Porsche Accident in Pune

This Sunday Club, Suhel and Pallavi sit down with me to decode the greater expose brought about by the Pune Porsche Crash, and what it signals about Indian lawmakers and law enforcers.
Our Guests!
Suhel Seth - Author, Strategic Brand Consultant, & Actor - / suhelseth
Pallavi Ghosh - Senior Editor @ CNN News18 - / _pallavighosh
Please note that all opinions are personal, and the opinions of an individual speaker are theirs and theirs only. This is a space for constructive discussion, and each individual puts forth their personal argument.

[@uniani01]

Judicial Reform is Must

[@personaldata1270]

It shud definitely start taking place in the next 2 years ..

[@lalitaurora1750]

You guys have no guts to call out a famous film star whose car killed people sleeping on the footpath in Mumbai

[@chiragsharma4523]

you yourself don't

[@AS_7419]

Salmon khooni if I'm not wrong 🙄

[@rajanipandit2612]

Absolutely

[@vaijeet]

Absolutely, that bhadawa salman khan the murderer still roaming free

[@YG-ci9pg]

I live in the same area...there are guys who drive around the area late night at high speeds ...revving their cars and bikes and have been disturbing the peace

[@jayantimukherjree8568]

I live in the same area and yes totally true!

[@vikramsamant4001]

There is virtually no police in Pune.. If you do see a cop, he would be standing in the shade watching videos on his cellv

[@devansh3385]

Not just pune, its the same situation across India

[@atul58]

Police are not interested in infusing discipline amongst vehicle drivers except no parking offences.

[@aryangupta6714]

22:38 Australia has a very good system. a) The learner course is a proper module and the exam is like a proper exam. If you dont study the module you wont pass. b) After clearing the driver test also, you are on probation. There is a green plate P and a red plate P and these plates have multiple restrictions. c) Full licence is given after 2-3 years of driving d) Even after getting a license there are demerit points. I thinks its 12 and with every infringement there is a hefty fine + minimum 3 demerit points. We need something strict like this in India to curb the hapazard driving.

[@parimal_s]

At 4:35, Pallavi Ghosh is not wearing the seat belt; it is set from behind her back to stop the beeping… 😂😂😂 Irony?

[@hkiajtaqks5253]

god forbid indians have to follow rules. It is considered smart to break rules.

[@vaijeet]

As Suhel pointed out she was drinking when she was minor... Irony these guys are talking on law and order...

[@justsaying6757]

Plus she has inside lights on while driving..blinding other transporters on road risking accidents

[@keyurraval2708]

Also, Suhel Seth misstated that Aryan Khan was NOT even aboard the cruise at 33:39 . This is very sad to see how he has also fallen to antics of the SRK media power. Whether Aryan Khan was rightly accused or not, he was on the ship and denying that is just pure BS

[@xendit1635]

Elite save other elites

[@greentwinkle]

Exactly he is calling Wankhede a rouge cop.. like WTH

[@makarandadke7973]

State Excise is the biggest Source of INCOME for Govt and Officials... Judicial and Police reforms is very important.

[@vn_1]

First step should be the disclosure of assets of judiciary and then police and then politicians.

[@vishnuprasad7574]

Why didn't nehru marry Mountbatten 😂😂😂 -- Suhel

[@ninaballerina8136]

Around 15 years ago, Capital's most Elite School, was caught in a negligence case. A 12th Std. Student died of an asthmatic attack at 9am and school refused its car to carry her 2 minutes away to a Hospital. Public frenzy and Media glare was massive. Soon the girl's parents fell silent. Later, there were spied, owning a spanking new shop, in an upmarket mall. Principal got away scotfree and is on the Board of a University now. She was besties with the CM, back then. Other parents who had protested and got harassed, yet supported the victim....were left flummoxed 😂 It is wise, to mind your own biz.

[@SiddM]

Which school in Delhi ? Can u tell or refer some more detail.

