My entire Cree empire is BLURSED

[@drdumpenstein4868]

"I need alliances, they are very good as the Cree." (Meets Gilgamesh, refuses to declare instant friendship and alliance with the only civ in the game that friendship is guaranteed) 😂😂😂

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Now I'll invite you to notice, that despite the fact that for two episodes I have actually said nothing about First Nations/Native American Experiences you will see the comment section contained quite a few reactionary and confrontational messages. I did this deliberately in part to give anyone who might be enraged an opportunity to expose themselves as being irrational (for reacting to something that hasn't happened yet) In the next episode we will be talking about Argent Kvasnikoff who is a Native American person from Alaska. And every episode beyond that we will talked about a new person each time.

[@alexleatherwood8787]

Dope

[@lukasbrian8368]

I think you should do this with every civ you play, just mention some history about each civ.

[@SmokeOne221]

Well played sir👍

[@JacksonOwex]

@@lukasbrian8368 Some of them we know pretty well, like England! England has pretty large influence on many, many of the rest of the world's country's histories which we learn about, though likely twisted to make them look bad or worse than they were really were!

[@rsm_0910]

very cool!

[@RealSkoolmaster]

me: A thirty five year old man with degrees in southeast native american history and archaeology Potato: "Peepeekisis" Also me: *snorts in laughter*

[@ashvinvaidyanathan7239]

Proof they give out degrees to anyone in America

[@perkaare7454]

I agrre

[@dadikkedude]

You don't think the devs knew that putting in that name haha

[@michaelbeale559]

Pretty cool degrees, what do you do for a living?!

[@RealSkoolmaster]

@@michaelbeale559 well, not long after getting out into the field in archaeology my back went out, so now I work for the state running two different museums. Sad turn of events, because archaeology is booming right now.

[@SmokeOne221]

I'm 40 yrs old and giggle everytime he says peepeekisis.

[@dancassidy449]

40 also, came to the comments to giggle about the same thing ✊

[@christophermurphree2315]

55% of comments “Really cool that Potato cares about indigenous stories” 55% of comments “Peepee Kiss Kiss” My math is not wrong, there is just a comical existence of overlap.

[@tangodospassos]

With those upload times the Venn diagramm with insomniacs and european early viewers is looking more and more like a circle

[@thegrossmeyer]

Two things: the culture pivot sounds very great, I'm excited to see how it develops. Second, I absolutely adore that you are doing the "story time" history lesson stuff highlighting Native American Experiences. You should start weaving in history into every Civ you play.

[@x1PMac1x]

When my parents found out I was involved with Peepeekisis, they said I was gay. But when the Cree do it, it's just a cultural thing. Double standards much?

[@shayllow8833]

The Cree invented gays confirmed.

[@massiverat4284]

I grew up in Regina, Saskatchewan, which is right in the middle of historic Cree territory. Every assembly, and later every announcement, was started with acknowledging that we were on Cree territory and learning indigenous customs and cultures was built into the curriculum. I ended up learning an almost excessive amount about the First Nations in Saskatchewan, so it will be interesting how someone from an entirely different continent approaches such a topic.

[@jarljonah4577]

Agreed, I feel a lot of Europeans can’t grasp the size and diversity of Canada and America.

[@masondick2100]

Sweet! I'm from the exact same place! Learned all about the Cree when I was young, then found out I'm part Ojibwa from west Ontario. It is amazing how diverse the culture is!

[@Leyrann]

@@BocaoZ Here's the thing. The people who live in those areas these days were born there. As were their parents, their grandparents and indeed anyone they've ever known. Yes, they descend from invaders, but their life there is all they've ever known nonetheless. It's not possible to change history, no matter how amazing that would be, the best we (as humanity) can do is live with the past wrongs and try to make the best of it, because we CAN change the present and thereby the future. And I won't claim to be an expert on the topic of native Americans - mostly because I am most assuredly not, as a European who had rather spotty history education in the first place - but I do know that there are indeed many issues that still need to be addressed. I was absolutely floored when I learned a few months ago that nearly half of... I think it was the Navajo nation, is illiterate even today. Right in the middle of what is often seen as the most advanced country in the world, a group that is so completely forgotten by everyone that they do not even have the bare essentials of what we'd call a comfortable, modern life.

