Police Coerce Man to Confess to a Crime That Never Happened

[@briangarrow448]

900K is a small penalty for what these cops did to that poor guy. The level of evil is staggering.

[@mattgayda2840]

The taxpayers are the ones harmed, until these penalties come out of their own pockets and the union pension fund this will continue and get worse. Cops need required personal liability insurance, bad cops get priced out of the market like bad doctors

[@almosthuman4457]

a penalty paid by tax payers...

[@mattgayda2840]

Until QI is stripped and they have to pay settlements from their own pockets this will get worse. Cops need $1M mandated personal liability insurance, bad cops get priced out

[@margyrowland]

Of course the taxpayers pay the penalty, not the dirty cops

[@ElmshornBoy]

Torture is by Geneva Convention forbidden ... so for me 900K is really a small penalty

[@CrainialCommando]

This is what happens when you make it legal for cops to LIE.

[@ianbattles7290]

I don't see how anyone can trust ANYTHING a cop says *if cops are legally allowed to lie to the public.*

[@matthewhowe3727]

Exactly.

[@lgDukeCity5018]

And also lie on the stand under oath without repercussion.

[@Foolish188]

Lying doesn't bother me. But I had a dog that I loved more than anyone in my family. Threatening the dog should put the police in prison.

[@admthrawnuru]

​@Foolish188 I agree that threatening a man or his loved one in any capacity like that ought to be illegal (and arguably is tough they'd never get prosecute for it), but how can lying that they found your missing father's dead body not bother you? That's horrible.

[@Artist_Kevin]

Every case this department has touched the last 25 years needs to be looked at

[@r.1599]

Excellent point.

[@marhawkman303]

yeah this is corrupt cop behavior that should not be tolerated.

[@papat7435]

that is logistically impossible.

[@sampleowner6677]

Working as a cop is the only job where you can cost your employer almost a million dollars and never lose your job. Incredible.

[@ObIitus]

Don't forget DEI managers.

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@lorehammer40k4]

@@ObIitus How do you identify someone as a DEI hire? Like, what are the criteria? Is it any minority who is bad at their job or just any employed minority at all? Is it possible for a minority to have a job without being a DEI hire?

[@BenEthridge]

​@@jpnewman1688; As Mark Twain said, If voting really mattered they'd outlaw it

[@darnells.1558]

That's because their employer is not a business, it's the government.

[@brent5832]

The police are not your friend.

[@knghtbrd]

Police are nobody's friend. Ever.

[@davemckee4907]

Very true.

[@zacharyseay3089]

@@knghtbrdwell often they are each others friend, but that’s how gangs work. Abolish qualified immunity!

[@Cheepchipsable]

If they perceive you as a victim you're generally OK.

[@Malphorus]

@@Cheepchipsable Until they 'smell' something.

[@lunatik9696]

END qualified immunity. Their behavior is EVIL !

[@98f5]

They threatened to kill his dog? Then told him they did?!?!?! What the hell is wrong with these people

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

I fear how these sadistic abusers might treat their families behind closed doors

[@supramanx1997]

They qualified to be police. This gets their rocks off

[@edwardlangdon9256]

One of these days they will do this to the wrong person.

[@dansmith3507]

Evil knows no bounds

[@fix0the0spade]

@@edwardlangdon9256 No they won't, they ARE the wrong person and they've got a badge to prove it.

[@nolongeramused8135]

Police should not be allowed to "interview" anyone without a lawyer present.

[@KLH916]

A lawyer Should be required for everyone, especially if police can legally lie to you.

[@tournamentmaster2000]

They should also not be able to lie to obtain a confession.

[@DaveBigDawg]

You should never answer questions without a lawyer

[@freedomspromise8519]

They are already not allowed to question anyone without an attorney IF the person asks for an attorney.

[@DaveBigDawg]

@@freedomspromise8519 of course But this person probably never asked for one They must stop asking questions as soon as someone requests a lawyer

[@keith2772]

The "let the courts sort it out" mentality of police needs to stop. So you're willing to bankrupt a person and potentially have them falsely imprisoned because you're too lazy to do your job?

[@marhawkman303]

Also... it clogs the court system to send things in front of a judge for trivial reasons.

[@jplayzow]

@@marhawkman303 It stalls out the actual needed trials for "Well he *looked* suspicious" when the "suspicious" behavior was breathing.

[@stevetopop2028]

Not to mention they made the man suicidal.

[@heh2k]

The state should pay all costs and back pay (if any) when someone is found not guilty.

[@marhawkman303]

@@heh2k This is true. Someone' livelihood can get ruined due to spurious charges.

[@wumpscutx1]

Those detectives should be charged with attempted murder. 100% they tried to take this innocent man's life away.

[@drewschumann1]

Old school law made false accusers liable to the risk they put the accused in

[@dannylgriffin]

Good point.

[@johnshaddick6858]

@@drewschumann1 Cops like these, need a third eye.

[@angelachouinard4581]

At the very least kidnapping or unlawful detention

[@alexmonroe7092]

They did destroy it.

[@koolkevin2357]

The POS Detectives should have to sell their houses, retirement, and cars, to pay this settlement, NOT the taxpayers.

[@Vazzini42]

At minimum, all their past and future cases are ALL suspect.

[@SakuraNyan]

@@Vazzini42 Indeed, like everyone who was convicted or pleaded out should demand new trials, and introduce what the cops did to that guy -- because this is *at best* endemic in that department, plausibly systemic.

