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DEXERTO CSGO

DEXERTO CSGO

Күн бұрын

After taking down NAVI s1mple, FURIA yuurih, and ENCE snappi in the ESL Pro League, FaZe are the EPL Season 15 champions. FaZe Karrigan, FaZe rain, FaZe broky, FaZe twistzz, and FaZe ropz overtook s1mple & NAVI CSGO to be ranked the best CS:GO team. FaZe Clan are now halfway to completing the Counter-Strike Intel Grand Slam after also winning IEM Katowice 2022.
In this episode of the Pop Flash Counter Strike podcast, Richard Lewis, Duncan 'Thorin' Shields, and Auguste 'Semmler' Massonnat discuss recent CSGO esports events, who the best CS:GO IGL is, the problems with the CSGO Team Liquid roster and Heroic cadiaN, why NAVI csgo won't get an era, as well the current status of teams such as Gambit CSGO, Team Liquid CSGO, ENCE CSGO, Heroic CSGO, NAVI CSGO and Movistar CSGO.
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Chapters:
0:00 How Bad Is NA?
10:30 Gambit's Problems
19:18 Team Liquid = Losers?!
33:38 Heroic Doomed?
51:26 How FaZe Became The Best In The World
1:01:30 How Good Is Karrigan?
1:07:05 How Easy For ENCE?
The Making of Karrigan + Olofmeister: Why We Almost QUIT CSGO!: • The Making of Karrigan...
The Making of Ropz: My Redemption After CHEATING Accusations: • The Making of Ropz: My...
Pop Flash: NiKo Has Dropped Off a Cliff! | ESL Pro League Review: • Pop Flash: NiKo Has Dr...
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@DEXERTOCSGO
@DEXERTOCSGO 2 жыл бұрын
1:02:40 How do YOU rank Karrigan among the IGL greats?
@Gustavoprf1
@Gustavoprf1 2 жыл бұрын
1 - Gla1ve 2 - FalleN 3 - Karrigan
@niels7844
@niels7844 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gustavoprf1 ah a brazilian lmaooo
@thememecabinet9223
@thememecabinet9223 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gustavoprf1 FalleN hasn't won a single trophy in 4 years.
@travisb1o0m19
@travisb1o0m19 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gustavoprf1 fallen??? In what world is he a top 3 igl?
@stewartminges
@stewartminges 2 жыл бұрын
What about Zeus, blyat?
@de_prod1gy965
@de_prod1gy965 2 жыл бұрын
gla1ve won 4 majors but struggles after roster changes and meta change. But Karragan no matter what kind of situation he is in he always manages to pull it off. Karragan proved he is Best IGL. after winning ESL pro. Just look at those come backs with good clutches. he is keep improving.
@JJ_196
@JJ_196 2 жыл бұрын
give gla1ve the faze roster and he does the same easy
@tyby2076
@tyby2076 2 жыл бұрын
4 majors>0 majors. You are just a fanboy who can't understand numbers. Understandable I guess. If not for glaive, cs would be years behind what we have now. And again, faze roster is far better than what Astralis has with Fartlig and washed9x.
@Nathan-hs2ut
@Nathan-hs2ut 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJ_196 Huh? karrigan won 4 thropies back to back with a mouz roster way worse than the current Astralis. Gla1ve had success with ONE lineup; tailor made by... Karrigan the goat. Gla1ve is a fraud compared to karrigan and it's clear now
@waibhavkrishnaChandra
@waibhavkrishnaChandra 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJ_196 conjectures
@guitarkid0725
@guitarkid0725 2 жыл бұрын
Helps that gla1ve had some of the best danish players to ever do it and had a complete package to work with since he joined Astralis day 1. Inherited Karrigan’s team back in 2016. Not that gla1ve isnt a fantastic IGL but Karrigan can take scraps and make them perform to Tier 1 status
@MrJeanjean2009
@MrJeanjean2009 2 жыл бұрын
God this is too good, the Astralis/Heroic Bloods/Crips milk toast feud talk had me creased.
@KeefeL
@KeefeL 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious. Studied in south central LA for 4 years, had a good laugh
@SlashmanG
@SlashmanG 2 жыл бұрын
So happy to have Semmler managing tha boiz, Pop Flash & By the numbers keep me loving CSGO
@bradleyfirby648
@bradleyfirby648 2 жыл бұрын
If FaZe wins the Major, correct me if I'm wrong, but won't rain, ropz, Twistzz and broky all be the first player from their respective countries to win a CS:GO Major? And will karrigan be the oldest Major winner in CS:GO?
@blakeedward5520
@blakeedward5520 2 жыл бұрын
All true. The oldest major winner was Zeus at 29, Karrigan would have done it at 32.
