Polygyny in Islam | Dr. Shabir Ally

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Let the Quran Speak

Let the Quran Speak

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@TariqYasiinProd
@TariqYasiinProd 3 жыл бұрын
Some men can"t even do justice to one wife, let alone four.
@SAMIRA0209
@SAMIRA0209 3 жыл бұрын
👏🏽 😅
@jahidlm7910
@jahidlm7910 3 жыл бұрын
Fact
@izzycupcake2412
@izzycupcake2412 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@geo-yq4ed
@geo-yq4ed 3 жыл бұрын
True
@khaderlander2429
@khaderlander2429 3 жыл бұрын
Those who can should go for more than one help their community take more responsibility for the single ladies.
@alchesterdescallar6053
@alchesterdescallar6053 3 жыл бұрын
My advice to fellow brothers is stick to one, because you can never do justice to two let alone up to four wives, my first cousin has 3 wives and its a total chaos, and he used that exact verse from the Qur’aan to his advantage to marry young lady’s, well guess what it back fired to his face and until now its still a mess, the Qur’aan is a balance book, if you take something to advance your personal agenda be ready for the blow back.
@atlas5651
@atlas5651 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! This is not what God commanded.
@khaderlander2429
@khaderlander2429 3 жыл бұрын
Your advice should have been, brothers help out the sisters by practicing Sunnah of our prophet scw polygyny. To illustrate this, we refer to the Qur'anic passage on the subject of polygyny, a text which conveys more than one meaning, as follows 'And if you fear that you may be unable to treat the orphans fairly, then marry of the women who seem good to you, two, three or four. But if you fear that you cannot treat [your co-wives] equitably, then marry only one. . .' (al-Nisa', 4:3). At least three or four meanings are distinguishable in this text which are: first, the legality of marriage, a meaning which is conveyed by the phrase fankihu ma taba lakum min al-nisa' ('marry of the women who seem good to you'); second, limiting polygyny to the maximum of four; third, remaining monogamous if polygyny may be feared to lead to injustice; and fourth, the requirement that orphaned girls must be accorded fair treatment, a meaning which is indicated in the first part of the text. All of these are conveyed in the actual words and sentences of the text. But the first and the last are subsidiary and incidental whereas the second and the third represent the explicit themes and meanings of the text, that is, the 'ibarah al- nass. Limiting polygyny to the maximum of four is the explicit meaning which takes absolute priority over all the implied and incidental meanings that this text might convey.[2. Khallaf, 'Ilm, p. 145.]
@latifaa.s2215
@latifaa.s2215 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the men always leave out the "be fair, be just" part, which is the most crucial . The part that puts accountability on the man, and if done well will usher in peace and amiability. This was one of my requests, and I was very reasonable with it. But my ex struggled. So, I ask the question; shouldn't finances, mental health and islamic knowledge be the focus of the men who choose to follow this sunnah.
@crestfire8008
@crestfire8008 2 жыл бұрын
Does it matter what were the conditions? Once something is allowed there will always be exploitation. The women are the only victims of this
@houseofprayerpraywithoutce7154
@houseofprayerpraywithoutce7154 2 жыл бұрын
Moh was the only person able to do justice to multiple wifes. So allah granted him the previlage to have more than 4 including the wife of his son.
@strongwoman5129
@strongwoman5129 4 жыл бұрын
A true believing Muslim man who really fears and believes in ALLAH knows that ALLAH is aware of his intentions and deeds. So if he wants a second wife for bad or lust reasons then he should be ashamed because he knows ALLAH knows his intention !
@goldenemitte2245
@goldenemitte2245 4 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong to have that intention?
@hennessy6379
@hennessy6379 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldenemitte2245 umm yes. marrying a woman for sexual needs is disgusting and degrading. you only need ONE wife. so stop using women for lust and actually respect them because Islam really does favor men or women - coming from a Muslim gir.
@holdshiftt2run308
@holdshiftt2run308 3 жыл бұрын
@@hennessy6379 Who said Islamic marriage was about that?
@shafiq154
@shafiq154 3 жыл бұрын
@@hennessy6379 What other than sexual desire a man needs to marry a woman ? Men now a days can cook, wash clothes and everything else likewise,
@em_anet
@em_anet 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldenemitte2245 yess it issss okkkk... A wife is not only to fulfil ur sexual desiress in quran and in islam she is mention as a partner in ur lifeee
@huseyinsalis9391
@huseyinsalis9391 Жыл бұрын
Without mentioning the following ayah, the concept is so missing. Nisa:129: "You will not be able to be fair between wives, even if you are eager to do so. Yet do not turn away from one altogether, leaving her as if in a suspense. But if you are conciliatory and Godwary, Allah is indeed all-forgiving, all-merciful."
@MessiWorldCup-th2de
@MessiWorldCup-th2de 7 ай бұрын
This just means emotionally and it’s saying don’t just side with one if u try treat them equally but love one more that’s fine
@checkeredvans7344
@checkeredvans7344 4 жыл бұрын
If my husband ever asks for a second wife I’m gonna say he can have one once I get a second husband.
@hashknight1
@hashknight1 4 жыл бұрын
i think that is permissible in your religon but not in islam
@checkeredvans7344
@checkeredvans7344 4 жыл бұрын
hashknight1 it was sarcasm, I’m Muslim but if my husband asks for a second wife it’s divorce on the spot.
@hashknight1
@hashknight1 4 жыл бұрын
@@checkeredvans7344 oh i see.muslim women can also make a contract before marriage that she will be the only wife.For me myself,one wife is more than enough and hope i`ll enter jannah along with her hand in hands.
@checkeredvans7344
@checkeredvans7344 4 жыл бұрын
hashknight1 that’s great and all, but I don’t believe that there should be more than one wife, sure what Shabir said in the video was valid there are certain circumstances where you should be able to take a second wife but at this day and age men are abusing it and saying it is a mans right, even if the woman does not want him to get a second wife there is a huge stigma in our middle eastern culture that shamed divorced woman so her only choice is to put up with the fact that her husband is smashing someone else or get a divorce and be shunned for it .
@hashknight1
@hashknight1 4 жыл бұрын
@@checkeredvans7344 i agree with the islamic point of view where it is really necessary for one to marry more than one wife.we cannot discard it just because westerners are trying to promote this idea of one wife entangled in hypocrisy.the main problem is our muslim men should be taught to practice islam properly and not abuse it
@agnishikhachoudhury1862
@agnishikhachoudhury1862 6 жыл бұрын
Wow,this is a beautiful host and the scholar is a neutral one,not gender biassed.At least I felt that,though I belong to a different religion. This is a topic which crosses the minds of even non Muslims like me.I just hope both believers and non believers understand the real reason of the polygyny verse through this. God bless. 😊
@thelonewolfproduction5200
@thelonewolfproduction5200 5 жыл бұрын
My dear but the fun part is they can not change the verse with time. At the time it was ok to have polygamy. But now??? Is it?? They will say this is the book of Allah. It can not be changed. That's the most devastating.
@ashraf_shafi
@ashraf_shafi 5 жыл бұрын
@@thelonewolfproduction5200 yeah but the verse say CAN have not SHOULD have so the verse still remains unchanged and it should be followed according to the current situation.
@xtreme6018
@xtreme6018 4 жыл бұрын
True...polygynny is women r8 violation...its cultural
@shabahathusain6874
@shabahathusain6874 4 жыл бұрын
there are 7 million more women tha men in usa similarly russia uk germany etc so who’s going to marry those 7 mllion women they have 2 choices either they become prostitutes or marry a man who is already married and gain a status of a wife ang getting a support of her partner economically socially and emotionally. what an irony a man can have multiple sexual partners but cannot marry more than one. im amazed that adultry ie cheating spouse is legal in most parts of europe and world but marrying more than 1 is a serious crim. think about it,its not an argument
@hashknight1
@hashknight1 4 жыл бұрын
@@shabahathusain6874 because most muslims have started living a more western lifestyle than a islamic lifestyle .we ourselves might also be doing this right now.its better to go back to our roots.
@TariqYasiinProd
@TariqYasiinProd 3 жыл бұрын
This man is great, you can feel his strong presence and his perfect way of expressing even the most complex issues.
@leoz4755
@leoz4755 3 жыл бұрын
Doctor Shabir is my favorite Islamic scholar.
@strongwoman5129
@strongwoman5129 4 жыл бұрын
Its very crucial to note that before ALLAH (swt) mentions the verse that allows you to have up to 4 wives the verse before talks about doing injustice to orphans and widows!! so it can be more than safe to assume that ALLAH wants men to marry orphans and widows!!! Allah himself says u cant do justice to more than 1 wife so just be content with what u have!!!
