Pool Lesson: Natural Roll Of The Cue Ball With A Center Ball Hit

What's up everybody?!? In today's video we are discussing how and where the cue ball will naturally roll from a center ball hit.
Enjoy!
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[@gagehorton6110]

My man, thank you for talking slow and being very clear

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[@seanhannon4669]

Wow you really explain this well .. thanks..

[@oneofthem7992]

A wonderful lesson. time saving. thanks sir. keep it up ...

[@allgood6760]

Good explanation.. you are factoring in more than one thing.. slide and not slide of cue ball👍

[@topgunbass]

This is just what I was looking for. I never really knew where the cue ball would go. This explained it very well. Thanks. Your videos have been improving my game.

[@dannyuttam8693]

Good coaching

[@freedombackpackers2569]

set your camera to manual focus so it doesnt keep trying to focus which causes random blurring. Manual focus would work since your focused on the table and there arnt to many angles or distances changes.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

I'll give that a try. Thanks for the suggestion!

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[@zanethind]

Nice intro

[@TheMrvinnyf]

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[@DeeEll86442]

Hi Chris, I would love it if you went into this subject a little further. You showed us the natural roll of the ball with top spin but what if it had bottom spin? You showed the shot into the corner and side pocket but there is one shot that everyone I know has trouble with, and that’s when your object ball is on the center shot at the end of the table and your cue ball is in the center of the table at the other end. If you put your object ball in the corner pocket, your cue ball will scratch in the other pocket. What’s the best way to avoid the scratch on that shot? Many will do a bank shot to avoid the scratch on that same shot, however, if you miss then you will usually leave a good shot in the corner for your opponent. How do I avoid this?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

I believe I covered a shot like you're describing in my "Spot Shot Challenge" video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZTEf36Vq7iGrNE

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[@xjcrossx]

Great video, best explanation of the tangent line i've seen. I've heard numerous people say the tangent line is the line "from the center of the ghost ball perpendicular to the object ball", but no one ever say the line is at "a 90 degree angle from the path of the object ball." So much easier to see a line of the path of a ball then try to find the center of a ghost ball. It just clicked after watching this. So, thank you! Question.. would the routine be, when lining up for a cut shot, to visualize the tangent line, determine if that is a good path, whether it be to not scratch or to get position, then play top or bottom English to adjust that path if need be? And is it possible for the cue ball to be sliding more than one foot? Such as the length of a table, or would you just on some shots plan for the cue ball to be rolling forward which would adjust the tangent line forward? Sorry for the long question / comment, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[@battlefieldclips7013]

xlxcrossxlx if u play backspin on a cue ball 🎾 on a long distance object ball 🎱, by the time the cue ball reaches the object ball it loses all the backspin n then slides for moment n starts rolling forward naturally. So just by controlling the amount of backspin on the cue ball, u can make it hit the object ball at sliding speed or rolling speed.

[@jessieshores4865]

There is a reason the ghost ball is used to explain this, as the latter explanation leads to poor aiming. It is important that you know both the angle the ball will travel AND where the ball is starting from. As a ball traveling the same angle from two different starting points will get very different results. If someone aims their position play with the right angle, but measures that angle from the location of the object ball INSTEAD of from the position the cue ball will be in at contact (ghost ball) they will be off a large margin. It's a game of inches after all, so it is imperative to not only understand tangents, but to apply them from the origin of the ghost ball. As for the question. That's a complicated one. If you strike an object ball with a cue ball that has spin on it, it will indeed affect the trajectory. That said, the amount of spin(how high or low you strike the cue), distance, and speed of the shot are big variables. The friction of the cloth will deteriorate the spin as it travels. For greater distances you can increase some combination of speed or spin to compensate for this. You can make the ball not slide at all, with very slow high top spin shots, or you could make it slide the full length of a 12 foot table with high speed high bottom spin shots. If you want to perfectly follow the tangent line your cue ball must be sliding when it strikes the object. That said, the same way that the follow on a straight shot from a center hit is not that much, cutting an object ball with a ball that is rolling naturally forward wont throw you off much. In my experience what you should do is change your thinking. Instead of thinking of stop as the middle, and spin as the two extremes, think of a running cue ball(center hit) as the baseline. Learn how your ball moves without manipulation. Once you can see that it becomes a great deal easier to determine how to alter it's path. Get a measles ball or practice with a stripe ball so you can see the spin, and practice straight in stop shots at 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 feet. You can practice altering the speed of the shot first, and then try doing the same drill with similar speeds, but altering how low you hit the ball. Then combine them. This will really help with understanding how those two variables affect slide, and the measle/stripe will let you see the transition from backspin to natural roll. Gluck :)

