POP QUIZ: Nut Flush Draw Out Of Position - What do you do here?

I need some feedback from everyone. Villain fired into four players on the flop. And double barreled on the turn when the board paired. This is a $55 buy-in & 40K guaranteed event.

[@JacobSmith-rk2xr]

My thought when I saw that turn card was that as the BB flatter I have far more 8s in my range. I would have led turn for 11.5 BBs. If villain raises we can comfortably fold since the main bluff there is holding the Ah, which he obviously can't have. If he flats we're likely not dead and get to realize our equity at a reasonable price. Given how draw-heavy the board is, he's almost never giving us a free river after we just flat on the flop, so a check is basically a fold.

[@matthewriebel5792]

I probably x/r the flop a lot. As played, I like the fold on the turn.

[@brementmark]

Fold is mandatory when the 8 hits the turn. Yes, the old check R on that flop seems like it is worth exploring

[@stevesullivan6681]

Poker shirt guy here. I only play microstakes and they play differently. They nearly always slow play a flush and full house. His betting represents a pair IMO. The only way I can win the pot is either get villain to fold or actually hit a hand on the river because right now I just have Ace high. I would have donked the turn for about 2/3 and fold to a reraise. If called, I would have a made a 1/3 pot bet on the river. If he had a pair or missed draw, he would fold.

[@garyshelton4301]

Your only getting about 2.5 to 1 to make the call. Hitting the flush is 4 to 1, and you may be drawing dead. Easy fold

[@aloewishus]

man, i can't lay that flush down

[@jamesdavenport1143]

I agree with your analysis. If he already has a flush, you've lost two outs. He's betting like he has a made hand, and as you say, you don't even know if a heart is a winner..

[@stevemarvinrealtor]

i would of folded as well

[@matthewriebel5792]

The flush draw was not to the nuts even before the board paired. He could have 7h 6h for a straight flush.

[@gordon5167]

i would've check raised there reping the 8 with the nut flush draw in the back pocket. but, now that you've explained your thoughts on the hand, i see what you mean. fold is probably the correct play. but, once a fish...........

[@jimdoak3658]

It always depends on how frequently the blinds are being increased during play. The faster the blinds are increased, the more aggressive you have to play. But assuming this game is being played with customary/typical timing on the blind clock, the player on the BB has no business even being in this hand with AT off suit, out of position, and against 4 players raising up to 2BB. This Player on the BB with 2nd highest chip stack should be concentrating on controlling the action, stealing blinds, and only playing hands when in good position (or if he has really strong hole cards). Anyone playing a meh hand like AT off suit from the big blind position more than 10% of the time is playing way too many hands. Play too many hands from out of position, you will always be “chasing” the board, not controlling the board. A chaser player will always have the odds stacked against him over the long term.

[@McGanja420]

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[@ctapscott]

Great video

[@tlea31]

Well played hand

[@MarkusHaberle]

I would have checked/shove the flop bet for sure. My thoughts would be that he cannot Call without a flush. The Nutflush Is blocked and If He hade a Made flush that IS rather small, villain would Bet latger to Project His Hand, and Not get called by an Ah high Hand. To flop a flush IS around 0.8% and I would for sure Test that outt. Regarding to your explanation that would be wrong and you know that much better than I would. Maybe you could explain why my thinking fais. THY so much. Btw: I highly recommend your Personal Training Lessons. Still working on the content/Homework of one single lesson. So much value!