Poor Man's Covered Call Explained - Proven Trading Strategies

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Markus Heitkoetter - Investor & Lifelong Learner

Markus Heitkoetter - Investor & Lifelong Learner

Күн бұрын

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@wjohnson100
@wjohnson100 3 жыл бұрын
One thing. You have to be long term bullish, and you have to be right. If you are wrong and the underlying goes south and stays there till expiration, you can lose up to (your entire investment - the premiums you get from selling calls). The advantage in that situation with owning the stocks is that at least they can recover if you hold them while an expired option cannot.
@vogelv8267
@vogelv8267 7 ай бұрын
Also he doesn't mention with poor man's CC you pay way more commissions than trading stocks or conventional CC. It's because you can trade stocks on most US brokers commission free but not options.
@ivantsanov3650
@ivantsanov3650 4 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Compos-Mentis-123
@Compos-Mentis-123 3 ай бұрын
@@ivantsanov3650 wjohnson had no clue, when/why to set up a pmcc. You should prefer high risk/voltatile stocks (if that is in your strategy anyway, no recommendation). The option premiums are high, but it's in some cases possible, to catch the long running itm call with a relative low premium. Advantage: Lower risk. If the stock goes to zero...you only lose the itm call position. Recover ? Is there a law, that you can't create the next pmcc ? No argument. For example: Stock 50...you buy itm call strike 30 for 22...stock falls to 20. Pmcc lost 22. Stockholder lost 30....company goes bankrupt...pmcc lost 22...stockholder lost 50.
@rogerp1477
@rogerp1477 Ай бұрын
@@vogelv8267 Cost is 65 cents per contract, so it is not expensive.
@OnewAll_
@OnewAll_ 3 жыл бұрын
You got yourself a new subscriber. Why? Clear explanation, zero fluff, no background biography - video not one second longer than it needed to be. Thank you. Now I'm gonna go binge your other videos.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@Gatkee
@Gatkee 2 жыл бұрын
OMG i watched one of those the other day where some guy continued to talk about background of himself and his whole family but also testimonials one after another. OMG we get it...
@zesanurrahman6778
@zesanurrahman6778 Жыл бұрын
​@@rockwelltradingserviceslol nice
@tywoodsgetgrants
@tywoodsgetgrants Жыл бұрын
@rockwell me too thanks for these easy to understand videos. I️ just hate long videos and it’s just a bunch of fluff. But one question, how would I️ get my premium that I️ paid for the longer call? Do I️ sell it after my option expires?
@Aeojx
@Aeojx 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Very clear and simple, showing every step. Thanks!
@buscadordelared3945
@buscadordelared3945 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a clear, concise explanation, and no irritating sound tracks. Thanks.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@jaysosweet
@jaysosweet Жыл бұрын
Seeing this video in dec 2023, and i got to admit this is one of the simplest, fuss free, straightforward, no nonsense explanation videos about covered calls and poor mans cc in youtube! You got urself a sub and lots of likes and viewtime sir!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@gregbabin365
@gregbabin365 4 жыл бұрын
The chart showing all three together is so helpful!!!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg Babin, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@AnAverageDude
@AnAverageDude 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who already knows about covered calls, I still appreciated this video very much, fantastically explained!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Omar, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@AnAverageDude
@AnAverageDude 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockwelltradingservices you're awesome, thank you for the education and most importantly your time!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@Arkstellar
@Arkstellar 4 жыл бұрын
You're the best teacher of options I've seen. Great job.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that! I try to make my videos as clear and to the point as possible. Thank you and have a Happy New Year ✨
@alexmar.c
@alexmar.c 10 ай бұрын
It has been a blessing to have the videos with Spanish subtitles. Thanks to that, I have been able to study and earn in dollars, spending in pesos. Greetings from Colombia and thank you very much for the teachings
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! ;)
@VRTimeFun
@VRTimeFun 4 жыл бұрын
This was an incredibly well done video. I did skip a few seconds. But loved everything, honestly.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@kannansivaraman2313
@kannansivaraman2313 4 жыл бұрын
Markus Heitkoetter has a very
@RogerThatPetSitter
@RogerThatPetSitter Ай бұрын
OMG thank goodness i found someone who can clearly explain things! About to watch your entire library😂
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TurtleTasticGaming
@TurtleTasticGaming 4 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic, you are the first person to get me to understand covered calls fully, and I like the poor man's CC idea! I love that you have the three different outcomes laid out visually, and you take your time explaining what happens in each scenario. Thank you for this valuable video, I will definitely be dropping a like now.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Shy ?, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@margaretplasota
@margaretplasota 11 ай бұрын
super nice and easy, I am a big fan now. Where can I get help? I would like to start trading covered calls.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 11 ай бұрын
Hi! You should check my audiobook here loom.ly/5CLflsc
@RameshRamloll
@RameshRamloll 4 жыл бұрын
You explain things at the right speed and very simply. Thanks.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the feedback! I try to make these videos as clear, and to the point as possible. I'm glad you're getting good information from them. 😀
@frankieslight
@frankieslight 7 ай бұрын
excellent explanation but as many have already said below, You did not adequately explain the downside risk of the underlying going completely south.