[@jamesonmiller8283]

Police officers should have to carry malpractice insurance. If there is a private corporation having to pay up you can bet your ass they are going to impose mandatory training requirements, tracking of police behavior, jacking up rates for departments which have systemic issues, and eventually just unwilling to insure certain officers.

[@stephjezo6470]

They also should have to be heavily bonded because they will never have enough assets to cover a lawsuit loss. There also needs to be a national registry for cops that can be subpoenaed for court cases to see if they have done it before.

[@robertaylor9218]

They should be behind bars.

[@peggyh8937]

After they found his dad, they still obtained a search warrant to search his home for evidence of assault of an "unknown victim". When he was released from the psych hold, he tracked his dog's implanted chip to the Riverside County Animal Services and retrieved his dog. He wasn't paid enough IMO.

[@ken2tou]

Once they knew his father was alive and well, they became guilty of false imprisonment! Disgusting!

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

They must have been getting paid overtime.

[@jesarablack1661]

They then got a warrant to search his home, After knowing his father was alive and safe, based on "unknown victims".

[@windywednesday4166]

Wow, this case. What is wrong with these people! 💔 😢

[@alicekramden8640]

True, except by the time they learned he was alive, they had already turned him over to a mental hospital and figured they’d just let him “stew” for a while.

[@alicekramden8640]

@@jesarablack1661What? Is this for real? WHO was the judge that issued that warrant? This is disturbing on so many levels. Unknown victims? We couldn’t find the father’s body but maybe he killed somebody else? None of us are safe anymore, not even in our own homes when you have judges that issue warrants so cavalierly.

[@stevec3526]

These cops should be fired and barred from police work.

[@RedMatthew]

They belong in prison this was torture plain and simple

[@margarethorrall8621]

Torture is illegal and what they did was undeniably torture. They belong in prison.

[@zang9147]

One retired; most likely with a full pension. With his free time, he will then likely turn his attention to his neighbors.

[@danielboone8435]

We will never even know their names.

[@LdyVder]

@@zang9147 Sorta how the Westboro Church started protesting the LGBTQ+ community in Topeka, KS. Fred Phelps was always an angry man. Took out his anger on clients and co-workers until he was disbarred for it in Kansas. Then he took his wrath to the LGBTQ+ community.

[@kenchorney2724]

Those cops deserve 25 years in prison.

[@Tufhhuyy]

"25 years" is a weird way of spelling "life"

[@AbNomal621]

Well, assuming the officers are placed in general population and what they did is announced. Otherwise life.

[@vyvyanbasterd4133]

AND??? Were the COPS themselves held accountable? No..... so NOTHING will change.

[@ianbattles7290]

These cops did all of this knowing that they were being recorded, *proving that they don't fear any consequences for this behavior.*

[@Srode1999]

These cops are probably being put up on a pedestal for their effectiveness.

[@allenk946]

Ya I can see the sick bastards going around the detective office we got an innocent man to confess to something he didn’t do or for a crime that never even happened. Man you guys are master interrogators

[@jpnewman1688]

Yup.. But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@lylecoglianese1645]

⁠@@Srode1999, given promotions with well deserved increases in wages and benefits. Accolades on the local TV stations. Glowing articles in the local newspapers. Certificates of Appreciation from the City! Given a parade in their honor, attended by the entire Police Force (on overtime) and all City employees!! A grand time was celebrated by all!!! 🤗 😵‍💫 😳 🤪 😜 It's the American Way!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[@soonerboomer8588]

got to get rid of qualified immunity across the board. 900k is not enough and should not be paid out by the taxpayer, but by those involved

[@Vincent_Beers]

What's worse is it's already been shown qualified immunity isn't an actual law. It was a courtesy invented by a judge's opinion and the other courts started following it as procedure. The DA's either don't press charges or the judges drop the charges. There's actually no law on the books that tells them to act that way. It's just corrupt people protecting each other. Judges aren't supposed to invent laws, that's for Congress and then the judges are to follow or interpret those laws if they aren't clear. Qualified immunity was invented at the judicial level and would be illegal if anyone was actually able to appeal it, but the judges just ignore the appeals and no one in power above them does anything about it. There's literally no law to over turn, because it was never a law to begin with. Just a broad range of corruption protecting themselves.

[@CeanStrauss]

Even when qualified immunity is denied for LEO's, they still receive indemnity. Meaning individual LEO's never pay a cent for lawsuits. Not lawyer fees, not court costs, not judgements, nothing. Tax payers are always on the hook while government officials have practically zero consequences or accountability. Aboloshing QI isn't a silver bullet, the "justice" system is just completely corrupt and broken.

[@kpw84u2]

The Supreme Court ruled cops can lie with no legal recourse and it has nothing to do with qualified immunity.

[@myonen4402]

​@@CeanStraussI hate to say this, but you're wrong in this case if you can break qualified immunity the individual pigs can't get immunity, however if the city agrees to pay the bill then they don't have to pay.

[@karlrovey]

​@CeanStrauss And then, when they aren't indemnified, they don't have the funds to pay the judgment anyway.

[@sharistrazz3313]

Cops should NOT BE ALLOWED TO TORTURE ANYONE LIKE THIS. PERIOD!!

[@NogardCodesmith]

99.9% of cops give the rest a bad name.

