Post Office scandal: 'The sub-postmasters are fed up', says campaigner

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5 ай бұрын

Journalist and campaigner Nick Wallis says that sub-postmasters and mistresses are fed up with the response of the authorities to the Horizon IT scandal.
More than 700 sub-postmasters and mistresses had their reputations ruined by allegations of theft and false accounting, with many left bankrupt or in prison, as a result of the computer system.
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@OneEyedDronie
@OneEyedDronie 5 ай бұрын
People need to go to jail for all this.. and NOT the sub-postmasters! Strip that witch of her CBE and then lock her up along with all the members of the PO board!
@adrianvassallo5630
@adrianvassallo5630 5 ай бұрын
And I have heard on Newsnight on BBC2 that she has done a runner and is nowhere to be found !!!
@apiscator444
@apiscator444 5 ай бұрын
Along with the post office investigators and prossecutors that apparently committed pergery, living to courts that only sub post masters could change data and that ther were no faults in the Fujitsu system. Those need to go to jail as well.
@auntiegc7880
@auntiegc7880 5 ай бұрын
The issue of Paula Vennells' CBE is a massive red herring. She became CEO in 2012, long after problems with Horizon and unwarranted "investigations" and prosecutions came to light. And the longest-serving member of the present Board has been in post since 2015. Virtually all the others joined 2021-2023.
@andym.6141
@andym.6141 5 ай бұрын
The imbalance between the power of large corporates and those of ordinary individuals must be addressed.
@blazzz13
@blazzz13 5 ай бұрын
@andym.6141 How when we've put a party that represents those large corporation interests in power for 80 of the last 123 years?
@SB-th8uc
@SB-th8uc 5 ай бұрын
​@@blazzz13 Ironically Labour and the Lib Dems are also complicit bar one or two MPs from all sides. There are few heroes in this story.
@davidgay1z
@davidgay1z 5 ай бұрын
Here is the thing, apart from all the other aspects of this affair the role of Lord Neuberger in the Recusal seems to have escaped attention. I have therefore pasted the following ‘The role of Lord Neuberger in the recusal fiasco (Justice Fraser) should be investigated’ on as many KZbin articles as I could, about ten, but when I checked to see if there was any response I discovered they had all been taken down. This Kafkaesque episode staggers one at every turn, even when Big brother has been outed he seems to be still working away! I really want to know why Lord Neuberger interfered , if the recusal had succeeded the whole noble attempt at taking on the stinking system would have failed.@@blazzz13
@andrewemery4272
@andrewemery4272 5 ай бұрын
Nick Wallis deserves the CBE
@speed1223
@speed1223 5 ай бұрын
The fact that documents were redacted is in itself a non brainer crime. All liars should be brought to justice immediately. If this happened in the USA then it would have been game over by now.
@TCO345
@TCO345 5 ай бұрын
Not if the are Democrat voters.
@davidgay1z
@davidgay1z 5 ай бұрын
Here is the thing, apart from all the other aspects of this affair the role of Lord Neuberger in the Recusal seems to have escaped attention. I have therefore pasted the following ‘The role of Lord Neuberger in the recusal fiasco (Justice Fraser) should be investigated’ on as many KZbin articles as I could, about ten, but when I checked to see if there was any response I discovered they had all been taken down. This Kafkaesque episode staggers one at every turn, even when Big brother has been outed he seems to be still working away! I really want to know why Lord Neuberger interfered , if the recusal had succeeded the whole noble attempt at taking on the stinking system would have failed.
@apiscator444
@apiscator444 5 ай бұрын
Fed up is a massive understatement
@jeremiahkearney5191
@jeremiahkearney5191 5 ай бұрын
As part of the “composition” the post office should be made put up public notice in every post office apologising to all the postmasters and the staff who were wrongly accused of “all criminality” associated with the Horizon software. And include names where agreed with the victims.
@cavendish009
@cavendish009 5 ай бұрын
Well said !!!!! Good to hear that some people CARE about the horror these poor people went through.