[@marioedwin311]

I like your videos and I'm a subscriber... can you leave the object ball un touched and just move the cue ball for all examples

[@harrymundy5393]

The two lesson I used banks and follow thru my center hits were Low. Middle High I did put some low draw but still c/b

[@scottphillips5777]

Great videos!!

[@earlcrumpe3609]

Great videos I learn something all the time but can you give me you video on bank shots an how to measure them I would appreciate it

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

earl crumpe I have a 1 rail bank & kick video on my channel.

[@sdepountis]

So is that irrespective of the angle? Wouldn't the "amount" of contact affect the tangent line?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Only if the cue ball is sliding, rolling forward, or rolling backwards is the tangent line affected. The amount of contact does not affect the tangent line.

[@planetscore]

The foot surely depends on your speed of your stroke, no?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Yes, if you hit softer the cue ball will start rolling sooner.

[@hiepga8498]

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[@chemmii]

Then it would be true if you hit the ball center "harder" that it would then slide further? Say on a long shot?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Yes, it would slide a little farther than a foot, but only by a few inches.

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[@warmetalspelipurnukka9157]

"Having trouble figuring out where the cue ball naturally goes?" Well no, but I watched it anyway it's good content

[@BUDDYBUDDD]

Lil chris i could teach you something on the pool table

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Tiffany Robinson Oh yeah? 😉

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I have my money on chris

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[@ricklane9590]

Again, another excellent excellent explanation of a difficult concept. Thanks for your instruction. 7:46

[@cecilfreeman6147]

Very good technical info. Thanks again

[@errolwirasinghe]

Excellent explanation!! I watched many videos on Pool lessons. This is so insightful. Thanks again.

[@temesgengetachew4162]

MY answer to your question Mr. Lil' Chris @ 3:36 is " all my life time"

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

LOL! Haven't we all?!? 😉

[@MidwestBen101]

what about if the cue ball is right next to the ball your hitting i always scratch that way

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

If you're describing a straight on shot, then you're most likely fouling by double hitting the cue ball. This would cause the cue ball to follow after the object roughly at the same speed.

[@LaMarBias]

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[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

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[@jimliadis4746]

Very nicely explained

[@cz1mmt]

A rolling cue ball does not have to slide first as it takes the path of least resistance. Striking the cue ball roughly 2/5ths above center creates a rolling ball from the get go. No real offence to the author his geometry is off. On the corner demo while he believes he is striking the middle he is not striking through the middle plane but below on the opposite side creating back spin and false natural 90° angle as he did not take into consideration his approach angle was not 180°.

[@theoldgreenbaizecom-fd2zp]

A stun shot (or one sliding because its hit with pace) will always go off at 90 degrees a (L) shape - white and OB (but it depends how you hit when hit it with no bottom top or side (or English) )and roughly 30 degrees when hit softly in the rolling shot as you say which a (V) shape kind of contact its a rough guide. It is basic geometry that can help you with the positional aspect. I never really thought about this before in this way I just did it but yep breaking it down you are correct. Again - well explained and demonstrated.

[@erickort1987]

nice tips lil chris

[@boomshanka9078]

Thanks for the reminder. I been playin careless lately and scratching often.

[@veyomiranda9154]

This is bs..its all relative,u dont learn pool these way..if u want to become dumb..follow him

[@dannyuttam8693]

Good explanation

[@FrankFinance]

I have always wondered why sometimes I scratch on what appear very similar situations. This was super helpful!