[@JakeSezz]

@@Leyrann What really makes it a tragedy is that once the US gov’t realized they couldn’t eradicate natives via warfare, they began focusing on the culture aspects. Removing tribal identity, including language, with the established boarding schools on reservations being the weapon for that war. And it was quite successful, as the Navajo know all too well.

[@Zaimejs]

On Wikipedia I was just reading about how the Cree had a new chief if they went to war. This would be a cool feature for a civ. At peace, you have one set of benefits based on your leader, and if you go to war, then you have new benefits based on the war-time leader. OKIMAHKAN!

[@jeaholland]

This would be really cool methinks.

[@PhantomNull13]

It hurts to see you talk about making friends with Scotland, but when you meet Gilgabro, you don't immeidately ask for friendship. He'll always accept, and he makes the best military alliance partner in the game!

[@willvondoussa2717]

I know I just watched that part and ran here to see if other people were as sad as me

[@BirgerJarl1621]

Same

[@niallreid7664]

Do you guys play with heroes enabled? I always do so Gilgamesh just has his hero bonus on for me. I wish he could have both or choose or whatever.

[@PhantomNull13]

@@niallreid7664 I usually do, but even then, he's a free, no effort alliance, and I've never seen him have any problem joining in a war when I'm attacked. It just means that I can give him a different alliance type instead of Military.

[@marshallscot]

A late game technology to expand the size of islands would be really neat.

[@dinnerpartyempire]

it's (kinda) seasteads

[@TheAlaskaninja]

Just a tip for the city overlap lens. If you click the range option, it shows the range from your mouse instead of the overlay over the whole map. Really useful in combination with the pin mod, you can still shift A while in the mouse range overlap lens. Also excited to hear about more native issues, I'm an Alaskan Native of the Tlingit tribe and it's always interesting to hear other native experiences!

[@Fanouriou]

This way of thinking is so educational. Seeing what a victory condition could be. And planning and pivoting that victory condition. I'm still at the I'm building some buildings and making a civ and sometimes I win. stage of playing.

[@logandaley1544]

I’m the same way. I’m torn between trying to be efficient to win and just playi g Sim City.

[@chickysticky5176]

I saw that sneaky Stormlight reference there Mr. Editor

[@yaziyo]

Super interested to see how the Native American stories are weaved into the upcoming episodes. I'd actually love to see it in future series too as all of the civs in the game represent a people with rich histories, stories and cultures. For instance, just in your game you are playing against the Japanese, Dutch, Zulus, Sumerians (Iraqi), Scottish, Persians and Egyptians. Had you been playing any of those civs, I guarantee you'd have at least a handful of folks in your 300k subscribers who identify as part of that nation and can share with you stories, experiences and histories of being part of that group. It might be overkill to do it for every game, but I think it's a super interesting angle for you to take. Thanks for doing this and keen to see how it goes in the upcomming episodes.

[@ryanjones_rheios]

If you want to see some American native people's tribal structures getting real jacked with to conform to American sensibilities you can check out the Southern Paiute (Nuwuvi). They have federally recognized tribes but historically they didn't really ascribe to that structure, and then when they were put on reservations they were lumped together with the Ute(Nuche ) who, at that moment in history, they were still at war with. And they had some pretty long running bad blood (including the kidnapping and selling of Nuwuvi children by the Nuche to the Europeans as slaves iirc). They eventually made peace and I think a Nuche originated group even folded into the ~7 Federally recognized Paiute-Ute tribes in the South West, but they've had it rough. (That's not to demonize the Nuche or disregard how rough they had it, either.) I'm not enough American Indian/Native American/First People to count - Government or Tribal recognition wise, and what little relation I have is all back east and from cultures I never learned about first hand or engaged with (my great-great-grandfather was already long dead by then), so I'm sure I did a terrible job of summing that up, but I fell down a Wikipedia hole on the subject recently and was struck by how fucked up the reservation handling was and even the expectation of their conforming to our standards of tribes vs the like 30 some odd bands they'd had once in the past was disrespectful.