[@nabflyer]

Cops: "We will kill your dog if you don't confess" City: "That's fine, y'all can still be detectives, we will just pay a $900,000 out of the public pocket and this will all go away"

[@jpnewman1688]

Yup.. Let's keep VOTING then BEG for CHANGE.. 😂😂😂

[@jool5941]

They didn’t bother to do any investigation at all. They didn’t even bother to look for the missing person.

[@duran9664]

🚩FACT🚩This is typical practice in all authoritarian regimes 🤦‍♀️ Detectives there get more money (promotions) when they close cases so fast. The system itself encourages closing cases asap even by scapegoating innocent people in order to appear as if the regime can catch criminals early (of course, without much care about the truth)🤏

[@djangoapple8230]

It's like they did it for laughs and kicks. It makes me wonder if law enforcement paid any attention in history class and the lessons on tyrannical governments. If they did pay attention do they somehow conclude the lessons were pro tyrannical governments

[@Art-mo5bt]

Typical for mindless demon possessed zombies. I am aware that this phenomenon has been highly marketed after the fact. This is training gone very very wrong and not apart of public service whatsoever. 😨

[@BrankoRNtheotherBranko]

That would be doing your job. You don't expect that? You have to think how many other investigations where legit with these officers. How many other people they set up.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

They know. Look at the NKVD blue stripe. Look who trains and indoctrinates them. Communism.

[@GENERIC_CHANNEL_HANDLE]

I'm nuerodivergent. I don't display emotions in the same way an allistic person would _and_ I have an extremely difficult time interpreting social cues. If I was brought in for some routine questioning, I now have to worry about making someone suspicious because I act "weird" and "detached", leading to something insane like this. Qualified Immunity is a cancer eating at our rights.

[@pyrotech7210]

Always demand a lawyer. Even better, get one on retainer then ask for him or her by name.

[@meatonn]

Especially under your circumstances, remember this phrase: "I want my lawyer." Once you say that, all questioning must stop until you have a lawyer present. Requesting a lawyer might itself look suspicious to the police (he must be guilty if he wants a lawyer) at least from that point forward, you have an advocate with you l.

[@backpackpepelon3867]

​@@meatonnthe moment the cops approach you, they already set on making you guilty. It doesn't matter if asking that make you looks suspicious, for the cops, you are already guilty anyway.

[@innovationsanonymous8841]

Don't forget about the "double empathy" problem. Most NTs are effectively sociopaths because they dk about it. And it's exacerbated by the over representation of actual dark triad types in positions of power

[@shweyashweya]

Just ask for a lawyer IMMEDIATELY and do NOT talk any further!!

[@jaydee_0079]

These settlements should NOT be paid out of Taxpayer Funds, it should come out of the Officers Pension funds.

[@gregkrueger331]

And the department’s budget.

[@tom4ivo]

Or something like that that would encourage other officers to restrain loose cannons like this.

[@MrCodykuczenski]

I agree in principle but at the same time the detectives were doing the cities work, however horrific it was. It was on the supervisor to watch the detectives, the govt to watch the supervisor and the tax payers to watch the council. Not one check in place after 17 hours? Kinda is the cities fault to let two detectives have the ability to do this.

[@christasimon9716]

Do you think $900,000 dollars is a lot of money, compared to the overall operating budget of the Fontana P.D.?

[@rapid13]

@@MrCodykuczenskiNope. This is 100% on the detectives. “I was just following orders” stopped being an excuse during Nuremberg.

[@charlesellis792]

Why i no longer support capitol punishment. Too many crooked cops , DA's , and judges.

[@larryulrich9110]

Ditto, among other reasons.

[@MCNarret]

Permanent punishments better be right, otherwise the law will forever be wrong.

[@howlinwulf]

​@@MCNarretlaws are fine we gotta have law. Police and sheriffs are rhe problems.

[@duran9664]

🚩FACT🚩This is typical practice in all authoritarian regimes 🤦‍♀️ Detectives there get more money (promotions) when they close cases so fast. The system itself encourages closing cases asap even by scapegoating innocent people in order to appear as if the regime can catch criminals early (of course, without much care about the truth)🤏

[@SayAhh]

Who knows how many ppl on death row and in Gitmo are 100% innocent.

[@robertaylor9218]

How the hell are these officers not facing criminal charges.

[@AeroGuy07]

Any cops watching, this is why we have contempt for you.

[@nebulousvoid]

Cops would never watch this because it gives accurate legal information.

[@bustinnutsinslutsbutts]

to any cops seeing this, ur the enemy of the people

[@Playlist-yz8de]

This is what drives me nuts, if they would police their own the population would support them 10x over current levels. But protecting these animals just leads to no trust in the “system.”

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@gregkrueger331]

@@Playlist-yz8deas a veteran i used to be a big supporter of law enforcement but with as many videos Ive seen over the last few years, of cops blatantly violating people’s rights with contempt, any respect or admiration i had is gone .

[@pokerandphilosophy8328]

The police likely didn't bother to inform him that his father was alive because they were still debating the possibility of charging him with criminal obstruction of justice for falsely confessing to a crime that didn't occur.

[@fetchstixRHD]

Wouldn't surprise me...

[@1014p]

Well that's one way to describe the idea. Can't get you on an actual crime. We will just have to charge for something else instead.

[@SanchoSanto]

Something similar happened to a fellow who was accused of killing a little girl. They couldn't get him on the murder so they got him for perjury. He spent 2 years in prison. When they found the real killer, cops tried everything to get the killer to implicate the man, but even the killer had more integrity than the cops. He refused. This is why you never ever talk to cops.