[@klledbetter]

Great video!

[@yabuorthodox7788]

Very help full

[@scottfromla]

Lil' Chris Rocks! I enjoyed this one very much. Playing pool for many moons, and will practice tangent line tonight. Then kick my friends ass in a friendly game of 8 Ball :)

[@stevemarion9591]

You explain things very easy to understand! Make more videos!

[@AjayVerma-kk5ib]

BEST EXPLANATION I HAVE EVER READ ..SIMPLE AND TO THE POINT .. KEEP IT UP LIL

[@mikerichards6311]

👍

[@zanethind]

What cue are you using?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

In this video, I was my Schon STL-17

[@michaelwatson8350]

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[@rickwilliams3515]

I enjoy your videos and always learn something .Thank you for helping others improve!

[@billmankin6204]

Great video Chris! Thanks very much, as I have said before, I use your videos for instruction for teammate coaching - one thing I would like to add, the reason it is hard to see, is that draw/follow spin effects take VERY little time to affect the cue ball. Most dissipate very soon after contact, so it is useful when teaching to treat them as near point effects. for instance, the shot you demonstrated about the side pocket hit after the incomplete skid shot, the ball appears to travel in a straight line, so it can be difficult for inexperienced players to grasp. You show an exaggerated line, good demonstration of the effect, but if you watch the video, the actual line is very different.

[@BobPrivacy]

For us foreigners: 1ft = 30,48cm

[@jessieshores4865]

Just so we are clear, the shot at 3:23 had high English on it. Your stroke had an upward motion on it. :\

[@rcsmith6480]

As a beginner in jumping, you gave some valuable advice. Thanks for the information.

[@karandeodatt3205]

Yo Your video make me improve in my game . .I find it help full

[@wernerzegers7029]

Hi Chris, thank you for this nicely explained video about the natural roll of the cue ball.

[@Poe-007]

Thanks Chris. You have me binge watching all your videos. Mostly controlling the cue ball and banking... this helps a lot.

[@jeffrey5966]

So, if the cue ball strikes the object ball while sliding, it comes off at a 90 degree angle. But if the cue ball strikes the object ball while rolling forward, the cue ball will come off at a sharper angle like 80 degrees?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

It’s depends on how much/fast it’s rolling forward. I have a top spin video that explains that.

[@rodneyjaynes2485]

I have to ask, what about table conditions? Does this "rule" still apply? I played in a league where one team (all the officers and the best players) always used Pledge furniture polish on the table before league play. It cleaned the table and made it super fast.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

I specifically said that, “On average, depending on the conditions of the table, the cue ball will slide about a foot” I imagine that this is only slightly altered by table conditions. Slicker conditions, like you describe will most likely allow the cue ball to slide a little farther than a foot before it starts rolling. Rougher conditions, will probably allow the cue ball to slide a little less. This would all be because of friction between the cue ball and the table. Hope that helps!

[@tomfisher3117]

Excellent video. Thank you!

[@robertcomponation7209]

I think it would be beneficial to all of us new players if we saw where you were hitting the cue ball.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

This video is nothing but center cue ball hits to show it's natural roll. I have plenty of other videos on my channel where I indicate where I'm hitting with a cue ball image, or while wearing a GoPro.

[@shader26]

Great info here! Makes me wonder though, is the same thing happening on the object ball when the cue ball hits it? Is the object ball sliding at first, then rolling in the same rotation the cue ball was (and not opposite as it would if it were gears) I think it must be because otherwise the normal rotation would make the object spin opposite, but that doesn’t happen. Also am wondering what the range (soft hit = 6” or less slide? Hard hit maybe 1.5’ ?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

The object ball will only slide briefly if the cue ball slides into it. If the cue ball is spinning in any way as contact is made, then then opposite spin is thrown onto the object ball.

