The Sandy river is my front yard. I've never been so happy as the day I was notified about the dams removal. Watching such a rapid recovery after the removal was nothing short of amazing. Today it's as it was centuries ago, and some days it almost seems to be smiling.
@Frankenstein-sc8rc4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know how I found myself in the depths of the damn deconstruction KZbin community, but the hippie in me has come quite astonished .
@josephikrakowski754 жыл бұрын
yo bro me too
@greatganski81184 жыл бұрын
Me too I started watching 3 videos ago cuz I saw jerry on the eel
@scottyo644 жыл бұрын
Not a hippie but definitely enjoying these types of documentaries
@jkotarsky3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Now those 16,000 homes can use fossil fuels.
@stevenchavers45962 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! Same here! I saw one video about 4 videos ago and now I’m hooked. I didn’t know this was a thing. Nor did I ever think about the negative impacts that dams have on our fish populations.
@dunruden97205 жыл бұрын
In any given group of people gathered together specifically to observe something, there will be at least one who feels the need to shout, "LOOK AT THAT!!"
@davidquirk80975 жыл бұрын
Great work guys. A job well done and something to be justifiably proud of. Like the man said at the end we borrowed the river's energy for a hundred years now it's time to give it back. I'd love to be around in a hundred years to see how the Chinese replicate this work at Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River. Doubtless this project and others like it will be cited in the KZbin videos of the future. Important work, diligently done.
@patrickzink21915 жыл бұрын
Ok but where u gonna get power for an all electric world which we are moving more towards. I guess it's back to coal which is more deadly than a dam would be
@Studio23Media4 жыл бұрын
patrick Zink There are renewable sources that don't harm the environment nearly this much.
@mudchair164 жыл бұрын
@@patrickzink2191 The goal is to reduce the size of the middle and working classes. Therefore, the powers that be won't allow coal to take the place of these hydro plants. They're moving to green energy _(sustainable development),_ which will lead to higher costs of goods/services, fewer jobs etc.
@RTmadnesstoo4 жыл бұрын
@@Studio23Media Does your 'environment' include birds and bats?
@Studio23Media4 жыл бұрын
Not You Yes. And despite what conspiracy theories you believe, windmills are not bird killing machines. Stop believing nonsense
@gardenia24sugarfoot.363 жыл бұрын
A wonderfully magical sight to see this river being able to breathe again in 90 to 100 years. Goodbye to concrete.
@dundonrl Жыл бұрын
Our society is built on concrete, unless you want to go back to a hunter gatherer society we NEED concrete!
@TXH11383 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to run all that sediment through a gold sluice.
@repentuklondonwatchman13733 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@gildedwolf43904 жыл бұрын
Love how you can see the signal transmit through the wire to the explosvies
@brentmcgillis4 жыл бұрын
Primacord is not wire. It is an explosive in it's own rite. You can take primacord and tie into a ball of knots and you have now just built your own home made bomb. Now ignite it, and see what happens. There are different types with their own ignition mechanisms.
@qwerty112311 Жыл бұрын
Libs be like “omg we need renewables” Libs be like “omg no dams, we can’t have some salmon affected” The cognitive dissonance is beyond comprehension
@gregbolitho97754 жыл бұрын
damn, that was a nice job!
@johnisbell5744 жыл бұрын
A hundred years ago we built these dams and they produced electricity, replacing a part of the fishing industry. Now with the demolishing of these dams we are replacing the electricity industry for the fishing industry. That of course means more fish will be able to feed more people. That part is good,but we also must find more ways to produce cheap electricity.
@zabaleta664 жыл бұрын
Nuclear......and coal.
@jwarmstrong4 жыл бұрын
The fish are protected so eat one & go to jail - look at one w/ mean eye & get a fine..
@calebm.56984 жыл бұрын
@@zabaleta66 fuck coal, it’s the single worst thing that’s ever happened to our atmosphere. we will be underwater in 100 years if we keep using coal.
@dundonrl Жыл бұрын
Cheap electricity? Not going to happen. It will be the overlords living like kings and the rest of us will be their slaves.
@DavidHuber63 Жыл бұрын
A priceless opportunity for all profiteers to replace the dirt and pay society back, you will be first 👍🏼
@Zombieboy3174 жыл бұрын
honestly gave me chills
@michaelward86075 жыл бұрын
Good on you guys and girls who were part of the dam demolishment. It's great how man can restore a massive structure back to origanal states's. There was a dam here. What ???who said that ???? No dam here now . Very good work . I love how the prep work of years before, successfully works now .
@TomBTerrific8 ай бұрын
One thing for certain is the sediment went somewhere and had its affect there (good or bad) .