[@smalltime0]

I think we can all agree that the man was guilty of something. What that something is, is really the question. I think we need the dog to snitch on him before continuing.

[@stephjezo6470]

This is EXACTLY why if arrested you ask for a lawyer then tell them you intend to exercise your 5th Amendment, shut up and nap if you have to. Repeat you want a lawyer if they persist. NEVER believe them.

[@juliao1255]

And teach that to your children, too!

[@stan4d1969]

The well established practice of police legally lying to suspects to gain a confession is insane in itself.

[@Praisethesunson]

Anything to get the "solved" crime rate above 50%. Lying to the public has gotten police to solve serious crimes up to a whopping. 52%

[@Zundfolge]

Cops need their "right to lie" revoked. If I lie to a cop that's a crime, as such if a cop lies to me that too should be a crime. Police officers should be considered "under oath" at all times while on duty.

[@wesleyhoward5599]

It's not a right. It's just not illegal,

[@axt2]

it's not a crime to lie to a cop

[@Srode1999]

​@@axt2it often is.

[@onba7726]

I disagree. I've seen little lies have helped in interigations vids, but it should be limited. Besides, I don't think lying is the issue here. Isn't the police not bothering to do their job and denying a guy his medication.

[@umbrakinesis2011]

​@@onba7726 Even if it works, in the same situation with an innocent person they are going to think the police have evidence that they do not, which will inevitably gaslight the subject into thinking that they have lost their grip on reality. Also, knowing that they are allowed to lie, even a little means that you Can Not trust them in an interview whether you're innocent or not. They could still gather evidence and ask leading questions that could reveal knowledge of the crime but even this can be abused if they indirectly give out the information they want from you, so layers should be mandatory.

[@mitchjr77]

*“THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!!”* _~Captain Jean-Luc Picard_

[@valarianne2284]

Gotta love that particular episode of STNG - and Jean Luc's determination to keep his sh*t together. I don't think I'd be able to stand such torture. I'd have folded pretty fast!

[@mitchjr77]

@@valarianne2284 IKR! I would not able to withstand stand Torture either! That’s why I had to walk away from Star Trek completely after the Torture of what is Modern Trek. 😢 It’s hard to look back and realize that we will never have Great Thought Provoking Stories and Moral Lessons like in“Chain of Command”, “The Drum Head”, or even “Darmok” again…. at least not anywhere in the near future…😫 *_”Shaka, when the walls fell.”_* 😣

[@SandroWalach]

@@mitchjr77 Temba, his arms wide.🫂

[@kevinwestrom4775]

Shaka, when the walls fell.

[@CD-vb9fi]

@@valarianne2284 I would have folded the first time he told me to say there were 5 lights. People have this funny thing with "pride". Pride is worthless and holds no value at all. It only leads to destruction. I know there are 4 lights but if saying 5 stops the torture... I am going to choose to stop the torture. Now... to get me to confess to a crime I did not commit... that one is a little bit different. If I was falsely accused of speeding I would just pay the fine and go. But for murder... I would fight it. Which brings us to another problem in the American "legal" system... prosecutors threatening people with years of jail time and overzealous prosecution if they don't do quick and simple plea bargains giving DA's easy wins. Corruption is just a casual word to describe the US legal system... it is rotten to the core evil now!

[@humpteedumptee8629]

The fact they brought in the dog is movie villain level.

[@july8xx]

I think the Federal Government should look at this as a civil rights crime and prosecute these detectives as criminals.

[@MattHudsonAtx]

The same federal government that granted them qualified immunity?

[@jpnewman1688]

So you want gangsters to police themselves??? 😂😂😂 I bet you VOTED a lot.. 😂😂😂

[@MattHudsonAtx]

@@jpnewman1688 go back to Russia, Vlad

[@ronnieitaquab1008]

They always say their dog hit on something and never have to prove that.They all claim to be dog whisperers

[@troystallard6895]

This is honestly one of the most horrific stories I've ever heard. And the fact that the cops involved are still employed is inexcusable.

[@robertyunegling4270]

I'm a US Army vet if I did that in the Army I'd be charged with a war crime

[@foxymetroid]

That's because politicians didn't have to worry about looking "soft on crime" when they made the military follow those rules. Pass laws to afford American citizens those same protections and those politicians would be voted out in a heartbeat.

[@Snargfargle]

I enlisted in the 70s. One of the first classes we had in Basic was on what constitutes following a lawful order and what constitutes a war crime. I'm pretty sure that this class was mandated in light of a well-known massacre that had recently occurred. Unfortunately, the US government now uses loopholes in the law to routinely torture federal detainees. The police do this too, only on a somewhat lesser scale. "Pain compliance" walks a fine line between a legitimate policing technique and torture. You can inflict mental anguish as well as physical pain.

[@gtbarsi1103]

I'd like to know why the DA is not pressing charges against the officers involved. Just because the victim accepted a settlement for his civil case does not preclude criminal charges.

[@Alverant]

DA has to work with cops. If these cops are willing to do that to an average citizen, think about what they'd do to someone who defied them.

[@Rick-ih7wp]

The cops and the DA are in the same satanic cult.

[@ancavalcanti92]

DAs love cops who get confessions. Makes their jobs easier.

[@Archangelsword]

The settlements should be paid out of the police retirement fund, let's see if some of these cops stop abusing civilians.

