POSTGAME: Justin Fields excels but Chicago Bears defense CRUMBLES in epic loss | CHGO Bears Podcast

[@joshuadavidson1599]

Lol I love whenever Lawrence ends the show abruptly

[@ddm62571]

I might hold some blame the Fields on the last play on the fumble but honestly anybody who blames Justin Fields for the loss doesn't know football! I would point my finger more at the coaching than anything else!

[@thejedeye13]

I'm not blaming Fields for nothing. That Last play was on Darnell Wright not Fields.

[@ddm62571]

@thejedeye13 Oh absolutely! Darnell got beat but Fields had absolutely no pocket awareness on that play.

[@daniellopez3606]

@@ddm62571he was too busy looking for guy cuz he got 30 seconds on the clock to go 50years down the field for field goal range don’t come with that bull shit

[@mirrorblue100]

Amen

[@mg8812]

Justin isn't paid to block. Wright is a fault for that fumble. Fields played his ass off. Leave him alone.

[@robertcorsini4399]

I'm enjoying watching you and the chat tear yourselves apart over this. Yes, fire everyone and go into another rebuild so the LIONS can win more against your team.

[@robdaniel3211]

Having Tyler Scott on that route instead of Darnell Mooney is just coaching malpractice.

[@kevonalexander425]

That play occured and my initial thought was "Marvin catches that ball 10/10 times"

[@B-Bibbles]

Not to mention that DJ Moore was wide open on the drag route underneath on that throw.

[@bigdap100]

Luke Getsy threw that game, the mafia called in a favor.

[@mrhebrew7511]

THANK YOU!!

[@christiansolid1702]

Staaap just stop

[@mikegiammaria]

Did anybody else notice the clock not running while the Bears had the ball? Not just when they were calling time outs, it started with about ten minutes to go.

[@fastfish1186]

End of game was just a repeat of the end of first half. They played right into what Goff does well & left the underneath open. Lack of consistent pressure is still a major problem. Coaching continued to get tighter as the game & situations gain pressure. Wasn't really upset with this loss, I saw it coming the entire forth quarter. Can definitely win with Fields. We still in best case scenario imo.

[@thedeadice6121]

That's why Jamo is so good. He got that 30 yd TD and then next drive the Bears were scared of letting him get over the top which allowed St. Brown and Goff to work underneath

[@walterkuchta9232]

You saw it coming. The Bears had an 8 minute drive with all runs to open the 4th. I call bs

[@fastfish1186]

@@thedeadice6121 Zone beater, bad scheme. Need to press man & use the physical DB's strengths. They have minimal pass rush is still the problem.

[@fastfish1186]

@@walterkuchta9232 You saw no problem with Fields only throwing one pass the entire 4th quarter? Think you should self evaluate what you think you're watching, 'cause you're either lying to yourself or blind.

[@robertjacques6812]

No way would the Lions want Fields over Goff. Come on.

[@acedill2860]

Not throwing the ball to your most talented receivers when the game is on the line, is on the OC. Prevent defense with obvious secondary mishaps is on the DC/coach.

[@Dcw-rp6ib]

I am not a Bears fan but to rebuild you can't constantly change coaches and systems. I see this all the time and is why some teams never get better.

[@Talbert61]

I have been a lifelong Bears fan, I know I am in the minority but I agree with you. We have to give this rebuild time to grow and develop. This team is playing hard and have not quit on the coaches. This was a tough loss but nobody expected us to even be able to compete with Detroit we just need to learn how to finish games. I can guarantee you Detroit knows we are significantly better than we were last year.

[@Duddudude]

Seriously haven’t you seen enough? The definition of insanity is……….

[@UR_Right24]

But you can also cease to get better when you let a regime that there is enough data now to suggest isn't very good stay too long at the party. No sense is letting coaches and certain players hang around when you are convinced they aren't it.

[@TheRealMallard]

Eberflus is literally the worst coach in franchise history, he needs to go. If you want to keep Getsy fine, but Eberflus has to go

[@Hullified]

If the coach takes responsibility. But I don’t hear much taking responsibility from Eberflus.