@Sam-we4zy
@Sam-we4zy 3 жыл бұрын
A good explanation but I would like to have known what happens if your PMCC gets called away at expiration
@christianshope7810
@christianshope7810 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah what happens!?
@johncalvo1743
@johncalvo1743 3 жыл бұрын
That is actually a good scenario. All you have to do is exercise your long option into shares, and then they will be called at a higher price than you exercised them for. PLUS, you kept the premium for the short call. The only downside to this scenario is that your profit is capped.
@chessguy1993
@chessguy1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncalvo1743 Well you do have to be careful that your profit isn't less than your premium paid. Say you paid $7 per share for a 3 month call at 150 and sold a 1 week call at 152.50 for .80. If you get assigned you'd make a total of 3.30 on the premium+share profits but lose $7 on the premium you paid. In that case you'd be better off buying the 152.50 call back before it gets exercised and then you could sell your 150 call that should have increased in value for a profit.
@marcohandmann4843
@marcohandmann4843 9 ай бұрын
Don't you need extra money to exercise the ITM option? I thought you are poor and almost all the money is in ITM calls. Or so you need margin, or does the broker step on? They also allow you in a Level 1 account to sell a call without owning the stock?
@lucasgarcia6814
@lucasgarcia6814 8 ай бұрын
If your PMCC gets called, most of he brokers automatically resolve it. You don't need to put more money because the profit you made with the BUY CALL is enough to compensate the SELL PUT, and 6 receive cash.
@Steve-be2tj
@Steve-be2tj 3 ай бұрын
Excellent.Can you show this example on NVDA stock please.
@jameslambe9275
@jameslambe9275 4 жыл бұрын
Best presentation on PMCC I have seen. Would be great if you can do a follow up on PMCCs addressing managing your positions such as when to sell your long call and when to buy to close your short call and then when to “roll it”. Also would be helpful if you can address other PMCC strategies regarding using LEAPS for the long call buy position and also pros/cons of using Delta as low as .70
@alane3985
@alane3985 3 жыл бұрын
I need to learn the following any recommendations for other channels?
@sramirez1906
@sramirez1906 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I also appreciate you waiting until we've had a chance to watch for a few minutes before asking for likes/comments. Too many KZbinrs ask for likes/subscribes before I've even had a chance to decide whether I actually like the video. It's incredibly annoying.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@kardon
@kardon 4 жыл бұрын
i understood every single thing. god why does other youtubers make it so hard to understand with their fancy languages
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kardon, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@aruv76
@aruv76 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I had to stop watching 5 other videos before I arrived at this one. Markus did a wonderful job of explaining this. THANK YOU!
@ymohsin
@ymohsin 4 жыл бұрын
because other KZbinrs don't understand the concepts behind these trading strategies as well as Markus does, great job!!!
@adamnaughty
@adamnaughty 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and his one of my favorite and actually believed in me and replied... his a good man
@katewolf00
@katewolf00 4 жыл бұрын
The jargon was invented by large institutions intentionally to deter retail investors like us from eating at their large pie of profit.
@garyroberts3014
@garyroberts3014 3 жыл бұрын
I came here after seeing the INthemoney channel try to explain this concept. He has no idea how to explain things to people who are trying to actually learn. THIS explanation in your video is a clear as can be. I really appreciate your hard work and your use of the charts and graphs and plugging in real examples. You earned a sub and a like, my friend - thanks so much, you are dynamite!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary Roberts, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@Eric-sg9xt
@Eric-sg9xt 4 жыл бұрын
Good info. I also have to add that you sound like the villain from every 80's-90's action movie. You get a sub from me
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric Holcomb, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@justinorwen1141
@justinorwen1141 3 жыл бұрын
The South African guy from Die Hard, Hans Gruber..lol
@freddiejonesy6168
@freddiejonesy6168 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinorwen1141 LoL!