[@abelgonzalez158]

All this amd more, go further down the rabbit hole and see how depressing it gets and realize there are those struggling to survive rez life while human traffickers run absolutely rampant on tribal land

[@MobyShtick]

It's always a little funny to me when everyone is always trying to use 3+ names to refer to Indians from America, when if you ask the actual people they are referring to they mostly just call themselves "Indian"

[@ryanjones_rheios]

@@MobyShtick Yeah, not knowing any myself its balance between avoiding offending people, but more often just trying not to catch the "er, but actually, so-and-so said they don't like that" and having it turn into an inane argument. Please see Potato's next video's section on performative actions.

[@simaogomes8077]

am i the only one that wanted to see potato settle on the incense tile, in order to make a canal that connected the lake to both oceans?

[@Mathmachine]

I will be disappointed if the next video isn't titled something like "this entire game is blursed"

[@30Minparking]

Really enjoy the conversation you are having with people that are native to the Americas and appreciate hearing more about their history and culture

[@Rosencreutzzz]

I (perhaps unsurprisingly) think that talking about a culture and its context is a really good angle to bring into a series. Good job.

[@haydenbsiegel]

I love the Cree. One of my favorites to play! Also a heads up to Nintendo Switch players there is a bug with the DLC bundles for CIV IV. If you buy them and then uninstall+delete all the save data then you will not be able to download the DLC bundles from the Nintendo eShop and can only re-download each individual Civ DLC which means you will lose the DLC game modes like Gathering Storm etc. I have an open ticket with Nintendo which they are working on and with 2K but 2K keeps trying to close it without doing anything while Nintendo has reached out to troubleshoot. Great video Potato and once they fix my DLC issue so I can play with the Barbarian clans mode I will most definitely have to do another Cree game. They are almost as much fun as the Iroquoi were in CIV V.

[@cochemoche]

That's good to know! I started on the Switch, I have over 2000 hours on it! Then I switched (no pun intended) to my laptop for the good good mods. Also, I assume you mean CIV VI, right?

[@haydenbsiegel]

@@cochemoche Yeah Civ VI. I'll reply with updates on my tickets when I get them.

[@Hippida]

I do like how you twist and knot your brain, just to give your self a challenge. And such a wonderful way to give us just a wee bit of insight into that strange brain of yours. I'm one of the top 5 craziest mofos I ever known , so take that as a compliment good sir

[@jordanminnick4386]

Super invested in this tourism pivot. I love that by the nature of you having to play catch-up so hard, you're basically having to pull out ALL the tourism stops. I so often see only 1 or 2 tourism tools utilized, so it's cool to see you plan for more

[@AndyBestHP]

Potato: I really want to give the Cree civ its due, and take the opportunity to retell some personal stories from indigenous tribes. Also Potato: We're using the meme map, wahhey. Seriously, tho, great series and important topic we can all learn from. Loving it.

[@mcmigs1725]

You’d think that pin mod would add a feature where the national park pin automatically adds all four pins.

[@Hotarg]

36:35 Bridge Four!

[@michaeleconomou4231]

Civ 6 is a game that has so many diverse civilisations that I know nothing about. Looking forward to learning something about our history!

[@thewonderdoc2999]

Potato: meets Gilgabro, doesnt declare friendship Me: If you die now thats your own damn fault

[@EscapeReels]

Tried a new strategy using Cree. I started selling gold for GDP from my first encounter with the AI and continued throughout the game. I'm now at turn 80(playing on quick speed), I'm making 600+ GDP and all the AI is broke. I no longer need to sell gold, I'm bankrupting them with selling diplo and lux. I got Reyna on a district buying tour throughout my empire. Big Ben earned me 14K.

