favor and don't procreate :)

[@bryannaleek6441]

PART 2 PLEASE!!

[@GDBOYFilms]

I SERIOUSLY THOUGHT THIS WAS A NEW EPISODE UNTIL THE VERY END! What on earth. God help this country.

[@heyhorinshi]

Well is 2020 and 3 years later this did not age at all... it may even have gotten younger somehow

[@sv32099]

It somehow benjamin buttoned itself

[@maythesciencebewithyou]

@@sv32099 They just use lots of Botox

[@gigabic7487]

We need cops for cops, like copception. These copception cops will only be able to arrest normal cops, but to prevent a "Who watches the watchmen?" scenario, the copception cops can also be arrested by normal cops. Perfect system

[@ComanderSazabi2000]

It actually the way alot of countries use to keep cops accountable

[@cjua2803]

wtf is copception?

[@zacklight5622]

Cop-inception. like the movie about dreams within dreams.

[@gregorylumban-gaol3889]

I need to know what shit you're smoking. I want to try it out.

[@roguishpaladin]

To an extent, this is something that the DoJ does.

[@tokoda3020]

It not the apples that are bad, it’s the whole tree that rotten, it just happens to good apples sometimes.

[@konraadse9923]

"Throwing a fit and threatening not to do your job because of public criticism is pretty childish" Gee, you don't say

[@carolyntalbot947]

Here we are again in 2020, and people wonder why rage is boiling over this time.

[@Scorpion122178]

Burn it all to the floor and then burn the ashes to the floor.

[@nickgiesen5867]

I live near Minneapolis, fuck their 3rd precinct

[@kevink.7597]

e-Hire all the Russ-Thugu-KKKant hate-monger Pigs that can pass a polygraph. I call this the 'Floyd Standard'. Really easy... Pass-Fail. 1, have you ever assaulted a suspect that was already handcuffed? 2, have you ever lied about matters of law you investigated? 3, have you ever stolen anything from a crime scene or suspect? 4, have you ever turned a blind-eye to fellow officers' criminal actions? 5, have you ever planted evidence? 6, have you ever searched someone just so you could touch them? 7, have you ever withheld evidence? 8, have you ever abused your authority as a police officer? 9, have you ever perjured yourself? 10, Have you ever caused or took place in injuring a person under your authority?

[@Gadgetsjon]

Two things: - Becoming a professional pastry chef or baker takes more training than police. - A few "bad apples" who occasionally killed people on the job while working for an airline would not be tolerated.

[@ursamagickmt672]

Beauty School: 1600 hours.

[@dc-bueno.2262]

The airline thing is a totally different breed of jobs it makes no sense to apply it to police.

[@Gadgetsjon]

@@dc-bueno.2262 It makes "no sense" to compare it? Please extrapolate and explain.

[@dc-bueno.2262]

Airline is a totally different breed of work. Policing usually deals with people who would ambush and kill them if they sit in one spot. And in policing you are eventually going to shoot someone if they shoot you.

[@Gadgetsjon]

@@dc-bueno.2262 Im not sure what your point is then. Police should be held to a higher standard is my point. Are you saying they SHOULDN'T be?

[@gamingscientist7445]

It still rings true. In four years, we have not progressed from this point yet. I'm heartbroken at the state of my country.

[@shockman8014]

Every cop that says there are some bad apples adds one to the number.

[@veizour]

"How is that possible?" For the same reason I gave my commanding officer when he asked why I didn't go to him with the sexual harassment and general harassment claims from my fellow soldiers before bringing a congressional and tribunal down on the company: "I knew it would have been swept under the rug" (nevermind the fact that I knew I would have been persecuted) The bad commanders are the reason the good cops can't fight the bad cops. The lives and safety of the good soldiers, good cops, good people, become in contention due to the bad actors.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

Yeah and the same goes for society, If people would do what they are supposed to in life and live a life under some kind of honor there wouldn't be a need for an officer to have to treat everyone as a criminal. The only difference is their aren't riots claiming society currently sucks, instead you get people like the Slackers that can help kill 250k worth of people on American soil and he can BUY destruction of evidence of his guilt and legally buy off justice in other states. How do you uphold anything when people running the system are the root of the problem because as a whole no one abides by it?

[@user-fh6sm4sb4x]

@@nocturnal101ravenous6 I like how you said "Live by honor". I agree. People definitely live less and less by a social code that is acceptable for everyone.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

@@user-fh6sm4sb4x Lets be honest, people these days are a bunch of sociopaths, they really only care what they can get and are obsessed with doing as little as possible for the most they can get. If people actually cared situations like this would never occur, but the high road isn't worth taking when you can watch it happen and then seek brownie points later in protest. The policeman should never have been that violent, The Criminal should never have been High on drugs, drunk, and breaking the law. 2 Wrongs don't make a right, but you are either protesting African Americans being suppressed or you are protesting police brutality, pick 1 or the other because the first is complete racist BS spread by the media and ill-educated people with the wrong facts, Does it happen? yes, is it the majority of the situations happening...no it doesn't in fact more white people die per year in the US due to police, does it matter they are white, not really except to prove these people are selfish racist pigs. People are so full of their own BS to the point they lost all honor and they have no moral or ethical compass, they claim to, but the reality is always quite the opposite.

[@empirestate8791]

8:51 So if cops' records should be destroyed after they were disciplined, then why do civilians' criminal records stay forever, even if they served their time? There shouldn't be a double standard! If you purge cop's disciplinary record, do the same to civilians who've served their time and paid their dues!

[@BornAgainRockstar]

or make cops records permanent, and accountable to their future plans...

[@WeaponizedStrumpet]

I haven't given this exact topic a whole lot of thought but wouldn't it be nice to have some law that after a certain amount of time (Like a prison sentence) and possibly depending on the severity or nature of the crime, people couldn't be compelled to disclose past criminal history on job applications? Treat it kinda the same as medical records?

[@georgebrantley776]

@@WeaponizedStrumpet I agree. Once a punishment has been served, the tab has been cleared. It's a clean slate thereafter. Records should only be kept for the courts to know if someone is a repeat offender, or for security clearances. For the everyday job, revealing criminal history should not be compulsory. Repeat offenders should lose that privilege though.

[@georgebrantley776]

@Lesbian Amazon Sister I said that records should be kept for court use to check for repeat offenders. That means if you're applying for a job, then a typical background check wouldn't show the felony. That way the past crime doesn't follow you around forever. This follows a "second chance" mentality. If the person is convicted of another crime, the judicial dept would still know. The record is only cleared from any publically accessible records, not destroyed completely. As for the crime you mentioned as being too severe to allow a second chance, then sure. Maybe. Depends what the crime is. But if the perosn was shoplifting or doing drugs or whatever, that charge shouldnt haunt them for the rest of their lives if they turn their lives around and start fresh.

[@michaelseidenberg2323]

So if we're going to use a few bad apples analogy I would guess not only does it apply to the police but it also applies to the rioters amongst the peaceful protesters

[@kirielvids]

Why do they seem to forget that the rest of the saying "bad apple" is "spoils the entire barrel". That's why we say things like ACAB.