Post Malone Secret Lair & OCTOBER 2022 SUPERDROP | Is It Worth It to Pick Up?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

What are you buying from this one?

[@MrJustintreat]

I'm debating on the 30 cards for 30 days secret lair for December. Just depends on the rest of the card line up.

[@davidcavanaugh938]

A lot of Reserve List stuff…. Kinda slowed down on new stuff …

[@39josh05]

I just built mikaeus the unhallowed and it really wants a kirk and I already run jet medallion and a bolas citedel but will be switching them out when I get my back stage pass

[@JonReid01]

Junji Ito Foil Etched, Special Guest: Yoji Shinkawa Foil Edition, Totally Spaced Out Galaxy Foil, and some 40k ones for gifts to 40k friends. Looks like I'm hitting free shipping on this one. Really love the art this time.

[@obadijahparks]

Everything. I got everything like a chump.

[@Dracosd2]

the Post Malone secret lair has a single card that I need for my all foil mono black deck, the never printed in foil Jet Medallion.

[@richardboss2892]

Agreed. I got it just for Jet Medallion. I will absolutely trade the other cards. I really wish they had just done a secret lair with all 5. The art on it is ridiculously cool, too.

[@AaKkisa]

The Leshrac's Sigil goes with Aetherflux Reservoir which is most likely in Post's deck. You pay the 4 life that will get mitigated by the Reservoir within a few activations and then you can just do it a bunch to gain all of that life and one shot the table.

[@travisbloom2226]

So fun fact from one of the people who gives the art briefings to the artists, when he gave the art brief for Doomsday to Junji Ito all it said was "Make your own personal apocalypse." Also known as "Let the man do his thing."

[@APEXoftheAVATAR]

This is the analysis I've been waiting for! Between you and the Professor, I make my decisions partly on your analysis, If they art speaks to me, and financial value. But lately, it's been hard to keep up. I can only buy a few at a time. And buying secret lairs has cut into my normal magic buying habits. Something has got to give. Too many products and way too many secret lairs. I'm still trying to get cards from Kamagawa: Neon Dynasty that I missed. I haven't even opened a double masters or dominaria united booster yet....

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

High praise! We are happy to hear this helps.

[@enriquesoul5370]

Have a link for the Professor's financial breakdown of the Oct 2022 Superdrop?

[@APEXoftheAVATAR]

@@enriquesoul5370 I don't think the Professor has done a video on them yet. I haven't heard the "New Secret Lair Alert!" Yet.

[@Hot_Dice]

Yoji is my fav. Picking up 3 of his, two foil cuz the empty space is gonna look crazy

[@JonReid01]

I'm going to get a couple of the Galaxy foil bundles. I did the same with the gilded foil secret lair and I feel like holding them. Long term people might appreciate the weird foil secret lairs.

[@Beckola44]

You are so right about the Secret Lair products. Most of the time you do not get much value by giving us commons and uncommons as well as the lands. It does not cost Wizards to give us more value but they don't. I very rarely buy these type of products. Plus, they put out too many Secret Lairs every year.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Despite this sentiment, check out the 30th anniversary secret lair. Good value. Not financial advice

[@giokazephyn354]

Beast Whisperer and Wood Elves are both $0.00 cards. They’re both being given out as promos for M30, and both with brand new art. I don’t think skullclamp is gonna hold it’s value because that’s already being reprinted everywhere. It’s in the 40K set, it’s in the BRO commander decks.

[@Redalus]

This secret lair drop feels like it was custom made for me, I'm buying Special Guest Junji Ito, Warhammer Age of Sigmar, Warhammer 40,000 Orks, and Post Malone Backstage pass - all of my interests perfectly catered to 😎

[@jeremiahchamberlain4179]

As long as you keep your foils in a binder or if in a deck in a nice tight deck box, pringling really isnt a problem. Using prism or boulder deck boxes with doubpe sleeved cards and pringling is a non issue

[@starmanda88]

I mean… my 40k collectors set *came out of the box* totally bent. So idk about all that 😅

[@jeremiahchamberlain4179]

@@starmanda88 so did mine, i did exactly what i just said and they are perfectly flat, can send a pic if you like.

[@AbyssArray]

When you mentioned the price of Blind Obedience, I did a double take.. I didn't realize it climbed that high lol I remember buying it for much less 3 years ago

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Such a good card.

[@bongatumtum]

Great video, guys! I'm in for Ito and Shinkawa. I like the idea of bringing artists who aren't traditionally MtG artists into the game and this is a cool way to show support for it. I like the idea of the galaxy foil one in theory, but I got burned on the Neon Foil SL a while back with them being ugly and curl city, so anything foil is a no-go for me. (Plus I was lucky enough to pull an expedition Strip Mine in a Zendikar Rising CB, so I'm good on that card.) I don't care for Post Malone as an artist, but I totally agree with Joel that it is overall good for the game in bringing recognition to it. Nothing else really speaks to me and I'm not a Warhammer player.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

It’s nice to have ones that are easy to skip.