[@degenscoobydoo]

uncle bud’s!!

[@godsongodson8930]

MHJ makes those catches pick the WR with #1 pick

[@thatinternetdude1392]

He wouldn't have been running that route...

[@DuggyDuce]

Makes sense

[@chef-2117]

I'm sick of all the trash talk on FIELDS He played his ass off🐻⬇️

[@justinaustin5130]

Saying the Lions would rather have Fields than Goff is insane. Goff has had a great season and just put together a game winning drive. Something Fields never does

[@Hullified]

First since 1932 where a team was +3 turnovers and 40 minutes of clock control to lose a game.

[@justamaninTN]

That is a fucking disgrace.

[@jayTeal]

Excels. Fields barely threw for any yards. Last time I checked he isn’t a running back.

[@Dcw-rp6ib]

What you don't understand is what the Lion's showed in the last 4 minutes is what is called Grit and the Bears tho they look promising is they didn't have Grit. 313 !!!.

[@ericthurman1050]

Hoge and Braggs welcome to the Justin fields fan club. We have been saying everything you are saying now for two years! Every game! W e have seen this for two years and have been calling for Getsy to go since he got here. I know a lot of fans are anti 0 Justin but between todays's game, Bagent's last 3 game and regression I think we all can see that the coaches are the problem and are not even allowing for a fair evaluation of ANY players let alone Justin. Please Keep this same energy going forward Maybe you guys can ask GETSY Wed what the hell is he doing taking the ball out of Justin's hands.

[@BearsnBrews]

They gave fields a 3rd and long and 26 seconds to save the game. Took the ball out of his hands for 5 minutes and played prevent defense to blow the lead he built before that

[@AMBNumbr1StunaYT]

And feilds is so great but constantly loses. Logic

[@ericthurman1050]

@@AMBNumbr1StunaYT reread the post you replied to. He lost due to that. How many games have they gone conservative in the 4th quarter? How many became losses? use logic

[@bigdap100]

Justin Fields played a great game.

[@lucrative6477]

No, he didn’t.

[@CrossMyHeart_clothing]

He played a GOOD game. Not great.

[@Enjoydetroit392]

Keep you’re head up. You guys got talent and a ton of Capital to get better. Any game can be that turn around game. We started 1-6 even got shutout to a Bailey Zappe lead Patriots team 🤦‍♂️ All it takes is that 1 game. Ours was the Packers game in week 8 only won by 6 but something started to click

[@deganhardt77]

this loss is not because of tyler scott lmfao. he had a chance for a big catch, but its the coaches that made that catch necessary in the first place.

[@angelsanchez-zb2rj]

Well the thing is we've seen this in alot of games we're the coaches take the ball out of fields hands in the crucial moments

[@christiansolid1702]

Fields is a Glorified RUNNING BACK

[@dewter007]

Im so glad the majority isn't blaming Fields. As 1 sided as this fan base is they surprised me this evening.

[@jerryleeelvisberryrichard6247]

I left with 4 minutes left and missed the collapse. Glad for that!

[@cashaetaylor7466]

Faults: COACHES NEED TO BE FIRED ASAP 🔥! DEFENSE GAVE UP 8 POINTS IN UNDER 2MINS LEFT. FIELDS NOT GETTING ANY HITTING FLAGS! NFL CLOCK WAS RIGGED!!!! 👊👊👊👊🤬🤬🤬

[@javohnmay157]

Justin should’ve never been put a position to put on a cape with 30 seconds left defense let us down bad

[@DuggyDuce]

Facts

[@ryanthompson1770]

Teams were 83-0 leading by 12 with 4 minutes left before today.

[@domino8820]

Yea it's really unreal how fields slide and lions players still hitting him and no flag I don't think fields has ever received a roughing the passer call these refs are something else and the more these things happen the more i think the NFL is fixed

[@electric8668]

Tyler Scott's fumble and non catch of a well placed ball. Jaylon Johnson dropped 2 interceptions. Luke Getsy coming away with no points are 2 takeaways.Getsy 3 RB runs straight up the middle against a stacked box to close the game. All of that is the signs of a well coached team.

