POSTGAME: Phoenix Suns EMBARRASSED By Jokic, Denver Nuggets In ANOTHER Unacceptable Loss

[@vjekoslavprpic496]

Suns are 0-3 in Lindsey post era

[@salohcinlaen990]

They know the vibes 😓

[@Sol_oz]

Lindsey was the heart of this podcast.

[@rodneymiller2767]

That Lindsey shit hurt

[@DJ_-]

​@@Sol_ozshe was the heart of the Suns franchise to

[@JC-nd5ye]

They weren't that great with her either lmao

[@kingnacho69]

It’s not a big 3, give it up Gerald

[@nitsujneal]

We ready to admit that Frank Vogel was scapegoated or nah?

[@DJ_-]

You are right bro

[@swqueen03]

@@nitsujneal That’s debatable… he didn’t “seem” to be relational to the players. The energy was weird between him and the players.

[@dbass131]

I would have brought Larry Brown out of retirement to coach this team because they lack toughness. And Coach Bud wasn't really an upgrade from Vogel who would at least play Bol and tinker with the lineups. This is inexcusable and they traded our young nucleus for an older Durant that is just one guy that can't win a game by himself.

[@MrNashtyone]

​@@dbass131Bud is a terrible coach the same way Vogel was. His offense is spread the floor and shoot low low low percentage 3 pointers. There's no varied nuances to the offense. No pick and roll. No setting Durant and Booker for their majority mid range game that they have. No cutters. It's either 3 pointers or ISO. No easy baskets. No fluidity. No getting a shot early in the shot clock. In short predictable predictable predictable. And if I see another parking lot 3 from Grayson I'm gonna beat the shit out of the coach. Because he's the one telling Grayson that that is a good shot when it is not. We had a bad coach last year with lesser players and this year we have better players but another terrible coach in Bud. It's all coaching. We have the same record this year as last year but Devin Booker is playing worse because Bud's spread and Jack up trash offense isn't setting Devin up for his predominant mid range game He and Durant are having to get their own mid range shots because Bud's spread and shoot 3 offense isn't accommodating them. When we won with Chris Paul cp3 was getting to the elbow and he was setting Devin up to get the same easy shot he didn't have to create for himself. The common denominator is not this team. The common denominator is getting one bad coach and getting another bad coach.

[@ajaay786]

He had to go

[@kdentonjm]

Last season we had a 4th quarter problem, now its a 3rd quarter problem this season, this is just ridiculous, we r not mentally tough nor do we have the focus, effort, drive or passion to win at all

[@Meda01]

So it’s not a talent issue, not a cheap owner issue and not a coach issue. We just are cursed

[@thatsubae]

All Arizona sports teams right now

[@JC-nd5ye]

We can't hit a shot lmao I see every team we face hitting most of their shots and we miss most of ours lol

[@PeterWilson-c3u]

@@JC-nd5ye There's TOO much of a talent gap in between Kevin Durant and Beal/Booker. KD does really well with skilled guys. [Steph/Kyrie]. Beal and Booker have SEVERE limitations and both are unproven!

[@davidjankofsky3228]

Bud does not make mid game adjustments.

[@salcruz9267]

lol could swear I saw this exact comment on bucks twitter 2023

[@terrancestokes7315]

Sorry the lack of size & a caliber starting center will be the downfall of the suns. 3 guard lineups WILL NOT WORK man. Nurkic is the worse center in the league, I don’t see what upgrade would be available

Beal and Nurk pack your bags 💀

[@Sunsn7]

Keep alerting us you don't have a grasp of the situation, thanks.

[@IsoAntt]

Beal not the problem

[@imdatdude8224]

NURK AND PLUMMET

[@ayooot5850]

@@IsoAntthe’s has no defense

[@IsoAntt]

@@ayooot5850 team has no defense Beal defense solid at time but aye if jimmy does come to phx and don’t perform people just gone talk bad about him as well

[@kingnacho69]

PHNX Sausage Fest

[@PiimS23]

Bro u thirsty go to a bar. This is SPORTS TALK right here.