@MONKEYDUDE2701
@MONKEYDUDE2701 3 жыл бұрын
You CAN not should marry more than one wife if you fear injustice for the orphans. This is what is stated in the Quran, widows are not stated in that verse. You can not marry the child, the orphan, no. You should marry his/her mother, which is now a widow, because muslim man have the responsibility to care for their family. So naturally, by marrying her you HAVE to care for her and her children. That way it is made sure that the orphans and the widows are taken care of. Back in those days alone mothers with children had it so hard that they basically could not care for themselves. So this was a good solution. Nowadays, we generally do not fear injustice for widows and orphans because a lot of states have welfare and such and help these people. So they are taken care of and do not necessarily need a man. So, in todays world, you simply (generally, some countries are exceptions) do not have legitimate reasons to marry more than one wife, and if you do not have a reason than it is illegal to do it.
@hassanabdur-rahman1559
@hassanabdur-rahman1559 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing in the Quran that says be content with what you have. You cannot project today's western culture into the Quran. Polygyny did not begin with the Quran. It was practiced long before the Quran was revealed. The Quran just regulates polygyny when marrying the mothers of orphans. The limit of 4 wives at a time is only in terms of marrying to ensure that a man will not be overburdened with the responsibility of taken care of too many orphans at one time. Actually the Quran does not limit the number of wives a man can marry. The Prophet himself actually had 9 wives. Other companions also had more than 4 wives. Remember the Quran also allowed men marry women captives of warfare against the Pagan Quresh tribe.
@telegoholic
@telegoholic 2 жыл бұрын
Allah was himself a creep, and had many wives to satisfy his needs 🤭
@arshadali-hx7bo
@arshadali-hx7bo 2 жыл бұрын
@@telegoholic @@@ hindu
@houseplant7441
@houseplant7441 2 жыл бұрын
Bro. Do you know what an orphan means ? It’s referring to parentless children… that’s pedophilic. The verses before it are talking about doing Justice to orphans by giving them wealth or assets to maintain themselves. And then after it says if you can’t do Justice by giving them assets, then to marry them. Wtf groomers
@cklyngdoh4628
@cklyngdoh4628 3 жыл бұрын
It's not socially acceptable to marry more than one wife. It's socially, emotionally, spiritually, morally, mentally and economically wrong and unacceptable at all. No man can really fulfill all the above needs if he has many wives.... What a shame!!!!!
@shakilaalimi5274
@shakilaalimi5274 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct
@vii525
@vii525 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Islam is lost and i can't believe they justify adultery lol. Glory to God Jesus christ is the truth and the way and life!!
@ZM-et7zt
@ZM-et7zt 2 жыл бұрын
You're wrong actually, in a time of war when there are few men and multiple widows with sexual needs that also have children that need financial care, it makes sense for men to have multiple wives to cater for that need in society. It is so that every woman can have a stable relationship and family. Islam caters for extreme times as well as otherwise. The Quran actually says if you cannot do justice, then marry only one. So if these men cant do justice then they arent allowed to practice polygyny! No other religion actually has this written command for monogamy. Men may abuse the ruling but the wisdom of the religion is evident.
@razamughal9095
@razamughal9095 2 жыл бұрын
Your father is under the shoe of his wife. CLEARLY 🙄.
@ef2883
@ef2883 2 жыл бұрын
@@vii525 Some sects of Christianity practice polygyny too. Also your prophets according to your books had multiple wives (Abraham had 3, Moses had 2). Other figures too: King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, etc
@ChasinOneTwelve
@ChasinOneTwelve 6 жыл бұрын
I shouldn’t be writing as maybe what I write can be false or misleading and definitely would not like this to be used against me on the day of judgement. But Shabir Ally has explained this very well in my opinion. He has stated the quranic verse for clarity. When compared to other verses in the Quran, 2, 3 and 4s is a reference to more than one. I do not know if 4 is the maximum or not. From the context of the verse we can also see that multiple marriage is purely conditional(it’s what I believe anyway). A condition is stated before the command is made permissible. Also if you fear injustice then only one. Injustice is a very powerful word. The Islamic religion is based on justice and rights. The problem is we as a Muslim community do not read or apply logic to most things these days, rather chase carnal desires.. (I am not a scholar, this is clearly my opinion. Whatever I have stated is my own. If I have said something wrong, this is not on part of the religion, but my own. I take full responsibility. Allah knows best).
@shabahathusain6874
@shabahathusain6874 4 жыл бұрын
there are 7 million more women tha men in usa similarly russia uk germany etc so who’s going to marry those 7 mllion women they have 2 choices either they become prostitutes or marry a man who is already married and gain a status of a wife ang getting a support of her partner economically socially and emotionally. what an irony a man can have multiple sexual partners but cannot marry more than one. im amazed that adultry ie cheating spouse is legal in most parts of europe and world but marrying more than 1 is a serious crim. think about it,its not an argument
@shabahathusain6874
@shabahathusain6874 4 жыл бұрын
No i have no objection you're right i have just expressed my thought Don't consider it as an argument e both are right
@shabahathusain6874
@shabahathusain6874 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChasinOneTwelve not all women but it may lead to prostitution
@ChasinOneTwelve
@ChasinOneTwelve 4 жыл бұрын
@@shabahathusain6874 Indeed, it would be difficult for a women who adheres to religious modesty to not be able to satisfy her sexual desires. I was just trying to express my opinion about the verse in question. Peace :)
@imenehadim3097
@imenehadim3097 4 жыл бұрын
@@shabahathusain6874 thses 7 million women can simpelly marry yonger man there are men turning 18 every year so ?
@sarjomanneh9976
@sarjomanneh9976 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Aisha and Shabir for that wonderful and educative information. Please Allah be pleased with you
@elhadjiamadoujohnson4166
@elhadjiamadoujohnson4166 6 жыл бұрын
Sarjo Manneh Ameeen!!!
@sgma4m
@sgma4m 6 жыл бұрын
Polygamy was one undeniable fact in Islam …. b/c it was officially legalized in the Quran (up to 4 wives at the same time for each male) and many Islamic founders practiced it. Moreover, Shabir was not wise and detailed at all … when he forgot that the Quran author himself promised to reward each loyal male Muslim with many (72) virgin wives … after death!
@villaboyjay9869
@villaboyjay9869 5 жыл бұрын
@@sgma4mAl Quran not mentioned that only in hadith , spoken of prophet to motivated the small amount army on that time,but the rewards only for fighter on the holly war against pagan Arabs.on holly war .not for all situation out the context..
@sgma4m
@sgma4m 5 жыл бұрын
@@villaboyjay9869 Read your Quran again. Male is Number One in Islam! Beside Hadiths, the Quran legalized polygamy popular in paganism and it allowed each male to marry up to FOUR (4) wives at the same time, and also allowed male to divorce any wife if she is not satisfied his desire!
@inaaranur1611
@inaaranur1611 4 жыл бұрын
Dono Sago polygamy is for both men and women polygyny is men only and no it is not a Right for men in quo’ran it was a Concession for orphaned children and widows in a tribal situation after several battles At that time It is exploited by men and women have so then been exploited and indoctrinated as many could not actually read quo’ran as it is Arabic and believed what the leading Men told them Dr Shabir is correct in what he says
@mobyinayet5383
@mobyinayet5383 5 жыл бұрын
Mullahs disregard the 'if you fear' in the verse. YATAMA means orphans as well as unmarried, divorced or widowed women. 4:3 If you fear that you (the society) will not be able to do justice with the orphans, (as may happen in times of war and political turbulence, the government shall announce a state of Emergency), then, in order to accommodate widows and orphans, men of sound finances and character shall be encouraged to marry among these widows with mutual choice; two, three, and four. But, if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly, then, you must not take additional wives, and may continue with what you already have. This will be more suitable to prevent you from doing injustice and face financial hardship. [Second marriage during peace time is a frank violation of the Qur’an - note ‘If you fear’ in the beginning. 4:127-129]
@xtreme6018
@xtreme6018 4 жыл бұрын
Its law fr tht time nt tday....simple
@busybee1998
@busybee1998 4 жыл бұрын
The problem here is the woman's right to choose if she wishes to be in a polygamous relationship or not. Most women don't but they're forced to remain in such a relationship despite the fact that Allah has given her that choice.