[@shader26]

@@LilChrisPoolPlayer Thanks! I’ve been shooting pool since I was 12 or so, and am in my sixties. Never near your level, more of I played with finesse, best my friends, most often win the table and kept it for a while in bars...I’m sure you know the level I mean. I could run the table, now and then, but mostly used only back English and forward, and mostly did my planning using as little as possible and positioning by how hard I hit. Never had lessons, and your videos are great for me. Of course, it’s messing me up in the short run heh..but I’m starting to get the oddities I learned about naturally, now I see why and what caused and now to use that. Looking forward to putting this to use! Thanks!

[@joshrosado311]

Can you teach how to hit the ball

[@darinkravik6851]

great pool vedio keep up the great job my frd.

[@mikeoakleaf8424]

Hello Chris hey just wanted to say that your videos are helping me a lot. Some day I hope to be half as good as Efron. Maybe even win some tournaments.

[@MVRosie]

So if you hit it harder does it slide longer before rolling?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

The limit to a sliding cue ball is roughly a foot, depending on table conditions.

[@GarrethandPipa]

you did kinda point to the 30 & 90 rules. But the cue ball will always move across the aiming line. While the 30 90 degree rules manipulate this basic law. Great vid nonetheless also love the corner shot scratch in the side. I have been asked so many times how did someone scratch off that same shot.

[@andy148]

In Australia most white balls are slightly smaller than the object balls. Does this change the natural roll?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

From the cue ball alone, no the natural roll doesn't really change. Since it's smaller, it might weigh less that what we use in America and it may or may not slide a little farther before rolling. For the most part, the natural should still be the same.

[@andy148]

@@LilChrisPoolPlayer Thanks man. Looking forward to more videos

[@tedcontreras9729]

Great videos,I was wondering if you have done a video on long rail cut shots?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Thanks for the compliment! I have not yet done a video on long rail cut shots, but can definitely work on one in the future.

[@blueblood5297]

Good video apart from camera angles are shocking very hard to follow if you get someone or something to hold the camera foot above and a. Foot in front of the object ball you will see the slide and the angle it's coming off perfectly. Keep up the good work PS me and my friend often speak about using a GoPro on our head so we can see if we are hitting perfectly or not might be a cool way to demonstrate some shots

[@randychannelrandychannel2325]

Elementary lesson

[@curtsheldon5320]

What about the speed? When hitting the cue ball real soft and your within 1 foot of tje object ball, will the cue ball still slide?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Yes, even with a softer hit the cue ball will still slide, but it will start to roll forward sooner within 1 foot of the object ball.

[@jefftsylor8070]

brilliant

[@pierreluc9366]

Thank you for your video. I recently discover your videos and they are really useful. I'll keep watching and practice.

[@thenit]

Thanks bud.. this was really great.. looking forward to more vids from you.. !!

[@goatmcbuffkins8242]

Great vid! Learn something new!

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

Awesome!

[@philip7825]

Great video, Lil' Chris! You left me confused also. Why would a cue ball stop when hitting an object ball far from it and at the mouth of a pocket? I strike the cue ball hard in the middle to avoid scratching. Or perhaps I actually do something else and don't know it.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

If there is distance between the cue ball and object (over a foot), and the cue ball stops on contact, then chances are you actually struck the cue ball below center. This causes the cue ball to spin backwards and before the cue ball contacts the object ball, the back spin dies out and the cue ball slides into the object ball causing it to stop on contact.

[@DeeMoback]

all of this is dependent on weight of cue ball and certainly the type of cloth..... yup

[@blueblood5297]

The weight isnt going to make it go in a different angle the weight of what you hit it will and the clothes shouldn't make any changes apart from speed unless you have rips in it

[@DeeMoback]

@@blueblood5297 you have had a dream..... if you are real quiet people won't know that you don't know anything

[@blueblood5297]

@@DeeMoback coming from a flog like you what thinks the ball and the clothes are going to make it do different shit hahah classic princess takes your shoes off you will have to hit from a different angle as well

[@DeeMoback]

@@blueblood5297 son.... you have no idea who you are talking to... and with me being who I was and am I don't worry who the hell you are... if you knew who you were trying to argue with you would realize that you are looking real foolish right about now.... have a nice day

[@DeeMoback]

@@blueblood5297 while we are talking about this let me say that the angles change depending on how dirty or clean the balls are.....humidity....as well as WHAT KIND OF BALLS you are using.....and what size the cue ball is

[@newsnebraska2392]

Great video, great knowledge. Thanks

[@erickort1987]

chris,great tips,whats the tip of banking the object ball 3 times across the side pocket,it seems difficult to do

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

It’s sounds like you’re asking about a trick shot? Otherwise, I’m not sure why you would bank a ball 3 times across the side rails.