@johnorenick90264 күн бұрын
Megatonnes of sediment builds up behind dams in few decades. Remove the dam and most of that will wash downstream, despite efforts to stabilize it with plants. It will smother spawning beds and do other damage, and while the river will-probably, eventually, mostly-clean itself, it only takes one year’s total failure to destroy a spawning run. Suggestion? Build one suction dredge that can be taken apart, transported by truck, and reassembled behind a dam scheduled for removal; we should be able to schedule dam removals so that one or two machines will do for all. Dredge most of the sediment out from behind the dam, and it will not be there to wash downstream. I don’t know where/how we dispose of all that, if it’s contaminated with agricultural and other chemicals-but then we don’t want to let that contaminate the downstream river bottom anyway. Where it is clean enough, it’s silt, very rich soil, and it could be sold to farmers or as a component of potting soil. There are no wastes, only un-utilized resources.
@mariedichiara37294 жыл бұрын
thank u for thinkin for our grandchildren
@kathybauer92626 ай бұрын
The power companies concluded that the hydroelectric power made was not the most cost effective. Salmon ladders were also too expensive to install. The only opponents were recreational users of the reservoirs and lake side property owners.
@oregonpatriot15705 ай бұрын
"Lakeside" LOL You make it sound like there was summer houses, docks and ski boats. There was no lake. It was still a river with tons and tons of sediment buildup behind the dam. It was so thick you could literally walk across the face of the dam without going over your knees. No widening and depth increase behind the dam. Just a new man made concrete channel that diverted water for power use at Bull Run.
@carlb.40974 жыл бұрын
Ty global water management is so required in loving application s🌍❤️
@hotttt287 ай бұрын
What a pr plug for Pge !
@toniesedrick6914 жыл бұрын
No no more damn only bless. Very nice..
@scurvyswine4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else want to play with the scale model?
@stevecarter88104 жыл бұрын
I was reading that like you were offering, like you had it set up in your shed or something
@randychaparral21247 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!
@claudreindl72755 жыл бұрын
A crisis but everyone is so calm (yawn)!
@nordwest234 жыл бұрын
ALLI CAN SAY IS WOW
@nunyabiznis35957 жыл бұрын
2:50 neegan
@joemc1114 жыл бұрын
Those DAMS on the Colorado should be next,
@davesmith56565 жыл бұрын
The men there seem well aware of the gravity of the project .... (Hahahaha - get it?)
@KrisH-kp9vx4 жыл бұрын
Oregon needs to get rid of all their dams. Mother Nature had a plan and she will see her plan through reguardless of human activity.
@thomaserixton46624 жыл бұрын
I understand this was done to save the species of fish that needed to migrate but I wish there would've been a way to save the damn and the fish that was cost effective. There was a lot of history that was in the damn and a lot of thought put in to making that system work that'll never be built that way again
@irgski5 жыл бұрын
Hetch Hetchy should be next.
@slowstang883 жыл бұрын
Who else continued watching to see the dam fail?
@philippesails4973 Жыл бұрын
??? Reducing hydropower generation? 🙈 The very same people who want to have nature (and salmons) protected (as I do) surely also want the climate warming stopped. Hydropower generation is the most ecological way to produce power! Weird to dismantle such plants…unless this is greenwashing! 🤷♂️
@JamesRobertSmith5 жыл бұрын
Sweet.
@C.Hawkshaw4 ай бұрын
Damn l was hoping to see some Led Zeppelin kick in here!
@wannabetowasabe5 жыл бұрын
Fish ladders don't really work. About 3% of the fish attempting to migrate upstream actually make it. Dams are about half the problem for the salmon in the Pacific Northwest, nearly equal to the adverse effects of those dams are logging roads in the river's watersheds. Sediments from the roads settle into the spaces in the gravel of the stream beds, leaving no where for fertilized eggs to be deposited at the time of spawning. When research found this correlation nearly everyone in natural resource management fields and science were pretty shocked. We all knew it was a significant factor, but didn't know it was as significant as it turned out to be.
@gregwarner37534 жыл бұрын
Make your choice: reliable electric power or sport fishery. One is for working and living the other emotional indulgance. I think the electricity is far more inportant than fish. We need electricity far more than these fish. Taking out the dan is a damn bad idea.
@skunkhome4 жыл бұрын
Point is, the fish survived the dam for 100 years. It’s just the dam couldn’t survive the EPAs newest regulations concerning fish ladders.
@MonthlyCramps4 жыл бұрын
@@skunkhome The only way to justify removing a single power generating Dam is money. Politics and EPA has a small influence compared to upgrades, maintenance, wages, and distribution costs.
@glennwall5523 жыл бұрын
Old mates wrong Pacific Islanders can sail for thousands of miles.useing their testicals to steer by.with out instruments they can return to rivers years later. One of those things.one discovers watching docos lol
@loranroberds3084 жыл бұрын
easy to fi the problem for fish but im sure there is no way they will let u dredge and keep a dam
@jonshaffer57934 жыл бұрын
why not just let the military do some practice with some bunker buster type munitions?