@reazrahman1850
@reazrahman1850 2 жыл бұрын
There are hadith to explain marriages. No need to over intellectualize personal opinion and curve out linguistics based upon your personal opinion.
@mjrecommends9236
@mjrecommends9236 2 жыл бұрын
@@reazrahman1850 so you mean to say that men can have multiple wifes but don't have to take their feelings into account or be fair to them becauseuse oh well they are not human beings
@alphahelixx
@alphahelixx Жыл бұрын
@@xtreme6018 Why aren't more people understanding this!
@MyMaitetxu
@MyMaitetxu 5 жыл бұрын
what about all the men that have no women because one man has many wifes? I can´t stand this argument of why it was normal a 1000 years a go...it was normal to have slaves, we are living in the 21 century...I think poligamy is bad for men who have no change to have a woman when a powerfull man has many and for women who have to share a man...
@littleanimal490
@littleanimal490 3 жыл бұрын
It will help the women as most women even in muslim society dont get as many proposals for marriage. If men starting having more than 1 wife it will uplift women and they can choose whether they opt for becomming first wife or second. Similarly women who are widowed will also get proposals that will not only help those women but society as a whole. Now comming to your point about men not getting wife, brother there are more women than men in most of the countries even in us and uk alone there are 3 to 4 million more women than men. Similarly men die most often than women due to accidents and getting difficult jobs.
@ef2883
@ef2883 2 жыл бұрын
Friend that's why it's only allowed under conditions in which there is a shortage of men or surplus of women (due to war for example)... That way it is not unfair to men who have no wives...
@allahkapaigham8475
@allahkapaigham8475 6 жыл бұрын
Polygamy is not allowed in Islam. Allah Kareem make us understand in the Quranic Verses 4: 3 and 4: 129 that you can not establish justice between two wives. You will incline towards one and leave hanging other in between. Therefore one wife is recommended because we are unable to be equal between the two. The people who are already married to more than one women, they should amend themselves in the God-fearing way.
@yusafimran8951
@yusafimran8951 6 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with you ? Man can marry 4 wives period
@jaio7190
@jaio7190 5 жыл бұрын
Read2follow Quran yes it is allowed , but it’s not recommended
@Userdoesnotexit
@Userdoesnotexit 5 жыл бұрын
it is allowed
@gondala
@gondala 5 жыл бұрын
actually, I have learned Quran almost 35 years. I do have the same conclusion that even it is allowed to marry more than one, but it is not recommended. The argument is that, we have to consider whole Quran. In other ayah, it is said that God made human as a weak, also tend to unjust, greedy, miserly, etc. So having said that, I honestly think that what God recommends us to do is to marry one woman. But again, it just a recommendation, not a law.
@elkapitan75
@elkapitan75 5 жыл бұрын
@@gondala Yes I agree with you. Problem is in some Muslim countries men tend to abuse this. Instead of taking in another wife to help them with their difficulties ie widows with children, they'll instead marry an 18 year old! And they'll say oh I'm following sunnah! 😂
@ovaiszohan3766
@ovaiszohan3766 3 жыл бұрын
Got dissappointed from many scholars on this issue..... But i never get dissappointed by the ideas of Dr shabbir aly.... ✌️✌️.. Perfect answer
@weshouldsaveourselves6780
@weshouldsaveourselves6780 3 жыл бұрын
Assalamu alaykum. Dr Shabbir has said that homosexuals should have rights and that they are to be allowed. He has also said that drawing animate beings is okay. He is a deviant person. Please don't follow him.
@ovaiszohan3766
@ovaiszohan3766 3 жыл бұрын
@@weshouldsaveourselves6780 lol🤣🤣🤣... But that's what Islam says..... Go and get a life.... Extremist fanatics!
@weshouldsaveourselves6780
@weshouldsaveourselves6780 3 жыл бұрын
@@ovaiszohan3766 give me a verse that supports the acception of homosexuals or any of the LGBTQ.
@alphahelixx
@alphahelixx Жыл бұрын
@@weshouldsaveourselves6780 Give the verse where it says they should not be allowed
@weshouldsaveourselves6780
@weshouldsaveourselves6780 Жыл бұрын
@@alphahelixx We also (sent) Lut: he said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? "For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." - Holy Quran 7:80-81 "Of all the creatures in the world will ye approach males". "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!" - Holy Quran 26:165-166 The end result for not giving up homosexuality was the destruction of entire cities When Our decree issued We turned (the cities) upside down and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay spread layer on layer Marked as from thy Lord: nor are they ever far from those who do wrong! - Holy Quran 11:82-83
@theunknown-uv5ck
@theunknown-uv5ck 3 жыл бұрын
The reasons for which Polygamy was made Halal in Islam in the days of our Prophet (pbuh) is obsolete now-the protection of widows and orphan children who lost their family member in war, and supporting them. We are told repeatedly men can marry four, but what about the Hadith where our Prophet told Ali (RA) not to marry again without divorcing Fatema (RA). He saw his daughter being so dishearted. Later that marriage was cancelled.
@afia9641
@afia9641 Жыл бұрын
Why did Muhammad practice polygamy himself?? He didnt want his own daughter to be hurt but didnt care about someone elses daughter who was getting hurt.
@alphahelixx
@alphahelixx Жыл бұрын
@@afia9641 Very valid question and this is where Muslims are brainwashed. They claim that Muhammad (SW) was perfect but he was not. He was human so he made mistakes and did injustices. Many verses in the Qur'an are stories and many actions of the Muhammad (SW) were also how he lived his life and not prescribing men to do so. For example, many verses Allah tells the Sahabah how to fight war. Why aren't Muslim men taking this as being prescribed? Well, because they are innovators. Keep asking questions.
@afia9641
@afia9641 Жыл бұрын
@@alphahelixx Well, Muhammad had slave women (Marlia Al Qibtiya was one of them) she bore him a son Ibrahim. .He didnt set a good example for rest of men to follow by having multiple sexual partners (so called wives). If it was a common practice to have multiple wives , Muhammad was NOT a common man. He was supposed to be a role model. How come a role model do that? Quran verses like 33:50 raises sooooooo many questions and concerns and I was never able to get convincing answers for those.
@usamasohail3294
@usamasohail3294 Жыл бұрын
Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wasallam is best..no matter what others bark.. Prophet Muhammad not deny hazrat ali to marry second.. He only give advice to ali..
@account_nameonline6420
@account_nameonline6420 6 жыл бұрын
The issue is muslims can’t just take outdated traditions from the Quran - he said it best when he said women are disadvantaged in such marriages
@anonymousanonymous-iq3fz
@anonymousanonymous-iq3fz 6 жыл бұрын
account_name_online online How could a women have 4 husband's and please all of them it's much harder for a women to be a wife of 4 men at the same time
@account_nameonline6420
@account_nameonline6420 6 жыл бұрын
Neither of those situations pleases anyone - that's why they are not a good idea
@anonymousanonymous-iq3fz
@anonymousanonymous-iq3fz 6 жыл бұрын
account_name_online online So if these situations aren't good for any one how comes men have more than one wife and Thier wife's are happy about it
@account_nameonline6420
@account_nameonline6420 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are women in relationships with lots of men and all state they are happy too...but generally speaking its just a bad idea all around for lots of reasons
@anonymousanonymous-iq3fz
@anonymousanonymous-iq3fz 6 жыл бұрын
account_name_online online That's ur opinion . Don't act like u know what's best for everyone
@mizalamizala2317
@mizalamizala2317 6 жыл бұрын
Dr.Shabir is a modern,well educated scholar and some people have hard time digesting it, at least that's the sense I got reading dome of the comments.
@Tightness8
@Tightness8 6 жыл бұрын
The quran is supposed to be the final revelation for all humanity until the end of time, not a convenient solution to whatever situation mohammed was in LOL
@hiramuzaffer9579
@hiramuzaffer9579 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tightness8 it is divine. the interpretation has to be based on the circumstances. How do you know why or when a verse was revealed?? Allah categorically stated in the QUR'AN DON'T PICK THINGS out of context. And that is what people do n think of themselves as intellectuals. I'll give you an example. I can't just assume that all historical kings just invaded lands/ people went against rulers based on what they did in i have to out in effort to know why something was done. When you are to take a lesson from history you have to analyze the entire situation, i.e when n what caused a certain decision to be taken. That is why dr shabirs approach resonates with people who think! I hope this helps
@ef2883
@ef2883 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tightness8 the Quran can be used for any situation by taking it as something akin to a legal precedent in modern law, (aka "casuistry", you can read up about it). This applies to all religious texts actually if you read into them. Although that solution applied at the time, it still applies today I would argue, for example wars still occur in which men are the majority of victims.