[@rameshmisra4764]

Really mr. Seth u have nothing to say for the judiciary who found that writing an essay was sufficient remedy for the incident.

[@vijaydave6278]

When SUPREME KOTHA can bail Khujliwal, JUVENILE KOTHA can get inspired and free the wealthy builder kid.

[@nitinnimkar1654]

Suhel is completely wrong. See Fadanvis presser. Police did out 304 but.the Judge just ignored it. Police approached HC. HC told police to go back to juvenile court. Once you have finished that, come to us.

[@geezextra234]

RTO is a joke in India...my lady friend took test for 4 wheeler and got license, her driving instructor asked her, "Madam, 2 wheeler ka license bhi kara lo". And the instructor himself took test on her behalf and RTO gave her license.

[@ShwetaYadav433]

😝😜🤨

[@Peddayana]

AK 's group discussion reminds me of the story of 4 blind men who are describing the elephant. None of them bother to know the facts. They walk into AK's disco and dance away to glory!

[@maniaphobia4719]

What happened to Salman khan case ; Suhel is absolutely correct in saying that Police can make OR weaken a case by appropriate wordings in FIR ; Judge goes only by law and evidences ; Wealthy people can have different set of Laws ;

[@sabothk60]

Yes, optics. Parents also

[@TheApoorva777]

Suhel sir was asking under which law father got arrested so it’s motor vehicles act 2019 where a guardian is deemed guilty of juvenile offences. It has 3 years prison sentence and fine I think.

[@Rakeshfac]

like this channel. Seth appreciate your out spoken ...

[@yshkhole]

I live in Pune and I’ve been going to that very area all my life, police do have their spots for checking but police are busy harassing couples and regular middle class people there I’ve never seen them stops expensive car it’s always the Maruti or a bike guy. The issue here is they’re making it all about “pub culture” in Pune instead of focusing on how the cops are letting certain places serve alcohol to minors and run till early morning.

[@main_stream_media_is_a_joke]

Viman nagar is 1 of the epicenters of rich dad, entitled kid, alcohol binges, cops money making racket. My sister stays in a rented apartment near viman nagar and the desperate need to show off among the "college kids" with their liberal western consumer culture lifestyle has to be seen to be believed. Not to be outdone by them....we now also have sons of former farmers who have become ultra rich by selling off their farm lands to builders and outdoing the college kids with their ott money filled lifestyle. Extreme speeding is literally the norm on the Aundh Baner Vishal Nagar, Hinjewadi roads.

[@shankarpoti1985]

As always, Suhel Seth straight talking and hitting the nail where it hurts most. What is the use of the Commissioner being supposedly honest. As Suhel said, being honest is a given. We need honest and effective officers.

[@surajdip3621]

Shows everything in India, thrives through the processes of corruption.

[@avis222]

Drunk drive is bailable and you can get away with 2000 rs

[@shivannakr2194]

My goodness!!😳

[@BP-sf7br]

After decades when finally case somehow reaches conclusion, it will be proved beyond doubt that it was a driverless car... People's memory is very short

[@gopaljisingh8635]

I agree with Suhel's suggested solutions. Hope our politicians are listening.

[@vickeykooper2674]

By far most productive podcasts of Sunday club, second to Ibrahim Raisi's death podcast, for this year till now❤❤

[@keyurraval2708]

While I agree with Suhel Seth's points, he needs to be muted at times and let others speak. He was very disruptive, even ranting at times and disrespectful. The situation in Pune is outrageous but there's a reason this is the Advaita Kala show and NOT Arnab Goswamy's Republic channel.

[@soniabihani5846]

Coming from pune when the new pune commissioner came ,I was hopefully that traffic and law and order as the 2 topics promised by him will be delivered... But after this am truly disheartened

[@vrindagoel1811]

Advaita please keep track on this issue. Will be looking forward to the panels comments and updates.

[@obgprasa]

Why is Pallavi always travelling in a car?