@davidquirk80975 жыл бұрын
23:13 Awesome!
@louisevad60917 ай бұрын
The sentiment will end up in the Columbia
@oregonpatriot15705 ай бұрын
You're right. And just like the Sandy river, the Columbia washed it away.
@pj21234 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone say 36billion pounds of sand and gravel ??? why not use tons . Sensationalism I guess.
@walterkersting13624 жыл бұрын
You can’t manage the silt because it’ll harm the fish; destroy the dam. Then they look straight down at you and say “science”.
@gregorymalchuk2724 жыл бұрын
I know. What a joke. The fish survived the dam for 100 years just fine. But the dam couldn't survive the EPA.
@tonyclack59014 жыл бұрын
As sediment deposits are usally full of nutrients especially when it feeds a delta, would there not be some profit in taking it away and spreading it on impoverished lands.
@Bustahbrown4 жыл бұрын
Salmon need clean, silt free water and a gravel base to lay their eggs. IF they did as you suggested, they would be stirring up sediment continuously for a long period of time and that would interfere with the return of the spawning salmon. This is why they had to try to do this method that had never been done before.
@tonyclack59014 жыл бұрын
@@Bustahbrown I cannot see how my sugestion has no validity in terms of removing valuable sediment. They are waiting for the storm to arrive to remove sediment. So with sediment removed by machines, what would the problem be in allowing the storm to remove the remaining sediment left behind. The one thing that it does not cover is the effect upon other invertibrates further down stream that are going to have all this sediment laying down on their river base.
@stevecarter88104 жыл бұрын
Another case of: they literally talked about this in the video
@joshuatoro89775 жыл бұрын
I would love to see them do the same in California and help restore the Salton Sea with water again now that will be the biggest restoration project I think I’d like to see in my life
@dundonrl Жыл бұрын
The Salton sea was formed when the Colorado river breached a dyke and allowed water to flow uncontrolled for two years into that basin. Trying to keep it going is what's un-natural!
@toniesedrick6914 жыл бұрын
From the Nature of God my friend. Keep it real.
@adambrown8654 жыл бұрын
“God” and “keep it real” in the same sentence.....classic.
@petermoto4094 жыл бұрын
@19:20, it's Butthead in a hardhat!
@watomb4 жыл бұрын
How terrible they should have built a bigger dam
@jwarmstrong4 жыл бұрын
The Orville Dam is huge but it almost wiped out the city & the fish have to hand raise now - Because no repair work was done to the spillway plus the generators were down for repair. Engineers wouldn't walk the spillway they only inspected from their trucks - then Oops rain & the spillway was cracked & the overflow was never tested - only $1.4 billion to fix.
@watomb4 жыл бұрын
J Arms not really
@paulbetka18035 жыл бұрын
Couldn't it be vacuumed it up ❓
@spencerwilton58315 жыл бұрын
36 billion pounds weight of sediment? A million cubic yards- any idea how long that would take, how many trucks would be required, and how much that would cost?
@englishruraldoggynerd4 жыл бұрын
My Dyson jams up cleaning up dog and cat hair. Not sure what would happen with concrete and rebar!
@alexclaar4753 жыл бұрын
Narrator keeps saying gallons per minute.. that's definitely seconds bud.. gallons per second!!!
@paulthesoundguy16 жыл бұрын
This dam wasn’t producing electric This dam was completely full of sediment and wasn’t holding back any water This dam was keeping the natural flow of the river from happening
@deephorizon13655 жыл бұрын
What do you mean they were generating electricity with it
@Garwulf745 жыл бұрын
Ya. Not much power however from such and old system. Give it back to the FISH!!
@BenCos20185 жыл бұрын
The dam was still producing electric when it was demolished
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
@@BenCos2018 very little. It was replaced almost immediately. Bonehead.
@BenCos20184 жыл бұрын
@@FYMASMD fair enough thanks for the correction though there is no need to call people names :-)
@danielmorse65975 жыл бұрын
When the west needs water, we WILL NOT sell it to you from the great lakes. Just saying. Manage your water better. Good luck.
@enkrypt3d5 жыл бұрын
i think they have plenty wtf are you talking about? This is oregon one of the wettest states in the USA.
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
@reverse thrust and west of the cascades isn't. And you're point is what?
@peace4peaceful4 жыл бұрын
Love to see some..all really but wont happen...dams removed from Qld Australia. Theres not a river of any significance that is not choked by dams. A lot of native fish cannot breed. Some need brakish water..some need flowing rivers on gravel beds. If you know how much food silt takes to ocean species it's difficult to see how dams are allowed. The temp of water and atmosphere at dams is a lot higher than flowing rivers. Im no greenie, but belive that rivers are natures way of cooling oceans, which in turn control rain and other weather conditions. Humans are set on self destruction it seems. There's plenty of ways of making money by clearing rivers and waste.