[@graefx]

As a rabid Zone of the Enders fan, Yoji Shinkawa was an instant buy for me. All the Warhammer stuff jumps out at me. I have a Helmsmasher deck that'd be awesome to have Gaz. But I loved WAR back in college too so the Sigmar one might be my move if I get any.

[@graefx]

I wish we got some warhammer version tokens for Everchosen

[@Wrekzasaurs1234]

I was immediately so excited when I saw a post Malone lair that I immediately scrapped most decks I was working on to make a Kirik deck

[@keeganbaker2325]

The junji ito one is a must cop for me. I love his manga and the art on these cards are insane. Plus I want to build and aristocrats deck

[@isaiahduran3567]

Love the video, I thought I was done with Thought Seizes. Have a playset of retro frame. Have the borderless double masters and the x22 dm art. Maybe I'll be able to trade away some of the borderless ones and get these new ones into my Yawgmoth deck. Also for the 40k sets, I'm probably getting the bundles and I'll gift the bloodbowl to my brother inlaw who plays bloodbowl and MTG. Seems like something he would enjoy

[@jamesgratz4771]

I’m getting the warhammer one with the scourge of the throne. Also the one with tezzeret. The arts on those are just really sweet

[@x_DNR_x]

Posty Jet Medallion for my Chatterfang Gang Deck. Possibly the Metal Gear for the Art.

[@squiggless3968]

Ragavan is a weird pet, that would have been cool.

[@codelicious6590]

I will give this advice to anyone having a hard time resisting the FOMO- it gets easier each time you win!

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

This is the way.

[@joshuadempsey5281]

Ill def get Yoji and the Post (non-land). Both in foil cuz i love the risk lol. beyond that im not sure yet. I like some cards in each but i see a lot of singles being bought for this super drop

[@BigDrew49]

I'll be getting a few of these, I just hope the time frame overlaps with the Scorpio (my sign, and the only one I'm getting of) the astrology lands so I can bundle shipping.

[@jaggededge11]

I would have considered picking some up if the Chibis were also available through Secret Lair. But because of that, I'm probably going to pass on the lot.

[@syndieouellet2763]

I want the Galaxy ones, such a good treatment, they are brighter and almost straight and they are just, beautiful, they'll just be perfect addictions in my warhammer decks, with unfinity lands.

[@supranova7594]

They must've missed it but the If Looks Could Kill lair has some weird errors where the liliana doesn't have legendary frame at the top despite being legendary and the reflector mage Does have the legend frame despite not being

[@DDRmassa]

I'm getting the big bundle. I love all of the art. The pets and the looks could kill are good, but the rest is all S tier for me.

[@Shim_Shack_Studio]

Just pre-ordered Post Malone bundle, along with the Warhammer bundle. I have been playing Warhammer 40k for about 18 years now, I have full battalion of Space Marines who are always up for a fight. I also have a hive of all flying swarm of Tyranids. I had to get the Secret Lair bundle for sure. How can you not pick up Posts drop though? It's going to be a part of MTG history and definitely glad it'll be a part of my collection.

[@justinb845]

I bought the English sad robot, tezzeret, skull clamp secret lair. That one looks sick and I have a spot for every card. I even had a tezzeret the seeker in my cart on TCG player I will now be waiting a few months for.

[@SourWeezle]

I'm hoping the "bonus" in the Galaxy Lands will be a secret bangerrr!

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Possibly so!

[@Pubmaster32]

I love warhammer stuff in general, so I am glad that it has enough value to justify picking them up, the blood bowl one breaks my heart though :(

[@grasshopper1153]

great video. i don't have a ton of knowledge about Commander, so this helps me get a good idea of what cards are valuable.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the feedback

[@StaskOne]

Leshrac's sigil is for infinity combo with k'rrik, the last piece is aetherflux reservoir and i hope its going to be in bonus card

[@pocketyukariyakumo5959]

I just got the orks, because orks are beautiful creatures

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

I love orks. I have a few painted from years ago, but never learned to play :/

[@pocketyukariyakumo5959]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic I got into the game because of the warhammer collab, as I am a warhammer player and was like, "Wow these genuinely look somewhat like they would on the table" so I got the imperium and nid deck, thinking on the necron one if I can even find one that isn't the collectors edition

[@emida2012]

Are you sure about the foils and curling? Because when I received my last Secret Lair Super Drop, no clue what it was even called, the one that had the left-handed creatures and stuff, all the foils (except the Gilded Foils!) were in perfect quality and none of them curl to this day. So I would say there is a possibility they are working on improving it.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Good looking out and happy to hear it

[@KarimJovian]

What about the Hasbro exlcusive lil liller planeswalkers

[@chewysprees]

Weirdest Pets - have always liked the artist so buying that and after this video taking a second look at Yoji and Space Beyond the Stars

[@ericrenehenriquezpalomar7217]

Imagine Tim Henson from Polyphia as a Black-White commander, that would be sick

[@BM-rd4ms]

I ended up proxying all of the Walking Dead cards by making them custom cards with fantasy art and flavor text of my own design.