@knittingknut
@knittingknut 3 жыл бұрын
So clear. Thanks for this. The more I watch, the better I’m starting to understand.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
😊 You are welcome! I am glad that this helps!
@RJMH
@RJMH 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this doesn't have enough views. Super clear explanations and easy to follow along. easy sub, thanks for the video!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mydoom, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@kennethwedmorelund
@kennethwedmorelund 7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you time spent on this video - I'm was originally a teacher and I can tell that you're very good at teaching this stuff without any "get rich quick" tone to it. Just the facts. Instant like and subscribe for me!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you, I really appreciate your feedback.
@peterdemic7139
@peterdemic7139 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing technique! Thank you Markus for sharing your knowledge in such an easy to understand way. Your channel is fantastic!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Peter! I appreciate the feedback. 😀 "See you" in the next video. 👍
@Rocky532ms
@Rocky532ms 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained Do you have any video about Calendar spread Buying deep in money longer month call & selling short month call regarding same stock
@ericd4020
@ericd4020 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric D, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@robertm.496
@robertm.496 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, however what happens to your deep in the money option that you paid $7100? it loses value over time. You either have to either roll it continuously which will cost money or sell it at a lower price?? Don't you have to account for this expense in your calcs? Also is it possible to get assigned before the expiration date if the stock price goes way up? How would you handle that. thanks
@mcgragor1
@mcgragor1 3 жыл бұрын
Good questions, maybe he'll see it and answer or do another vid.
@Huckleberry500
@Huckleberry500 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this exact same thing and I feel that without answering this, the video seems ingenuine.
@marksplayground
@marksplayground 3 жыл бұрын
What program are you using for your risk graph?
@XoXo2o3
@XoXo2o3 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video but am I missing something here? The downside of the "poor man's covered call" isn't that you lose $650, but that you end up losing your $7100 (seems no different than buying a call without owning the shares...). You mentioned that they do not own the shares, and do not have the capital to buy it. At least with a covered call, if your original idea of the stock going up is incorrect at least you own the shares and they can recover over time as time goes on (and you're bullish which is why you're doing calls anyway). With non-covered calls you're ponying up $7100 with the risk of volatility dropping, or time decaying and no shares to pad the landing if the trade turns against you...
@JC.72
@JC.72 3 жыл бұрын
thats the exact question i have, if the stock price ends up with the same price or not move at all and time expires, your lost that $7100... if i understand this right, if u dont make $7100 which is the cost to buy the contract. u are losing money. however, i guess you can keep doing this every day or every week or month, until you recover that $7100 and some. but again it feels like alot of work to even earn that upfront investment cost back. and you are pressured by time and its expiration dates.
@jjjw28x
@jjjw28x 9 ай бұрын
@@SuzetteSantori1 It was a major thing missing from this video and it lowers the credibility of the youtube for misleading the viewers, like a scammer. All the info in the video is correct which is good, but he needed to cover the devastating loss If the stock plummets like it has done with the current news about BA. It goes below your "bought call", you will still get the full premium from the "short call" (+$650) but you will lose all of the "bought call" value (-$7100) by expiration. As Xoxo put it, if you own the 100 shares to could hold on and hope BA recovers in a few years but with Poorman's CC, you will have to take the large loss. It's why he said its used for slightly bullish or bullish, not for a bearish scenario. If you do a covered call, you could do the "wheel strategy" cycling between covered calls till you assigned and then use the money for cash secured puts until you exercise it and then go back to covered calls. I should also note, if the stock does drop to zero, if you keep doing covered calls you could lessen the blow vs just owning the stock but in this scenario, in a bear market, you wouldn't do a Poorman's CC as its suicide. If you know there is no hope for the share price recovering above your "bought calls" by expiry, you can close the "bought and sold calls" ahead of time to reduce your loss before max loss.
@jeppertalks
@jeppertalks 3 ай бұрын
Very clear and easy to understand. Soon I'll be brave enough to try my first options trade, lol!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! I’m glad it’s all clicking for you. And hey, no need to rush-options will be there when you’re ready to jump in! When you do place that first trade, we’ll be cheering you on. 😊 Just remember, bravery in trading comes from having a solid strategy... and a little bit of courage, of course! 😉
@hitmangfx7162
@hitmangfx7162 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown. Very easy to follow. One thing to note: Rolling your covered calls at expiration unlocks a number of options. Either roll them down to a higher strike price or roll for additional premium. With PMCC, it's way easier to just completely eliminate the basis before exiting the trade. Also, I think settling for a lower delta on the long call is worth the trade-off of a lower opening basis. But this is a personal preference, I guess. I tend to calculate max profit as the difference in the strikes, without really regarding delta.