@djcoopes75694 жыл бұрын
That's because Australia doesn't have many rivers suitable for hydroelectric generation, so we must make do with what we have.
@peace4peaceful4 жыл бұрын
@@djcoopes7569 Hi..have you seen what China does? To get water from a river to the desert, they place pipes vertically under a river bed high up a mountain. They then use horizontal pipe and gravity to send that water where they need it. Just an example of what we can do..or could. We need some inspiration like that to get rivers flowing..ie the Murray Darling river system. Which has been buggered by farming. At some stage we need to change our mindset, we cant keep taking and not putting back. Hopefully aquaponics will catch on here like it is in asia. Reducing the use of water. Cheers 😊
@djcoopes75694 жыл бұрын
@@peace4peaceful Wow, I hadn't though of that. It a very good point, the only problem that i see is that it would be labour and equipment intensive to make the pipeline, thus making it cheaper to build a conventional hydroelectric dam
@nobodycares902 Жыл бұрын
Replacement electrical power needs to be online before dams are taken out so power grid is not downgraded by the removal. Or take liberals off the power grid.
@jonnywatts2970 Жыл бұрын
Just breach that sucker! Let it go. Gotta love scientists trying to legitimize their pay level. Lol
@braddblk5 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that as a child we used to play in a rain gully next to a covered play area and in the rain build dams and make them fail like the scale model they built. When they cut the notch it looked exactly like our play.
@Hunpecked4 жыл бұрын
60 years ago my cousins, brother, and I would use a firecracker to blast a hole in our "dam". Strangely, none of us went into civil engineering, though my brother did become a geologist.
@mdsafaeth15473 жыл бұрын
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@lag9765 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for having the wisdom and courage and doing the right thing for all the living creatures of this earth... This very morning I will be attending a meeting in an effort to remove the Gold River Dam in Placer County, California. Hopefully, Nevada Irrigation District will come to their sensed and remove the Gold Hill Dam that was built by the pioneers over a 150 years ago...
@futurecaredesign4 жыл бұрын
22:25 "Its like the river doesn't even... remember there was a dam here!" Sneaking a little animism in there. I love it.
@Kwaq844 жыл бұрын
This river just don't give a dam.
@Flightstar5 жыл бұрын
Now the river should be diverted into a nuclear power plant cooling system to replace the power lost from the dam removal
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
Moron.
@ruger84126 ай бұрын
Cry elsewhere. Stop breeding Thanks 😉😎
@emead5282 ай бұрын
Obviously, you have no idea what’s happening here
@Flightstar2 ай бұрын
I was being facetious dunderheads. The destruction of hydro power dams is indicative of a lack or critical and productive thinking. Hydro power production is the best "greenest" way to produce electrons. The infrastructure is long lasting. durable and reliable simple technology that can pay dividends for 100 plus years. In this world of concern for green house gas emissions, It is one with the smallest carbon foot print. There is always away round a problem. That dam could have been modified to remove the silt accumulations and a system to allow fish access into the water shed area. Construction and bureaucratic cost have become out of control. To build a facility like that today would be prohibitively expensive. "run of the river" projects take huge capitol investments and require decades of time to pay off. Our governments open door policies that promote massive immigration will only create ever growing demand for electricity. So It was a joke that went over you heads. Nuclear power is seriously being looked at again to replace and produce power that will feed our ever insatiable need to grow like weeds that will eventually destroy this world.
@taevue7 жыл бұрын
I miss these kind of documentaries.
@toniesedrick6914 жыл бұрын
Me too. There back.
@ShainAndrews4 жыл бұрын
This is marketing, not a documentary. Look at what a great company we are!!! Had there not been an endangered species in the river they would have never taken any action.
@bleachinuri4 жыл бұрын
@@ShainAndrews and why should they if there wasn't an andangered species 🤔, everyone is a critic, maybe go without electricity for a couple of weeks
@ShainAndrews4 жыл бұрын
@@bleachinuri Because doing the right thing when nobody is looking is the proper measure of character. Me no electricity... not an issue. I spend weeks in the wilderness on horseback. Your criticism is noted.
@bleachinuri4 жыл бұрын
@@ShainAndrews good for you, I don't trust people that are to kind or to goody 2 shoes, that's not human nature and if your too good your hiding something 😉 😜.
@casienwhey4 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary and excellent work in dam removal.
@BryanTorok5 жыл бұрын
I'm editing this post because I conflated, unfairly, Portland General Electric (PGE) with Pacific Gas & Electric. Thanks to bearinmind (below) for point this out. I stand corrected.