[@savannahlion3081]

Nope Malone! And those Lands are just AWE-FULL! Have a fine week. 🤘🦁🤘

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thanks for the continued support!

[@tedybruschi12345]

Dope vid guys thanks!

[@MrThetruthhurts]

The last several secret lairs have been in a envelope packaging don’t Pringle like the secret lairs in boxes.

[@drewp9819]

The Doomsday looks amazing

[@jackdeth1969]

Backstage pass and totally spaced out because I have none of the cards value sort of balances out

[@Pers0n97]

Wait, can someone explain to me what are the secret lair bonus cards? Do all the secret lair get a bonus card?

[@cubencis]

I have serious serious wallet fatigue

[@amimeoramiu]

Bloodbowl has nothing to do with 40k. It’s a stand alone game of football. You have fantasy teams that play a brutal cross of football and rugby 😁

[@magusofthebargain]

secret lairs for $29.99 with a total value of $18 is good for the long term secondary market.

[@obadijahparks]

It has the jet! It's mono black! It's got a celebrity that doesn't speak for me, and all other magic players but here we are! But yeah...

[@xMEGATON96x]

Leshrac's Sigil is a combo card in K'rrik. Can pair w Aetherflux Reservoir to deathstar blast everyone or less likely but w/ Pontiff of Bought and at least 6 other creatures and 4 players in play can extort everyone to death

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Beautiful! Thanks for the breakdown

[@greenneck5396]

The warhammer secret lair just feels so dirty after releasing 100 card decks for a few dollars more

[@CrackinJank]

People who play Stasis also rip the wings off of flies.

[@Badassest]

I love the art for lady of scrolls, najeela, fling, all the shinkawa arts, posty jet. Im disappointed the 40k arts are not in theme with the 40k precon borders/art tbh. My friend gave me necron dynasties for my birthday so im not happy to see the SL 40k white card that taps artifacts lol. Fling tho- love it. Fabled passage is cool, like all the art in that drop too. Here is something interesting tho- i had considered making a 5c 40k deck and the hammer najeela makes that feasable. I just want lady of scrolls- will wait on the single. May buy the drop with aggravated assault but im wondering what a 30th anniv drop could be. If its not tournament legal it can kiss my ass.

[@Badassest]

Looked up the 30th anniv SL, not interested lol

[@alphonse2234]

30th anniversary secret lair already revealed.

[@wilfredomembrere4999]

Got the post lands lol big post fan don’t really care I wanted all the post stuff!

[@Eastwood420]

Secret Lair: Foil Jet Medallion

[@jeffrhall9219]

Honestly, I'm tempted to just skip the whole thing and buy the singles. (The few cards I've looked for tend to be only a few cents/dollars more that the regular issue. (At least with the month long secret lairs.) I want to get the Warhammer secret lairs for additions (Even if they are poor mixes.) to my Warhammer commander decks but again, why? Just wait. Get the singles when they finally are released late next year.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Good thoughts here

[@BrandoThompson]

me looking at Post Malone Secret Lair :::::::flicks booger at wall::::::: " I'm sick of this dude "

[@hermodnitter3902]

What I'm buying? Nothing. Never bought a secret lair, don't like wotc selling singles... I feel it kind of fuels their greed leading to even more atrocious products like the 30th anniversery madness. But I appreciate videos like these, they are entertaining and I get to know what cards are reprinted that I can pick up as cheaper singles after the drop releases.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Nice, good to know what works for you as a consumer. Def not worth it to fomo out.

[@chadbauer]

Krrk Doomsday and sigil almost combos turn one

[@controlaltdeleteish]

ima pick up the skull clamp box 100%

[@Pubmaster32]

I love blood bowl so much and it really sucks that they picked such cheap cards, I wouldn't have minded at least if they were all cheap but good in all decks like the felwar stone reprint Also regarding playing blood bowl, its more of a grid based sports game with lots of blood and violence rather than a normal skirmish game like 40k with a low set up time like you remembered. Main difference is the goal is to play the ball over 16 turns rather than playing until everyone on the other side is dead, only touchdowns get you points to win

[@codelicious6590]

I swear you guys went to KZbin school didnt you? Cuz your vids together are always quite polished. Not because you got your educations on yt.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thank you!

[@codelicious6590]

Not nearly enough Orks!