[@HikaruKatayamma]

These cops all need to go to prison.

[@jimmyzhao2673]

Cops have qualified immunity.

[@ronaldhudson169]

After being interogated for 17 hours.

[@jpnewman1688]

But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@dangeary2134]

Jail? I think that Dad should have his choice of consequences for what they did to his son.

[@ccrider77]

Brainwashing 101... A prisoner will say anything if deprived of enough sleep, food, medication and if they are fed false information.

[@MatthewC137]

"He didn't sound concerned." Lehto should have pointed out that there's no law against being unconcerned.

[@NanaWilson-px9ij]

If he wasn't concerned, why did he call 911?

[@truffleshuffle009]

The mind blowing thing about this story is not what the cops did because sadly that is the state of our judicial system but the fact that these 4 officers are allowed to remain on the job for what they have done and for the taxpayers to pay for it.

[@avi8r66]

Each cop involved needs to have their case histories reviewed for similar behavior.

[@zippythinginvention]

This!

[@1776Angry]

It'll never happen.

[@avi8r66]

@russbell6418 Certainly if a confession was key to the conviction or even charges, absolutely.

[@Jirodyne]

@@avi8r66 I disagree. The is literally Torture, a Violation of your Constitutional rights. Even if you did MASS MURDER, if they got a confession from you this way, you should be FULLY PARDEN and never allied to be charged for that crime again as punishment to the police and government for how badly they fucked up

[@roland4610]

How can you trust any confessions from that departement ever? This is truly outrageous

[@rogerszmodis]

I’m not shocked at all. Sounds like a normal day of policing to me.

[@jimdavis1566]

No it doesn't

[@martyk1156]

America

[@danielboone8435]

​@@jimdavis1566 It does, it's just normally the people they do this to have been discarded by the rest of society.

[@scslre]

@@jimdavis1566 it's definitely 100% totally the first time those cops (or any cops) have done this. it definitely doesn't sound like a routine thing for these cops. at all.

[@Jirodyne]

@@scslre No it isn't. This is NOT the first time. They do this EVERY single time. There are literally videos released on youtube about this, there are DOCUMENTARIES about this. For fucks sake Steve HIMSELF talks about a story of this happening to a TEENAGE in this video!

[@ShreddingFinn]

$900K is nothing for such an offense,

[@MIchaelArlowe]

Even worse, that is 900k from the community. Those cops won’t pay a dime, or suffer any consequences at all.

[@juliao1255]

I would guess he took that lowball offer to prove he wasn't in it for the money. I wish it'd been taken before a jury 'cuz it would've been a hell of a lot more!

[@mitchjr77]

Those cops who believed the Dog KNEW their suspect “did it” are probably the same kind of idiots who think there are Lawyer Dogs too! 🤦‍♂️

[@BrandieCorr-ow8rs]

Fontana has never have very good school scores it wouldn't surprise me to find out they're teaching flat earth alongside abstinence. It's shameful what San Bernardino County has turned into.

[@ronnieitaquab1008]

The dog hits 100% on anything they say it does whenever without showing anything

[@brianschreiner7587]

When I started studying law, i was listening to an audio tape...between 4 and 8(I forget now), mixed sheriff local PD stormed a house w/o warrant and held his wife in separate room while they ransacked his house and two of them beat him and threatened him coercion style to sign a consent of search waiver, unknowingly he had seen them amassing outside and setup a surveillance camera on a bookshelf and recorded the whole incident. Two were fired, three were sentenced to 3-6 years prison, and he won suit for mega millions. This was twenty years back, and look whats changed, absolutely nothing!! Come'on people, stop accepting government 'gimmees' and help stop this shit!!!

[@jonanderson4474]

Hope you're never in a situation like this but doubt if you were you'd have your resolve.

[@jamescarter8662]

This is a perfect example of why the police should NOT be allowed to lie to people! They will probably be cover under qualified immunity!

[@SakuraNyan]

Since a settlement was reached, they're not. Had it gone to trial, there's a significantly non-zero probability that a morally bankrupt judge would be like "sure you can have qualified immunity".

[@michaelrizzo5492]

This tells me, convictions mean more than finding out the truth.

[@gazoontight]

I forget where I read it, but somewhere it is written, the truth isn't what really happened, it's what a jury believes happened.

[@CaseyDplays]

Those cops should all be fired and the entire department should be investigated.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

Fired, and imprisoned.

[@markmixon1121]

Police are doing what they have been trained to do. It's not a department thing it's done this way from the Pacific to the Atlantic.

[@suesmith5746]