[@thetruth7089]

Imagine what Jokic would do to nurkic in the playoffs this teams sucks

[@Young_squeeze]

Jokic been cooking him anyways

[@SomeGuyNamedJustin_]

Ever watch Semi-Pro? We need that lob threat, that excitement from an athletic big! Beal, for an athletic center (plus some assets in). Nirk and some picks for a starting forward. We just need to spread the talent out from the SG role, and get quicker at Center. That's it. Calm down folks.

[@williamshawa80]

You can say whatever analytical crap here on them podcasts buh at the end of the day the ball is in Mat Ishbia’s court so for now we can only watch and see what he does about this whole situation about our team.

[@Sunsn7]

Okay at least talk about getting a guy like *BOBBY PORTIS* who I personally wanted in the Devin Booker draft (thank God we got Book🙏). Coach Bud helped him raise his play in Milwaukee after the Bulls traded him away and he's an excellent supporting cast player around superstars. He was a huge reason the Bucks rallied from 0-2 to backdoor sweep the Suns. He literally intimidated the entire Suns team with his physical play and in-your-face demeanor and overall grit. He even got in Jae's & CP3's head, not to mention Book & DA. He was a true difference maker and has a ring to show for it. A guy like that at PF makes a big difference on this team. Sometimes it does just take one guy to ignite an entire team. He could be that guy. Guarantee Bud would love to have him on the court and inside that locker room. Thoughts? Critiques? GTFOH?

[@vjekoslavprpic496]

Bucks and Suns are above 2nd apron which means, they can trade players between them with same salary(not the case). Portis is 12 mil, Bucks can only recieve player or players(Suns can't send 2 players for 1) under 12 mil, on other hand, Grayson is 15 mil, Bucks can't recieve player over 12 mil, whoever told you trade is possible is wrong

[@swqueen03]

I understand Kevin and Book are “friends” but I’d hate to see KD waste his last years in Phoenix with Beal (they don’t mesh well with him), Nurkic (terrible center and soft), absent-minded Royce O’ Neal, a horrible bench and James Jones just need to go!!

[@haydotzero3372]

Even with KD and Book, they are not any better

[@ojoj5194]

@@haydotzero3372 before kd injury the suns was seed 1 and i really dont believe they would lost so much games if kd was healthy. KD please dont sign new deal with the suns you are 36yo go play somewhere and win. alot team wants you!! hahah suns fans saying beal is all star haha

[@Sunsn7]

I'm so tired of fans putting KD's interests above the team's. Thought they were supposed to be the same but it's obvious to me it's not. KD is literally sponsored by FanDuel lol. He is invested is peddling marijuana to the American public. He is standoff-ish with the media and therefore our local media doesn't fully do their job in covering him. Look, he's a great individual player & scorer. But he's more about the KD brand as opposed to a "do what it takes, all in on my team" kind of player. The Suns culture has suffered since his arrival and that is the bottom line.

[@swqueen03]

@@Sunsn7 Cool, Dallas would LOVE to have him! Suns fans would feel “betrayed” at that point. I can hear it now, “I can’t believe he’s in Dallas, ring chasing.” 😂

[@OoohhForSure]

@@swqueen03if we get a good haul for KD? Absolutely.

[@haydotzero3372]

This Gerth guy never seems to want to accept defeat. James Jones has been a terrible gm dude. I don’t understand why you want to hold on to him as a gm. What makes Booker and Durant special to not trade them?? Keep believing on a delusional squad until they fully reveal themselves completely.

[@nicholasrabadi9149]

The inevitable is trading KD back to OKC for Dort, I-Joe, Dieng, Mitchell and two 1sts

[@dbass131]

This is insanity.... doing the same things and hoping for different results. This has been the same crap since 2022. When we could have traded Jae Crowder and Deandre Ayton for Miles Turner and Buddy Hield, we missed out. Giving away most of our nucleus for an older Kevin Durant was a big mistake that has hurt the team. Yes, he's a great player, but he can't win by games by himself. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked, and it's time to get back some draft assets ASAP. At this point, blow it up and trade Durant and Royce, which will eventually make Beal want to leave. If Book doesn't like the decisions made, trade him for another star or two decent players and two draft picks. See what you have in the young guys remaining such as Dunn, Oso, Bol, Okogie, Allen, Ty Ty and etc...At least these guys remaining will play with some heart and pride unlike the latter and you can save money for future free agents and draft picks. It's so ridiculous that we've gotten to this point.