@n55Rob
@n55Rob 2 жыл бұрын
I thought twist won a major with liquid in 2019 maybe I’m wrong
@bradleyfirby648
@bradleyfirby648 2 жыл бұрын
@@n55Rob Liquid never won the Major; they had the summer Grand Slam run in 2019, went into the player break the favourites for the Major, struggled their way to the quarter finals where they got knocked out by Astralis with the surprise Vertigo pick. Cloud9 in Boston 2018 is NA's only CS:GO Major and that roster didn't feature Twistzz :)
@blakeedward5520
@blakeedward5520 2 жыл бұрын
@@n55Rob Indeed you are. The only major any North Americans won was Boston 2018.
@sean2848
@sean2848 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyfirby648 yeah there was no canadian in that roster
@brolafdanaross9787
@brolafdanaross9787 2 жыл бұрын
This opening had me dying, I really love this trio together. Thanks for this great content
@Robbybobby_
@Robbybobby_ 2 жыл бұрын
Rain is Mr. Faze and that's why he is my favoruite csgo pro. I hated the narrative that jks should replace rain but he is not the most overrated rifler richard, terrible take.
@bluntforcetrauma7970
@bluntforcetrauma7970 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that there’s a lot of people saying jks should replace him, I’d say he’s underrated
@bluntforcetrauma7970
@bluntforcetrauma7970 2 жыл бұрын
well actually, now that Ive listened to what he said, he meant that rain was never an overrated rifler, never in a million years.. so we’re actually all in the same page
@Robbybobby_
@Robbybobby_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluntforcetrauma7970 i was talking about the take richard had about how jks is overrated af and doesn't belong in a top team like faze
@RLewisReports
@RLewisReports 2 жыл бұрын
After Katowice the subreddit made multiple threads saying he needed to replace Rain on FaZe, that he should be in a top tier team if it isn't FaZe and people kept posting almost daily "has anyone signed him yet." In the real world, where I like to live, this is a guy who flopped at Complexity despite being one of the highest paid players in the world at that time, blamed the team for being dysfunctional as if that's an excuse to consistently not frag and he's been shelved ever since for reasons I can take an educated guess at. He peaked during his time in 100 Thieves. That was 2020. So yes he is VERY overrated by the subreddit but that's to be expected when they're all weebs who think esports is an anime.
@Robbybobby_
@Robbybobby_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@RLewisReports He did under perform on COL, that is obvious but he just showed that he can play multiple positions on the fly at a top tier event and win. What else does he need to do as of this moment to get a shot a tier 1 team?
@tuginwho
@tuginwho 2 жыл бұрын
In my heart Karrigan is already the GOAT IGL. Ofc objectively youd probably have to give it to gla1ve for being a fantastic IGL in the most decorated line up of all time. But the flamboyance per se on Karrigan's resume compared to gla1ve's is night and day. Gla1ve has had success with two line ups with one difference between them and won 4 majors with an all Danish team. Karrigan on the other hand, has been the first IGL to ever make an international line up work and a line up full of superstar players. He did create one fantastic Danish line up in TSM but ofc he didnt go all the way with them. More importantly though, he's had four, for the most part, completely different line ups, and made them all Champions. All of which he largely built the teams himself. First FaZe lineup in early 2017 with allu, kioshima, NiKo and rain was btw the first ever majority international line up to compete for titles. Do remember that FaZe as a project of star players from different countries was a never before tested concept in team building started all the way back in 2015 and had never worked until Karrigan came along. FaZe before Karrigan was a complete waste of space. They were seen like Movistar Riders in the world back then. An alright team that can maybe take the odd map off of a good team but youd never in a million years actually expect to compete for titles and were incredibly inconsistent. Karrigan immediately comes in and makes them a very solid top 10 team that even made playoffs at the major. Then bring NiKo in for aizy and you''re already competing for titles immediately. Then he made one of the very rare examples in CS where you construct a true superteam (with olof and Guardian), where almost everyone would be considered a superstar on any other lineup, and actually make it live up to expectations. Why do you think the Cloud9 Boston run was such a fairytale and the final is probably the most famous CS match of all time. Because they slayed the four headed dragon. The absolute fear that everyone had after their wins in New York and ELeague was never before seen and never seen since. Many teams have won back to back S Tier tournaments, but none in the fashion FaZe did. You watched New York as they humiliated both C9 and Liquid and just felt bad for the opponents as to how badly they were beaten. Now at the time, Karrigan haters would make the same argument people in football use to discredit Pep Guardiola. They've only had success with the very best players. Well that argument died the second Karrigan took a tiny org in mousesports with chrisJ who was nearly 30, frozen who couldnt even purchase alcohol, woxic and ropz to a massive championship. He's won both with Real Madrid and Aston Villa. That all