Pop Flash: NO HOPE for Dev1ce & NIP?! BLAST Fall Finals CSGO Review

[@DexertoCSGO]

Will dev1ce regret leaving Astralis? 🤔

[@dfsempire2712]

Yes astralis will soon start their new era while nip will keep crashing

[@janethevirgin1080]

Shost answer: yes, long answer: hell yes

[@fidgeysrii4888]

Pls put time stamps into the description like hltv it’s much easier to watch that way

[@g0ldcod]

@@fidgeysrii4888 watch the video 🙂

[@dfsempire2712]

@@g0ldcod Too long

[@lavincex6521]

I'm loving this new series and Semmler being the host

[@galax12370]

semmler stepping in for anders is one of the coolest memories I will have. Semmler is that friend everybody needs but none deserves

[@oORoOFLOo]

Semmler I love you, I never understood why people hated you. You and Anders are vital part of the best CSGO's period around 2015. Now hopefully we get another one and I'm glad you are part of it.

[@waibhavkrishnaChandra]

@@TheRagingSun just James :D

[@kennyg7163]

lol where did you hear that semmler is hated?

[@cainesy7913]

@@kennyg7163 he left csgo to cast owl and people didnt like it

[@Monkeytownboss]

@@kennyg7163 thoorin even said it in the intro

[@Cuestar]

that happiness joke was next level

[@iwnl_vale]

I've heard it before and it still hits the same, such a sick joke.

[@goldnutter412]

No sound yet but.. slam dunk ? was it dunkin donut meister ? :D hi5 to you sir and many thanks

[@14_IQ.points]

Shox holding back tears after getting insta booed was pretty damn sad but that has to be the funniest thing in cs since waking up to flusha commiting tax evasion

[@NoorNabiLakho2020]

He dosen't deserve that he is one of the greatest player of all time he is a legend crowd should've showed some respect to him. He has gave us cs fans soo many memories and they had the AUDACITY to boo him.

[@BURRDAWG_]

@@NoorNabiLakho2020 I'm a French hater and I still give shox, happy, kio, ex6, naked, apex, rpk, and scream and the ones I can't remember their names. But they all brought alot to cs and deserve praise

[@omnaaggvin3747]

its kinda sad considering it migth be shoxes last big lan, but its realy apexes fault the extent the crowd hated vitality, every time they won a round he stood up and made faces or put his hand to his ear.

[@NoorNabiLakho2020]

@@omnaaggvin3747 I think Astralis fans were booing them soo much and apex was taunting them.

[@patrickleenardi]

@@omnaaggvin3747 not really, if you really watched the event as a whole the crowd was just really biased/clueless against danish teams

[@stardustmarshtomp3116]

A mockumentary of Thorin coaching a French team using that French accent would be incredible.

[@bagmilker1558]

About the crowd part, I still think it's worth to applause the losing team for the effort, not acknowledging they did something I could dream of doing is just bad manners

[@saratchandrab4384]

Be like Taz 🎉

[@Bendwow]

Participation awards are for little league not for professionals making $25k+ a month.

[@BlackCat-dx5qi]

12:20 it's probably the same guy who met Richard and confused him for Anders , one of the greatest bits of BTN

[@kingderk]

semmler deadass made me do a double take and leave the video because of the intro! I thought it was the previous one haha. Havent watched just yet but loved the three of you in the previous one.

[@nyanray]

Hahah, same, I had to check the date :D

[@j.doele1620]

I went to the game where devin brooker of the suns dropped 70 on my team the celts but the home Celtics crowd was going crazy for him bc his exceptional skill outshone the game on the day

[@ERACLAB]

from spectator's perspective it looked like Na'Vi's regular starts for Nuke T side absolutely crushed Vitality in that upper final. They definitely decided to try new strats that they developed and it seems like the strats were too raw and Boombl4 wasn't on point to fix them in mid round. I don't even remember their typical A default that is so good, neither they tried anything typical on ramp. All through outside and vent and just like with G2 they kept trying it until the half ended and they lost it. The difference is that they came back vs G2 and here they got some unlucky timings on CT with first gun round and then got snowballed on. I am no pro and I likely overlooked many things, but in general it seems like Na'Vi treated that Nuke in final as a learning experience for new strats, because Heroic and G2 are already close enough and it is worrying for their strongest map. On the upside they demolished Vitality on Inferno after that.