@bearinmind505 жыл бұрын
That was Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) not Portland General Electric (PGE). No relation to Erin Brockavich.
@bearinmind505 жыл бұрын
The small amount of electricity from that dam is easily replaced by wind power from the Columbia River Gorge area and from areas east of the Cascade Range where the wind blows strongly fairly consistently.
@BryanTorok5 жыл бұрын
@@bearinmind50 I've edited my post to remove the incorrect info. Thank you for pointing that out and being civil while doing so. I stand corrected.
@azure67294 жыл бұрын
Not many people on the internet wanna admit they are wrong, especially so humbly. Keep the healthy spirit alive friend.
@BryanTorok3 жыл бұрын
@@azure6729 Thank you.
@jonsutherland1 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic well done....great to see this kind of work being done at last.
@remcovanvliet30186 жыл бұрын
If I lived around there, I'd be doing some gold panning downstream from where that dam used to sit.
@0649Hayes5 жыл бұрын
That causes problems. NO, we don't want you to. I LIVE HERE.
@erickg35085 жыл бұрын
it's a free country, you should try it.
@joelcrunk6515 жыл бұрын
@@0649Hayes Go Phuck yourself Socialist Antifa lover!
@jonbaker37285 жыл бұрын
@@joelcrunk651 well that escalated quickly
@bavondale5 жыл бұрын
panning is relatively harmless to the environment, but it should be regulated. If you are successful, thousands will come searching for their fortune. The cost to the environment could be great if not peoperly regulated
@PacoOtis2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Bravo! Thanks for this professional video and great thanks for NOT having background music.
@countrycraftsman51105 жыл бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous. You said it supplies power for 16,000 homes. And your tearing it down. Where will the power come from to replace it. Coal, nuke WHERE? hydro power is by far the best, cleanest, and most cost effective way to generate power. The salmon problem is not all due to dams. So many things effect it. Lets work on those problems instead of bowing to the ridiculos.
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
Updated generators on Bonneville, The Dales, and Grand Coullee dams and more wind turbines and solar replaced this puny dams output by more than 1,500 times. Look it up bozo.
@TrevorHammonds4 жыл бұрын
Such a waste. This is an irreversible action. This dam provided energy 24 hours a day, every day of the year, for 16,000 homes -- with zero emissions. We need to stop prioritizing fish over people.
@richardjohnson81974 жыл бұрын
Exactly, a common sense reply that unfortunately eludes so many.
@__z4ne__8234 жыл бұрын
Na man let the fish live
@AuRowe2 жыл бұрын
@@__z4ne__823 they had a fish ladder. As you type this on your device powered by electricity. The irony is ridiculous
@markissboi35836 жыл бұрын
Great doco guys - 💹➡ 2018 wonder how it all flows ? & Crikey them fish 🐟🐡 40lbs -+ 18Kilos au OZ - dams served a purpose electricity BUT once old its good to see the river system restored well done 🚣♂️ 🤽♂️ 👨👩👦👦
@breakcoregivesmewo0od6116 жыл бұрын
did you have a stroke whilst typing this?
@deephorizon13655 жыл бұрын
@@breakcoregivesmewo0od611 yeah
@steveneff73345 жыл бұрын
It is a bit confusing to me, that hydro power, one of the cleanest forms of energy, should be taken away by environmentalism.
@1978garfield4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the evviros who brought the lawsuits that closed this and other hydro electric dams think replaced the power that was lost? I suspect it wasn't wind or solar.
@casienwhey4 жыл бұрын
To save the salmon, a keystone species, you have to balance species survival against hydro power. They both cant win.
@goliathsteinbeisser35474 жыл бұрын
Hydro power does not produce much CO2, but a dam pretty much shuts down an entire ecosystem.
@Jemalacane02 жыл бұрын
It benefits humans and that's the problem environmentalists have. Environmentalism is dreadfully anti-human, anti-prosperity, and anti-industry.
@Ron-j3t Жыл бұрын
Mercury poisioning, its fatal and it dont get better😮
@walterkersting13624 жыл бұрын
Nothing is possible with people who hate God and country...
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
FUCK off. I don't hate god or country. Just ignorant fucks like you. Stay out of this area. You might have problems with you're attitude around here. Don't forget plenty of bleeding heart liberals own guns. Like me.
@evanpenny3483 жыл бұрын
Hello, missed this the first time. 70 million watts. Really? How about 70 billion microwatts? A watt is a really small unit of energy. What's wrong with 70 kilowatts? Quite liked the video, apart from this hyperbole.
@flailios7 жыл бұрын
Those hints of Sulfur he talked about was H2S, Hydrogen Sulphide. That's not a gas you want to trifle with, especially in a lower confined space.
@rkb67835 жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY... Got H2S POISONING IN 2010... WORKING FOR THE PARK CITY SEWER DISTRICT !