already is incredible, and then now hes just gone and done it again. While it's not mousesports level of obscurity in the players, you take the (as Thorin said in the video) 18th, 19th and 20th best players and take them to the number one in the world where trios like s1mple, electronic, b1t or NiKo, hunter, m0nesy or even sh1ro, Ax1le, Hobbit exist. I love ropz, Twistzz and broky to the maximum but there is no way they have enough firepower for number 1 in the world unless Karrigan is using them to utmost perfection (and to give credit to them, they also fully buy into his system). Btw, that's 13 different nationalities represented across all of his teams. With all 4 of those lineups being 100% international. That is out of this world. He's already the international GOAT IGL by far, which is a massive title btw, and if he can take this team to a major win, he's well on his way to being right next to gla1ve when you consider the way he's written his legacy. I havent even mentioned yet that hes the only IGL who can somehow use stand ins to absolute perfection on a consistent basis. This guy is out of this world
@TheBelgianEmperor
@TheBelgianEmperor 2 жыл бұрын
You haven't even mentioned that the TSM lineup was the only team to consistently beat Fnatic in their era. The only problem they had was that they couldn't seem to get past the semi-finals of big tournaments, but it's debatable how much of that is up to karrigan and how much to the other players. MInd you not, he didn't have a sports-psychologist when he was in the team. And it always seemed to be something psychological. It's not his fault if the org he was in couldn't support him. And it's also the lineup he built. Sure, gla1ve took them to trophies, but outside of the international lineup success, you can't forget that he's probably the best at building lineups. gla1ve has never even built one. This Astralis is the first time where he didn't take a set core, and so far he has no success. Konfig and BlameF are no slouches, Farlig is a proper AWP-er. He now just needs the guts to tell Xyp9x to fuck off and go to the bench and find them a new player.
@tuginwho
@tuginwho 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBelgianEmperor Yeah his TSM lineup is madly under-credited. You’re absolutely right
@bipolarminddroppings
@bipolarminddroppings 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuginwho they are underrated because they couldnt get the big wins. the perennial chokers. Glaive has basically had 1 good lineup, Karrigan has had 6 or 7 at this point. they are defo 1a and 1b.
@Szmajdzik
@Szmajdzik 2 жыл бұрын
Considering those two one thing comes to mind: 4 major > 0 majors. But after reading what you wrote I seriously consider them very close on the very top. Very well wrote.
@tuginwho
@tuginwho 2 жыл бұрын
@@Szmajdzik thanks and you are right, 4 majors > 0 majors is still too big off a cliff to genuinely give Karrigan the nod, even though Karrigan does have quite a few things over gla1ve
@eliaspihlstrom3691
@eliaspihlstrom3691 2 жыл бұрын
”youre making everything turfwar over fuck all” got me gassed up, spot on banter on Heroic/ Cadian.
@1Haley
@1Haley 2 жыл бұрын
Thoorin is so flagrant I love it
@JLNHB
@JLNHB 2 жыл бұрын
The bad thing about this episode is that we wont get certain parts in Best of BTN. Thats really unfortunate.
@joelkaminski7801
@joelkaminski7801 2 жыл бұрын
I effin LOVE Thorin, always the best first five-minutes. Seriously always thinking what I'm thinking, keep up the awesome content guys!
@HayDog322
@HayDog322 2 жыл бұрын
I loved him too then he banned me on Twitter for no reason
@TheDonod
@TheDonod 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make another straight away? Im fkng hooked!
@villesillanpaa8859
@villesillanpaa8859 2 жыл бұрын
I allways wait these episodes like a little boy christmas
@rafisanders
@rafisanders 2 жыл бұрын
It's basically a two horse race between glaive and karrigan. I can understand the argument for either player
@mincrafthoovy
@mincrafthoovy 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for getting me through the rest of my shift! good content guys!
@BiruSyailendra
@BiruSyailendra 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most hilarious episode! 😂😂😂 Especially the Cadian part 😂😂😂
@stefanvandermerwe4204
@stefanvandermerwe4204 2 жыл бұрын
I love the thorin's opening rants!
@nyanray
@nyanray 2 жыл бұрын
This and BTN are my favourite csgo podcasts. Popflash is like the veggies and greens, btn is spicy take(away)s and beer
@boom.headshot
@boom.headshot 2 жыл бұрын
Gla1ve did win the 4 majors… with a team Karrigan built. Thorin is also saying GOAT in terms of if he had to pick an IGL for a team he was building, Karrigan while he hasn’t won a Major he has done so much with a much harder route. Gla1ve did it all in Denmark with Denmark players. No culture differences. Opposed to Karrigan who has achieved many, many things except No Major with international teams where most players don’t speak English as their first language and he’s also proven over time he can take a player who is in the worst slump and make them look amazing or winning two big tournaments with a stand in lol. Yes I love Gla1ve just like I love Karrigan and I can do the same arguments for Gla1ve because I don’t think it’s just so easy to say 1 is better then the other without really discussing it. Most people just say Gla1ve is better because he won 4 majors and Karrigan hasn’t won 1. That’s so short sided and does a disservice to both of them.