@@markmixon1121 No it is not. I live in a city of about 300,000. Our police are fabulous, we pay a lot more than neighboring towns, but we get what we pay for. There is a waiting list to apply for a job here. I live in a low income mixed race neighborhood and have had the opportunity to see my police in action. I came home from work about 11 PM and their was a drunk minority man laying half in the street and half in my drive. It is not a busy street so I called the non emergency number to report it because the temperature outside was about 10 degrees F. I had room to drive around him safely and go in my house. I then went into an upstairs closet where I am in complete darkness and can open the window and evesdrop. In 3 or 4 minutes a patrol car came. One officer went over to the man and said " Mr so and so you seem to be having some trouble. How can we help you? The Drunk said I keep falling down and am getting cold." The officer would you like us to help you up and take you to the shelter where you live? The man said yes sir that would be very very nice. thank you" The 2 officers gently helped him up and into the back of the car. Another time I came home in middle of afternoon. 6 or 7 of my older or disabled neighbors were sitting on a wall across the street and there were 6 police cars. They had stopped a car with 4 non white young men, and an officer had then spread them out on both sides of the street and they were quietly questing them individually. After about 5 minutes the officers had a brief conference. 2 of the men were arrested and 2 walked to the bus stop around the corner, All the people on the wall clapped for the police for doing a good job. Turned out driver had a warrent, 2nd guy had a fairly large bag of pot fall out of his pants when he walked across street. The other 2 men were not wanted and behaved respectfully to the police they went home. Our police have been trained to be polite and respectful to everyone. To avoid escalating a situation. They have invested in themselves by getting a 4 year police science college degree. These include courses in social work, psychology, and other important courses for the police job. The police department then trains them on shooting, safely tackling someone. etc. When needed they know we have enough people to give them backup. Our swat team sniper got 1st place in the regional skills competition. If force is needed they are ready and able to use it.. But they are paid and treated like skilled professional people should be. They know the general public likes and appreciates them for the hard job they have chosen to do.

[@DenWoo-c2u]

NEVER CALL POLICE !!! On 2 occasions over a 15 year time period, I called police to ask about accident reports, because I was worried about my wife (at the time), as I could not reach her by phone after a long period of time. In both cases, the police showed up to my home uninvited to bang on my door and to verbally harass me about her disappearance. Thankfully she showed up in both cases. Otherwise I believe they would have arrested me. Note I have no record and am totally clean, no arrests and no convictions. NEVER TRUST THE POLICE

[@andrewvirtue5048]

Should make it so that police cant "retire" while something they were involved in is under investigation.

[@countbenjamin1442]

Or allow them to be recalled like the military can. Hey you know that retirement and pension...well we are recalling you to for you and take it away. I would love to make that phone call

[@Artist_Kevin]

They have zeo legal obligation to serve and protect. We need reform.

[@user-no1cares]

I think the cops were right despite testimony by the father after his murder. Support the blue!

[@Stop_Gooning]

"Protect and Serve" is a PR slogan that an OC Sheriff thought would look good on his cruisers.

[@robthomas3664]

They DO "serve and protect", just NOT you or I.

[@BL-yj2wp]

Since they can't always be everywhere, that makes no sense.

[@codyrhodes1344]

They protect the state's monopoly on violence and serve the moneyed interests of the people with wealth and power.

[@zufalllx]

These cops need to be fired and prosecuted.

[@1BlackSheep]

End qualified immunity, If cops had to pay for actions like this they wouldn't do it. Also they should never be allowed to just switch departments when they screw up. It should cost them there Certs.

[@northyland1157]

I'm surprised they didn't charge the guy with making false statements to the police.

[@jimmyzhao2673]

Omigosh !

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

That's probably why he settled so low. "We'll charge you if you don't take the deal."

[@karlrovey]

​@nuclearmedicineman6270 They were concerned that any judgement could be overturned on appeal due to qualified immunity.

[@mediocreman2]

This is a legitimate threat they make. It happened to me when I reported a coworker for permanently damaging my property. It would have cost thousands to repair and when I went in to interview with the cops, they threatened to charge me with filling false charges. Never give in to these scum if you're innocent.

[@fetchstixRHD]

Don't start giving them ideas now, lest it become reality...

[@ianbattles7290]

This could have led to a great Perry Mason moment, where the "murder victim" walks into the courtroom mid-trial.

[@migueltenn]

Most cops and lawyers don't care who's guilty or innocent, they just want to "solve" or win a case at Any cost... actually at any body's cost. Disgusting !!

[@juliao1255]

Yes, and if they're sociopaths they get pleasure from watching a someone suffer.

[@beepbop6697]

Torture will not produce the truth. These cops tortured the kid.

[@captainjimolchs]

"Technically", he submitted voluntarily. All he needed to do was to say he chose to remain silent.

[@SSHitMan]

This is far more common than people realize. When faced with the choice of confessing to a crime you didn't do in exchange for a fine or probation, or spending your life savings and your retirement to fight in court and have years in prison if you lose the rational choice for many people is to plead guilty to a crime you didn't commit.

[@ERDoc741]

My situation currently….

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

Coincidentally, "zoomer historian" just did a piece about Nuremberg

[@DiegoMartinez-ou5wn]

Those cops need to be in prison yesterday.

[@Zundfolge]

The interrogating officers should be on the hook for the settlement (and it should have been 10 times what it was). Every case this police department got a confession in needs to be re-tried.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

Exactly

[@SakuraNyan]

Re-tried *and* the jury in the retrial informed about how that department tortured a confession out of someone for a crime that didn't even happen.

[@dontaylor7315]

After that horror show all he got was $900K?!?! Where's the justice in that?

[@yodaflyz]

Them cops belong in jail.

[@ronaldhudson169]

I hope he got $900,000 + court costs and attorney fees, so that he at least gets the whole 900,000 to make his whole.

[@allenbudinger441]

No his lawyer got half or more

[@Dan-yk6sy]

That will teach those tax payers!

[@jpnewman1688]

​@@ronaldhudson169really.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@draighodge6039]

Communists would be proud! This is the kind of thing the Soviets did to their citizens for 77 years.

[@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes]

Nazis done it as well.

[@draighodge6039]

@@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes Really? Why are Communists always denied credit? Their damage dwarfs the destruction by national socialists by orders of magnitude.