@TheMattc9995 жыл бұрын
LICKHER&STICKHER INTHEPINK I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE YELLING, BUT YOU'RE LUCKY YOU MADE IT OUT ALIVE.
skunkhome agree on it being “swamp gas”, but methane is odorless in nature. There probably was some sort of sulfur released seeing as Mt Hood lay upstream
@JamesF4065 жыл бұрын
That was really cool!
@carolsutton78285 жыл бұрын
This was done in 2014. What is the status of the area now in 2019?
@alex-marquette5 жыл бұрын
it was demolished back in 2007-2008. So the area is well over 10 years past when the dam was removed. With this removal they also got rid of Roslyn Lake that was created with this dam and the Little Sandy Dam as well. So it's on track to become what it used to look like before the dam.
@stacymirba14334 жыл бұрын
The dam still isn't there.
@Johnboy335454 жыл бұрын
@@stacymirba1433: Lol. True but the water is.
@barrym40794 жыл бұрын
the hydro it produced has been replaced by a coal plant.
@MrPanzerblitz4 жыл бұрын
@@barrym4079 No it hasn't. We have only one coal fired plant and it's many miles further up the gorge. I'm sure the power that was needed to replace this dam was MORE than handled by solar and wind generators that are already exceeding the needs of Pacific Power and Light. They are winding down the c.f. plant!
@hotttt287 ай бұрын
Aka ,the cheap way out just happens to be the right thing to do for the environment!
@douglascolman37524 жыл бұрын
And now the 1600 homes that used that hydro- electric power must now rely on solar (only works on sunny days) or wind power (only on windy days). What a bonus for the power supply companies. Brace yourselves for astronomic power bills.
@donaldbrown72524 жыл бұрын
yes bend over. same thing in illinois
@valiantsfelinesmccarty66784 жыл бұрын
Well and not only that the panels are only 18% efficient the best of them are we found that out when we went to go install solar on our house. Our situation is perfectly posed for constant sunlight all day long from the time the sun comes up this time the sun goes down we would have sunlight pretty much three-quarters of the year and even on snowy days we would get patches of sunlight so we'd only have to have a small battery Bank we don't use a lot of electricity but we'd have it set up for a washer and dryer refrigerator Luckily the heat, stove and hot water heater are gas. There is also a supplemental wood heavy duty warming Style with power blower fireplace insert which uses minimal wood 2 heat the ceramic plates. What we found out was that the use of solar panels would leave us dependent upon the electric company for good we would not make enough energy off the sun no matter if we were 24/7 on the sun because of their inefficiency. We thought about doing the little wind turbines but because we get really serious wind and the trees you can't guarantee that something won't bust them up flying pinecones limbs needles squirrels I went ahead and just said the stick with what we've got. Are fireplace produces practically no emissions as we have a scrubber on it we use very little heating as where our house is smaller we always keep rooms that we don't use closed we have excellent insulation, a special custom built window installations for winter that are removed and replaced with Summer wait I enjoyed making those but it's just crazy some of the stuff people expect us to do when really all it is is a fraud.
@jacquescousteau45924 жыл бұрын
@@valiantsfelinesmccarty6678 First of all, solar panels can reach a maximum efficiency of about 34% at the moment. Secondly, what a stupid argument. If you talk about this efficiency, it is the efficiency of the solar cells to convert sunlight directly into electricity, so it cannot even be compared to hydroelectricity or wind-energy. Both are (indirectly) ultimately powered by the sun, hydroelectricity through condensation and rain and wind energy through the movement of air which is also caused by the sun. If you would calculate how much sun energy is needed to provide you with enough water to get the same amount of energy it would be more than you need for solar panels. And finally, even the best plants only have a "solar energy to biomass conversion rate" of 2%, multiply that by 0.1 for every trophic level to find out that your beefburger has an energy efficiency of about 0.02%.
@valiantsfelinesmccarty66784 жыл бұрын
@alison webster maybe they don't let you get the better quality in my country we have investigated it and you know what if you want to believe the lies go ahead. I don't need to move to the city. I barely use any electricity as it is so it's not a big problem for me. What I don't like is the lies. But go ahead brainwashed
@1978garfield4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldbrown7252 Currently in IL we are subsidizing nuclear plants. They should build some natural gas powered ones to replace the power generated and shut them down.
@ML-fm1xs5 жыл бұрын
What will we do when we need more electric- fly kites with keys?
@spencerwilton58315 жыл бұрын
Michael Lyons there is a massive opportunity for solar and wind in the states. If the UK with its climate camps generate a quarter of its power from them already, there is no reason why the states couldn't get fifty percent within a decade with proper investment. Of course, being America, it will take decades- America is always at least a generation behind Europe.