[@Red87star]

Flus will never lose his mind nor show emotion for anything. Shouldve all been fired after the GB week 1 atrocity.🤦‍♂️ If THAT was the extreme lack of preparation and disorder after an entire off-season, the rest since is no surprise and on Poles/Warren.

[@Bearsizbackbby]

Since last year JF1 has played unbelievable against playoff opponents and the staff lets him down EVERY TIME. Scored 30 for a month last year and lost alllll those games. You finally play “ complementary” football and the staff pisses down there leg. THEY HAVE TO GO

[@GRose31399]

I couldn’t agree more with Adam today. He’s spot on about the stupid refs not calling anything for fields. I kept wondering why the fk the refs weren’t throwing any flags when he was sliding. I even started to doubt my knowledge of the slide rules. And omg Tyler Scott! What are you doing?! Idk man I have faith in poles but claypool 👎 velus Jones 👎dominique Robinson 👎Tyler Scott👎I want to look forward to next year so bad but I don’t believe they’ll fire eberflus. I agree Adam, flus needs to back up his player in the media!

[@danny51577]

I get it. But the coaching staff on both sides changed their entire play calling and game approach for the final 4 mins and lost us another game. Players didn't execute on opportunities. But there never should've been a thought of changing the game plan. But they did. They went away from everything that worked ALL GAME LONG! As they have done this multiple times in multiple losses. Over and over.

[@gualbertogarcia305]

CHAMPIONS MAKE HIGH PRESSURE CLUTCH PLAYS, “NO EXCUSES”.

[@justinrakestraw4142]

Champions have championship level coaching that put them in a position to be champions! This coaching staff is a joke!

[@justamaninTN]

The defensive front is just awful this season. No consistent pressure. They played better in this game, but still. That once again needs to be a focus in the draft and free agency.

[@mobeerman9487]

Braggs owns the new gadget called the QB Excuse Maker 3000. Packed with new excuses. 🤣

[@terrencejones2928]

I’m tired of winning 3/4 of a game🤣🤣🤣

[@danny51577]

Consistwncy from the qb? Then instead of remaining consistent with their playcalling and gameplan, they were inconsistent in the last 4 min ONCE AGAIN. wheres the consustency from the coaching staff? Horrible

[@11BB11.]

Jaylon Johnson should of had that pick 6 in the 2nd quarter

[@alterego7287]

So many issues and I am not going to beat the same ones over and over. No one is talking about Jaylons dropped pick 6 that was a 14 pt turn around. He missed several tackles and missed another INT in the 2nd half. Top 5 paid players make those plays and thats why they get paid. Jaylon just proved he is not elite, very good but not a game changer with his 3 INTs over 3 seasons.

[@kennethwilliams2951]

Getzy should script 60 plays bcz the last 2 years the first 15 plays is the only time the offense looks like it knows what it’s doing!

[@sherrysoch7724]

He is good not greatest. Justin Fields has accounted for 4327 combined passing, rushing, and receiving yards in his last 17 games in his career. TD 11 in year. 35 TD Is total since he started in 2021.

[@ajmall123]

Saying Flus is middle of the road is mind boggling. He is the one of the worst if not the worse Coach in the NFL

[@KL-qx4ok]

Told y’all when Justin is in it seems like the defense just doesn’t play as good.. it’s almost like the tahr it fit granite that fields will find a way to ball out or make a big time play.. when the rookie was in.. mentally they all were geared up and locked in…it’s a mental thing at this point,..they need to play like the game is on them.. not on Justin…stop relying on Justin’s talent legs, explosiveness.. and take ownership of your position! Tired of these mental slip ups all the time.

[@darkcity2004]

Jaylon dropping two ints including a clear PICK 6 is a problem

[@christiansolid1702]

He dropped one… that second one was a stretch

[@loulachat9217]

22:31 $50.00 Fields is electrifying and this loss IS NOT his fault! Playing NOT TO LOSE is NO WAY to win…PERIOD! Poles should grab Harbaugh and bye bye to Eberlose & Getsnone enough is enough - ps - how do I pay for this comment, it’s my first time pss - Braggs has been spot on regarding the BS play calling

[@michaelwhite9018]

Bragg Literally Speaking how I feel💯

[@Chicago15BG]

Why don’t you guys tell Nick Moreano to ask Flus the question of coaches being held accountable also

[@samuelmartin117]

1:41:15 who are they supposed to beat?