[@Sgt_Glory]

Look up a psychologist called Joost Meerloo. He wrote the seminal work on the mind-game tactics used by both those regimes at their height and how they operated. It's fascinating, grim, but worth the read. Title is "The (R-word) of the Mind: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing" (replace the R-word with a 4-letter word YT doesn't like)

[@draighodge6039]

@Sgt_Glory That's scary stuff, thank you for calling my attention to Prof. Meerloo.

[@larrywest42]

Yes, this is classic totalitarian / authoritarian behavior. Watch out for politicians who undercut judges and juries★, who, in the end, are our only protection. ★ including false accusations of corruption

[@SiriusMined]

Monstrous. Policing is completely broken in this country.

[@raygiordano1045]

I reckon the whole justice system is utterly beyond repair.

[@Al-Fiallos]

I agree with you, but I think that policing has always been broken and the reason it looks so bad today is because of the use of cell phones and police body cams. JMHO.

[@fs127]

@@Al-Fiallos You're mostly right; policing has always relied on abusing the vulnerable, but the scale of the abuse has skyrocketed with the drug war and the rise of the prison industrial complex. It started the way it was designed, targeting those with high melanin and other "undesirables", but as pocket filled it quickly quit caring who filled them as long as beds kept getting filled. At this point where these human warehouses are popping up like mushrooms across the country, we get to share witness with our cameras what the recruiters are willing to do to stay employed filling them.

[@jpnewman1688]

Only the gangsters in blue??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jpnewman1688]

​@@fs127really.. Let's ask the natives, blacks or any minority groups.. 😂😂😂

[@sadtiger2022]

So instead of spending 17 hours verifying where his Dad was, they mentally torture the kid?! Very abusive and taking advantage of power and authority.

[@kevinwest7912]

They DON'T have the authority to do what they did. They have power just like every other criminal. Authority comes from the constitution/law which they shredded.

"Nobody needs to fear the police if they haven't done anything wrong." Cases like this one (and there are many more) make me so angry I'd like to make a book out of all these cases and then bash the people who put forth the BS above with this book.

[@someoldguy109]

The cop's need major jail time.

[@aaaaa5272]

yea, lets jail everyone!! You are MAGA?!?

[@OmniscientWarrior]

The way you wrote this, it reads as though the cop (singular) need jail time like people need food or clothes.

[@Alverant]

@@OmniscientWarrior They do.

[@zang9147]

At least they didn't kill his father to cover their tracks.

[@zippythinginvention]

They probably considered it.

[@rogerszmodis]

Yet

[@halflife2fun]

Probably couldn't because he was at the airport. Otherwise who knows

[@DingusKhan42]

This is why, even when you're innocent, you never talk to the police. Especially when they "Just want to ask you a few questions".

[@janwells2199]

This should be used as proof in court that confessions can be false.

[@Shilakamea]

There are several cases of false confessions on crimes that never happened already out there unfortunately. And people still believe that people would never admit to something they didn't do. We also have executed innocent people who DNA evidence cleared but the justice system refused to release.

[@garymackey850]

My dad was a policeman....he stressed to all of us kids...if you get a jam with police....First words out of your mouth....This interview is over until I have an Attorney present....period.

[@brandonthailand2062]

The same cops will obey unconstitutional laws when tyrants crack down.

[@larryulrich9110]

I was waiting for the twist to follow. The father came home, couldn't find his son, called the police for his son , accused of killing his son, coerce confession, wash, rinse, repeat.

[@joelazaro461]

Then they both get convicted for murdering each other due to their confessions, and coincidentally end up sharing a jail cell.

[@larryulrich9110]

@@joelazaro461 Excellent followup.

[@jtr82369]

That is just disgusting, this is why you don’t say a word & demand a lawyer. Those cops should be in prison…

[@uzlonewolf]

At one point he did ask for a lawyer and the cops refused.

[@josepheccles9341]

Not only a suit, but charges should be filed against the detectives,

[@dirkhamilton2709]

Qualified immunity HAS to end.

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@stephendonahue6579]

If it were not for the internet we would not know about the hundreds/thousands of police overreach. This just (police stupidity and evil and lawlessness) makes me lose hope in the state of the country.

[@tomeauburn]

Don't worry. Lots of states are trying to restrict things they do though new laws. Florida not allowed to video tape closer than 25 ft and no civilian reviews. Doing either will be a felony. Trump supporters he is saying he will grant police total immunity so this lawsuit would not happen. Regardless of what they do they will not be held accountable

[@jpnewman1688]

But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@craigshuman5023]

I did an intro to psych paper years ago on false confession. It happens more often than the average person realizes.

[@renereyes4999]

This level of cruelty is mind boggling. Evil just too evil! This is what qualified immunity has gotten us into. Absolute power, Corrupts absolutely.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

This type of evil makes me fear for how these 4 "officers" might treat their families behind closed doors. Have you ever looked into the studies about law enforcement personnel and perpetration of domestic violence?

[@chrischeehan2423]

This has been standard practice for at least 30 years. A friend of mine confessed to 3 crimes in 1994 after being interrogated for 16 hours. He was held in lockdown and not allowed to sleep, have any food for 10 hours before his interrogation. His confession was eventually thrown out, as were the charges. He was awarded attorneys fees, and $15,000 in a settlement, but NOBODY was held accountable for the false imprisonment, coercion or false arrest. Nothing changed. Fast forward to now....same practices

[@kurtwetzel154]

If a crime did happen I can see getting a conviction from the wrong person but when the case is made up?