@sukhjinder71
@sukhjinder71 3 жыл бұрын
Very good job. I just watched another guy explain this, and it took him 45 minutes. By the time he was done I fell asleep 3 times. You made this very simple to understand. You did a great job. I can't wait to try poor man's covered call. Thank You
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@scoh840
@scoh840 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this thoughtful lesson. Respectfully, didnt you skip half the equation? isn't a pmcc a short call , shorter term than long call, out of the money, combined with the long call. The short call reduces your cost basis? The whole thing is a debit calendar spread. The trick to learn is how to manage the two calls to maximize profit under a variety of situations. thank you for your consideration to my question
@syshorizonenterprises7893
@syshorizonenterprises7893 3 жыл бұрын
You are very clear at teaching. One of the best teacher....
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@deinekes9
@deinekes9 4 жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but I'll still ask. What happens upon having the short leg assigned? Do you need to have the funds available to cover the transaction of the long call? Or does it all work out on the broker's end like without any further input from you as it does with a normal vertical spread?
@jaredkingrombold6934
@jaredkingrombold6934 Жыл бұрын
yes i was wondering the same thing because you cannot sell a call of a 180 $ stock without putting up collateral in case your assigned ?? at 200 which would be 20,000!!!
@snefu1586
@snefu1586 24 күн бұрын
Cheers Marcus! Just the info i was looking for. Happy New Year!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 24 күн бұрын
Happy new year!
@tmills721
@tmills721 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I watched it a second time today because it was so well done!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@jakeangove1938
@jakeangove1938 11 ай бұрын
This I a great video and channel, thanks for that, the only thing I don't understand is with the poor man's covered call, want you lose the initial investment of 7100 when the call runs over expiry? That means you won't make money unless you've sold enough calls to outweigh the initial investment?
@hamsinisitini6613
@hamsinisitini6613 4 жыл бұрын
Markus - I think you have a way of explaining Options Trading that demystifies it and is easily understood by a layman. Could you also touch on Iron Condors, Diagonals and Iron Butterflies?
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Hamsini. I appreciate the feedback. And YES, I will put it on the list and cover these strategies in one of the upcoming "Coffee with Markus" Shows. Make sure to subscribe to the channel so that you get a notification from KZbin whenever I release a new video. This way you don't miss it. 😀👍
@chiefetwful
@chiefetwful Жыл бұрын
Best explanation of the PMCC I’ve seen!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! ;)
@takarataylor2819
@takarataylor2819 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! and your hair is fabulous LOL.
@ronaldgreene5733
@ronaldgreene5733 3 жыл бұрын
Yours also
@user-hv4jp6sm7i
@user-hv4jp6sm7i 3 жыл бұрын
nappy ass hair sis go wash it LOL
@kevinpyne5808
@kevinpyne5808 3 ай бұрын
Very clear, plus you talk in terms that the novice trader can relate to. Bravo sir.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate your feedback. My goal has always been to simplify trading and make it accessible to everyone, no matter their experience level. It’s great to know that the way I explain things resonates with you. If there's ever anything you'd like more clarity on, don't hesitate to reach out. Happy trading!
@strhunter666
@strhunter666 4 жыл бұрын
what happens when the pmcc gets assigned?
@connorlynch4695
@connorlynch4695 4 жыл бұрын
If the short call gets assigned at expiration, your broker should automatically exercise the long call. Because of the higher delta of your long call, you will still profit in this situation.
@luismanuelmendoza789
@luismanuelmendoza789 4 жыл бұрын
@@connorlynch4695 So your broker “should” exercise the longer call, buy the stock at the price that is DITM and then sell those stocks at the assigned call?? And you profit the difference? The other way to make money would be to close the legs right?
@elliotdelacruz390
@elliotdelacruz390 Жыл бұрын
what happens to the poor man's buy 110 call if stock goes above 200?
@raywilliams3530
@raywilliams3530 4 жыл бұрын
What about Theta/Time Decay? How does that impact your long ITM Call?
@mistletoe91
@mistletoe91 4 жыл бұрын
Yep thats another devil variable
@connorlynch4695
@connorlynch4695 4 жыл бұрын
Theta is small for long, deep ITM call. The farther out the expiration of the long call, the lower the theta value as well. If you're long term bullish on the underlying, it makes sense to pay a higher premium for a lower theta and more time for the underlying to rise (also, more time to sell short OTM calls). I would do 3 months at a minimum.
