John Locke - Introduction to the Second Treatise | Political Philosophy

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Could you please provide quotes from John Locke indicating that he thought toleration should not be extended to Catholics? (I will ask about atheists later.)

[@James_Muldoon]

"But yet there are two cases or circumstances which may still upon the same grounds vary the magistrate’s usage of the men that claim this right to toleration. 1. Since men usually take up their religion in gross, and assume to themselves the opinions of their party all at once in a bundle, it often happens, that they mix with their religious worship, and speculative opinions, other doctrines absolutely destructive to the society wherein they live, as is evident in the Roman Catholics that are subjects of any prince but the pope. These therefore blending such opinions with their religion, reverencing them as fundamental truths, and submitting to them as articles of their faith, ought not to be tolerated by the magistrate in the exercise of their religion unless he can be secured, that he can allow one part, without the spreading of the other, and that the propagation of these dangerous opinions may be separated from their religious worship, which I suppose is very hard to be done." - An Essay Concerning Toleration 1667 The problem appears to be that Catholics' purported allegiance to the Pope could interfere with the sovereign's authority. The more complicated version of the argument is that while theoretically, it may be possible to tolerate Catholics, the uncivil nature of their views, insofar as they seem to follow the moral "fundamental truths" set out by the Pope, makes them a threat to civil society and an exception to claims to toleration.

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Are you sure that is a quote from *A letter concerning toleration*?

[@James_Muldoon]

@@TylerJTube good pick up. It's from "An Essay concerning Toleration". Typo amended.

[@TylerJTube]

@@James_Muldoon It seems that you are quoting from an unpublished work of John Locke where he is working out his views. This seems like a dubious way of arriving at John Locke's views, no? Wouldn't if be fair to say that John Locke seems to have concluded that these earlier views of his were not that tolerant and that he, therefore, decided not to include them in his "Letter"?

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