@sh1nenkai258
@sh1nenkai258 2 жыл бұрын
here is the short argument gla1ve has won everything with the same 3 players, after that he has done nothing in his career note worthy whereas karrigan has won tournements with stand ins tier 1 events, and has taken multiple teams (even with non superstar players at the time) to the top and won tier 1 events
@Kinwika
@Kinwika 2 жыл бұрын
Another banger, liking this trio
@sh1nenkai258
@sh1nenkai258 2 жыл бұрын
the straight fire from this podcast is the joy to my day
@jacksoningram6823
@jacksoningram6823 2 жыл бұрын
new viewer, love the content and format!
@dextercarlin7153
@dextercarlin7153 2 жыл бұрын
Love you guys
@MangoMeoww
@MangoMeoww 2 жыл бұрын
This podcast is awesome. :)
@Tophe
@Tophe 2 жыл бұрын
41:59 is solid gold
@giubangio
@giubangio 2 жыл бұрын
Love pop flash but goddamn I miss Semmler casting 🙃
@saratchandrab4384
@saratchandrab4384 2 жыл бұрын
Why did he leave?
@Doomsday499
@Doomsday499 2 жыл бұрын
@@saratchandrab4384 Isn't he casting Valorant?
@4yh4m55
@4yh4m55 2 жыл бұрын
@@saratchandrab4384 because people misunderstood some of his tweets on the ESL gg for all (all women league) and everyone was calling him misogynist and all sorts of shit so he didn't leave, TO's won't hire him because they're scared of community backlash
@adams3903
@adams3903 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doomsday499 dont think so
@lastneighbour
@lastneighbour 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one guys!
@GlidingCrow
@GlidingCrow 2 жыл бұрын
The intro is a banger
@annie8418
@annie8418 2 жыл бұрын
" He needs some milk" thats a goated quote from richard 42:10
@SmLoveBites
@SmLoveBites 2 жыл бұрын
Semmler fucking losing it in the first five minutes is always a sign of a great episode. I hope this one delivers.
@johnnycamine
@johnnycamine 2 жыл бұрын
i love the show, semmler is a great host for these two
@neues3691
@neues3691 2 жыл бұрын
Taking several lineups to or near the top is something very few igls can do.
@mrtuftin
@mrtuftin 2 жыл бұрын
No beef in the scene and niko rocking normal hair has thorin wilting into a midlife crisis. Peak content.
@ShadowWasntHere8433
@ShadowWasntHere8433 2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys think Heroic could transition to a FaZe style where CadiaN is the selfless entry like Karrigan? If so, who gets the AWP?
@gysonoshiro8990
@gysonoshiro8990 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS TRIO
@Melvin730
@Melvin730 2 жыл бұрын
you should've talked more about NIP and the future of the team. With brollan in the team and device is back, I think they can be really strong.
@niigu
@niigu 2 жыл бұрын
Device isnt back though
@flyatnight-1812
@flyatnight-1812 2 жыл бұрын
I tuned back into the csgo tournaments around Katowice group stages and instantly I favoured faze and gambit. I think the lost csgo meta now is headshot percentage during sprays and taps. Headshots during sprays really show your mechanics off well, as well as the fact that headshots are soo underrated in that headshots are critical in multi kills. If you just spray one dude down you just get instantly traded. Faze and gambit also had such good trading. So often when watching faze matches I just see multiple faze deaths followed by instant trades. It’s like “oh no worries we lost 3 players in 5 seconds because somehow now it’s a 2v2 and faze has the bomb site” Headshot percentage is also why na is trash because their games most of them only spray opponents down with no headshots during spray. Also they can’t trade. Navi and g2 are ok. Navi aim is better than G2. Navi is a lot sharper than G2 actually but Faze trades players way better than both these teams. I think simple really knows what’s up when he said “the team that deals more damage will win.” Headshots give instant 100 damage enough said. Faze are giving more haircuts allowing them to multi frag allowing them to win 4v5 and win ecos. What’s also not talked about is how every faze player seems to be able to pop off on a per round basis. For example, This round ropz 4K, this round Kerrigan clutch, this round broky hero awp play, this round twistzz triple haircut, this round rain double entry. Other teams are like hunter popped off vs faze, or hades popped off on overpass on a per game basis. I saw this is gambit however both their aim as well as their team cohesion with trading instantly dropped a lot. I feel like nafany is not doing a good enough job. But then it could also be hard for them.
@JOSTEINFR
@JOSTEINFR 2 жыл бұрын
Good take! Noticed aswell that Faze has started to trade much better, I also think when he said “the team that deals more damage will win.” he also meant trades, if you can come out of a trade with a man advantage you are much better off in afterplants.