[@deekayy3222]

boombl4 doesn't call midround, s1mple does

[@someguy535]

The only instance I can remember where the crowd actually boo’d the opponent’s team in a professional sport, is when the Houston Astro’s go to Dodgers stadium, and well, for obvious reasons.

[@Samuel48733]

Love this series, love this trio, looking foreward to more. In this episode i especially enjoyed Semmlers insights to Arena Casting and what he, as a caster, has to watch out for there. Rest was dope as well, just wanted to point that one out.

[@TheSanien]

As a Danish CS GO fan I am incredibly embarrassed of how the fans acted in Royal Arena. Cheer as hard as you can for your team but stop with the booing. These guys put everything they have into their sport they deserved a minimum of respect. Booing at Shocks (which is a great player and funny guy) was just low AF. I think the booing of Heroic comes down to them getting busted for cheating most people don't believe for 1 sec. that the other players or org didn't know anything at all before or after. But ironically when the fans tried to help Astralis during play is just as much cheating (by the fans of course not Astralis). Vitality did great and deserved more respect this goes for any team really.

[@apexIegends]

Lol you’re soft and haven’t to been at any live sports event. It’s part of the sport deal with it.

[@vchair23]

Semmlers comments on how the quietness effected his casting was really interesting

[@anuragsenapaty]

Being an astralis fan feels weird rn.

[@DestinyApes]

These have been really solid. Big fan of these event previews and reviews. More of this!

[@nicoth4787]

If Vitality wanted the best team, they should have bought Jackz from G2, but because Magisk and co were contract free, they seized the opportunity. But fuck me -Kyojin +Jackz would have been as impressive on paper.

[@franzralphuy6826]

The one I disagree with is the Misutaa take. He was consistently the 2nd best player for Vitality for the whole blast event you can argue on some maps he was the best player impact wise.

[@userunknown3761]

The discussion at the start of the video is very similar to a constant struggle in the MMA fan community. Growth in the community is great for production value and the income of players and organisations, but it lowers the percentage of hardcore fans and increases the percentage of casual fans. In MMA they worship the likes of McGregor, Khabib and other stars, in CS it’s Astralis

[@PigeonPantz]

Good thought/analogy... but in this case it was only for the Danes and Astralis. And its happened historically for Astralis as well before a theoretical "mainstream boost." They might have said "hardcore fans" once but in reality they just meant fans of CS. They are pointing to the fact that Astralis the company with its Danish media and even polutical connections fostered this. Its not even really star chasers its just Astralis indoctrination and media contol in Denmark. All in all very few people in esports have a problem with nationalism in esports. It generally means people, like the Polish crowd, cheer MORE when old VP were winning. But here we are talking bad sportsmanship and cheating for a single team (bc notably the all danish Heroic lineup were also excluded)

[@FuRyHate]

In my opinion Device will have the same fate as Kyearby after he left Astralis for North , unless NIP Solves every piece together .

[@asda690]

" The Joke is...." - Thorin This should be a T-shirt

[@VaadiBhat]

Semmler and Thorin together will never dissapoint!

[@JosephPembroke]

just throwing this out there, from a fan pov, I had no complaints about either tournament whatsoever.

[@alexb1185]

my favourite part of blast was the team intros, they were amazing

[@wojciechwolak2832]

Poorly performing Dev1ce is Christmas for Thorin

[@tyemorris9056]

I mean maybe but you know Thorin and device set aside their beef already right?

[@awasthishivam]

Amen

[@nyanray]

nah, menz, Thorin wants to see good CS and dev1ce performing is one way of getting that :( ...