@yadhilopez8929
@yadhilopez8929 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Christian and I'm in love with a Muslim Men. He knows that I will never accept he takes a second wife. It will be a divorce and I will sue him in Courts and spousal support through my life. I love him dearly, but I love myself more and I will not tolerate it. This is the only thing from Quran I completely disagree. I wish it can be changed or modify to modern times. I like your explanation. It made sense to the times Quran was written. It does not apply to modern times anymore that only verse of Quran.
@themercifulguard3971
@themercifulguard3971 3 жыл бұрын
You have the right to ask him to never take another wife A real Muslim man should take his wife’s pleasure and feelings into account
@explodinggaming1893
@explodinggaming1893 3 жыл бұрын
@@themercifulguard3971 no she doesnt have the right to say no, there is no evidence saying man should take into their wives feeling since back then its normal, the real muslim man follows whats here and not what he feels but yes it is suggested to ask
@explodinggaming1893
@explodinggaming1893 3 жыл бұрын
No this is not like christianity or judaism where they altered their own scripture to fit their desire, thats why its filled with contradiction. quran is timeless from the time it was recited until the end of time, it will not change, "modern" is subjective, hypotatically another society like africa allows polygamy and they dont have limits.
@themercifulguard3971
@themercifulguard3971 3 жыл бұрын
@@explodinggaming1893 Yes but c'mon man' if she really wants him to herself and he does care about her feelings a lot, it is better to stay with one wife.
@미민튜브
@미민튜브 3 жыл бұрын
@@themercifulguard3971 ab! Polygyny is not obligation.. it is for exceptional situation. And if men really fear Allah, they will not take it lightly. But you need to discuss it before marriage and make it sure. You can add it with your marriage contract.
@Chad123-g3d
@Chad123-g3d 8 жыл бұрын
polygamy is not exclusive to islam it"s in the bible too '' If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish '' exodus 21:10
@markk7569
@markk7569 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it was in the bible (old testament) but now it is looked down upon in the church.
@Chad123-g3d
@Chad123-g3d 7 жыл бұрын
Marky Kyrolos jesus didn't say anything about polygamy so clearly he didn't abolish the laws regarding it, he had something to say about divorce though but that's another topic
@markk7569
@markk7569 7 жыл бұрын
The church just sees it as one man and one women and now its looked down upon now in the churches. I never said jesus abolished it i just said in the new testament it became more apparent that polygamy was starting to stop Rubert max
@Chad123-g3d
@Chad123-g3d 7 жыл бұрын
Marky Kyrolos sorry but that's man made laws, you can't simply dismiss the old testament unless jesus mentioned something specific about it
@markk7569
@markk7569 7 жыл бұрын
God said marrage is for One man and one Women, the only reason polygamy was permitted was because they were alot of women who needed protection etc.. Polygamy was for that time but the circumstances arent the same anymore. Its not man made we are actually quoting the bible. So now its simply looked down upon.
@hnadwi
@hnadwi 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis by Br Shabir Just to point out that (7:40) it's the same verse that points out marrying one. ''And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].''
@jeethuutube
@jeethuutube 2 жыл бұрын
Its like telling a thief , If you think that you will be caught then don't rob . But if you think that you wont be caught then go ahead and rob. Because being just is a subjective matter for both wife and husband.
@felicial.5992
@felicial.5992 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful for Dr. Shabir, he actually gives you the full picture and then honestly tells you when there is no set answer on something versus drawing a conclusion and presenting it as fact which is what a lot of teachers do in Islam. I do believe that they all mean well but they could end up causing a lot of damage even though they mean well when they don't specify the difference between their personal opinions and what the Quran actually says.
@avinashlalwani1475
@avinashlalwani1475 2 жыл бұрын
He said a whole lot of nothing
@Margaro-l5m
@Margaro-l5m Жыл бұрын
It's real strange that in Islam Muslim men can marry multiple women but Muslim women can't marry multiple men.
@reazrahman1850
@reazrahman1850 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how no youtube commentators (feminist imo) quotes any hadith regarding marriages. Hadith makes it ever clear and no need to argue.
@shaylacloud9751
@shaylacloud9751 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus also states in the Bible that it is right to marry one person commit to one person. I’m not sure where but I know it’s in the apocrypha or the Bible.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 Жыл бұрын
One verse in the Bible speaks on a prophet having 100,000 wives. If you don't follow polygamy, that's fine, but in Islam, it's allowed.
@irfanmomin3416
@irfanmomin3416 5 жыл бұрын
Answer is not clear. In modern era can a Muslim go for second wife as per Islam or is it sinful. Pls specify. Thank you.
@shovon100
@shovon100 5 жыл бұрын
I think, Here normal norm is 1 wife to 1 husband. Quran 4:20 But if you want to replace one wife with another and you have given one of them a great amount [in gifts], do not take [back] from it anything. Would you take it in injustice and manifest sin? if there is a calamity in the society and women orphan are helpless, you can marry them to give shelter. [condition in syria] Quran 4:3 If you fear that you (the society) will not be able to do justice with the orphans, (as may happen in times of war and political turbulence, the government shall announce a state of Emergency), then, in order to accommodate widows and orphans, men of sound finances and character shall be encouraged to marry among these widows with mutual choice; two, three, and four. But, if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly, then, you must not take additional wives. This will be more suitable to prevent you from doing injustice and face financial hardship. so if multiple marriage is done just for pleasure and not for sheltering orphans, poor victim women, this may go against the rule. - Allah knows best.
@inaaranur1611
@inaaranur1611 4 жыл бұрын
Wazza dan no man can treat them equally he will desire love like etc one different from other Always and his burden is then heavy to pay
@MessiWorldCup-th2de
@MessiWorldCup-th2de 7 ай бұрын
Yes he can if he’s equal
@MessiWorldCup-th2de
@MessiWorldCup-th2de 7 ай бұрын
@@inaaranur1611yes he can and it’s allowed as long as u treat them equally financially ur good to go Allah said u can’t treat them equally emotionally u will always love one more which is fine
@neelofar_khan42
@neelofar_khan42 4 жыл бұрын
Aisha: I'm going to ask you a very straightforward question 😊😊 But Dr. Ally explained it very well, I thank him and Aisha for bringing the topic and I know whom I have to forward this video to... 🤭🤭
@gozdea5548
@gozdea5548 6 ай бұрын
so you can only marry "a widow with children" in polygamic relationship and probably only with a widow of a fallen soldier??
@f.g.1641
@f.g.1641 6 жыл бұрын
As to wives it was allowed in the Old Testament Jesus in the New Testament changed such practise Only one husband and one wife
@ahmadabbas8481
@ahmadabbas8481 5 жыл бұрын
With regards to Islam, I totally agree with the content of the video. But can you please state a clear verse were Jesus changed the practice of polygamy as you said? I believe it was Paul who did this and it was ONLY for the bishops. This clearly excludes non bishops which are the majority of the Christian community. 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
@cyberneticsynthetic5750
@cyberneticsynthetic5750 5 жыл бұрын
Nope! Mathew 5:17 do not think that I have come to abolish the law...
@ZM-et7zt
@ZM-et7zt 2 жыл бұрын
It isnt actually written at all in the Bible
@samifikree
@samifikree Жыл бұрын
Not true. It’s says if you fear you will commit the 3 sins then copulate with as many women as you want (because you will sin otherwise against orphans). It’s for sinners not everyone.
@TOPG-xk9gt
@TOPG-xk9gt 2 жыл бұрын
Don't lie it's a lust if it's not true love
@dennisdjy
@dennisdjy Жыл бұрын
How beautiful. Caring for widows and orphans to step in for fallen brothers. Islam done right is so wise. I see it's practicality.
@kmansour7358
@kmansour7358 6 жыл бұрын
I have to defend the view that polygyny is still acceptable practice today as long as on abuse, or coercion involved. 1. In times when women numbers exceed men's, e.g. wars, such practice can be fair even in welfare society. Money alone is not always enough. 2. Most societies, especially western societies, men have multiple relations outnumber men who do not. Considering the second relationship as a marriage would protect women rights and prohibit men from abusing them in a non-committed relationship. This is why multiple relationships in Muslim societies is much less than in western societies. 3. In traditional societies, elders might try marry their vulnerable widowers to a men they trust even if the men are already married as a way to protect the widowers and the children from dangerous strangers. 4. In case of infertile women, a second marriage can a convenient option to all parties. 5. In decent Islamic practice the first wife has the right to prohibit her husband in the marital contract from having a second marriage.