[@DNolan-qy9pf]

The coaching staff sucks. They dont want Fields because they need an excuse to draft a new QB and by themselves more time. It doesn't matter who's at QB they suck and will continue until their fired. Get these clowns out of here ASAP.

[@electric8668]

And who's in charge of the defense snd calling plays? Matt Eberflus

[@jeffreystebel]

Stay positive guys. You’re being emotional. Bears looked really good. More things are happening. The development is happening. I think we’ll see some wins the last 6 games.

[@rogermoore5764]

We should have seen a win today if the coaching staff had any backbone, but once again they show us that they're the worst coaching staff in the nfl and they do have the record to prove it! And emotional damn right that was a tough loss!!! And to lose it by bad coaching (again) just sucks as for me I'm tired of this!!!

[@tellthetruthtuesday]

It's better to overthrow the receiver instead of underthrow. Honestly Scott slowed down too early on one of those

[@gund2281]

Fire Getsy. Fire Flus. Fields is H-I-M!!! That TD toss to Moore was a SPECAL freaking throw. That was the same type of crap that Rodgers used to do to us all the freaking time.

[@rickylmoe4018]

The Bears played like the Lions today

[@cmd_bantha_fodder4616]

Goff threw 3 picks and won the game. Fields played well but couldn't close. Coaching and play calling is abysmal but its been 3 years of not closing out games. No more excuses for this entire organization. Stop spending your money.

[@chrisdavis1945]

Tank year!

[@DuggyDuce]

FRANCHISE FIELDS IS MY QB1🐻⬇️

[@danielpomeroy]

Playing too conservative in the nfl doesn't win games. The coaches have to trust the players

[@KevoUptownChicago]

Dude this game is on the staff you can pick a play here and a play there and place blame on individual players but the bottomline is this staff as a 3-7 team played not to lose instead of playing for 1 first down to win the game..

[@alexamerling79]

Eberlose needs to go.

[@CrossMyHeart_clothing]

That’s a good one 😂 Can’t believe never heard that before.

[@carloscoriano3019]

Friends dont fire friends

[@RonnieMcDee]

Defense crumbled???? Nah fam. 3 takeaways with 0 points off them.

[@shortdaddy70]

You can't play prevent defense for 4 minutes

[@danny51577]

Hoge - we all get that 56 mins looked good. But 56 mins doesn't win the game. Obviously. And the fact that this coaching staff has shit the bed over and over in the last 5 mins of games, is PRECISELY the reason they need to go

[@88jaspersimmons]

I am low-key happy the Bears lost. I am in it for the draft pick.

[@sheffrudytke1086]

No. You have to learn how to win

[@rlee33498]

Either keep the coaches and get a new quarterback or keep the quarterback and get some new coaches one or the other. But we can't bring the same cast back next year

[@dougiefresh195]

JJ makes that pick 6 that would’ve been the clincher!

[@scottlarock7924]

Shall we just rename all of our Chicago teams the Chicago Cusps?

[@CrossMyHeart_clothing]

Chicago Tanks

[@UR_Right24]

The Chicago Ass Clowns

[@beauhopson8581]

It’s without a doubt coaching! You can’t have a 12 pt lead with 3 min left and blow it! Fields can’t catch the ball too! There is no reason that play to Scott isn’t dialed up for Mooney or Moore! And finally, how do you not keep a back in or keep a tight end there to chip the best defensive player on the D? Coaching malpractice at its best! Bozo and Cookie the clown must go!

[@Greg_211]

Why do the talking heads in the Chicago media feel the need to preface their statements with "Fields wasn't perfect, but..." ? It' almost as if they want us to believe there's a QB on the planet that's capable of playing a perfect game at the NFL level! Has to be one of the dumbest comments ever made. And for the record the deep ball to Tyler Scott was far from a Hail Mary lol! It was a perfectly placed deep ball gone for naught because a pro wideout couldn't make the same catch that I watch college receivers make every Saturday!!!