[@rds6277]

While expressing outrage on this case let's not forget that only few days ago 14 people died in an equally brazen case of illegal bill board falling on their heads. I can reach to only one conclusion " we are a banana republic"

[@akj3388]

Police involved in providing him food should be suspended permanently. It clearly reduces the alcohol reading.

[@jagtaphimanshu09]

Agree that accidents happen everywhere, but the instances per capita are very less. There is at least a strict enforcement of law and cops most of the time behave the same regardless of who has done the crime. Tragedy is we are still a banana republic where common tax paying citizen has no avenue to run to seek help. This won't be discussed in parliament, bcoz no one cares about these incidents, they are busy crying "Death of Democray". Why would a common tax payer care about "Democracy" when no institution helps them. Has police, judiciary, executive, etc anytime helped a common citizen? This is result people get even after paying taxes and expecting just a bare minimum service.

[@MrArborde]

Movie gangajal is based on Amitesh Kumar current CP Pune

[@inezdsouza203]

The person to be blamed is the father!!!

[@Randomest_Stories]

It is scary to see, inspite of evidence of this accident, now available to entire nation, the police, in full public view is shielding the culprits! And the police doesn't even care. They are not afraid of the law or the nation! 😞.

[@akj3388]

All the suburban roads should have a speed limit of 45.

[@ImagineTruth]

Criminal Family Syndicate = Agarwal’s Grandfather - Mastermind Criminal Father - Bigtime Hoodlum Son - Street Killer

[@redguitarwarrior2179]

J for Justice and J for Joke

[@VeeraRaghavan]

Mr Seth himself had a Ferrari in his garage ,few years ago. Don't tell me he drove at 40 km/ hr.

[@navienmarwah4150]

But Kaka is a part of INDI Alliance.

[@buntysingh3166]

make it mandatory for all luxury cars buyers to have 1) Breathalyzer lock and 2) Speed governor in the car if person

[@pillalam]

Pehle license tho correctly Le Le

[@ashwanivaid3298]

I missed suhel ji ystdy during swati maliwal talks

[@nikjs]

i dont want to let the irresponsible driver off the hook with this, but this is a question that i think folks in other metro cities must ask to the people of Pune now : Why didn't they have any helmets on? Pune has famously or infamously consistently refused to adhere to any helmet wearing rules. could there have been a chance of at least a life being saved had they been wearing a helmet? you can go on and on about systems and larger collective norms, but at the end the helmet is the most primary self defense a two wheeler rider can have against a rampaging vehicle. And Pune has embraced a culture of refusing it.

[@ameyakolhe4838]

Suhel is damn right. The residents of Koregaon Park and Kalyani Nagar are crying hoarse about bikes and cars speeding in the narrow lanes and the mushrooming of pubs that run well past the permitted time. Complaints to cops have fallen over deaf ears and precious lives lost. They'll just show they're doing something for a few days and it'll be back to business.

[@kishorerajurkar2271]

Suhel how can you blame Police Commissioner for this horrible brat who was driving. Suhel if any worker of his took a bribe Suhel should be blamed?. It is the system which allows these crimes. At the same time we must praise Devendra Fadnavis for trying to do justice

[@blueheaven4838]

The commissioner has to be blamed for the conduct of his officials. Are you reading the news. The cops falsified evidence and tried to subvert justice

[@monicachopra4998]

Suhel is right on the number of alcohol shops in Gurgaon - they sprout like mushrooms in the rain! And the roads are in a deplorable state - traffic rules are blatantly flouted with impunity! When the cops are about - you can take it that there is VIP movement! Nobody cares about maintaining order on the road for law-abiding tax-paying citizens!! No matter which government is in power - day-to-day law and order is nobody's concern!

[@Diliplal]

Parents can be fined up to 25k and imprisonment up to 3 years. And they can be arrested for not cooperating with police and other agencies.

[@desi20273]

Media pounced on this issue becoz of elections. Distract from the NCR phase of elections.