@manalmorsi6527
@manalmorsi6527 6 жыл бұрын
k mansour There is a lot of bullying coersion and deception involved in almost all cases that I have personally seen and I have seen plenty. Most of the time the first wife is clueless and is bullied to agree.
@ESO529
@ESO529 6 жыл бұрын
@k.mansour - I "love" your points ... especially point #4! What do women do in case a man can't produce babies?! If HE can't produce a son?! (As is well established the man is responsible for the gender of the baby) Yet - it's almost always the woman and naturally most men refuse any medical assessment!! ... so let's change her and try out another one ... and another one ... also because they don't "bring the obligatory son".
@CathyKitson
@CathyKitson 5 жыл бұрын
k mansour 1. There are actually more men than women in the world, and this includes war zones. 2. Not all men are adulterous. Those that are looked down upon and women can divorce them. Of course, some women are adulterous, too. 3. What "dangerous strangers" are you talking about? Surely the onus should be on changing these men's behaviour and ensuring women and children have protection from the law. You shouldn't have to marry just for protection! 4. I don't think a second marriage would be "a convenient option" for an infertile woman. It's a true insult. If God had meant a couple to have children, it would have happened. Perhaps the woman should be able to marry again if her husband is infertile. 5. Unfortunately Islam isn't always practised decently. Women often don't have the right to prohibit her husband from marrying again.
@sarahs8976
@sarahs8976 5 жыл бұрын
@@CathyKitson well said.
@lalelu9053
@lalelu9053 5 жыл бұрын
Protect the widows and her children from dangerous strangers ... how can a polygamous husband provide proper protection when he is absent 50 % or even 75 % of the time???????
@786humaira1
@786humaira1 5 жыл бұрын
Some people are ok with Islam in certain aspects , and ehen it comes to sacrifice and share the bounties , like sharing the husband and house with the needy orphans and widows, they have nothing to do with Islam. They will question what God, which quran and what hadees, " i have nothing to do with it".In other words Islam , and God and Quran is believed into as long as it is comfort to them, if not no Islam ,no quran no God. May God guide me and the Muslim umma to the path of the prophets.
@theunknown-uv5ck
@theunknown-uv5ck 3 жыл бұрын
But is her husband really marrying the widows to help them? Is it his intention? Most wealthy polygamist these days marry attractive young women, who are not actually needy.
@786humaira1
@786humaira1 3 жыл бұрын
@@theunknown-uv5ck and I am not talking about them. I am only talking about widows and orphans in need of support.
@Nora-ze3wv
@Nora-ze3wv 2 жыл бұрын
You said it all. Thank you.
@Od.3056
@Od.3056 Жыл бұрын
Brave girls asking challenging questions!
@xtreme6018
@xtreme6018 4 жыл бұрын
It mention in surah 3, verse 3...marry only one.. Its has statement
@nafismubashir2479
@nafismubashir2479 3 жыл бұрын
no it doesn't
@semkimpbell5466
@semkimpbell5466 4 жыл бұрын
Well explained
@hoodoei1763
@hoodoei1763 4 жыл бұрын
What is exactly well explained? The interviewer asked multiple times if polygany in the context from nowadays and living in the west should be allowed or not. I don't see an answer from the scholar. Do u???
@explodinggaming1893
@explodinggaming1893 3 жыл бұрын
@@hoodoei1763 what the west thinks does not matter, what Allah says matter therefore polygamy allowed for man
@malikmehouchi8418
@malikmehouchi8418 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation.
@hz5844
@hz5844 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, except that he didn’t say if marrying multiple wives WITHOUT any orphans being involved is permitted.
@AshokGupta-oq6hs
@AshokGupta-oq6hs 5 ай бұрын
Sir,to be fair to females polyandry should be allowed.
@danmartin9363
@danmartin9363 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Shabir, If I may ask, do you have only 1 wife or you have many wives? Thank you!
@tinkuroopa2754
@tinkuroopa2754 Жыл бұрын
If you are limiting me to four wives only, then should we leave islam for getting a fifth wife or more. Don't we the right to have more than four wives? As a muslim i am restricted to four wives, but if i leave islam then this restriction won't be on me. So limiting a man's freedom is a loss to Islam.
@sqwop
@sqwop 3 жыл бұрын
The verse starts by saying marry wives in twos, threes and fours BUT if you can't do justice to them marry only one, so by the order it implies to try and marry 2, 3 or 4 first if you can but if you can't marry only one like a last resort kind of thing. Zakir Naik said it's the only religious book that says marry only one but he conveniently leaves out the above, so really most Muslims should have at least two wives. When brother Shabir said about the tribe it made sense why but it doesn't make sense in todays culture and most are not following it which isn't very devout so I asked before if it should've been in Quran if no one seems to adhere to it. Or should it have been said the other way marry only one but if you need to marry 2, 3 or 4. That way most would've done it correctly but it seems it is not so.
@Bd-mq8td
@Bd-mq8td 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the prophet who was a walking book of Quran as narrated by Aisha ra and he was monogamous with Khadijah ra and read about how he was a husband when he was married through the narrations of Aisha ra and how he felt about Khadijah after her death through narrations of Aisha ra Marriage is a lot of work and the prophet put a lot of emphasis on being a good couple and having a good marriage He was polygamous with widows and divorcees to spread Islam and protect them for the last 10 years of his live 3 years (I think) after the death of Khadijah he married again and took Aisha ra for his first wive and after that the other wives You should get an insight of how marriage is and that a proper union and constant work is really important Read about his life emotions and feelings pls thanks
@azrasclinic
@azrasclinic 2 жыл бұрын
one more thing my husbnd has adopted daughters with first wife but now i have his own child but dont take care of his own child more thn adopted girls
@tomn53
@tomn53 5 жыл бұрын
Again this shows people referring to tribal practices which people have clearly passed in society thus proving that the Quran was written by a man for a certain time and not by a god which would be good for all times and places. Nobody needs to have multiple wives anymore and its inherently unfair to women who want multiple husbands.
@tomn53
@tomn53 4 жыл бұрын
Riamun nahk most men if not all would choose a wife who has something to offer not a blind deaf or dumb person
@nisaakhan955
@nisaakhan955 6 жыл бұрын
Before islaam men had any number of wives when islaam came they were restricted to four sura nisaa ayah 3
@MyMaitetxu
@MyMaitetxu 5 жыл бұрын
how progresive I´m impress....
@mua8647
@mua8647 3 жыл бұрын
This man is just awesome in explaining
@salikidrees2968
@salikidrees2968 8 жыл бұрын
Do we have a say when someone is mentioned in the Quran clearly and was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and Sahaba and even the 2nd, 3rd generation and beyond? No we do not. I wish Dr. Shabir had said, "Allah said so, so it is". End of Story. We do not question Allah and do not find excuses or our own interpretations. Why did not not mention that there were men who were married to more than 4 wives. Some of them were married to up to 10 wives. So his logic contradicts because if there were more women at that time because 70 or so were martyred then why restriction for only 4? Prophet Muhammad SAW actually told those Sahaba to keep for and divorce the rest. May Allah guide us to be good strong Muslims and stand up for what Islam is and not sugar coat it to please fellow Humans. Ameen.
@ahrazathar
@ahrazathar 6 жыл бұрын
Salik Idrees well said ...i have seen these type of sugar coatings in this video series...
@roquiamahmoodi965
@roquiamahmoodi965 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, Allah has clearly said it on the case of orphans for the purpose of taking care of them not have multiple wives out of lust. So "yes, it has been said, so it is. End of the SORY" . How many Muslims nowadays marry widows to take care of orphans. In fact, it is frowned upon and people prefer to take multiple wives as virgin and many years younger than them.
@hoodoei1763
@hoodoei1763 4 жыл бұрын
So sheikh is polygany allowed or not in these time and days in the context of living in Canada as a Muslim. Even though the interviewer asked it multiple times, in my opinion there is no specific answer that u gave. Very sad..
@jazzstyles1246
@jazzstyles1246 2 жыл бұрын
Polygamy is definitely not for entertaining. It is only allowed for narrow range of reasons which comes with a lot of conditions and restrictions. Polygamy is not to fulfil the lust, sound reasons only.
@AbdurRahma2024
@AbdurRahma2024 2 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum what other act do women not like in Quran?