@Joeyknows924
@Joeyknows924 5 ай бұрын
Great job Nick Wallace the government better sort this out as Post office cant be trusted
@Royboy50
@Royboy50 5 ай бұрын
Neither can the government,never ever ever trust government,they are not on your side ,they are basically the enemy within
@alandransfield1257
@alandransfield1257 5 ай бұрын
The ICO have been complicit with the PO as to allow refusalsbof FOI request which is unlawful
@VPPAF
@VPPAF 5 ай бұрын
doing everything digital is such a great idea isnt it
@chieftandriver703
@chieftandriver703 5 ай бұрын
But but but women in the boardroom. 🙄
@Rachel_M_
@Rachel_M_ 5 ай бұрын
I crossed head office with a different company. In my experience, only had 1 bad male manager, who was a bit feminist. All my female managers have been toxic in a work environment. Things get very "cliquey". It's all points scoring.
@LuffyDaGoat
@LuffyDaGoat 5 ай бұрын
I sincerely hope the postmasters get their dues. I feel so bad about what happened to them and they've had to go through.
@pearlnicol2443
@pearlnicol2443 5 ай бұрын
Was the system in fact set up to scam, recording false entires of shortfalls that didn't exist? There must be a completely separate public Inquiry just on the computer system and who knew what about it. If this was authorised by the lawyers, accountants and management then jail time in Durham and Wakefield is appropriate.
@Royboy50
@Royboy50 5 ай бұрын
It appears to me the PO was having short falls but couldn’t trace them ,so this scheme was rigged to fix a problem they were unable to trace thus making these people guilty with IT evidence pre loaded in ,sorry if it sounds vague but I can’t put it any other way.
@lucyhardy-styles-shield2728
@lucyhardy-styles-shield2728 4 ай бұрын
Think that's acceptable, they'd BEG to be out of Frankland and Wakefield, they're not called Hell and Monster Mansion for no reason
@TBFI_Botswana
@TBFI_Botswana 5 ай бұрын
I bet the NHS Trust is over the moon 😬
@user-hp8it3mm6p
@user-hp8it3mm6p 5 ай бұрын
This must not end here.
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 ай бұрын
Justice for Postmasters Good! Justice for vaccine victims: better!
@Paws4Thought669
@Paws4Thought669 5 ай бұрын
Yet again the politicians, authorities and higher management put political and career gains over doing the right thing and stepping in early to say "something is wrong and we need to look at this " I would say shame on them, but they have none. If Rishi has any chance of winning the election he needs to grow a pair and do the right thing and do it properly
@T5Zplayer
@T5Zplayer 5 ай бұрын
Your comment makes no sense
@poneill65
@poneill65 5 ай бұрын
Here's to Nick Wallis OBE (hopefully alongside Mr. Bates)
@hattieu1428
@hattieu1428 5 ай бұрын
What were the auditors doing at that time? What were the superiors of the post office doing? The system error was obvious. All those related auditors, government officials and/or who are related should be in jail.
@auntiegc7880
@auntiegc7880 5 ай бұрын
Therein lies the problem. Clearly something was going badly wrong, but the "system error" WASN'T obvious, especially as Fujitsu, who developed and maintained it, insisted for such a long time that it was completely robust.
@dardobartoli
@dardobartoli 5 ай бұрын
Nick Wallis and Alan Bates should run this whole affair.... and be paid handsomely.
@T5Zplayer
@T5Zplayer 5 ай бұрын
How much has he made from this ? Half a million? More?
@TCO345
@TCO345 5 ай бұрын
They are to busy checking your thinking to have time to investigate it.
@Crouchy232323
@Crouchy232323 5 ай бұрын
I hope my local postie is not caught up in this. He is a lovely young man who always smiles and says hello. I asked him about it this morning and he was very evasive. I hope that he is innocent but I'm having my doubts 😡
@auntiegc7880
@auntiegc7880 5 ай бұрын
A "postie" is a postman. Postmen work for Royal Mail, an entirely separate company. What do problems with computers on Post Office counters have to do with people who deliver mail??? Idiot.
@billcharlton5536
@billcharlton5536 5 ай бұрын
There is another hidden scandal
@billcharlton5536
@billcharlton5536 5 ай бұрын
Mps have ignored my document
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 5 ай бұрын
A ‘clean criminal record’ ?
@georgethepatriot2785
@georgethepatriot2785 5 ай бұрын
Suprised no one ever queried 700 ? Hard to believe that many would fiddle
@Royboy50
@Royboy50 5 ай бұрын
Paula Vennells,if lt looks like a lizard it probably is a lizard
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr 5 ай бұрын
Venomous Vennels
@michaeldelsoldato2905
@michaeldelsoldato2905 5 ай бұрын
All the money that was extorted from the Sub Postmaster was done by the government that was supposed to protect them. Those who perpetrated this to include the judiciary need to be prosecuted.