[@IPrinzeX]

Im sorry has Thorin forgot about ESL One Cologne 2015? TaZ had to go on stage and tell VP fans to show respect to the winning team.

[@Ahrths]

the navi match on nuke tilted me so much because they kept losing to the same strat every round they were not playing like themselves

[@deathglare2455]

29:07 Meanwhile most of the chat be like : Gla1ve stop awping.

[@nyanray]

OK, THIS 5HEAD MOMENT WHERE APEX WAITED 15SECS EXTRA JUST BLEW MY MIND.

[@syx8676]

Actually magisk's second international roster but his time on optic was not so good

[@RobCooper-Bachatador]

Mauisnake needs to go watch the Boombl4 interview where he discussed that the team was arguing against the game plan before the match, couple it with S1mple's interview and this may get the desired result of B1ad3's power might come to question.

[@Fabsh27]

Absolutely love these podcasts, especially with Semmler as the host and Thorin and Maui are straight fire as well!

[@aymenapoca4566]

minute 61 thorin gave me a huge laugh while i was going through horrible stomach pain - god bless you man your sense of humor is undeniable one of the best

[@vaibhavg8925]

Man this show is so much better than hltv confirmed all things are explained with logic instead of just sarcastic comments where you just judge player on stats like Spunj

[@JJJR11]

you cant compare american sports events to the astralis crowd, it is more like a football crowd (Soccer) with lots of booing and alchohol, more like a party 😂

[@snotsnarler1174]

It's the land of the vikings

[@JJJR11]

@@snotsnarler1174 agreed

[@xtrzne]

ONLY AUDIO ISSUE: the background audio during the analyst desk segments was a little on the louder side. But BLAST production was amazing and should host major.

[@fVNzO]

I agree that most of the crowd wasn't real cs players. The fact that you boo shox alone retracts your cs pass. I know a lot of danish cs players. We are all astralis fans. We all don't really like heroic. All of us also really like vitality and navi. If astralis chokes we call them a bunch of chokers and move on. These guys weren't cs fans.

[@Jcz487]

1:00:32 Best Out of Context Thorin clip ever!

[@oORoOFLOo]

From the little interaction I saw on camera, ZyWoo seems to be in really good relationship with Shox and I'm a bit afraid he might feel way less comfortable in the the roster, might have negative impact on him.

[@TheFSF1]

Love this podcast, keep it going

[@liammcgartland3600]

i legit turned the ep off because i thought it was the last episode because of the joke. glad i stayed

[@whheguy]

Ngl I nearly closed the video thinking it was the last episode which I've already watched 🤣

[@konrad9822]

I get the whole scripting argument, but in a way that could also be a good thing. I think it shows the confidence in your own gameplan and your individuals. I would give Boombl4 the benefit of the doubt in this case. He calls solid rounds and their protocols are very solid and I personally think that the whole team behind Navi (analysts and shit) do such a fantastic job that Boombl4 only has to do the in game leading and not the strat-creating. I would even argue that B1ad3 can spot things like the Kyojin thing on Nuke quite well and most of the time calls a timeout. I would also be interested in a statistic, how many rounds straight after a timeout are won by Navi, I feel like that number is pretty high. In essence I think that Navi´s system works right now and is very hard to criticize because they´re literally winning every tournament, most of the time by a far margin.

[@franzralphuy6826]

The thing about Maui's argument in Nuke is that in this Meta who wins the outside control wins the round regardless of who is in the sites. Yes Kyojin is dogshit but he still has the superior angles thats why Vitality put him in that position.

[@marcelahernandez369]

thoss dusty ass pixels in the top left of the screen confused my drunk ass like 4 times. I thought there was like dirt or dust on my phone. Why is there random brown spots around the pop flash logo?