[@marshalcraft]

This isn't too bad for someone newer to the game. Basically start to understand what's going on. I see even advanced players with very strong pocketing ability, who don't show they grasp the idea you can shoot bottom ball, and get forward. Best way to imagine the cue ball is a soccer ball or something for purposes of understanding.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

You're talking about the drag shot, which I'll eventually be going over when I talk about hitting below center on the cue ball.

[@someguywhocanfly]

The theory is roughly correct, but you hit your example shots at different paces. The 1 foot thing can't be any kind of useful value because it's completely dependent on pace, it could be a couple inches if you hit it really soft or an entire table length if you slam the cue ball.

[@samo4648]

He said that in the video

[@samo4648]

He said that in the video

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

There is absolutely no way a cue ball can slide across the entire length of the table, if the cue ball is struck in the center.

[@someguywhocanfly]

@@LilChrisPoolPlayer It's a little theoretical to be fair, but given enough distance between cue ball and object ball it could happen. Say you had a snooker table with american pool cloth. In real life on a normal american table, I reckon you could at least have a ball roll half a table length if the cue ball is near a rail and the object ball is in the centre.

[@someguywhocanfly]

@@samo4648 But after defining rollthrough as 1 foot. He's at least contradicting himself a little.

[@dennisbast743]

I need that shirt!! It describes my game perfectly!! :-)))

[@camaroman2205]

Thanks for the video. Great lesson. What camera are you using? I would like to set cameras up at home to video my practice sessions. Pick myself apart.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

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[@laurencecorray]

This is brilliant stuff, new to me and I am so grateful.

[@ronaldturoczy3637]

Each tip saves me many hours of trial end observation, keep them coming!

[@pranksfailsetc311]

these videos man, very very pedagogical

[@silenthunger3472]

Great information most people will never know

[@harrymundy5393]

Chris I was playing nine ball broke made a ball Then I proceeded to run out I used only center ball I used your lessons on two shots

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

OUTSTANDING! :-)

[@adamwhite99]

Great video and explanation! Thanks!

[@jwon01]

Does the sliding cue ball or the rolling cue ball have any effect on the object ball?

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

There's a slight difference of effect a sliding cue ball can have on an object vs a rolling cue ball, but in my opinion it's not enough to worry about. I'll eventually publish a video that discusses the effect a "spinning" cue ball (top, bottom, left, or right) can have on the object ball.

[@animulovers3881]

Awesome sir

[@stevenfunderburg6922]

Well produced and presented! I learned a lot.

[@MartinLang1625]

Great video! Thanks!

[@shawnr771]

Very good information. Thank you.

[@jalee6587]

Or you could just hit lower or higher on the cue ball for some english.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

You are correct, but the intention of the lesson is just to illustrate what affect a center ball hit can have on the cue ball. Shooting a ball with English will be discussed in future videos.

[@grime3000]

Awesome keep up the good work

[@chrisboysen1747]

Great. Thank you

[@chawnchochawn3267]

He is really short

[@johnhoush4366]

That 1' mark is missing an important note. That only works at a specific speed. If you hit the ball a lot softer, it starts to roll sooner, and if you hit harder, it slides longer.

[@LilChrisPoolPlayer]

That's all mentioned at the end of the video

[@jaakkopitkanen6736]

As Cris tells, those things are mentioned, and additionally, please notice that pool is so many dimensional undertaking that when you start to teach it to others you just have to begin with something simple.