@zenix4416
@zenix4416 2 жыл бұрын
The truth has been spoken.
@3jesus3christ3
@3jesus3christ3 2 жыл бұрын
well said
@kronniichiwa9909
@kronniichiwa9909 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the faze segments
@ipsitnayak5109
@ipsitnayak5109 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever there is a Thorin rant on karrigan it heals my heart❤️❤️❤️🥺🥺🥺
@mnnervi
@mnnervi 2 жыл бұрын
When they said "Who's working the major" felt so sad, this might be the first major I watch with music on.
@HaasTheFirst
@HaasTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
Love these talks, like a by the numbers spin off!
@MatDuJardin
@MatDuJardin 2 жыл бұрын
F... EG just subbed much love
@clinicallyaloof7170
@clinicallyaloof7170 2 жыл бұрын
Fok EG
@tomaszpotrawa8739
@tomaszpotrawa8739 2 жыл бұрын
great content as alwyas
@ibrahimabokor7366
@ibrahimabokor7366 2 жыл бұрын
Reasons to why Gambit does not go over with the fans could be their style of play is not as flashy as NaVi/G2 for example. The playstyle is tactical like Astralis 2018 but not obviously as dominant or close to their own level tactically during covid. So you are in a middleground where you don’t know what to feel and the underwhelming results does not help either when it matters
@gem.2674
@gem.2674 2 жыл бұрын
it's even deeper than that. i would go as far as to say that they're the most hated team right now, even more than heroic is, because the hatred towards heroic is at least focused mainly on cadian/the original core. but GMB is damned if they do and damned if they don't: lose a match? LMAO good to see the onliners are being put in their place!!! win the match? it was a tier3 team, whatever. there are many "reasons" and at the same time there doesn't seem to be one. nafany is a little obnoxious with his yelling? sh1ro is too thin? ax1le suddenly ghosts in an important third map? interz got flashed and couldn't kill all three Ts? can't imagine how it feels to be them, especially right now
@triturn8676
@triturn8676 2 жыл бұрын
@@gem.2674 Heroic is hated way more than Gambit/players
@gem.2674
@gem.2674 2 жыл бұрын
@@triturn8676 it doesnt seem like it to me but ok
@TopOnTops
@TopOnTops 2 жыл бұрын
@@gem.2674 heroic is much more hated than gambit lmao.. gambit just onliners when they lose heroic cheaters, onliners, comedian, kekw hunden cam XDDD
@-0zyMandiass-
@-0zyMandiass- 2 жыл бұрын
so who were the ones who were "fighting" maybe krelle k0nfig and kasper cadian
@ittahadsian3342
@ittahadsian3342 2 жыл бұрын
Thoorin is a much better guest than host
@KeefeL
@KeefeL 2 жыл бұрын
This whole gla1ve or karrigan debate has too many facets to really fit into one little debate. Just a couple points: Gla1ve changed the nade meta, led the most decorated team, etc. Karrigan can elevate practically any line-up to top 5 (or even top 1) contention. What he did with the rag-tag team of Mouseports is just mind-blowing, and of course the current Faze roster. We can also point out the negatives, that gla1ve is struggling recently, especially with the firepower downgrades and Astralis being a shit org recently, caring about money and publicity over quality. He can't pull off those insane comebacks anymore and go off the stratbook like karrigan does. But we also have to talk about Karrigan's issues with egotistical players like Niko and Woxic, thereby losing control. Not saying it's necessarily his fault here, but results do matter. Also I've seen lots of people here in the utopia named KZbin comments section saying gla1ve is fraudulent or does not deserve his praise because it was karrigan's team before. The point is - did he achieve the same things? Did they used to choke massive games? Yes maybe the org hiring a sports psychologist may be a swaying part of the change, but karrigan was also there for that change. Just my 2 pence, we're only scraping the surface of this conversation. Their skillsets are so different. Both are fucking brilliant.
@HungTran-gz5em
@HungTran-gz5em 2 жыл бұрын
Imo Karrigan's current situation on the new Faze roster doesnt say much. Having legits aimbots like twistzz and ropz (best lurker in the world imo), and super consistent rain and broky make strats less relevant. Doesnt require much in the way of tactics when your anchor trades for 2 or 3 every CT round, and your entry 1 taps the anchor every T round. We'll have to wait when teams anti-strat him, and see how Faze does.