@GhulamAbbas-el4pb
@GhulamAbbas-el4pb 3 жыл бұрын
Women obviously not gonna support this at all and plus scholars don’t want to harm their status in the society by sticking to the belief. It’s in Quran and it’s very clear that men are allowed to have 4 wives. There are permissions for many other acts with limitations and guidance so guidance for more than 1 wife is to do justice
@사라-t9g
@사라-t9g 2 жыл бұрын
You need to understand the context. 4 wifes was mentioned but why? isn’t one enough? Islam says be fair as a main point. Don’t ever think 4 wives being permissible if you cannot treat fairly and in this world, even one wife isn’t being treated fairly at many many occasions. Look back at the main reason why the prophet pbuh had to practice it. Moreover, in his 50 years he dedicated his time to Khadija. Only after the widowed women increased in number it became a thing. Again, context matters. Saying it’s permissible freely without context turns men to animals acting on nothing but lust.
@razamughal9095
@razamughal9095 2 жыл бұрын
@@사라-t9g the ONLY reason he never married when with khadijah was because then he was NOT a prophet.
@razamughal9095
@razamughal9095 2 жыл бұрын
@daval husen yes. Of course. In africa today, royal kings have a hundred wives.
@johncrasto1195
@johncrasto1195 Жыл бұрын
Can brother marry his half sister . Or second cousin
@shashankphansikar7094
@shashankphansikar7094 3 жыл бұрын
If you are saying that we cannot apply 20th century rules to a 7th century, then don't use a 7th century book in 20th century
@barriewilliams9824
@barriewilliams9824 3 жыл бұрын
About time women were allowed more than one husband then!
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 2 жыл бұрын
That won't work. Women are created monogamous and since we're the ones that have the babies, it's issues with paternity. Men are polygamous.
@wahlao81
@wahlao81 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Muslim and sura 4:3 proves to me that Muhammad is not a prophet and the quran is not from God because it teaches immorality. But Shabir Ally does a good job of watering it down to make it palatable for our modern western sensibilities. This is my analysis of the sura: Sura 4:3 And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice] Marriage is not the subject matter of this verse or the sura. The treatment of orphans is the subject matter. It is common sense to know that marriage should not be entered into lightly. This verse teaches the opposite as you can simply take a wife from among your slaves (those whom your right hand possesses). The use of these words shows that Mohammad practiced slavery. The manner of speech - “2, 3 or 4 woman” indicates that the narrator is unsure. This is human indecision and not the kind speech that you would expect from an all-knowing God. The Quran does not offer any further explanation why you should have 4 wives (or 6 or 7 or 100). All of history proves that there is no benefits to having more than 1 wife. A healthy family should consists of 1 father and 1 mother. Why would a good God guide his followers on the wrong path? However, it is unsurprising that the Quran doesn’t teach good family values because it came from a man who had 11 wives and a child bride! P.S you don't have to marry someone to do charity
@wahlao81
@wahlao81 4 жыл бұрын
@Inspired by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat you are using circular reasoning. An example of circular reasoning would be saying something like.."Muhd is a prophet because the quran says so and the quran is true because muhd says so." you are arguing using Islamic version of morality so of course there is nothing wrong with having more than 4 wives or a 50+ year old "man of God" having sexual desires for a 6 year old. God gave us a mind to think and imprinted his moral law on our conscience. use what God has given to you to think and discern truth from falsehood
@yusafimran8951
@yusafimran8951 6 жыл бұрын
A muslim man can have four wives, and should not flirt or stare at stranger women period. No personal suggestions please
@abuasmaa9067
@abuasmaa9067 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, nice and simple
@jonezmontenegro3916
@jonezmontenegro3916 4 жыл бұрын
If that's it then I'm gona join Islam, just for women
@KaiStrohscher
@KaiStrohscher 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonezmontenegro3916 I hope you can afford to buy four houses and provide for four households. As a Muslim, I don't marry more than one, because the conditions and responsibilities are too many. I am already struggling everyday to provide for one wife. If I had four, I would be bancrupt.
@xtreme6018
@xtreme6018 4 жыл бұрын
Sabhir is sooo logical
@syedtayyab5142
@syedtayyab5142 3 ай бұрын
what a cop out of an answer and a completely false explanation, trying to fit islamic law into a feminist explanation. have some shame Doc
@godsliberator4973
@godsliberator4973 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic , now I understand Islam has a law for people that take the law of the faith to extreme measure like Smoking hashish which is forbidden by intoxicant. But if I decide to take more then 4 wives based on the war against believers would this be considered out of context and norm in Islam and I would be shunned for it? Again King David and King Solomon are know to have more then 4 wives. But believers have been at war since the fall of Christendom.
@PIANOPHUNGUY
@PIANOPHUNGUY 2 жыл бұрын
Having large families is important to bring Jihad to the Christians and Hindus and Buddhists.
@oromochic1993
@oromochic1993 Жыл бұрын
It should be for the rich now a days 🤷‍♀️
@sayednadaf2180
@sayednadaf2180 3 жыл бұрын
If a man cannot do justice to a woman then he should not marry at all right? Also now in modern society women can be more accomplished and take care of themselves so Allah should have mentioned something more specific because he is someone who knows the future. And also the norms show women weak. The message should have been more proactive to give women more equal rights and make them non dependent on men. If you could clear these doubts that would be great. Thanks.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 2 жыл бұрын
Women are not obligated to work in Islam. Also, when women go out for work, it causes an issue of mixing with men, problems with personal issues, also women are physically weaker than men, so working is not easy. Plus, pregnancy and childbirth. These rules have not changed, so no doubts.
@ce6236
@ce6236 4 жыл бұрын
All have sinned and God will be the judge. Romans 9:15
@nehalhaideransari
@nehalhaideransari 5 жыл бұрын
Thank u .
@johnpin2689
@johnpin2689 4 жыл бұрын
Dr,shabbir is it true that muslims husbands,take their wives to toys r us ,for their anniversary.
@jojoe7433
@jojoe7433 3 жыл бұрын
Masha Allah this sister is quite articulate to communicate the basic yet intricate need for society to practice polygamy. Polygamy is actually of benefit to the individuals the family unit the community and a nation.
@idamaebennett9965
@idamaebennett9965 4 жыл бұрын
Why can t a woman marry up to four husbands men came from the womb of a woman not from the pensis of a man this subject is senseless to me
@SchuelerCool
@SchuelerCool 4 жыл бұрын
You question makes no sense. Are man and woman equal in there nature?
@realmrdanger
@realmrdanger 4 жыл бұрын
How are they going to know who the father is if there's more than 1 man?
@rahma6992
@rahma6992 4 жыл бұрын
@@realmrdanger ma man its 2020, there's this absolutely lovely, splendid and magical thing called 'DNA TESTING'
@CathyKitson
@CathyKitson 4 жыл бұрын
@@SchuelerCool Of course.
@shafiqsha9875
@shafiqsha9875 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't man become mother in natural way? Simple is that
@ahmedabdelkerim9542
@ahmedabdelkerim9542 6 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank Für Idee
@abdul-haiymuhammad8373
@abdul-haiymuhammad8373 3 жыл бұрын
The verse in the Qur'an says a wife. Not wives. At the time, Muhammad had a wife named khadija. Not wives. When khadija passed, he married a wife named Aisha. Not wives. The reason is in the hadith. In the hadith, it does not says "wives", it says "nisaa", which means "women". Can you see? Nisaa means "women". For a husband and wife, it is "azwaj", which is masculine and feminine a refers to a pair and means husband and wife in context. In 2:35 of the Qur'an, it says Adam and his "azwaj". Here it means a pair of masculine and feminine. So it refers to a husband and wife as Nikah. Not wives. Even in 23:6 and 24: 30,31 of the Qur'an, it says to guard you private parts, except your "azwaj" , or what you rightfully possess. Here it means a pair of masculine and feminine, referring to a husband and wife because Nikah means a husband and wife. Not wives. Yet the hadith sees wives in the hadith. So it is incorrect. It is women as Nisaa. A husband and wife is azwaj, which means a pair of masculine and feminine along with Nikah. So together it is a husband and wife. Not wives. As for 4:3 in the Qur'an, the word فَإِنْ in Arabic means "then", or "and" or "for". So it says: Marry what seems suitable to you of the woman, two, three or four "THEN, AND, FOR fear that you cannot due justice then one or what you rightfully possess. There is no "if". So in Islam, One husband and wife is "azwaj", which is a pair of masculine and feminine and together with Nikah means husband and wife. Not wives. Nisaa means women. And Allah knows best.