[@navazmody8671]

@ Soheil: Under the amended section 199A of the motor vehicle act, 2019, the owner of the car can be imprisoned and fined if his car is driven by a Minor.

[@Diliplal]

Three year imprisonment, not three months

[@spawaskar723]

You have the audacity to call a cold blood murder as an sccident.

[@Sunnypad]

Suhel says, Hamamm me sab nange hai. I'm confused. All on this podcast have clothes on! 😮

[@personaldata1270]

14:00 judiciary completely honest kaise ho gayi suhel ji. Jab saza me ek essay aur 15 din ka kuch community servive hai? Report me ye toh likha hi hoga ke two people died during this act.

[@it_is_Chetan]

If you asking or wishing for Judicial reform, police reform then you are from different world.

[@sachisin1924]

Can the solution to all this be that the police should be under the center and not under the state government and there should be some such mechanism to tackle the misuse of power? Like, the conduct of Police in different situations should come from a rule book and not from the whims of their seniors/bureaucrats/any political leader/any affluential person, or public/societal pressure.

[@yasho.]

I cant watch any show where suhel shows up.

[@m.r.r8408]

Sibelius Seth is an arrogant sob, bringing up irrelevant “ drinking by Pallawi “! I don’t blame her leaving! Sir, watch what you say!

[@anubhav6994]

jaisi praja waisa raja.... aur waisa hi raj...

[@bharatpatel9739]

This lawlessness prevails across the country.

[@nielniel3384]

Those blaming the system should ask themselves how much rules they have followed and not used money to get things done . Have you stopped at the signal ? Followed speed limit ? Not cut across a pedestrian ? Not taken a bribe ? Taught your children civic duties ?

[@VR-nx5jg]

Advita if this podcast is as honest as it sounds then like suheal said redo this topic and update it in a couple of months so all can see how these corrupt systems work and what justice is delivered and who was the scapegoat who went to jail

[@Diliplal]

RAGA is just politicising- Narendra Modi’s name should not have been mentioned by him.

[@RavindraKamath55]

Have you forgotten the case of Grand Son of Admiral Nanda... famous BMW rampage that killed a family.

[@trktrk007]

Agarwal, Ahir, Reddy, Rao, Singh, Patel, Rajput, Sharma, Naidu n some else escape from the system as they are highly influential politically and economically

[@Diliplal]

The parents can be fined up to 25k and in extreme cases can be sentenced up to 3 months

[@main_stream_media_is_a_joke]

Seems like this 17 yo is a fan of sallu bhai. Definitely took "inspiration" from Sallu Bhai.

[@ramachandrannair8461]

Sohail seth said aryan khan was arrested by Sachin Vaze. Is it true? I think aryan was arrested by Wankhede.

[@gautamr5976]

Ye har baar aam aadmi ko aawaz uthani padegi kya justice paane k liye … police aur court apna kaam kyon nhi krti..

[@MrNirmalkumar4]

If this guy gets away because he is a minor, then the parents must be put in jail for failing to protect that car to be driven, and be made responsible for the death of the victims. So either the boy or their parents must go to the jail for murder.

[@pradeeptachhotray1137]

Why not the family adopt /look after the deceased dependants as like in movie " Dushman ", let the court put the welfare measures on shoulder of the culprits

[@upadhyayrathiraj1518]

Same like Suhel, I too wonder why don't those stunt-riders meet with accident and get a lesson.

[@lovkeshbajaj674]

Two people died. Drunk or not it doesn't matter. This guy was underage. The father should be arrested and the boy should also be tried as an adult and punished.

[@bshaamala]

Why such a young girl is working in a pub, serving alcohol? How did they allow a 'juvenile' inside a pub? He is not a juvenile for drinking or driving irresponsibly but he is a juvenile to be tried for murder?

[@Archak77]

The sick Juvinile laws must be changed....If a 10+ yrs Old capable of going out and consuming Alcohol and later involved in any crime ...He/She should be treated as an Adult.