[@Graspiloot]

Love the Cree/First Nation background! Would love to see more of that in the future.

[@mikavituhandle]

that "continent" is so scuffed, i love it.

[@EruditeGayming]

Live for the Brando Sando reference.

[@--Anurag--]

22:22 Does anyone know how the city Paskwaw-Askihk was settled 3 tiles away from the other city. I always though it has to be 4 tiles away. Or have I been unaware?

[@MakeyJu]

if they are different islands or continents separated by water you only need 2 water tiles between cities

[@cochemoche]

If there's water (ocean, coast, or lake) between one city center and another potential city center, the distance is shortened. I think he mentioned this last video when he placed those pins.

[@--Anurag--]

@@MakeyJu After playing the game for so long, yet learnt something new! Thanks for the info.

[@--Anurag--]

@@cochemoche Ah I missed that. Thanks.

[@MakeyJu]

@@--Anurag-- no problem! I don't play on water maps too often so I forget myself from time to time :)

[@Donkpuss]

im actually from ahtahkakoop and its pronounced like attack-a-coop. love the vids btw

[@Donkpuss]

also i cant help pronunciation of the other cities lol (in case you were wondering)

[@LadyLynxes]

As someone who very recently started on Deity, I think this highlights that sometimes you just gotta let those giga value plays go. Waiting for a mass expansion for Ancestral Hall + Fuedalism is dope as hell, but sometimes you gotta get up and go.

[@christopherprevost763]

I like this educational concept of civ and cultural history! For your next Persia playthrough: listen to Hardcore History: King of Kings. The first couple episodes cover Cyrus the Great. TBH, I learned more about Medieval Europe from AOE2 than from school. Video games can give you some great application for the concepts of world history.

[@danwatt5789]

idk how you're managing to keep this going. Well done sir.

[@JacksonOwex]

LOTS and LOTS of hours of playing the game and having a purpose for this series other than just playing the game help out quite a bit I would assume!

[@size15shoeswinkwink]

Cree Rock Bands! I'd buy those albums.

[@goober4502]

I love when Cree is in a game because their music is just the best, tied with Colombia. And Zulu.

[@theplasmawolf]

Game: Medieval Era ends in 8 turns. Potato: This era is over in one turn :)

[@fusfauxpas]

I wasn't aware that the 4-tile barrier between city centers doesn't seem to apply for islands

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

its 3 tiles, and 4 steps. important distinction.

[@cooperglick4865]

I'm glad you're promoting indegonus peoples voices we need more of this

[@jbrock98]

Domination would’ve 100% been a strat for a renaissance era musket men push. The Plains Cree loved guns!

[@JacksonOwex]

18:34 Didn't Sweden start to build the Mausoleum in HIS OWN city that, they took from him, in his sort of test game for this series, or one of them(I think there have been a few of them now)! Maybe it was a different wonder?

[@joshuachiang6766]

Just because the AI doesn’t tend to do something doesn’t mean they never.

[@aaronsirkman8375]

It was Kilwa.

[@Klmp13]

It's so chaotic that I can barely understand WAT I'm watching! 🥁

[@ganymedemlem6119]

Love in a game when I'm Sumaria or the Cree and find the other of that pair. Every time I make that alliance as fast as possible.

[@freyamiles3718]

The stories may have more time during the churn where (no offense) it's mostly whatever crap you can think of at the time

[@phasmata3813]

Pivoooooot. PIVOT!

[@cringe6559]

Amundson-Scott City???

[@mjstecyk]

could be pog!

[@jeffreyhornblower6515]

11:54 genuinely mad me giggle like a child

[@thomashamard5916]

You could go for a biosphere play wind wind farms on all that coastline

[@shreddie42]

Which step is the most important, always the next potato

[@125discipline2]

the cree empire survived the barbarian onslaught

[@violeviolaV]

Yeah... Unless you're doing a Rome RP turning barbarians off might be a good idea... The term hasn't been that well liked since colonialism lost its charm

[@taghjenx4]

38:33 very good information

[@domagoj905]

Wait, how TF did you settle 2 cities 2 tiles apart? 22:42

[@notsonutso1995]

You can when the cities are completely separated by water.