@bmcb10306 ай бұрын
Solar power/wind
@johnallen27713 жыл бұрын
Wow, very heartening to see this video. I hope this is happening all over the world. A return to wild and scenic rivers. I live next to the Shasta Dam which is filled by the snows of an active volcano, Mt. Shasta in California, and flows into the Sacramento River on its way to the San Francisco delta area where it empties into the Pacific Ocean. I wonder what the people in Sacramento are going to do for power when they take that dam down. They already took down our local dam where I live in Red Bluff, downriver from Shasta about 30 miles. Slowly but surely the salmon are coming back and following right behind is a whole new flock of eagles and hawks, beautiful birds.
@northwestprof602 жыл бұрын
Liberals don't understand that ALL forms of energy have high prices on the environment, inc solar and wind, and the latter two forms are more feel-good toys at this point, capable of only a tiny fraction of our energy needs.
@ruddigerburns90514 жыл бұрын
334 windmills = 1 small damn.....Sorry birds.
@herpnderpn24844 жыл бұрын
...... More like 3 windmills? This very small project is just that. 12MW is a rounding error in an electrical grid.
@J-1410 Жыл бұрын
@@herpnderpn2484 12MW was the start of the Texas disaster that killed power to a third of the country, same for the NE one.
@henryostman57405 жыл бұрын
Ok, the fish win. How is the electric produced here (formerly) going to be replaced? need all the juice we can get to run all those electric cars here. windmills, gotta cut down the trees, solar panels, ditto, OH! fairy dust. that solves the problem.
@Putaspellonyou5 жыл бұрын
the amount of power small hydros like this is pitifully small
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. It was cheaper to remove the dam than to maintain it. Its all a smokescreen. The help it gives salmon is secondary.
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Layton 😧🔫
@ratj47154 жыл бұрын
We were being made to pay to keep this and many more outdated power going because the companies didn’t want to spend the money to remove them. And didn’t care because they just kept making us pay to keep them going the only way to keep these old plants going was to pass it on to us. And the government was letting them get away with it. This old Technology wasn’t paying for itself any longer it should’ve been gone a long time ago. The new Technology is so much better than this old Technology.
@HusseinDoha4 жыл бұрын
@@FYMASMD "Cheaper to destroy the dams than maintain it"? Is that your argument? 🤦♂️. WTF?!! Of course it's easier to destroy than you build. The economic effects are judged by the output it produced. Electricity. Yes, it was a small dam compared to others. But so was the river it was built on.
@Kamikaze_43 жыл бұрын
I wish they had a time-lapse of the whole thing without it cutting to a bunch of different shots.
@LaidBackGolf3 жыл бұрын
how was noone in this meeting like.. hey.. we should do a time lapse of the entire event.. and get the shot of the small stream turning into a river in one shot.. not these little clips
@davidepperson2376 Жыл бұрын
It’s a damn shame to remove these dams. Clean the, out, keep making technological improvements and build more of them. Otherwise, we may as well give up and move back into caves.
@magiccarp37104 жыл бұрын
Seems really stupid to have remove this dam
@ronward39494 жыл бұрын
Well spoken for the Anadromous Species! Fisheries and Coastal Connectivity can and will provide habitat, sediment can slowly be released or through larger flow pulses that effectively over time the release will begin to filter and release these sediments as river hydrology, flow regimes , and other aspects of the emerging new river system to adjust if most is organically acceptable and not toxic materials, mine tailings, or other more commercial style inputs from Industrial or other human activities. Beaver and muskrats help to systematically provide water tables through water retention activities, active management through downed woody debris recruitment, deeper water profiles to aid both species deep water cover to elude predators, and these guys take a bit too much credit as do many theoretical costs as Nature could do better as Human Dams are removed properly. Both species diversify and encourage vegetation growth and sproutin sites as ranker or more mature vegetation is consumed, utilized, and implemented into local food webs, nutrient cycles, insect development and recruitment such as Stoneflies, Caddisflies, etc, so Natural process and niche related activies help to restore Water tables on the River by slowing river or stream flows and are especially dutiful in low water years as they can efficiently manage water releases.
@ramonlunacorral96742 жыл бұрын
BIEN , BIG DAMS NO MORE, BUT LITTLE DAMS , VS EROSIONES YES , TRATAMIENTO INTEGRAL DE CUENCAS NO OLVIDARLO ES LA BASE DE LA CAPTURA Y COSECHA DE AGUA . ANIMOOOOOOOOOOO
@gordbaker8965 жыл бұрын
It is so sad to see a remarkable structure that provided power for 15,000 homes be destroyed on purpose. It would take hundreds if not thousands of windmills to equal that power. They only work up to 25 mph wind speed which usually happens during the day when less power is needed. Fish 'Ladders' have been successful. A million cubic yards of silt released. Its gotta go somewhere.