[@jordanlimantara1814]

It fucking floored me to see and realize cuz I am a bit slow, how much of the crowd was just there for astralis XD Also it really warmed my heart when chad absolutely destroyed them during half time, bringing up how it wasn't about your nation you clowns! But for the amount time, dedication, and heart every player poured in their career and for a chance in this event.

[@gnomemercycs5578]

I dont think you should cheer for the opposing team during the match, but after the match is over, it's over and you should thank both teams for their effort and for putting up a good match, don't be an asshole and boo shox during the interview about him winning the first major or shit like that, that's just childish.

[@bullerfugl]

absolutely fantastic content boys

[@-crypt0]

Hahaha the sandwich is good but I asked for mustard, where is the mustard!

[@austinsmith8561]

I understand the crowd bias part but if you’ve ever been to a college football game the stadiums are completely one sided and it’s what they were explaining but on a whole different level

[@dieobstkeule4369]

Bring this show to spotify

[@TalesByAJ]

THORIN is so aggressive man

[@miko7279]

Great content!

[@damien5887]

Vitality should never have cut RPK. Imo he made the players around him better.

[@aidanwood4826]

Get Semmler on BTN as a guest.

[@fiebz3835]

I strongly believe in Lucky

[@ipsitnayak5109]

Man thorin is in Straight fire in this episode. Loving the content

[@ivanvan8923]

I highly doubt they go by a script...b1ad3 even said the reason why he picked boombl4 is because he doesn't follow a script...and for having following their teamspeak @ cologne, boombl4 was always telling his players what to do. At this point we really need to give credit where its due, he's a great caller.

[@Nunez87]

Also I find it funny how Thorin thinks only Astralis fans are like this and that it's an isolated area. Ever watch football? (Soccer for the US) watch the big tournaments where once the home team gets knocked out, 90% of the fans disappear.

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

Thanks Semmler for all you do for CS. We don't deserve you.

[@apexIegends]

Terrible take by bottom right about Bill Walsh and scripted plays at 1:10:30. He says Navi fails to adapt because they run scripted plays. This guy fails to recognize why teams run scripted plays the first few rounds is to get a feel for the other team.

[@MrBlue2589]

Every other word Maui says is "like", nails on a chalk board, I need to tap out

[@abhinovgogoi8090]

The take on navi was surreal ngl 🔥

[@axel_098]

They should replace Lucky with Zyphon and Astralis would be way better

[@DanishVikings]

the whole narrative, that there was no cs fans, only gamers and stuff, really makes the cs fans there lumped in with the bad actors.. can we acknowledged there was good fans there too?

[@marcdemontbron9657]

i wish blast ran majors

[@Nathan-hs2ut]

Great show, Thorin with the bangers as usual

[@john-hanner]

12:21 ok thats banter af lmaooo who is this guy

[@Knightsthatsaynih]

The crowd was terrible. To not cheer for Cadian's flick onto Gla1ve on mirage, or to boo Karrigan. You have to be really biased to pull of stuff like that.

[@pontusrehnfjell6094]

Nip should get a "igl" and hampus can play another role

[@Leocorde82]

Basically NIP's problem since forever. Although with nawwk they were looking better for awhile.

[@10millions40]

Nip five steps ahead of Astralis by the way :)

[@Marcus120489]

A quick search for NA crowd on Reddit shows several post mentioning booing and cheating like GO A, and posts of the crowd favoring liquid over other NA teams as CLG. And these posts are as old as 5 years (ore older) This doesn’t make it right it just goes against all of thorins arguments that it’s only the Danish crowd that behaves this bad (sadly)

[@Timurkani]

thorin never miss thorin never fold

[@tuomoroiha1073]

LMAO NAVI won like 20 Nukes in a row and Maiu is talking about one half that he doesnt think Boombl4 is a good IGL. Cmon.......

[@scapegoat4]

I'm wondering if astralis is willing to give natosaphix a try? He's been wanting to AWP for a long time now, why not trial him? It's not like there are very many available danish AWPers, either...