@rhpmike
@rhpmike 4 жыл бұрын
@@connorlynch4695 Yeah, video has the ITM call at slightly under 2 months, which is probably too short as theta is going to start ramping up at 45 days. Worth paying extra here to go a bit further out and not being hurt on the time decay as much. Worth mentioning, though, you need liquidity on the option and the further out you go, sometimes the wider the bid-ask spread.
@johncalvo1743
@johncalvo1743 3 жыл бұрын
Theta has a very little impact because most of the value of a DITM call is intrinsic.
@briangoodman5260
@briangoodman5260 11 ай бұрын
great! the only thing you left out is: what happens if the short call gets exercised against your ITM call? then you are short 100 shares of stock against a long call with 95 delta, putting you net short 5 shares. Do you have to exercise your long ITM call before expiration? or does the brokerage do it for you?
@RicardoHernandez-zr1pw
@RicardoHernandez-zr1pw 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I actually started with buying regular calls and puts. I now discovered covered calls and will use them from now on. It seems safer than what I was doing before (buying calls and adding on the dips then selling them for profit).
@falgunpatil2372
@falgunpatil2372 21 күн бұрын
Why did you not mention about losing entire principal if option expires worthless?? 🤔🤔🤔
@laurenrupper6872
@laurenrupper6872 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, what is the management on the long side?
@poohbear2441
@poohbear2441 5 ай бұрын
Oh Thank Heavens I found someone who goes in details to explain cover call and poor man strategies. I have been watching few videos and I did not get it because they didn't go in details!! Thank you so easy to understand and showing the example helps!!!!!! BUT I do want to add that if you do a cover call and price goes up to 190 you wouldn't really make 1,450 because the call have to be executed meaning the stock would have to go to $200 since you did a cover call/ sell call for $200. Isn't it once at the expiration date the stock goes up above $200 the cover call will be executed therefore than you would make extra $20 per share x 100 = 2000 + 450 (premium)= Total gain is 2,450.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! I am glad that this helps! Are you subscribed? Markus and Mark do live updates here daily.
@JimArnold6
@JimArnold6 3 жыл бұрын
Should have covered with happens with the deep ITM call you purchased.
@christianshope7810
@christianshope7810 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what happens to the $7100 itm call???
@javierarellano4472
@javierarellano4472 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I hadn't seen this video sooner but glad I came across it. What I don't understand is buying that deep in the money, there isn't much open interest to be able to buy the call. Am I missing something?
@tafwolf
@tafwolf 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! While i do get the concept, i am getting a hard time navigating through tastyworks. I already own a leaps of Apple but i dont know how to sell a covered call against it making sure that my long position is actually held as the collateral. I have seen people doing it with long diagonal spread for the very first call they sell. but how do you keep selling more covered call after the first sold call expires and make sure that your long position is the collateral? Do you just sell naked call and the platform is smart enough to pick up that you have a leaps to cover for it? Thank you!
@braindroid9696
@braindroid9696 Жыл бұрын
I came to this video looking for an answer to this specific question. I went through the video and the comments, but don't see an answer to this. With Interactive Broker, it won't allow me to place the covered call holding the LEAP as a collateral.
@sinmaan7568
@sinmaan7568 3 жыл бұрын
How does it work when you get assigned? How do you evaluate the profit/loss? [Short call strike x100] - [long call strike x100] - [cost of buying the long call option] + [any premiums generated while holding the long call] ?
@josh.kaptur
@josh.kaptur 4 жыл бұрын
One other scenario I wish you had shown - capped downside of the option vs the stock if we blew it and Boeing tanked below our deep in the money strike.
@maxwelladams5114
@maxwelladams5114 4 жыл бұрын
Yes same
@capcrunch7838
@capcrunch7838 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty straightforward your out what you paid for your in the money call minus what you sold the covered call. Big win from a stock or an actual covered call. Both of those two your simply left bag holding
@marcohandmann4843
@marcohandmann4843 9 ай бұрын
When you hold the stock you wouldn't need to realize the paper loss and just write more OTM CCs in perpetuity, until you hit you strike price one day. The poor man has to realize the loss due to expiry date. I learned the strategy is not for me.