@spencerwilton58315 жыл бұрын
Gord Baker Hundreds or thousands of windmills? What makes you think that? In the UK we have 8 megawatt wind turbines, each can power thousands of average homes. Even in the US with their energy hungry, poorly built and poorly insulated houses I suspect four turbines would more than replace the power provided by this dam. Edit- just read the installed capacity was 22mw. So easily replaced with three turbines. As for the sediment, it will be very quickly washed downstream, in a matter of months if not weeks. It will go to the ocean which is exactly the same place it would have gone originally had the dam not been built. It sounds like a huge amount, and it is, but rivers very quickly reestablish a natural equilibrium, and this amount in the ocean is actually tiny in global terms, and short term damage will be massively outweighed by long term gains.
@Jemalacane02 жыл бұрын
@@spencerwilton5831 Wrong! Moving water exerts *much* greater force than moving air. Not to mention hydropower is dispatchable and wind is not.
@StevenPendleton4 жыл бұрын
Those salmon have learned to survive 100 years with a dam there. If that dam was so hurting nature there would be no salmon left. What a joke.
@FYMASMD4 жыл бұрын
You are the joke. Its obvious you know nothing about the salmon or this area. Stfu!!!
@heresmytake27824 жыл бұрын
hmm wonder what the cost of that Minn university river dam model and study was..
@maddad6214 жыл бұрын
Looks like another toy for university lunatics who have no real idea of what they are doing, don’t know what their work should produce and just wasting tax payers money for some fun! Typical of self assumed geniuses who can’t make it in the real world where results actually means something. Me thinks since it’s Oregon I wonder how much Dope was smoked to get rid of the dam and produce this video?
@bkbroiler80694 жыл бұрын
@alison webster I've got a BS in environmental science and I totally agree with the previous comment. Washing all sediment down stream probably did more damage to the rivers fish habitat than you can imagine. The buildup happened over time and the fish adapted to it and the ladder. The sediment just killed multiple generations of salmon.
@papabonedaddy41166 жыл бұрын
I love watching how dams are built. I also love seeing them destroyed. in both ways they are great. one way helps humanity get energy and water flow control....the other is just mother nature wild and free....I love both sides. Lotta people hate dams, a lot of people don't. I like um both.
@robertk90435 жыл бұрын
If ya all want it wild and free tear down Portland next and return it to the wild natural place it once was.
@Vinegaroon5 жыл бұрын
It's all about trade offs my friend
@bstuart81864 жыл бұрын
Robert K everything but the OMSI
@dps61983 жыл бұрын
Not only do the fish get their River back the free flowing can deposit the sediments down river where it can replenish the area around the mouth of the river reducing or slowing down coastal erosion.
@pnwRC.4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video of a fantastic engineering feat!
@Into_The_Mystery_139 ай бұрын
Wow great job everyone!
@markissboi35834 жыл бұрын
fish 😲 100 years l8tr wish these hoomans wud make up their mind
@organicdudranch4 жыл бұрын
leave the damn thing alone
@LeeryMuscrat4 жыл бұрын
I think you mean the DAM thing amirite. Hyukhyukhyuk
@JH-kh9lf4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it looked like 150 years ago, before all the Bridges and Dams?
@dundonrl Жыл бұрын
No cities, very little population and small farms and hunting. You want to go back to that time in our society, I really doubt it!
@patriciaposton14 жыл бұрын
To remove the rubble and sediment they are going to have to FISH NET THE WATER FLOOR TO PROTECT THE SALMON. Install fish nets about a quarter mile to half a mile up the water channel so the salmon will not be able to swim down the channel until they are finished doing the work of removing the damn, rubble, and sediment. That's also gives the area of water they will be working in to restore it's pH factor suitable for the fish.
@boydpoindexter7741 Жыл бұрын
now time to build some wild and scenic windmills
@benscoles50855 жыл бұрын
this was done several years ago now, I wonder what it looks like now, if the primary objective worked as planned, if the fish really benefit as much as expected, and the electric needs and bills after this .
@alex-marquette5 жыл бұрын
well the powerhouse that the dam helped supply with water was only able to produce enough electricity (22 Megawatts) for 12,000 homes. Compare this to the dams along the Columbia river and the respective tributaries generate 29 Gigawatts as of 2012 (the dam featured was taken out in 2007-2008) which can power roughly 21 million homes assuming standard electrical usage. So the dam was likely a drop in the bucket compared to where most Portland General Electric customers got their power from.
@MonthlyCramps4 жыл бұрын
@@alex-marquette You are correct. The direction is efficiency of money. There is no advantage to having many smaller generators when a few will do the job by simply modifying the distribution system. Other than that, the destruction of the smaller generators includes a lot of tax and cash flow benefits.
@ianstobie Жыл бұрын
So have crews of beavers now shown up and starting modifying the river to their own liking?