[@chrischeehan2423]

@@kurtwetzel154 LEO testimony and reports in court are believed in court as if they are omnipotent by juries and judges all the time. An FBI analyst had literally ALL of his forensic work thrown out for around 40 cases because he "decided" those being investigated should be in jail. Look it up! At the time I was dating a person in the County forensic lab, and she didn't even know what a double blind test was. Law enforcement just trust them because they are "career" employees

[@ObIitus]

@@kurtwetzel154 Crime? Why are you even bringing up crime? It is not about crimes.

[@jpnewman1688]

You can be detained indefinitely without trial in 🇺🇸 since 2011.. 💯💯

[@chrischeehan2423]

@@jpnewman1688 which reference case are you relying on?

[@hkc1960]

Absolutely horrendous and unconscionable. That man deserved more compensation. So horrible. This is very evil. Praying for him.

[@mattgayda2840]

What, the "heroes" driving around in vehicles with a desecrated flag would never do that...

[@arinerm1331]

You broke my sarcasm meter.

[@Paxmax]

Its not like they are the largest criminal gang ever, outright road pirates, with gang apparel, virtually untouchable because of the corrupt unconditional govermental backing..?

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

That NKVD stripe...

[@wvguy7238]

Their flag isn't the US flag. It's the thin blue line flag.

[@Paxmax]

@@wvguy7238 Basically just a gang tag.

[@robertbarnes432]

The lesson here, and I was surprised you didn’t mention it, is that you NEVER talk to the police without asking for a lawyer; just refuse to speak without a lawyer. The scariest part of this is that the officers are still employed… how is what they did to this man not a firing offense?

[@uzlonewolf]

He did ask for a lawyer. The cops refused.

[@popperbits]

At what point will taxpayers finally have had enough of paying for police departments accountability and demand changes from police departments

[@Mark-ol2ll]

Pretty sure this cost the taxpayers a whole lot more than 900k.

[@Vazzini42]

All their past cases are up for review now.

[@arinerm1331]

"There is no human situation so miserable that it cannot be made worse by the presence of the police." --Brendan Behan Dad goes missing, son seeks police help, police torture son. Yeah, we live in an amazing time.

[@realbadger]

Shades of those falsely accused "witches" being tortured into confessing...

[@YeeZus001]

$900k is not enough. It should had included all of their pensions.

[@Headcase650]

That's not enough money, and these officers should face some criminal prosecution.

[@chadalaimo6490]

These tyrants need to be arrested

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

Do we know how these abusers treat their families behind closed doors?

[@audreyjohnson4599]

The police also took the man's dog to an animal shelter. He had to find out where they took the dog to get her/him back.

[@uzlonewolf]

And they badly injured it to the point it couldn't walk any more.

[@dpc0809]

So this should open up all past confessions to these investigators for scrutiny.

[@richardbriscoe8563]

There’s a case in Texas where a man was convicted of murder and spent 15 years on death row because the prosecutor, yes, an attorney, knowingly and intentionally withheld exculpatory evidence that the man did not commit the offense and had never even been in the county where the offense occurred.

[@yodaflyz]

Reminds me of Kamala Harris.

[@MeRiaNevaMynd]

I'm not surprised. I've read way too many stories along the same lines... utterly sickening

[@MattHudsonAtx]

There are many cases like that in Texas. Our prosecutors are absolutely out of control.

[@janitorizamped]

​@@yodaflyzwhy would that remind you of her? She literally never did anything like that?

[@jpnewman1688]

​@@MattHudsonAtxyou meant your masters.. 😂😂😂

[@aaronglaser]

Most cops would think it’s dumb to film your own crime. But they do it all the times

[@halflife2fun]

Most of the time they are shielded from the consequences

[@juliao1255]

It's not dumb if you know you have the backing of the system.

[@ShadowC14]

Rewatching some older content, and this still grinds my gears. What gets me most isnt the total disregard of duty and the single minded persuit to get a conviction at all costs, purely down to a gut feeling... But its the inhumanity of it all. They literally tortured a man n lied to him about murdering his dog and they clearly didnt care what this did to him, they must've pat themselves on the back for the confession when in any other career they would be afraid of losing their jobs long before the court got involved

[@hunter371]

Only $900K? That's it? We need police reforms yesterday

[@shadowninja6689]

This video reminds me of a story I saw a decade ago on Dateline about a murder conviction for a murder that never happened. Long story short a US marine husband became mysteriously ill after visiting a carnival with his wife and died a few days later, the autopsy never came to a satisfying conclusion about the cause of death. But when they re-tested the blood samples or something from the body months later it suddenly came back at having a high level of a deadly poison, and since they decided the wife didn't look like she was grieving enough they arrested her and charged her with murder and won a conviction. But then when filing an appeal they did a third test of the blood samples from the body, and it turned out that the second test that found the deadly poison was caused by a mistake and there was no poison after all (which is exactly what one of the witnesses for the defense had said, that if there was poison there was no way it would have been missed the first time around).

[@jemmrich]

This should call into question all the investigations that these officers were involved with. That sounded mind-boggling cruel.

[@builtontherockhomestead9390]

Those officers should go to prison.

[@tomfrommichigan]

The thing that saddens me the most, is that this story doesn't surprise me.