[@HardcoreGamer101508]

Gerald, you absolutely have to fire James Jones, and I would’ve expected deeper analysis from this group of guys beyond “everything’s wrong.” No, what’s wrong is that James Jones is obsessed with (undersized) guards and nothing else since the beginning of time. Tyus is a traffic cone on defense…

[@vjekoslavprpic496]

it was Ishbia's idea to bring KD and Beal

[@HardcoreGamer101508]

@ It wasn’t Ishbia’s idea to sign and trade for a bunch of undersized guards

[@SamoGyorek]

2 superstars and depth is the recipe for succes...not "big 3!

[@KGold53]

As a Nuggets fan who listens to Adam Mares and DNVR guys all the time, I thought I’d listen to this and compare. WOW, what a difference! No analysis of player by player performance in the game! The three talkers here are just not adding knowledge or value to Suns fans. Just a lot of griping. Must be tough being a Suns fan right now, but to listen to this?! No thanks! 😂😁

[@trimethicon2719]

Beal has a no trade clause. Beal has a no trade clause! Guess what, if you're trying to move him why would he want to be here?

[@Sting283]

Why are we coddling Booker?

[@jalilwatson]

The team sucks. They're not athletic enough, no rim runner, there's not one player that can consistently put pressure on the rim, no defensive identity, no offensive identity.This is a straight show.

[@Sunsn7]

Okay I was listening until the 29 min. mark where Gerald said "you are not going to trade KD unless he comes to you and asks for a trade" after that, came to leave this comment before tuning out. Guy on the right, I can tell he wants to trade KD but isn't brave enough to stand behind this particular conviction..and I understand to a point, right.. but your job isn't to qualify your remarks if it goes against the grain, your job is to offer your opinion and viewpoint whether it ruffles feathers or not. NOBODY on this current team should be untouchable. KD is a hired gun, an NBA mercenary with a track record of frontrunning. If it makes sense to trade KD and can recop some draft capital and some young, HUNGRY DOGS then hell yes, you not only need to explore doing so, it's a RESPONSIBILITY to do so. Don't give your opinions from a selfish perspective of "what would this place be like without the attention so-and-so brings?" it should always be from a standpoint of professional integrity. I'm disappointed..but changed my mind, I'm going to listen further and either add to this comment later or go with my first instinct. Anyway we, THE VALLEY OF THE SUNS are relying on guys like yourselves to be the influential mouthpieces & personalities to give a podium to the voice of the fans, being fans yourselves. Overall a good job guys.. don't know if you guys do a call in segment for fans but would love to call in after a game just to share some thoughts and maybe ask a tough question or two. Peace guys! ✌️

[@JasonQuinn-qq4om]

Now we know the problem was not the coach. It’s the players. Trade Durant and Booker. Get the most draft picks and young players. Time to rebuild.

[@boxerboy602]

Butler ain't helping this team!

[@Tdot6]

KD teams other than his time with the warriors has more often than not folded under pressure. It's time to trade KD and rebuild.

[@Hooch-A-Colada]

Should ve kept Bridges, Cam and draft picks.

[@gabb815]

Everyone is saying blow it up… But here the million dollar question… With the track record, what team wants Kevin Durant?