[@sagarbrit]

It's not about privilege it is about general lethargy of civic sense and lack of civic discipline. And irrespective of the government in power a vast majority of people from the subcontinent lack discipline and glorify mediocrity like "jugaad".

[@tonyraheja1]

Tragic

[@suktaralahiri2550]

Don't blame the police, the judiciary needs reform

[@Diliplal]

Failure to cooperate with police authorities can lead to imprisonment

[@JAKELEVANFIECHTER]

12:04 ☠️🤣🤣 edit 29:55 ☠️🤣🤣🤣

[@insaafforssr6357]

similarly i scratch ur back u scratch my back system is used by uddhav thakre devendra fadnavis eknaath sinde in saving each other in SSR Case ..

[@nagindersahota7276]

It’s time speeding cameras were installed and sever fines and penalties inflected on these people. Not only would it be a great source of revenue but it would also encourage more responsible driving. Bad driver’s could incur points on their license which would eventually lead to a disqualification for driving. As for under age driver’s the parent’s should also face conviction in a court of law.

[@cr9842]

Have pallavi and advaita switched spectacles?😂

[@it_is_Chetan]

Parents are responsible for children's act

[@mohanrao6]

Why not decrease the age to 14 like in Europe.

[@desi20273]

Pune has an ISIS module. Full system is compromised.

[@Moon-gz3wy]

If you have money to hire a good lawyer you can getaway from many things

[@ashwanivaid3298]

In another channel DGP vikram singh said that parents can be held under NSA, for public disorder

[@49dm222]

What, NSA 😂

[@ashwanivaid3298]

National security act of india

[@sas2061]

Sohail shd let others speak.....mostly he kept talking in loops

[@Kapsmita]

Law says if minor drives the car then parents are responsible for allowing or giving the car in their hands .

[@pradeepshetty9269]

As parents they are trying everything in their power to get their child saved and if they are wealthy, they will use all options available to them. Anyone would do that for their child. I have an issue with the lawyers who are guiding these parents and giving all the bad advise. The parents are doing all this on someone's advise, that being their lawyers. These very lawyers are spoiling the image of the judiciary system by constantly manipulating it. If the lawyers had advised the parents right, they would have gone with what is the right thing to do. In a situation like this which parent is thinking in their right mind beyond wanting to get their child out of prison.

[@usha8283]

Clearly can see how Suheil Seth is baised. Giving clean chit to Aryan Khan. Maybe Shahrukh khan is his friend. How is he even questioning Sameer Wankhede who was doing his job

[@kkna1002]

When Modiji values even a single soul outside India, who have been brought back to India for various reasons, how on earth, when someone dies for no reason can be allowed to roam scot free...I am sure Modi ji shall pass the Judicial reform laws which would punish every such case...

[@Archak77]

HOw can there be no Speed limit check ...?? there has to be strict speed check....how can one drive 150/kmph where in the city crowded area it should be 20-30 kmph

[@ashkanet8]

Suhel please stop talking and let Pallavi speak

[@bshaamala]

If he is a juvenile, he should not be driving that car without adult supervision, on that road, at that time and at that speed, and that too in an inebriated state. Both the parents should be punished with a minimum of five years imprisonment and this guy should be put imprisoned with hard labor. Cops and the juvenile board who themselves are acting like juveniles also need to be punished for letting him go scot- free. Either you are an adult and have authorization (not a privilege), that come with responsibilities.

[@sanatandharm-bw3wc]

Aryan khan was on boat as per cctv

[@deepjha836]

आप जानती है आपने तो कल ही प्रोग्राम किया है आज का सच ये है की मीडिया इसको अब छोटा सकील से जोड़ रहा है की बाबा का संबंध उससे था लड़का 17 साल का है उसका ....... Bla bla bla but liike Seth ji said about responsibility term that's still Missing from whole subject. No more further on this because till responsibility is not taking place rest everything would be KHANAPOORI

[@s036525]

Didn’t Ambani Son ?