[@SwiftGamingDk]

Farlig just became a free agent

[@nickdigiovanni498]

34:19 Killed me

[@papitoal3x]

Lucky was good. You lot are trippin

[@jdc6354]

He was avg at best

[@Martin-zn5hk]

Bubzkji has played terribly every time Astralis put him in. In no world should he have played instead of Lucky.

[@xtrzne]

MORE OF THIS

[@samgriffith8086]

Thorin spot on 5:10

[@wrigglymule]

It wasn't hard-core cs fans because of covid, shame really but bums needed to be in seats

[@jonasbindslev9894]

Anyone who watches European football shouldn't be surprised at the way the Danish crowd behaved. If my team is in the server, you bet I'm only cheering for them and booing the opponents who are trying to knock my team out. I'll cheer any good play when I'm a neutral spectator, but I'm definitely not cheering at the opponent when my team is playing. Why is that so surprising?

[@michael-gb3rn]

i guess you haven't seen much football then lmao. Danish football crowd is some of the least toxic people out there. and you apparently have no clue how LAN work in csgo. if this was in France the crowd would have done the same for vitality, or if it was in Ukraine/Russia same for Navi.

[@3xceIIent]

"If my team is in the server" Thats the whole point. It is when your team isn't in the server that they are talking about. "I'll cheer any good play when I'm a neutral spectator, but I'm definitely not cheering at the opponent when my team is playing." This is the exact opposite of what happened. Astralis was already knocked out of the tournament and two other teams were playing the grand final.

[@jonasbindslev9894]

@@3xceIIent they were also talking about how the crowd were booing the opposite team, and how the crowd was quiet when Astralis weren't winning rounds. And I know it was two other teams in the final - I was talking about the Astralis games. I was cheering for both teams during the final. Are you aware there were other games than the final?

[@jonasbindslev9894]

@@michael-gb3rn exactly, the crowd would have done the same for Navi and Vitality in France and Russia! And I've been to every AaB home game this season, so I know what the crowd is like. The opponents get booed on the pitch. The opponents get booed if they do a rough tackle on one of the home players. The opponents get booed if they get injured. That's how it is here and in all other European countries where the fans care enough to support their own team.

[@lakke0001]

U Cant really compare it to football. Football is competition based on home and away games so ofc 90-95% is home team biased. This is a tournament where more than 2 teams play. So the problem is there wasn't enough fans from other countries (maybe cuz of covid) . I don't think many People have problems with booing opponents and Apex reacting to it cuz that's why we missed LAN events. I don't think it was toxic at all. It was just to one sided

[@ehsanghoushi9924]

that is not a solution to make astralis fans also cheers for other teams. thorin dude its not kindergarten, people can cheer every team they want

[@officialezzy6801]

Its a live arena, its the same in all sports. Csgo is gorowing. Csgo is getting actual real stuff. Let crowds be in the moment and cheer and give the reality of live sport. Lets stop whining about everything all the time. Get fucking over it. :P

[@Simtalnius]

i like the idea of the content but its just too long to come out this often. noone has time for that and it shows in the views

[@TomHGameplay]

You have to love thorin 😂😂

[@sayidkariman2410]

Goated podcast

[@aakash950]

Kyojin level of bad on A Come on dude you are gold nova you don't even know the call outs

[@SwiftGamingDk]

As an Astralis fan there I would like to apologize for the loud minority, noted they’re piss drunk, there was a lot of new fans mostly from football, some of the soccer fans tends to be very toxic, but as someone who was there no where near the whole astralis crowd boo and gave info. And with the people leaving, the pause between the semifinal and the final with was around dinner time and a lot people when out to eat elsewhere because the lack of food choices/prices, and people has to work also

[@heathaen]

I was there I saw that too. I was I guess only faze fan as well hahah. Everyone trying to tell info to players or scream shoot. No1 cheering for underdog. My first tournament Ive been on production was amazing but astralis fans... eh

[@jonasbindslev9894]

How was Faze or Heroic the underdog? Astralis have been playing together for like one week. I'm not cheering for the team who are trying to knock my team out of the tournament. Get outta here 😂

[@heathaen]

@@jonasbindslev9894 so astralis were underdog? With whole arena behind them and ppl shouting info for them? Whats your Point?