@harryhunt1735
@harryhunt1735 5 ай бұрын
its bad how a tv program had to be made in order to get some sort of justice is that how our justice system now works?
@abigailpip112
@abigailpip112 Ай бұрын
Those poor people! ( Subpostmasters) all rhis time and they still have no re-,dress. Actions need to be taken from the top ( responsible ministers) all rhe way through to the local managers and Fujitsu managers. It's not ok to lie on oath, to persecute people, to browbeat them inro parting with money and pleading guilty to crimes they have not committed.
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr 5 ай бұрын
Michelle Mone must be rubbing her hands in glee. Focus away from her at least for a wee while
@RupertMurdoch-kp1nt
@RupertMurdoch-kp1nt 5 ай бұрын
imagine if fujitsu was a chinese company. why cannot uk run its own post offices
@olixz
@olixz 5 ай бұрын
So easy to fail upwards in this country. MBE my blokes effort
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr 5 ай бұрын
Just need to look at Johnson to see that tye so called elites fall upwards
@StillYHWHs
@StillYHWHs 5 ай бұрын
Every thing I mailed out never made it. Just about all of it in 7yrs. I recieve all items destroyed or not at all. There is a corrupt happening in this. They even peed on my chair. Gave my stuff to neighbors. I've seen some take a pkg. Put at the doors. Take a pic. Pick it up and take it with them. It is corrupt in more ways than one. That doesn't mean all are involved. Many are.
@auntiegc7880
@auntiegc7880 5 ай бұрын
Oh do shut up, troll. The Post Office has nothing to do with delivering mail.
@susanb4816
@susanb4816 5 ай бұрын
The host stammers too much
@tomhermens7698
@tomhermens7698 5 ай бұрын
State owned. !!!! Couldn't run a milk float!!!
@TheRuleOf8020
@TheRuleOf8020 5 ай бұрын
Where were Sky/BBC other news outlets when all these poor people started being persecuted years ago? Such shallow treatment compared to now. Sadly our media is as bad as our politicians.
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 5 ай бұрын
It was the BBC who broke the story 10 years ago, and persistently aired stuff on it over the years. Look it up, cupcake.
@TheRuleOf8020
@TheRuleOf8020 5 ай бұрын
@@AA-yc8yr I did it says Computer Weekly.
@velouris76
@velouris76 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRuleOf8020 OK, Computer Weekly broke the story first, but there were two full-length BBC Panorama documentaries (one, I think in 2013, the other 2015, I think one was done by Nick Wallis, interviewed here) so it’s wrong to say that the BBC are only covering this now… Here is a link to one of the Panorama documentaries, from 2015: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGTFqmp9ZbuEaaMsi=LaW7JQWwAj3IhyD-
@commonwunder
@commonwunder 5 ай бұрын
People will always abuse a system... when they feel they can getaway with it. The sub-Post Office company structure... of allowing independent business owners access, to every aspect of the customer 'transaction' was always going to be plagued with people skimming money off it. The Post Office allowed this... but then it got out of hand. It became ubiquitous, even considered normal. A deterrent had to be implemented. It backfired. It's really quite tough to defeat human nature.
@auntiegc7880
@auntiegc7880 5 ай бұрын
"It became ubiquitous, even considered normal". That's the grossest exaggeration and absolute bloody nonsense!!!
@commonwunder
@commonwunder 5 ай бұрын
@@auntiegc7880 The truth always hurts.
@leonardomonno3648
@leonardomonno3648 5 ай бұрын
Putin done it !😂😂😂😂
@skepticalwhiteguy
@skepticalwhiteguy 5 ай бұрын
Shame on israel
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 5 ай бұрын
For defending itself. Yeah. You'd have done differently, one assumes?
@12bigredd
@12bigredd 5 ай бұрын
Why the news channels only reporting thus now? This is why the right wing coperate press neefs breaking up. We all knew this years ago.
@wilfredsterling2124
@wilfredsterling2124 5 ай бұрын
Cover ups yet again. Great to see this getting the coverage and attention it deserves. Next the Grenfell cover up getting the scrutiny it should have. As well as the other buildings/ properties devalued by the insanity of using inflammable cladding on buildings.
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