[@teemo4424]

Hoge, stop sticking up for the coaches. Calling certain plays in situations comes on the coach. Pathetic calls. Why is D Mo excelling this year? This is really bad!!! In my 35 years of being a Bears fan, I’ve come to a point where I don’t want to root for a team like this and this bum of a coach is the worst I have ever seen

[@teemo4424]

JJ, imo is gone at end of season. He shouldn’t and doesn’t want to play for a coach like this who would?

[@brianpeterson1675]

Just say no to Jim Harbaugh! Avoid him like the plague!

[@tonytran9787]

As a lions fan, I like to go to our opponents podcast just to see their reaction after we beat them lol

[@gratnezz76]

Chill you guys just started winning this year lol

[@Lobanium]

A new experience for you after decades of being the punching bag of the NFCN.

[@MJGviii]

I can tell by your comment you sit to pee.

[@danielpomeroy]

Lions fan here. S.O.L. (same old lions ) transferred title to the bears (S.O.B.) same old bears. LoL.

[@nathantibbs4602]

Fields EXCELS….. Little strong of a characterization

[@AMBNumbr1StunaYT]

Love that also fumble to end the game not his fault. Pocket pressence not his fault. Lol i agree he not 100% to blame. I would say 50/50. But garantee yall would been giveing him 100% of the win if he won but 0% of blame for a loss lol? Common man

[@justinrakestraw4142]

That fumble was a result of Wright getting speed rushed in an obvious passing situation. Justin is 1% at fault this game! Tyler Scott stopped running his route or that would be another 70 plus yards. Fields missed very few open looks.

[@calwere]

16/23 for 169 is a great game? Balled out? You guys have pretty low standards for "balling out"

[@justinrakestraw4142]

Aside from Carolina's trade Poles has been terrible! Walker has been a terrible bust, Edmonds has been a giant bust and we traded the best linebacker in the league to sign him, Nate Davis has been injured most of the season, CLAYPOOL should be enough to get him fired, Velus Jones is trash,Patrick is garbage! I can only name 2 good signings Edmonds has been decent and Wright has been decent, Sweat is good but is by himself and cost them a second round pick.

[@sheffrudytke1086]

So you call edmunds a bust and a decent signing. 😂

[@marcoarreola9058]

They can keep Fields, draft a rookie and see if Fields can beat him out. If he plays great, you trade him when his value is high.

[@sherrysoch7724]

Jim harbaugh

[@KeKuHauPiOx]

Bears coaching is awful. Blow it up next year

[@GottaLookInwardToSeeOutward]

bears are the new lions lol

[@quentinberkley9602]

We are 3-8 worst record in the NFL

[@CpuWaiy]

Panthers?

[@wazeer23]

Yo

[@Lobanium]

This was the best outcome. Team has talent, Justin played well. But we get the loss so more likely Flus gets fired and we get a better draft pick.

[@Duddudude]

Come on guys, love the show but be honest, this is a coaching problem, time to move on!!!

[@aaronblevins9007]

Quit yelling dude and no the players play these coaches are not the problem Your issue is you don't know

[@AMBNumbr1StunaYT]

R yall serious 1 game improves feilds trade value? Lmfao. Bears logic. Feilds chokes in big moments end of games. Improves value. Is a running qb 1st. Improves value. Overthrows balls improves value. Lol

[@AMBNumbr1StunaYT]

Its because this aint first game feilds has choked. Showing same flaws all year. But ignore that

[@AMBNumbr1StunaYT]

Nobody saying he played horrible. He played same was he always does. Mediocre at best. To say he played great is just as idiotic as saying he was bad

[@CrossMyHeart_clothing]

So true. I don’t think even once in 3 years he’s scored a game winning TD. I’m not counting the game winning FG against the Texans last year 😂

[@AMBNumbr1StunaYT]