@KeefeL
@KeefeL 2 жыл бұрын
@@HungTran-gz5em I must agree, but only to a certain extent. Karrigan did not only bring this current roster to trophies, but as I've mentioned, even the seeming confusing line-up of the old Mousesports roster. Dupreeh was the only entry fragger to be in the top 20 (hell, mostly top 10) to be consistently there year after year. Gla1ve had a rifler that turned into the entire franchises' most consistent player and AWPer with the most MVP medals. It's not as simple as saying one is more deserving than the other
@0Adnin
@0Adnin 2 жыл бұрын
If Karrigan Wins Major this Year. I think he will solidify his legacy of One the Top 5 GOAT IGL. But I agree with your take.
@caponebd7941
@caponebd7941 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m crazy, but I’m actually pretty high on the new liquid. Elige, Naf, and Osee are all playing good, and they seem to be on the same page in terms of how they want to play. To me it looked like they had a good formula for future success. I guess if you expected immediate success it would be disappointing though.
@TheBelgianEmperor
@TheBelgianEmperor 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that they need to give this team more time, like you would with G2, Vitality, etc. However, I don't think their ceiling is higher than maybe a play-offs team. I just don't see how they would beat any of the top teams. Faze, NaVi, Gambit/Players, G2, NIP, Furia, VP/Outsiders are all better than them, and I can't imagine them surpassing them. Vitality has a much higher ceiling and who knows what ENCE will do in the future. They seem similar to Faze where they have a really good core of fraggers in EliGe, NAF and oSee, but nitr0 is just ways below karrigan as an IGL and shox can't have the performance rain does anymore. I think that this team's ceiling is getting to the semi-finals of a big tournament if the match-ups favour them. But at best they are consistently top 8, which is fine for this team, but not what you want from your best NA team.
@caponebd7941
@caponebd7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBelgianEmperor I don't see how this Liquid has a low ceiling at all. They could have 3 top 20 players if Osee keeps up this form, and that alone puts them above many teams in terms of firepower. The only teams I would put out of reach right now would be Faze, Navi, G2, and Players.
@TheBelgianEmperor
@TheBelgianEmperor 2 жыл бұрын
@@caponebd7941 I agree that they have a strong fragging trio, but nitro and shox bring very little. Meanwhile teams like NIP and Furia don't have a glaring weakness in the way they do. If EliGe, NAF and oSee can consistently have 2 out of 3 fragging against the top teams (which so far hasn't been the case), then I follow you. But apart from that, their ceiling is top 8. Not bad, but not high either. Not what I'd be aiming for with a trio like that and the funds of Liquid.
@caponebd7941
@caponebd7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBelgianEmperor Sure Nitro and Shox aren't fraggers, but I think you're seriously selling them short. Nitro has a 0.97 rating, and Shox has a 0.95 rating so far on liquid, which is actually a huge improvement over Stewie and Grim from the previous roster.
@singular9
@singular9 2 жыл бұрын
Best csgo show out there. Needs moar beer.
@ArdeeRaccoon
@ArdeeRaccoon 2 жыл бұрын
I think the closest you'd get to an IGL that builds (alot) teams and wins trophies with them is Daps...
@Shinobaekun
@Shinobaekun 2 жыл бұрын
I love these three men. Comment for algorithm
@hobonise
@hobonise 2 жыл бұрын
helping out that algorithm
@drakenwinter8386
@drakenwinter8386 2 жыл бұрын
It's karrigan and gla1ve for me. One who can build teams from scratch (and thankfully finally found his success) and one who changed what "teamwork" could mean in CSGO (and stayed dominant at the top for years). God-tier IGLs!
@JustAPokemonCommentingOnVideos
@JustAPokemonCommentingOnVideos 2 жыл бұрын
these 2 legends are soo much better than anyone else that its insane #1 and #2 are close but #3 goat igl ( i don't even know who it is) is going to be far away from these 2 ; they kinda compete in their own hemisphere
@ATS1031
@ATS1031 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustAPokemonCommentingOnVideos zues karrigan and glaive in no order
@tyby2076
@tyby2076 2 жыл бұрын
Glaive could build teams as well if Astralis wouldnt pick the worst players in denmark or keep already washed players. Give glaive the faze roster and we would get another era immediately.
@ATS1031
@ATS1031 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyby2076 dont think so he still has a choice in the rosters but he kept lucky and xyp he was the one who didnt want bubszki and this astralis team definitely isnt dog shit but his t sides are horrible
@tyby2076
@tyby2076 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATS1031 It is dog shit.. You have 2 players who have very escalating k/d usually more bad maps than good. Faze has consistently good players all around. I doubt he is the one who has a say who leaves and who stays, more his org has. If it was up to him doubt he would let Magisk and dupreeh leave or zonic..
@carstenown
@carstenown 2 жыл бұрын
good stuff
@ILikeTuwtles
@ILikeTuwtles 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think an international roster (i.e. they all speak different native languages) has ever won a major.
@issamelarmi
@issamelarmi 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to Richard for the "He needs some milk!" reference :D
@camthomson1684
@camthomson1684 2 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming! Quickly becoming my favourite CSGO content!
