Polish sabre cuts sequence

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Above is the sequence of Polish sabre cuts made into a sequence based on Starzewski 12 root cuts, that can be found in its original form on this channel.
Cuts are the most popular actions of cavalry that are mentioned by both Polish and western sources.
Music:
Falling in slow motion - RKVC
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@jiskodadski3208 2 жыл бұрын

Love these techniques 💪👏

@rickx5361 9 ай бұрын

Hello, I was wondering where you take your sources and memoirs from to build a full system of fencing. I am very interested in the Polish sabre but I cannot expand my knowledge further than the Starzewski's manual. thanks, Rick

@jurekmiklaszewski7027 9 ай бұрын

Starzewski is one of the epigones, meaning that along with Durski and Bryła they are already a merge of the western and original styles of the region. Memoirs are mostly scanned and available online, yet they are in Polish. If you are interested to know more, we will be restarting Polish sabre online live lessons soon, regards!

@rickx5361 9 ай бұрын

@@jurekmiklaszewski7027 Thank you for your reply, Pozdrawiam

@LafayetteCCurtis 9 ай бұрын

Do we have enough information in the sources to figure out whether the Moskiewskie and Tatarskie were meant to be done with a straight arm? Given their names, they sound like they might be influenced by the bent-arm draw-cutting methods from parts of Central Asia or the Middle East, though I suppose it's also possible that those names didn't literally attribute those techniques to the corresponding neighbouring cultures.

@jurekmiklaszewski7027 9 ай бұрын

So the issue is that both terms come from the books as solely mentions of cuts being done in a certain direction. In that manner the moskiewskie cut being a cut from above was taken as the most abundant cavalry cutting technique used in Europe in 18th century. This one is made with straight arm, that is the reconstruction i chose as the main reference. While tatarskie is the cut that is described many times and it is in fact made with bent arm. While i see lots of people understanding 'bent arm' in a manner that is deprived of reality. It is not about the arm being bent, but the arm being not fully extended, this is a feature pf many curved sabre eastern style cutting. In this manner the motion has much more slicing force than in the more typical to western Europe.(e.g. muscovite cut)

@jurekmiklaszewski7027 9 ай бұрын

Notice the motion differences in this video, muscovite is done fully extended, while tatarskie is done in a bent arm motion. That meaning see the pulling/slicing action that is underlined there. The latter is clearly oriental in origin. Although it may be just older style, since weapons like hussar sabre and dussacks forced a limited hammer grip that allowed only the 'bent arm' mechanics. At the same time we are completely unaware of oriental practices prior to late 18th century.

@LafayetteCCurtis 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I know Starzewski wasn't terribly specific on how to perform those cuts, which was why I was wondering about whether there's any other more detailed sources for us to base the interpretations upon. I actually find it interesting that there's even a cut attributed to the Muscovites to begin with even though I'm not aware of them having a particular reputation for formidable swordsmanship while they were fighting the Commonwealth.

@jurekmiklaszewski7027 9 ай бұрын

@@LafayetteCCurtisno, no. These names of cutd you see in the videos come from various Polish sources. Here is just the sequence of cuts (like the set of targets and directions that make up cuts one after another). I made these video using one sequence so that you can compare cut mechanics to eachother among different systems. Starzewski was like 100% super specific on how to make cuts, the first video is about starzewski cuts. Starzewski makes a very particular school which disallows bending elbow at all, and even not allow movement of the shoulder except in horixontal manner.

@LafayetteCCurtis 9 ай бұрын

@@jurekmiklaszewski7027 Huh. It might be a good idea to shoot a video just to explain where these cuts came from, since the information isn’t exactly easy to find for people who don’t speak Polish.