[@domagoj905]

@@notsonutso1995 what the heck. I didn't know that.

[@jameshall1300]

If we're avoiding connotations of war and conquest, calling it the Cree Empire doesn't help that along. Maybe call it the Cree nation since you're doing a peaceful game ( as much as civ allows obviously ). Yes, I know the game calls it an Empire, and I'm not trying to be a troll or start any arguments, but it was just something that popped into my head.

[@jeffbonds3850]

great video as always

[@rickysebastian6386]

Cree domination sounds really interesting though

[@disintegration]

Sorry for the noob question, but at 29:54 you say that you need industrial zones for a diplomatic victory -- could you talk a little bit more about that? Currently playing a diplo game and worried now that I don't have enough industrial districts!

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Late game for carbon recapture districts you need industrial zones to generate infinite diplomatic favour.

[@tommaso410]

What is city overlap?

[@SantoLucasST]

What's up with that roap split on the snow? It had a 3 way connection, and now only 2

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

might have changed during a crash or something?

[@SantoLucasST]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey hummmmm, for a moment I thought there was a road upgrade and the workers looked at that and said: "nobody goes this way anyway, let's get home sooner" and the old road ended up covered with snow

[@thecameron3996]

You should play a game where you levy city-state units just to throw them into volcanoes

[@TheSecretMailMan]

I'm convinced that you are addicted to saying "a little bit"

[@Zaimejs]

EXPLORE!

[@HaaraldEigerson1066]

The Cree were kind of a blend between Ferengi and the Phoenicians without boats. They were willing to throw hands to control exercise a monopoly with the fur trade to the British. Any other tribe in the area trying to deal directly with the British were going to get wiped out.

[@marquezzart]

Hi, I hope someone can help me. It's just that when I use the "map planner" I can only see the buildings but not the bonuses when they're together. If you know how can I "activate" that option, let me know.

[@maxt9406]

It's a mod (only available in PC version, not on consoles). The name is "Detailed Map Tacks". He has a list of the used mods in the video description

[@pdraggy]

You don't EVER need to rename Pipikisses cuz it sounds like a meme name already lol

[@SuperJJAlexander]

You can placed cities within 3 tiles of your other cities?

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

So I moved to Scotland fairly recently and like, I forgot that the place I live would appear as a city name

[@aaronlatif52]

Would love to see a persian science victory using communism specifically for the collectivation card that boosts internal trades. I think it would be interesting to see a build centered around super strong internal trades from start to finish. I see it as a magnus build where after 2 settlers (and two traders with persians civ bonus) chopping out immortals for early war and claiming territory to set up your empire and transitioning into settlers into commercial into science. With all the culture from internal trades -> communism, feudalism, and other civics should be piling in early while you build the population and cities with super high science. Only trying to use all the civs bonuses so maybe find a religion to make Pairidaeza better too. Could benefit next to commercial hubs, town centers, and holy site. In that case go super crazy and build a truly tall civilization and have the campus be your third district - feed the world, make holy sites your first district in capital but second in most cities behind commercial hubs. The capital probably doesn't have room for a commercial hub and campus in that case but this super population play with magnus and his 20% food growth might build a truly tall civ that has room for everything eventually.

[@woodysmith2681]

Low man on totem pole = most trusted (since carrying everyone else and the most weight). Perpetual misconception. And shout out for the use of Hot Fuzz.

[@3044Smike]

"There is no real native american nation" - mostly true; when you have the chance check out a couple of articles on the Iroquois Alliance or "peoples of the long house" a nation in everything but name complete with its own flag, code of laws, and constitution which Benjamin Franklin borrowed heavily from when writing the Albany Congressional Constitution (rough draft for the US's constitution, written about a month after the Declaration of Independence)

[@Graspiloot]

He's saying that the're not ONE native American nation, which is to respond to how people often tend to think of them as a monolyth. Rather there were lots of different Tribes, cultures, languages etc. In Civ terms they'd be expressed by different nations.