@Kyncoclips
@Kyncoclips 2 жыл бұрын
Made my shieet work day so much better
@Eidolon5150
@Eidolon5150 2 жыл бұрын
At his peak glaive was a bit better but karrigan in terms of being able to change and adapt on top of his fun personality makes in the number one as of now
@bluntforcetrauma7970
@bluntforcetrauma7970 2 жыл бұрын
Thoorin should really cast a game or two for pgl major
@speedysquibbles
@speedysquibbles 2 жыл бұрын
Thorin spitting fire
@user-id7ms7dr2x
@user-id7ms7dr2x 2 жыл бұрын
YES. I can say it out loud for sure.
@rodrigosanroman5721
@rodrigosanroman5721 2 жыл бұрын
Pls man, we need subtitles for thorin
@DestinyApes
@DestinyApes 2 жыл бұрын
... ?
@rodrigosanroman5721
@rodrigosanroman5721 2 жыл бұрын
@@DestinyApes it's hard for non native speakers to understand Irish/Scottish accents
@imtikharkongor
@imtikharkongor 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Biblionaut
@Biblionaut 2 жыл бұрын
4:20 god damn i love thorin
@XD-or6sc
@XD-or6sc 2 жыл бұрын
YES!
@CaVCS
@CaVCS 2 жыл бұрын
Great shoe
@iwnl_vale
@iwnl_vale 2 жыл бұрын
Be on the lookout for Furia, they're just getting started.
@ArunKumar-bp5lo
@ArunKumar-bp5lo 2 жыл бұрын
random question can Konfig be top 10 player of 2022???
@zicodennisvalentino748
@zicodennisvalentino748 2 жыл бұрын
No, the only year he was in was 2017 ranked 12 or something. After that nothing, even on complexity with blamef ranked top 5 on 2020.
@ArunKumar-bp5lo
@ArunKumar-bp5lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@zicodennisvalentino748 u know the future??he maybe if he is consistent
@zicodennisvalentino748
@zicodennisvalentino748 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArunKumar-bp5lo "You know the future"? You asked a speculative question about k0nfigs future. "he maybe if he is consistent" Speak again, but in english.
@ados256
@ados256 2 жыл бұрын
I’m torn, is this show better than BTN?
@OnFireAni
@OnFireAni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@EqualizerLNF
@EqualizerLNF 2 жыл бұрын
The only IGL in the scene right now who can even challenge karrigan in the future is aleksib assuming his stars actually show up when they're supposed to. If G2 can win some big trophies it would also give him the legitimacy to eventually build his own teams and having every tier 1 player imaginable trusting his calls one hundred percent like the stars on karrigans faze are trusting him now.
@ribzyy
@ribzyy 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I see aleski feeling the pressure of igling such a good roster and not performing. He’s been so lacklustre. Hopefully not tho would love to see Niko finally win a major :)
@EqualizerLNF
@EqualizerLNF 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribzyy Then we havent been watching the same games. He is a massive multiplier to the team already, but niko slumping while monesy is yet to become truly impactful and reliable awper is holding g2 back, not his IGLing. Did you not watch the first 3 epl games without him igling?
@ribzyy
@ribzyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@EqualizerLNF yea wit amanek? they didnt look good, obviously aleski is a great player and like i said i hope G2 succeed.
@baconhandjob
@baconhandjob 2 жыл бұрын
lets go
@no3396
@no3396 2 жыл бұрын
pop flash is cool and also good content
@SkyAttacker52
@SkyAttacker52 2 жыл бұрын
If its -rain only person I can see fill in for him and is AS good as him is yekindar
@juliangabrieltinapay6738
@juliangabrieltinapay6738 2 жыл бұрын
Or if FaZe want to go younger, they can get xertioN from Mouz NXT
@jordanlimantara1814
@jordanlimantara1814 2 жыл бұрын
*Slowly becomes a baltic team
@drkrn
@drkrn 2 жыл бұрын
How likely is it for Heroic to steal Snappi from ENCE and just go for something like a 2019 TL run where you don't even play the awp that much
@adams3903
@adams3903 2 жыл бұрын
might be wrong but was the TL no-awp thing not during one of the krieg/aug metas?
@juliankernstock5180
@juliankernstock5180 2 жыл бұрын
Semmler
@cm386464
@cm386464 2 жыл бұрын
Gambit by any other name play just as well. -Some old dead dude from that island Rich is from
@stewartminges
@stewartminges 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean cold fusion lol
@n.a.1203
@n.a.1203 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a banger, lads!
@wrigglymule
@wrigglymule 2 жыл бұрын
Thorin is funny as fuck, only watched 5 mins so far
@yaroshiroki5472
@yaroshiroki5472 2 жыл бұрын
just to overtake EG ;)
@peterenis3507
@peterenis3507 2 жыл бұрын
58:50 karrigan playing fckin moneyball in the server to replace a simple
@rob1z278
@rob1z278 2 жыл бұрын
broky and ropz top 8 this year imo.