@ZM-et7zt
@ZM-et7zt 2 жыл бұрын
It is well known that when Khadija passed away, the Prophet married 2 women - Sawda RA and Aisha RA - and after had numerous other marriages at the same time. Every marriage had a purpose, e.g. political ties. No man can marry the same number of wives as the Prophet peace and blessings be upon him.
@abdul-haiymuhammad8373
@abdul-haiymuhammad8373 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZM-et7zt Yes in Qur’an 2:35 and 4:3, it specifically says "YOI CANNOT DUE JUSTICE...."then MARRY ONE". THIS IS IN THE QUR’AN. All by Allah. So it is evident. One man and one wife in the Qur’an. The hadith regarding Aisha with 9 wives is a weak hadith while the QUR’AN by Allah is not corrupt
@razamughal9095
@razamughal9095 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdul-haiymuhammad8373 you dont know what you are talking about, it is COMPULSORY to have a MINIMUM of two wives,
@abdul-haiymuhammad8373
@abdul-haiymuhammad8373 2 жыл бұрын
@@razamughal9095 incorrect. The Qur’an in 2:35 clearly says a wife. Not wives.
@razamughal9095
@razamughal9095 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdul-haiymuhammad8373 RUBBISH. Allah has NOT given your permission to have one wife anywhere.
@786humaira1
@786humaira1 5 жыл бұрын
So the creation of wars in Afghanistan, iraq, Syria and creation by the blood thirsty war mongers , the widows and orphans does calls for help in the well to do families to share it with the less fortunate ones and hope for rewards from Allah for sharing the house and husband, if you can.The rewards may come back to you and your children multifold.
@inaaranur1611
@inaaranur1611 4 жыл бұрын
humaira ali in modern wars many women and children are the victims Not just men
@dr.mohamedalkoly24
@dr.mohamedalkoly24 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with having more than one wife, interestingly nowdays can man have one hundred girlfriend which is considered in Islam as haram and can't have 4 wife which is Halal, unfortunately Muslim scholers cannot answer the question our of fear of the western communities which Zinnah is common routine on life.
@moulikamittapalli9764
@moulikamittapalli9764 Жыл бұрын
Allah is a polygamous God 😂
@bluemass3834
@bluemass3834 3 жыл бұрын
Well, mulla bhai we are not living in "tribes" anymore, with time everything changes. I feel bad for for you women, lol
@razamughal9095
@razamughal9095 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is PERFECT, its laws apply to ALL TIME, hence why in the 21st century it is a GLOBAL SUCCESS.
@joannemercader813
@joannemercader813 8 жыл бұрын
we were taught this as well. I'm a descendant of mormons
@noorahmed5649
@noorahmed5649 5 жыл бұрын
Shabir ali has said that one wife is enough for a man at present time supported by Quranic verses ,but what about Sahabas(companions) 's polygamy as we all know (and established) that Sahabas were the true followers of Prophet .More they not only follow the prophet but also know the better understanding of Quranic verses compared to present scholars.
@serine.r4746
@serine.r4746 4 жыл бұрын
U said it yourself, present times, not old times, countries, not tribes, he said it all.
@Doraemon-gc2lu
@Doraemon-gc2lu 3 жыл бұрын
You are sooo beautiful
@RaZoR7i7
@RaZoR7i7 6 жыл бұрын
Allah told that in Quran i don't need your suggestion if i wanna marry more than one women i will it's my right none of your right
@rahma6992
@rahma6992 4 жыл бұрын
good luck trying to find your first wife anyway.. since i don't think that it's gonna be easy in your case lol
@theharmoniumguy
@theharmoniumguy 4 жыл бұрын
hello cleric, be like Muhammad S.A.W and stay hidden dont talk to women like she is interviewing you lol
@gamelover420
@gamelover420 4 жыл бұрын
With all respect this Shaikh seems to be afraid of what he’s talking about. That’s why he is not able to talk fluently and is holding his speech. This issue is far too deep than simply saying in “Classical Times”...islam is a religion to be practiced forever not in “classical times” it was this and now that we are in Canada where gay marriage is, prostitution, and all other haram is legal.. Halal marriage is now somehow tabu or shame. There are 1000 of legitimate reasons as to why a man should have more than 1 wife. At least as an Islamic scholar 1 should fear Allah (S) and say it clearly. This is what Allah has made permissible for so many reasons and we should submit to his wisdom...
@cemaziyelevvel4524
@cemaziyelevvel4524 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the rationale for polygamy. A man can marry a second wife just for pleasure, but don't the woman's feelings matter? Why did God create the feeling of jealousy in women? This is a very sad state of affairs.
@rpdsouza1957
@rpdsouza1957 5 жыл бұрын
Shabbir ally should have accepted that polygamy exists and accepted in Islam as profart momad had great sexual appetite and had numerous wives and uncountable concubines, status of wives is zero, viewers will be delighted to see you tube videos of learned Islamic scholars such as Dr Nabeel Qureshi Dr Jay Smith Dr David Wood Arabian Prince Sam Shamoun Apostate Prophet Masked Arab Sameer Abdullah Brother Rachid Harris Sultan to understand the importance of practices in Islam and Koran.
@gergehimon2177
@gergehimon2177 3 жыл бұрын
Ah have your cake and eat it to, he's my comic relief , this is a man's world ( reference to a song) let's go by a book , written by man, it's taboo but it's up to the woman putting up with it and not feeling imbarased.
@horscaxyz4603
@horscaxyz4603 6 жыл бұрын
Bible is inspired by God. Koran is eternal and dictated by angel Gabriel. We cannot attribute it to nomadic societies as it is dictated by God. So polygamy approved by God. Foolish answer. David and Solomon are Kings of Israel. Not biblical prophets. Even David was punished by god
@jazzstyles1246
@jazzstyles1246 2 жыл бұрын
People throw in comments like as if polygamy is the norm. No! Monogamy is the norm and polygamy is a sensitive right which comes with many restrictions and narrow range of reasons to make it valid. It is not for entertainment.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 2 жыл бұрын
True. Have no issue with it. Well, today, I thought about it and got a little stressed. But, if I get married and he married another, I understand. I can't let this affect me.
@mo8144
@mo8144 3 жыл бұрын
If you don’t know something, ask those who know . We shouldn’t used small intellectual thinking to answer questions we don’t know the answer. That leads to mal interpretation. May Allah guide us all
@Thatdesertwife
@Thatdesertwife 4 жыл бұрын
78:8 "And we created you in pairs" What other proof is needed? Look in ur drawer. U might see 3 forks and 1 knife but the knife can only be used with one fork at the time. Not all 3 cus even those two things only work in pairs and there is a reason for that. A clever man would never be foolish enough to think that he can treat two women equal. Its simply not possible
@xcouscousxlive4003
@xcouscousxlive4003 3 жыл бұрын
So you are calling the Prophet Muhammad pbuh, “not a clever man”? He had multiple wives.
@xcouscousxlive4003
@xcouscousxlive4003 3 жыл бұрын
@@amalmohamed8357 I hava never compared myself to the prophet. Polygamy is allowed for muslim men. The one who is capable can do it. Polygamy is the right of a muslim man. So do not make haram what Allah made Halal.
@xcouscousxlive4003
@xcouscousxlive4003 3 жыл бұрын
@@amalmohamed8357 you are clearly very uneducated on this topic. Your opnion about whether you find it applicable in this society or not is not relevant. There are men that have a lot of sexual desire and one wife can not fulfil that for them, those men are even recommended to mary another one by great scholars. Furthermore it is a right of a man to marry more than one wife, what you said is totally false. If there is a man in modern day that has the facilities and is capable of marrying multiple women for any reason he likes. No muslim would stop him from doing so. It is his right to do it.
@potato0269
@potato0269 3 жыл бұрын
@@xcouscousxlive4003 the wife can stipulate that he cant in the marriage contract and then he cant or it annuls the marriage :)
@xcouscousxlive4003
@xcouscousxlive4003 3 жыл бұрын
@@potato0269 true
@trevinowens70
@trevinowens70 2 жыл бұрын
Is Polygamy healthy for the women that is the question. Sounds very stressful to the women. A women should have her own husband and a husband his own wife.
@KenanRaptor
@KenanRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Today sure but back then when a women becomes a widow at age 20 with 4 children she have no one who can take care of them. That is why our prophet (sav) married more then one women.
@trevinowens70
@trevinowens70 2 жыл бұрын
@@KenanRaptor You could say the same the for today. But a woman to have to wait her turn to be love? That not real love. You basically becoming second and third. Polygamy is against the Bible. God said one wife!! He makes it clear in genesis. Although man do what they want and king Solomon is not a prophet he a king and all kings want to have more than one wife.