Chat are we cooked??💀

[@Hoopsguy]

Look at the older teams in the league. They’re all struggling. Warriors, Lakers, Suns… the younger more athletic teams have closed the gap

[@Commenting800]

Lakers have 5 young main rotation guys injured for the entire season, and still have a winning record. Suns have had all their guys mostly

[@Hoopsguy]

@@Commenting800bro who?! They have 2 all stars playing well and still losing. They’re a slow paced team. All the older and/or slower paced teams are struggling

[@Mason-nq6ev]

The suns are just a representation of the current nba

[@mauricejones1644]

This team hasn't been the same since game 5 against Dallas 3 years ago Devin needs to be held more responsible it's his team he's my favorite player but this on him

[@vasniivy]

to preface i’m not hating on gerald, love u gerth but rebuilds only take 10 years when youre a poverty franchise. when you have devin booker and kevin durant to trade you can get promising young players and picks. not saying id do that but let’s not act like if we traded kd to houston for amen thompson tari eason and two of our firsts and two seconds back we’d be awful for more than 2 years. amen book eason dunn ighadaro is not a bad rebuild. this is easily a competitive team. better yet, trade book to houston for amen, eason and ALL your picks back. trade kd to the thunder for wallace, topic, aaron wiggins, ousmane dieng and 4 first round picks. tank in 2026. draft aj dybantsa and bam rebuild done. wallace amen eason and dunn on defense is legit. including 8 firsts(including your own), and a few extra seconds. ishbia hire me.

[@trimethicon2719]

Its not a big 3, its a big 1.5. Book is now injury prone, Beal is injury prone, KD is injury prone. Blow it up, its over, get picks back, get younger, get some heart.

[@javierayala1782]

Look at Bridges thrive with the Knicks. We gave up on them because they had a few hiccups. I’m telling you guys and to the people who don’t want to admit it but Booker is not the superstar. Why can’t we be allowed to say we were wrong and move on?? That’s what this team really needs. He has been here 10 years, his anchor is starting to drag this ship.

[@joseruiz6546]

I stopped watching the games after kd’s first injury and it’s been great mental health!

[@clark0081]

It’s time for everyone to go. No heart no fight no championship even close. Full rebuild. Everyone fro pics

[@thatsubae]

Are you ready for another 10 years of misery?

[@Sunsn7]

​@@thatsubaeit wouldn't be 10 yrs. with Darver gone and the new era of parity with the Suns signifying the death of the NBA superteam era!

[@PeterWilson-c3u]

@@Sunsn7 Cavs lost LeBron and are now the best team in the league. OKC lost KD and are now winning. Miami retired D. Wade and have 2 Finals appearances after he left.

[@chirocket4791]

Same pattern over and over, play close for a half, then get blown out in the third quarter. Always get killed in the third quarter.

[@celtv2500]

Stop this roster wasn’t build to win one aging superstar and board line all stars

[@ojoj5194]

yes, something s goin on. Yall suns fans said i dunno basketball when i said beal must come of the bench or do something with his contract haha well, about now? BEAL is trash for the last 3yrs straight. I've been saying that for a while now. I tried to warn the Suns fans about beal when he had been traded. He isn't a winner and his contract is a death sentence. KD please dont sign new deal with the suns. i believe u still can win somewhere else.

[@ZacharyMiller-zk1zy]

We will give MPJ for Durant

[@joeycarter9020]

A new coach isn't going to win a championship. There's no chemistry, suns administration think it's the coach every year. It's having a new coaching every year, which is the problem, no defense AT ALL. And the suns team have a problem with being behind. There is no one taking the leadership on the team.

[@Mason-nq6ev]

They should have just got a younger point guard when they traded Paul for Beal..they should have just got Tyus then and just left it alone

[@MMABOSSBREAKDOWN]

Can we finally admit the KD trade was bad for this team? Yes KD is our best player and I love watching him. BUT we burned too many assets and crippled the rest of our core and have struggled to build a team around KD. Total mistake and many fans said this at the beginning but now the proof is there

[@westvilleforum]

how do u trade for Beal and Nurk really and want to win

[@llovani9307]

we need to trade Bradley beal

[@ThonThaddeo]

Okay so we can't rebuild because we didn't make the playoffs for a decade. We're not in the playoffs rn. And if we don't make them this year, I fail to see what we're holding onto. Even then, we should be a middling team with the highest payroll in the league? This core is not going anywhere, and holding off the inevitable only makes it take longer.