[@noxe6413]

@@heathaen People shooting info have been since the beginning of this game.Just because they tried to give info doesn t mean the players on Astralis took that info.Astralis is the GOAT but people still couldn t stop trashing them this entire year.They deserved this.

[@heathaen]

Core line up was best there was so what, we cannot critisise them? What are u guys talking about? Its tour feelings that could your perspective

[@jonasbindslev9894]

@@heathaen of course you can criticize them. They have some big problems that they need to fix, mainly their T sides. But don't pretend Astralis were the favourites for the Faze or Heroic game.

[@apexIegends]

I get Rekkless vibes from Device. All he does is play victim and can’t win without a good team.

[@ndexer]

"I dont see this happening in any other sports" excuse me what? Any one with a brain knows how toxic the European Football fannase is, that's where it stems from, people take that mentality and bring it to Esports events like in Denmark, 90% of all of those fans in the Royal Arena are some sort of European Football supporter

[@Nunez87]

PGL compared to Blast was a shitfest. The sound was atrocious. Almost as if they didn't bother to do soundchecks. Do stream checks. you know. Regardless of where in the world you are, you ALWAYS do a soundtest before you send. ALWAYS. PGL was as if you watch someone do something for the first time without telling them how to do it. Blast is miles ahead and you can't say "it's because it's their hometurf they're at" That's a poor excuse.

[@christianarnfast2997]

Hahhaaha Thorin is so Salty about Astralis and danish people.

[@userunknown3761]

He’s not salty. They lost lol

[@christianarnfast2997]

@@userunknown3761 brug its not about Them losning just Thorin constantly whine about danish fans as if they are worse than everyone else

[@RasmusRosenkrantz]

@@christianarnfast2997 But he does have a point. Like Danish Cs Go Fans booing at a guy like Karrigan, just because he doesn't play for Astralis is just retarded. Not only hasn't he done anything to desserve beeing booed at, the fact is also he was the one who was a part of creating Astralis until they kicked him. The fans are completely ignorant and don't even respect their own countryman and the person who helped build their so called favourite team.

[@christianarnfast2997]

@@RasmusRosenkrantz he is just holding a Grudge for the whole Flashpoint drama

[@RasmusRosenkrantz]

@@christianarnfast2997 That may be true. Doesn't change the fact that he has a point. And that the Danish so called CS GO fans are retarded for booing at Karrigan.

[@olric63]

A bit of French bashing, that was long overdue…

[@SilentAttackTV]

Thorin > Richard Lewis

[@21stcenturymusicman]

The absolute audacity of Astralis to kick magisk and dupreeh immediately after the major and spit on them on the way out is disgusting. Would it be too much to ask to give them one final tournament with the team, in Copenhagen ffs, and give them a proper sendoff for the legends they are in front of their home fans? it could’ve been so perfect, but Astralis will Astralis

[@randomG998]

As in the video They refused to renew their contract and astralis shaped it as if they kicked them .

[@Nunez87]

did you not watch how magisk and dupreeh played in their last game?? they didn't want to be there. Why would astralis bring them when the team needs to rebuild?

[@enigmabis.]

PGL crowd was much better

[@kennyg7163]

semmler: when things were against astralis it's dead quiet. dota2 TI with chinese crowd: first time? but seriously, to boo pepperoni ni-, i mean shox who has given majority of his life to csgo is really a low blow and totally uncalled for. fuck those fake, plastic danish fans. and boo to glaive and the other astralis players to not even intervene and shut the fans up. if you were a decent pro in your hometown and your homecrowd is booing another team, you should step in and shut them up and tell them to show some respect. you know, like what taz did when vp fans booed olof on an interview in esl cologne. that shouldve been what any astralis member did. but nope.