@TheSKT946
@TheSKT946 3 жыл бұрын
Easier to understand than the others. They talk so fast and don't diagram it as nicely. Thanks!!!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! I am glad that this helps! :)
@Allen_lena
@Allen_lena 4 жыл бұрын
Let me see if I got this straight: So you sell a call at an earlier day than the call you buy (which is really deep in the money). What happens if you get excercised on your sell option at a higher price is that you excercise your deep in the money call to cover, thus limiting your gains, but not by much. If you stay below the strike of your sell option but higher than the original prize, you're fine. If the underlying stock falls, but it's still higher than your option, your losses are limited. So basically it's the nearly the same risk as a Covered call, but the returns/losses graph is curved instead of straight lines due to the difference in IV between your short and your long positions?
@entertainmentinternational1087
@entertainmentinternational1087 4 жыл бұрын
Also I'm liking selling covered calls on stocks I either plan on holding or I planned on selling if the stock hit that strike price anyway. I think its win win to sell cover calls
@kennyn.8233
@kennyn.8233 3 жыл бұрын
Understood selling the covered call and owning the stocks.. learned to buy in the money calls instead. Thank you for the tutorial
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
😊 You are welcome! I am glad that this helps!
@jabsnana8465
@jabsnana8465 4 жыл бұрын
Everything is good and dandy in THEORY except there's gonna be ZERO Volume or Open interest at the $110 strike price (.94 delta).
@bluestarindustrialarts7712
@bluestarindustrialarts7712 3 жыл бұрын
Usually that is correct. Any delta over 75 is good for this. Im happy with a .75/dollar move towards profit when I'm about 80-90% less cash outlay. (than if i bought the stock)
@johncalvo1743
@johncalvo1743 3 жыл бұрын
That has no bearing. If you have trouble closing the position, just exercise the option. I do this often to teach the MMs a lesson. A stock like RH is notorious for trying to overcharge you when you try to close out a leg.
@JonathanScheele
@JonathanScheele 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncalvo1743 It has bearing if you don't have the capital to exercise the option, which is a reason why many people do the PMCC in the first place.
@johncalvo1743
@johncalvo1743 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanScheele There have been many times where I don't have the capital to exercise. My broker allows me to exercise, then flatten. It all comes out in the wash.
@djwashx
@djwashx 3 жыл бұрын
this has to be the most thorough explanation on youtube it was excellent thanks
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! I am glad that this helps! :)
@garyscott9261
@garyscott9261 2 ай бұрын
Very helpful. I’m just learning and this was very well done and easy to follow
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 2 ай бұрын
I am glad that this helps. Please feel free to watch our livestream www.youtube.com/@rockwelltradingservices/streams
@waynecrumpley4779
@waynecrumpley4779 3 жыл бұрын
An important point is ROI. Another issue probably not to discuss is the tolerance for risk of the investor. Good video!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@ariccai6527
@ariccai6527 Жыл бұрын
What about when the stock goes down with a PMCC? Why don’t we look into that more?
@HadenYasser31
@HadenYasser31 3 жыл бұрын
What happend if I get assigned in the Coovered Call? Does my CALL then exercise automatically?
@balajisridharan9790
@balajisridharan9790 3 жыл бұрын
One thing, probably the most important thing I feel was missed (maybe I am wrong) is that in both 1 & 2, there is equity, an asset which we hold on to, which is 100 stocks of Boeing. In the third scenario, there is no such asset because we have to exercise our September option, in order to fulfil the July option. In August or September, if Boeing goes up to 200 or even 190, both 1 & 2 still have the stocks which can be sold, while 3 does not! This is an important difference.
@stephanied5629
@stephanied5629 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting strategy. I didn't realize that you could own a covered call without actually buying the security. I've liked it so that it shows up on my "likes" list and I can review later, hitting like is also a good organizational tool to find videos later.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for liking. ;)
@acjt7079
@acjt7079 3 жыл бұрын
Simple clear and concise. Thank you. One question if I may..... if I buy a LEAP can I keep selling poor mans covered calls (after each expires ) until the LEAP expires assuming the strike price of the poor mans covered calls that I sell aren’t met
@MrRaja
@MrRaja 3 жыл бұрын
One of the friendliest video about covered calls. All the other videos are a little harsh in explaining how ever your explaining goes above and beyond just explaining.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@MrRaja
@MrRaja 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockwelltradingservices Is there a wheel strategy explanation as well? I would link that in the description. "How to use PMCC as a long term investment strategy." or something.
@alexpeters8983
@alexpeters8983 11 ай бұрын
Hey Markus, quick question. So in the PMCC example, if the covered call above 200 executes, does your broker just take your ITM calls to cover? Or do you physically need the capital to buy the 100 shares ITM to then sell at the 200 strike? Thanks.