@Hotlmao
@Hotlmao Жыл бұрын
Most likely no
@darnellharrison3883
@darnellharrison3883 Жыл бұрын
How?
@huseyinsalis9391
@huseyinsalis9391 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a selfish comment. There are 8 million women more than men in US. There are lots of widowed women with little child who struggles to live a decent life. And also, these women are almost bullied by Muslim married women just in case their husband can propose to her as a second wife. I know lots of Muslim widow who are slowly distanced from Muslim societies. Is this the way it should be?
@nickah1
@nickah1 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video, but there’s one major issue that wasn’t talked about which is the issue of whether or not it’s moral or immoral to marry more than one wife in a country that doesn’t legally recognize polygamy. This is important because wives two and on won’t be legally recognized as being married, so they’ll be relegated to a second class status within the legal system and within that marriage. And if wives 2 and on are regulated to a second class status then they’re not being treated fairly, which goes against the Quran commanding husbands to treat their wives fairly. It shouldn’t be permissible to marry more than one person in a country that has made it illegal to marry more than one person.
@QuranSpeaks
@QuranSpeaks 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing these insights. Dr. Shabir agrees with you!
@MrAfzalaziz
@MrAfzalaziz 3 жыл бұрын
From the Quranic and Islamic teachings one should first respect the law of the land. In your context, there is no way polygamy is allowed.
@asmaabdullah5481
@asmaabdullah5481 10 ай бұрын
Now the time has changed so muslim men should take care of his first wife properly then his mother and sister and his children but men even cannot able to care of his blood relatives and don't have money for his childrens education...i don't know why men doesn't have proper knowledge of the consequences of todays time💔
@alinaseer363
@alinaseer363 Жыл бұрын
Dr Shabbir. You kinda sugarcoated the whole topic. I know inside you want multiple wives. But I notice our scholars are also falling into this western politically correct line of thinking. Mostly women from India Pakistan etc are vehemently opposed to multiple marriage. Arabs have no issue. Ultimately did the prophet have multiple wives. If so then his ummah can also.
@brucesims3228
@brucesims3228 5 жыл бұрын
I am so very glad to hear a respected Islamic scholar affirm that multiple wives is an arrangement meant to protect women and their children for those who have resources sufficient to accomplish this. Way too much is made of this arrangement from the standpoint of toxic Male behavior. No arrangement is a blessing if it's not done with honor.
@dr_logical_b3a5t63
@dr_logical_b3a5t63 11 ай бұрын
He isn't a scholar
@joanarcher9860
@joanarcher9860 10 ай бұрын
Sorry I strongly disagree, an abdominal practice to suit men. You can support people without having marriage.
@ESO529
@ESO529 6 жыл бұрын
Although I'm not adhering to any institutionalized religion I love to listen to the explanations of Dr. Shabir. He stands out amongst all those fundamentalists and "know it all" (and better). I know that what he says upsets a lot of men who take the verses in their Qur'an as a cover to seek after a while a younger wife - which was never the idea of the verses in the first place. I know of a few cases where the men even openly say that she has become old ... so disgusting! As if a wife (or a husband for that matter) is like an old suit or dress which after a while needs replacement!! On a lighter note: I'll never understand why men insist in having multiple headaches (= marriages). One headache = wife should be enough, no?? LOL
@mariapierre7393
@mariapierre7393 5 жыл бұрын
You're not muslim so why do you feel the need to give your opinion on how muslims should live their lives.
@786humaira1
@786humaira1 5 жыл бұрын
A life partner sometimes can be headache that is true,however it applies equally to both parties,headaches ,pain and pleasure are both spices of life. Pains and its taste will sometimes is the greatest .otivator to move ahead and do good for self and society.pleasure too is good for the time being but it can erode too if not handled right.
@Dai_rui
@Dai_rui 4 жыл бұрын
Multiple wives multiple children, increase population, what else?
@labigashi8327
@labigashi8327 4 жыл бұрын
U mus be a woman :) Still better than cheating.
@ESO529
@ESO529 4 жыл бұрын
@@mariapierre7393 You'd be well advised to read my comment carefully and comprehend what I'm saying rather than spouting nonsense coz you obviously just hit the keyboard without further thinking.
@HamidA-to8vy
@HamidA-to8vy 2 жыл бұрын
It is known that numbers of males and females are very close, thus polygamy is not possible as common practice. Also, it is known that Imam Ali wanted to have another wife, so his wife, Fatima daughter of the prophet, objected and the prophet Mohamed peace upon him supported her. generally speaking, Islam aims to protect the rights of the children , the family. thus, any relationship that does not cause harm can be legitimate.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 2 жыл бұрын
The wife is not allowed to object to this ruling and she must be willing to comply. However, she can forbid him from taking another wife in the marriage contract. Remember: doing what's best matters.
@alphahelixx
@alphahelixx Жыл бұрын
@@shimmer4771 This is not true. This is an innovation. A man marrying an additional wife is depriving the first of her sexual needs. If he takes the second wife, the first wife who I am assuming is a normal sexually functioning human being, will be deprived of her sexual desires and pleasures and will may resort to adultery, masturbation, etc.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 Жыл бұрын
@@alphahelixx No, it's not an innovation. In the Quran, Allah mentions polygamy. However, in Ch. The Women, that's the only chapter polygamy is mentioned. "1, or 2, or 3,"... ..."but if you fear you cannot deal with them justly, then marry only 1." Quran. There are several conditions that must be met. He has to support them financially and divide his time equally for them. The wives do not have to live together. He isn't permitted to take a second wife if he can't treat them fairly. Men's sexual desire is stronger than women's. It's not taking away from her. The wife is not allowed to object to this ruling of a husband being allowed to take a second wife. 3. The reward a woman gets for bearing it with patience is huge. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said, "Allah has decreed jealousy on women and jihad on men. Whoever bears that with patience seeking their reward will receive it without reckoning." So, think of the female equivalent of that, which is polygamy. It's a test. It benefits society. There's almost always more women than men. Polygamy helps solve this.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 Жыл бұрын
@Maryam No. The scholar said the wife cannot object to her husband taking a second wife (she can state in her marriage contract that he is not allowed to take a second wife), but polygamy isn't a valid reason for divorce.
@HamidA-to8vy
@HamidA-to8vy Жыл бұрын
@MaryamA woman can ask for a divorce, and she could compensate the husband for that, it is known as “khula” . As far as I know, the courts in Middle East do that. So practically, woman cannot be forced to accept polygamy
@kamerun1
@kamerun1 2 жыл бұрын
Marry 1 woman. It is impossible or near impossible to do justice and love equally 2,3 or 4 women
@mohamudahmed6554
@mohamudahmed6554 2 жыл бұрын
It's not, that is why Allah allowed 1-4 wives. If claim to be a Muslim, delete this comment. If you are not a Muslim, keep your opinions to yourself. We want objective reason to why you think X is impossible.
@sirnawaz
@sirnawaz 4 жыл бұрын
Nice talk. Thanks for sharing. One request though: it'd be good if the verses being discussed is shown on the screen during that timestamp.. the verse numbers (not the text) would be enough, then people can look for them on the google. That'd be a great help. Thanks. :-)
@affirmationalchemy-
@affirmationalchemy- 3 ай бұрын
Very good content
@mikechristian-vn1le
@mikechristian-vn1le 3 ай бұрын
Regarding Solomon perhaps literally having 1000 wives, the recent late king of Swaziland, a nation in southern Africa, had over 900 wives.
@joebloggs1317
@joebloggs1317 2 жыл бұрын
The need to have extra children, especially boys, to grow and protect the tribe I understand. But this was in history, surely in today's society it would make more sense to reverse the situation and for women to be able to have multiple husbands to help provide for the children.
@alphahelixx
@alphahelixx Жыл бұрын
Excellent rationale
@nobey1kanobey
@nobey1kanobey Жыл бұрын
Hilarious
@aliyusuf2386
@aliyusuf2386 4 ай бұрын
For the people saying:- some men cant ever do justice to one wife or one wife is good etc please dont put your nose were it does not belong. Its Allah who knows what is good or bad. If you are a muslim and believe its wrong for a man to have more than one wife you have to repent. You can not make Haram what is halal.
@weshouldsaveourselves6780
@weshouldsaveourselves6780 3 жыл бұрын
Basically it's permissible to do polygamy. There are criteria to do this. It is not haram as some "Muslims" say. The prophet did it peace be upon him. Allah the almighty allowed it.
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