@primtve_dope9568
@primtve_dope9568 2 жыл бұрын
broky felt a little underwhelming this last final but yeah insane players. probably all 5 will be top 20 if they continue playing like this
@rob1z278
@rob1z278 2 жыл бұрын
Wasnt he the best rated player in this final?:D He was meh in semi-finals , i know that, but against Navi a.k.a best all around player s1mple , he was winning duels.
@BURRDAWG_
@BURRDAWG_ 2 жыл бұрын
They need to fire elige and hire someone who will go after solid players and not washed ass teammates
@vibes24osrs
@vibes24osrs 2 жыл бұрын
Karrigan is a GOAT
@LordQuode
@LordQuode 2 жыл бұрын
Karrigan is top 3 all time. Objectively #2 in terms of S Tier tournament wins, especially considering the number of teams he has led to said wins. Personally, he is my favorite IGL because he is not just a caller, but a leader, a commander of character. Tons of tacticians have graced CS in the IGL role, from Gla1ve to MSL, and Alex to Stanislaw, but almost none of those guys regularly elevate their teammate's chemistry and ingame form simultaneously... Let alone whilst speaking a 2nd language. Hope Karrigan can keep this form and team to win a Grand Slam as well as the Major this year.
@fraud8256
@fraud8256 2 жыл бұрын
Depends really. If your only going to take trophies into account than sure. But you’ve got to consider karrigan has led teams time and time again to the top of the rankings including several teams that objectively shouldn’t have been able to compete. Glaive has done it with 1 core. Sure he is the greatest achieving igl or all time. But if your making a random team of players your going to pick karrigan to lead it over him 99-100
@trayzyntheinfinite4762
@trayzyntheinfinite4762 2 жыл бұрын
Very important episode for CadiaN to watch
@BiruSyailendra
@BiruSyailendra 2 жыл бұрын
Please mention him the link 😂😂😂
@ipsitnayak5109
@ipsitnayak5109 2 жыл бұрын
Gooooodd SHittttttttt
@HaasTheFirst
@HaasTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
Casuals think Glaive is the goat IGL for the majors, true Fans now this isn't true. Everyone knows the argument with Karrigan having let 4 completely different rosters to no1. But there is a even better one: Astralis 2018/2019 was the goat team, no argument. They had at the time the goat (device, now of course overtaken B s1mple), the arguably best coach ever, the best clutch player (Minister) and two insane riflers. So you are telling me on top of that Glaive is the goat igl? So the Astralis prime team just had goats in all the positions? Or maybe, just maybe, the team worked and clicked perfect together? And that's why they won so much? Glaive has to do it at least with one more team to prove he can do it not only with one roster.
@dentonkellyjr8095
@dentonkellyjr8095 2 жыл бұрын
nah he still has a case, the dude found structure and tactics that fit the team's talent and went balls off, glave is as important as the other members.
@mateogarcia6942
@mateogarcia6942 2 жыл бұрын
Shit bangs
@kane3215
@kane3215 2 жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm
@wythnk
@wythnk 2 жыл бұрын
TL gotta get better before elige can really shit talk anyone
@l.d.j.1341
@l.d.j.1341 2 жыл бұрын
damn, thorin's mic is real shite
@Kappatalism
@Kappatalism 2 жыл бұрын
Thorin is so fake when it comes to big boi Carrygan, a year ago he would say he is washed up and needs Niko to survive but look at him now (number1 team in the world arguably) glad he getting his props tho!
@KeefeL
@KeefeL 2 жыл бұрын
42:05 hahahah except Blamef! He's thicc!
@tuomoroiha1073
@tuomoroiha1073 2 жыл бұрын
This Faze hype is actually really weird. They are obviously on a honeymoon period and ppl are hyping them to the fucking stars. Lets see if can they keep it up.....
@franzralphuy6826
@franzralphuy6826 2 жыл бұрын
Just like B1t joining Navi honeymmoon period?
@tuomoroiha1073
@tuomoroiha1073 2 жыл бұрын
@@franzralphuy6826 Yes and NAVI went beyond the honeymoon to have an era.
@franzralphuy6826
@franzralphuy6826 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuomoroiha1073 winning katowice and winning ESL and beating almost all the Top teams is not worth the hype?
@de_prod1gy965
@de_prod1gy965 2 жыл бұрын
you guys are so toxic I love it
@pocketfiddz
@pocketfiddz 2 жыл бұрын
He needs some milk.... totally buckled me holy hell
@triccster6772
@triccster6772 2 жыл бұрын
Wooo FaZe won the Major!!!!!
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