@shaundubya5881
@shaundubya5881 3 жыл бұрын
Demonstration was really helpful as you lecture at the same time !!!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@andrewpm2
@andrewpm2 4 жыл бұрын
This has me rethinking my entire investment approach. This seems like a good strategy to compliment the traditional buy-n-hold strategy.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi andrewpm2, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@justdowhit1
@justdowhit1 3 жыл бұрын
So for a PMCC you buy a call deep ITM at a far out expiry date.. What i dont understand is in your chart you have to SELL a call at $200 strike price? Do you have to buy AND sell a call for this strategy? because I thought to sell a call you need 100 shares minimum to do that. Thanks for all the info!
@Sifatullahsolo
@Sifatullahsolo Жыл бұрын
Hi Markus, Just wanted to say I love your videos! Your explanations are top-notch, and watching the trading screen in action is a game-changer. Keep up the great work, and thanks a bunch!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@gasser5001
@gasser5001 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell your experience thru how easily you teach this. 10/10. Liked and sub'd. 3rd video of yours I've watched. Great stuff, Markus.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and subscribing! 😊
@noahgiamei
@noahgiamei 5 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you for explaining so clearly.
@financeabcs
@financeabcs 3 жыл бұрын
New to your channel!! Love to talk about options!! You have a good way to explain things. I was wondering what all the “yes” in the comments were until I heard the entire video. Liked and subscribed!!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@rob412
@rob412 Жыл бұрын
Clearly explained 👍. I am Italian and i understood everything perfectly. Thanks I will subscribe
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices Жыл бұрын
Awesome! :)
@derekbystander
@derekbystander 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! I'm complete newbie and I understand what you're saying!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@HoopsMcCann-p4g
@HoopsMcCann-p4g 3 ай бұрын
One of the biggest downsides to buying a deep in the money call (.95 delta) are the spreads between the bid and the ask. They’re often extremely wide, and this is confusing to new traders. Because buying with a wide spread is literally throwing away money to the broker. You’d be much better off just buying 2 delta .50 options (at the money or first strike in the money), they’ll have the highest open interest and therefore the tightest bid/ask spreads, and they’ll function like that 100 shares you described
@DannySalseroDan
@DannySalseroDan 11 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm a new subscriber, it's a good video very clear, what I just don't understand for the poor man's covered call is that if the delta is 0.95, so the option is behaving like 95 stocks and the move is 10$, that should be worth 950$ + 450$ credit = 1'400$ or did I missed something ?
@satinderbank4607
@satinderbank4607 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. I pretty much understood the Covered calls and Cash secured puts but had a hard time wrapping my head around PMCC (poor Man's....). You Sir, Explained it beautifully. Thanks for your efforts and God bless you with success and happiness.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
😊 You are welcome! I am glad that this helps!
@Chris-jo3nb
@Chris-jo3nb 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks. One thing to point out: There is a big downside - if the stock drops the poor man's covered call will expire with a permanent loss, whereas with the stock or covered call you still have the original asset (which is a temporary loss that can of course rise later.)
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, yes, good point! Thanks for sharing. 👍
@IanSRutter
@IanSRutter 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! What an explanation. I've subbed as you have made this so easy to understand. I'm studying Options now and with a few books and some courses under my belt, I can't stress enough how you have simplified Poor Man's Cover Call. I've just opened an account so I can practice with 'pretend' money. I can't thank you enough for this. It really has given me a confidence boost because at times I was thinking it must be me not being able to grasp all the terms and strategies over the last few weeks. Thanks again and look forward to your content.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
😊 You are welcome! I am glad that this helps!
@rajeshsadhna
@rajeshsadhna 3 ай бұрын
Please elaborate if the covered call is assigned how leap option will be able to cover the assignment. I am sorry I did not understand the last scenario.
@Scireforall
@Scireforall Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤ thanks for this great trading call video it is very easy to understand ❤❤❤😊
@gosikh
@gosikh Жыл бұрын
I have never done this. Will try this! Super thanks.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching!
@Ant-um7ym
@Ant-um7ym 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful to someone knew to covered calls and poor's man cover call.