[@itstoomuchmoney]

Like I said last game, the team is mentally deflated from injuries and trade talks

[@nicholasrabadi9149]

Lu Dort went to Arizona State University

[@__________5737]

Trade everyone, anything else won’t work for a rebuild, and Booker deserves a chance at a ring

[@Mason-nq6ev]

Robert Sarver wasn’t the problem

[@broncosbeat8539]

The new ownership came in cocky, too involved, and problematic. They forced the destruction of an organic team into a gridlocked group of high priced mercenaries. The team has 0 heart, 0 grit, and a lot of "oh well" vibes. Its just a collection of talent. Ishbia is waiving a big flag right now of shit canning good coaches quickly. That will resonate with tenured coaches. The end result of this may be a string if bloated contracts that ishbia continues to force onto the team even post the big 3 and a string of under qualified/ washed coaches getting gigs because nobody wants to deal with him.

[@MMABOSSBREAKDOWN]

Trade KD and Beal. KD for a young two way wing and picks and trade Beal for a young athletic forward or center. We could get under the aprons and offer Tyus more money to stay. We can then have something that resembles the old CP3 version of the suns

[@Hoopsguy]

Agree! The Suns have no effort or heart

[@lvpradagucci5539]

Bol bol not playing is the problem

[@gnomechomsky2524]

Lol

[@JC-nd5ye]

It feels like the 2010s again😂 at this point I'm open to trading Devin Booker to Miami for Butler

[@Mason-nq6ev]

KD Beal Nurk and some other pieces for first round pics and a all star big and all star point guard

[@leonardsarten802]

Common denominator on this team, they do not have the edge, soft minded group that lacks a true leader, player wise!😎✌🏼

[@deandrebrewster4569]

Kd need back go to sf and bolbol at pf

[@ljutko7]

Your biggest mistake is BB. Bs move lol 😂

[@frankiebflat5728]

Damn Shazam! Help!!

[@gorantamburic2000]

you need young roster with Booker to lead. KD is old like Butler. they are stars but washed

[@joshuacosner4326]

Yay, shit again

[@__________5737]

Pay me one million and I will bring all heart. These guys are soft and there is no leadership

[@aleksatepavac005]

Why is this podcast identical to dnvr

[@matthewzachary88]

PHNX and DNVR are both owned by the same company, All City Network. There's also PHLY, DLLS and CHGO as well.

[@aleksatepavac005]

@matthewzachary88 i mean i assumed that was the case, but i dont think it makes sense. To make them all have the same template. Takes away identity from the podcasts. I followed dnvr, but first time realizing there are like 5 identical podcasts lol. Just feels weird

[@Sunsn7]

Pssst. Hey! PSSSST! 🗣️ It's KD!

[@JamesLAC]

Lmao need more Ls man… ticket prices are outrageously high

[@celtv2500]

Trade KD n Beal it’s over give up

[@damonrossi1489]

Let Book and Durant go. This is professional sports. No one is safe

[@douglasgriffin2729]

I agree , I think the biggest problem with this team is booker he is not as good as people try too make to be, no defense,can not shoot the consistently 3ball, consume too much time hunting for his shot,he is not close to a 50mil/yr player and neither is beal and if kd wants to go and he should then so be it not going to win with Booker being the top dog

[@westvilleforum]

is it an American thing replacing women with men and transwomen

[@sabo3174]

Play and simple the suns are curse lmao cuz there just no way you are that bad with a big 3

[@trimethicon2719]

Gerald is Mr Do Nothing. Mr Wait and Do Nothing. He never has solutions, suggestions, just total milk toast, as plain as vanilla. I'd rather watch paint dry on a humid day then listen to his boring takes.

[@amzobykane153]

All we need couples of trades and will be ok 👍 wejust not That good full rosters first round good trades maybe championship

[@trimethicon2719]

Book is no longer an untouchable, he has under achieved, we have no title, he has no MVPs or scoring titles. He needs to be moved as well. This is not 1-2 players away, they need a total overhaul, and that includes shipping Booker.