Imo this always the issue in chicago. Yall draft qb in 1st round he the next big thing. Franchise qb. Was same with turbisky all this hype. Then when qb suck its always coaching. Again not saying coaching is great but to act like its not 50% coaching 50% wildcat qb is crazy. Can judge coaching on poor record but not feilds with same record? Coaches only as good as their qb. Prime example lefleur looked like coach of year with rodgers n now looks like a bum with love. So a poor qb can hamstring a coach. To say otherwise is idiotic. Jets another prime example. U think that coach would look 100x better with rodgers then wilson? Answer is yes. Another example. Cardnials has looked piss poor. Bad coaches? Murry comes back look like diffrent team. So crucifying coach cuz he stuck with mediocre qb n wonder why yall suck so long? Never give a coach actually time to build a team. Yall honestly think a rebuild happens in 1 year? Take justin out of equation. This team is ass. Even some of their highest paid players imo are not that great. Imo only person i would take off this team is moore. Minus him and maybe jaylon for cheap if i was GM which im not but if i was wouldnt take anyone else off this team. Long story short the team is bad qb is bad and expecting miracles from coaches is idiotic

[@djfriedice7754]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many years of rebuilding? WHAT???? Don't blame the coaching staff. Bears have no talent. Defense is too busy trying to strip the ball instead of actually tackling someone. This is what happens when you have the McCaskeys as owners. George Halas never should have left this team to his daughter. He should have sold it to someone that actually loves football.

[@kennethwilliams2951]

How come Fields didn’t audible out of those to up the middle handoffs to Herbert?????

[@DRock80]

Middle of the road means average. He has a below average record. Can’t win in the division or at home! Flus sucks. Time to go

[@OOTheBlueAir]

nice deflection on the winning drive - superchat conversion rate. , on jf being the worst in nfl last 2 years. I did not expect anything els from you guys.

[@georgecostanza9213]

If flus is gone fields is gone 3 coaches in 5 years and another OC. Yikes just never ends wish they would sell the team George is a loser.

[@markgaz4747]

This Chicago Bears coaching staff is garbage. Matt Eberflus is horrible & not a leader of men. This coaching staff plays to not lose, instead of playing to win. Anyone who thinks this coaching staff is anything but horrible, doesn't know what they're talking about.

[@mirrorblue100]

On their last drive while leading - the Bears ran right into the heart of the defense. Twice. Third down was a low percentage pass play. Jesus Christ on a bike - who is calling these plays?? All they needed was a first down. All they needed was to eat up some clock. What happened to Fields rolling out with a throw/run option? This loss - this historic loss - is all on Eberflus and he needs to be fired. While you're at it - sell the team to someone who gives a damn.

[@MichaelMcFarland-n7f]

Please fire Getsy he calls all runs STUPID. This whole coaching staff sucks.

[@AkamatsuCreative]

Carm adds no insight or intelligent analysis to these discussions. Jeez.

[@UR_Right24]

His viewpoint is always the viewpoint coming from Halas Hall, so he's almost always the devil's advocate position from what Hoge and Braggs are saying.

[@AkamatsuCreative]

Yeah, not so much his opinions, (putting it politely) it just seems like he doesn't at all fit this kind of role, and yet here he is, almost every episode taking up microphone time. Otherwise, I like CHGO.@@UR_Right24

[@Rmat7]

Everyone with a brain knows the coaching staff should go and the defense still needs work, but it embarrassing that people act like fields played lights out. Since being drafted he literally has the worst conversation rate in the NFL on game winning drive opportunities. Hes proven time and time again he will not be a QB that will win you games, and the bears are not a good enough franchise to win despite a QB. They couldn't do it 20 years ago with one do the best rosters in franchise history, they will not do it now. They need a franchise QB that's gonna help them compete, that's not him

[@williamjoyce7168]

170 Yards throwing is not excelling. JF is Below average.

[@armtv]

He ran a 100 🤔

[@ryanthompson1770]

​@armtv not sustainable. Guy gets hurt a lot being the bellcow running back and the QB. I'm sure every team in this league will take 18 opportunities to hit your QB with a hurt thumb

[@williamjoyce7168]

@@armtv OK he’s running back.

[@williamjoyce7168]

@@armtv are running back basically didn’t play. He would’ve got some probably close to 90.