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching! :)
@Ant-um7ym
@Ant-um7ym 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockwelltradingservices no prob 💪👍
@HawkIjr
@HawkIjr 3 жыл бұрын
An poor man's CC exit strategy would be a nice follow up video to this one. Thanks for sharing!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! I am glad that this helps! :)
@edmandell3064
@edmandell3064 Жыл бұрын
Great Video. If your bullish on your long position of the PMCC is it better to close the short position if the stock runs up rather than allowing the brokerage to exercise the long position to cover the short ?
@samuelbazinet3033
@samuelbazinet3033 Жыл бұрын
If you're doing a PMCC you should pretty much always close out your short call or roll it forward to the next expiration.
@jasonnowicki5066
@jasonnowicki5066 3 жыл бұрын
markus i like this, but i wish you would make a theoretical video on this example of what would take place if this situation got assigned. "hand hold us newbies" thru the process and write down the numbers on the screen of the -100 situation and how with most brokerages we would get ourselves out. theoretical mechanism examples on your screen.
@rgkh1503
@rgkh1503 8 ай бұрын
It’s probably a stupid question but I am missing something : if you do the poor man’s cc strategy and the stock goes above 200, how can sell that 100 shares of stock since you didn’t buy it in the first place ?
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 8 ай бұрын
In the Poor Man's Covered Call strategy, where you buy a long call and sell a short call at a higher strike price, if the stock price goes above the higher strike price and your short call gets exercised, you would be obligated to sell 100 shares of stock at that strike price. However, since you didn't own the shares initially, your broker would typically handle this through "closing out the position" or "buying too close." This means your broker would buy the shares in the market to cover your obligation to sell them at the higher strike price. This process ensures you fulfill your obligation without physically owning the shares beforehand.
@rgkh1503
@rgkh1503 8 ай бұрын
@@rockwelltradingservices okay clear, thanks Markus!
@luxboyus
@luxboyus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Markus this is very good video with clear explanation about cc, very helpful!
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! ;)
@zaklloyd4335
@zaklloyd4335 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Did you forget the premium on on the Poor Mans example? I saw on your platform the $71cost for the in the money leap, but no mention of the $450 premium that you'd receive for selling the 200 call. Trying to get my head round this. Want to use it for Bitcoin and this could be the golden ticket
@HungryHippoo
@HungryHippoo Жыл бұрын
Hello, could you explain something to me, when I buy back my option from a covered call at a loss, to reroll the strike or the date to next week, my broker adds this to my short term losses? This is not great as I frequently buy back my options and I do not frequently sell for capital gains, this is a huge disadvantage as we can only claim a $3,000 total loss on our taxes correct?
@tabbott429
@tabbott429 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Sometimes its good to hear a few times for memory sake. 😆
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@yoireroque3746
@yoireroque3746 2 ай бұрын
Very clear explanation. How do you close a Poor Man Cover call? What happens at the expiration of the call deep in the money?
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 2 ай бұрын
Great question! Closing a Poor Man's Covered Call is straightforward once you know the steps. Here’s what to consider: Closing the Call Option: If the short call option is deep in-the-money as it nears expiration, you can buy it back to close the position. This limits your risk of assignment, though assignment is always possible with ITM options close to expiration. Rolling the Call: If you still want to hold onto the PMCC strategy, you can roll the short call to a later expiration date or a different strike price. This lets you continue generating premium income. Letting It Expire: If you let the short call expire in-the-money, you’ll be assigned, meaning you’ll sell the shares at the strike price. Since you don’t actually own the stock, the assignment will sell the “long call” position at that strike, and you’ll realize a gain or loss based on your initial entry price. At expiration, if the call is deep in-the-money, be ready to decide on rolling, closing, or letting it expire and accepting assignment. Each choice depends on your goal for the trade and how you feel about the underlying stock’s movement. Let me know if that helps or if you want more details!
@supercruchynoodle
@supercruchynoodle Жыл бұрын
Pls also explain when you would close early and if I can do this on Robin Hood level 2 thank you
@Sonia-cd6rt
@Sonia-cd6rt 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! My question is what happens when your short term call expires in the money and you are 'short' the shares? thanks
@laughtertherapy4570
@laughtertherapy4570 4 жыл бұрын
I am right now in covered call phase and did it twice ...came here to learn poor mans covered calls 😁
@rockwelltradingservices
@rockwelltradingservices 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Laughter Therapy, thanks for watching. And thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. "See you" in the next video 👍
@rickkennedy7256
@rickkennedy7256 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation...very clear. But (I think) you left one thing out. What happens to the $7,100 that you paid to buy the longer term 110 call. That money has not been invested...it has been spent. Obviously you sell it back. But for a loss?...a gain...for $7,100?
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