[@chayadol]

The pet one really miss an opportunity for me, instead of making those 5 familiars from Commander Legend, They made this instead lol Its pretty consistent from what they always do tho lol keep missing all a good opportunity for a lot of drops.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

There probably just isn’t a lot of time to develop and they have to just hit deadlines.

[@chayadol]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic that could ,more likely, to be case lol judging from how many drop they throw at us. They prolly pull this to hit the end of the year profit number.

[@Cujucuyo]

I've been buying Secret Lairs since they came out, FOMO died real quick and I noticed that WOTC is reprinting the chase cards in Secret Lairs one or two months after the SL had them, why? No idea but now I'm only buying if they have good EDH value, Post Malone's SL is amazing value and the art is pretty good, like super in-line with the murky old-school art. As for the others I'm getting a select few, the Warhammer are a hard pass, I like the lore but the card choices are ass and I'm tired of the crossovers, like entirely sick of it. The galaxy foils I'm getting because I love the throwback to Pokemon card foils with their galaxy pattern.

[@tonyl9475]

I'd like a Christmas theme secret lair with a Christmas theme

[@Fivehe]

I think wotc tries to be nondenominational a bit

[@Mrbuzzfuzz]

wants tarot reading now

[@TheChadarad]

Really seems that tragic slip should have been one of the cards in posties secret lair considering his luck at his concerts recently…..too soon? 😅

[@SP-v]

Going to buy more of the countdown kits instead.

[@Fivehe]

I totally missed the countdowns after staying on top of secret lairs for so long 😂 finally one that’s worth it and I miss it

[@traviswaldrop3793]

I'm not picking up anything my wallet can't handle it right now well I love the art But there is no value

[@imanujakku]

The mschf secret lair and the kelogsloops foils have been flat.

[@RemieLebeau]

EU value of cards is way less sadly making it even less worth it to put down money

[@hip5702]

30th anniversary secret lair is up

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Just the countdown currently, but yes appearing on the site.

[@jamesgratz4771]

A lot of bulk

[@hip5702]

@@jamesgratz4771 Yeah, i'm gonna have to pass on it. Would love an old border foil chrome mox. But not gonna gamble 160 euro on it.

[@jamesgratz4771]

@@hip5702 no they filled it with disappointing fluff. Chrome mox and necropotence are the chase cards. And it reprints deathrite shaman

[@bennieboy64]

the bonus cards for the warhammer 40k are wastes

[@CharlesHenning]

No...

[@Heratic458]

bro needs to put some lotion on his scalp

[@richardpatriarca211]

I think Post Malone cards look so lame IMO

[@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w]

I genuinely didn't know whom malone was untill mtg started milking him. I checked out his music the other day and i felt like i needed to be a 16 year old to like that autotuned drivel.

[@moreplease394]

How does it smell?

[@blaze556922]

Secret lair isn't something you guys should be supporting. It was a bad idea and has caused nothing but problems. Why promote greed instead of standing up to it? You both know that selling directly to consumers and doing away with MSRP has been the beginning of every issue we're facing with wotc.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

When you watch the video, you will notice we each say that we are only getting one thing- its a review to HELP people resist fomo. We aren’t shilling the product, we are breaking it down and letting people know its okay to pass unless part of it speaks to you or you want to support a specific artist. I appreciate the criticism.

[@blaze556922]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic I would never suggest you guys are shills and I really appreciate your opinions. I've just never heard you denounce secret lairs as a product and advise people to not support that business model. If you have, I've missed it. I get that sometimes opening a product that might give others fomo can help them resist that. Didn't realize that was your intent and commented to hastily.

[@lanesteele240]

The post drop is about as cringe as it gets

[@bothpartiesaretotaldogsht5750]

You read my mind

[@JonReid01]

Because it's Post Malone specifically? edit: i was wrong my bad

[@bothpartiesaretotaldogsht5750]

@@JonReid01 lol Well the world is full of stupid people; just because things are popular among the hoi polloi, doesn't make it good. What are, an 11 year old??

[@lanesteele240]

@@JonReid01 no. He is ok. The names of the cards look like the were created by a 7 year old

[@JonReid01]

@@lanesteele240 gotcha. i don't like the art that much either

[@maxbodifee3263]

No it is another pathetic product contributing to the downfall of MTG

[@Dec0y77]

first

[@RickyChops]

If it isn't the judge promo K'rikk, it just doesn't matter.

[@SloppySyntax]

Sending my K'rrik to Post's fan mail address. Hoping for a signature!

[@neekobolas]

Ye ima defs cop that posty one 🤌

[@breeze7464]

Wait what? Aggravated assault is $30+!? Jfc

[@Deebofreebo]

Calling it now that the post malone secret lair will have some number of signed copies sent out (1? 10? 100? 1000?). Who knows. But if wizards doesn’t idk what they are doing.