[@simaogomes8077]

does anyone know from where in ireland potato is?

[@MrMolova]

Today's drinking game: "mission critical"

[@PhilGoodInc42]

Recommend two books: An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, and Our History is the Future by Nick Estes. Two really excellent books by Indigenous People that go into detail about Indigenous experiences in America. Both these books changed my life.

[@isbeb507]

girl 78 was divisible by 3 the whole time

[@gray_wolf1058]

See You did go on the history for a bit.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

But it wasn't the focus

[@gray_wolf1058]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey Buuut it was very interesting and quite important. You know history always has an impact.

[@Kik-d9x]

Why does potato NEVER go for a religious victory?😮

[@coolpants4261]

Um.. your editor said the words. You a tato spren?

[@ToulminRodante]

you can play a mapuche game and talk about their conflict with the chilean state

[@chetnyagupta145]

Hi, I am new to this city. Which mods are you using? can you please give me list of all the mods that are used in this game

[@JacksonOwex]

Even though I feel like this is a bunch of bull: They are in the description above!

[@twilor9515]

It’s not pronounced like peepee-kisses. Pih-PEE-giss-iss.

[@adamsaunders7837]

peepeekisis

[@hannesqvarnstrom6227]

Any particular reason you opted out of declaring friendships with the AI?

[@MrGlennSongz]

lol peepeekisis

[@IjwPetersen]

**how is paskwaw-askihk settled within three tiles of mistahi-siphik**

[@IjwPetersen]

i just learned...never knew that rule, broke my brain

[@nicholaschandler3383]

Wait whats the rule?

[@dawidmikulski8205]

Been wondering the same thing bro

[@ScrimblyBimbly]

the cree and the vatican city famous historical allies

[@BirgerJarl1621]

Why not befriend Gilgabro?

[@LanceFehr]

I was starting to think this would be an interesting diplomacy game... AND then he just pivots to culture for the bazillionth time in Potato history. Sadness.

[@jeaholland]

Rename it Peepeepoopoo

[@holyholyMariaofthesouth]

29:58 galley is not navy it cant control the sea hehehehee

[@justleavemealone]

Peepee kisses, eh? Also, the title... "Cree empire" with a sideways glance looks an awful lot like cream pie. Y'aughta be ashamed of yourself. Or I oughta, hehehhe.

[@edwardcollins8102]

In your talking about victory conditions, you mark off domination and religion, but isn't culture also a sort of domination victory? Honestly, I'd love to see either a diplomacy victory (since that seems to be the Cree's focus, especially since they're focused on allies. Not required for a diplomacy victory, but certainly from an RP perspective, it's hard to be an asocial diplomat...) or a score victory (assuming a standard score victory is even possible without either winning a different type or losing to another player). And how the hell did Scotland take Tarsus from Persia. I'm assuming that Scotland declared war on Persia, and not the other way around, but still... where the hell are the Persian Immortals? Also, Vatican had a mission to discover the eureka for shipbuilding, why didn't you just build/buy one more galley? Not only would you have gotten a free envoy (useful if you do go diplomatic), but would have doubled the size of your navy... actually it's worse. You decided on your second galley AFTER discovering Shipbuilding... Classic Potato. Can you do a video on when the perfect time to settle cities vs waiting for Ancestral Hall is? And of course, you will be going for the worst government building in the game. The Audience Hall SUCKS BALLS, BIG TIME. It is the ONLY government building in the game to come with a negative. And it's not that powerful compared to the Intelligence Agency or the Royal Society. Another classic Potato move. Not grabbing a friendship with Gilgamesh when you first meet him...

[@LordWatson]

The greater goooood

[@liuyusi125]

how about natives do not have congressional representation at all in the US? Let’s talk about that~ 😂

[@Rob-od2ei]

I hate it when the AI spams missionaries. And there is nothing you can do, no way to say stop it or else, or just go to war.... I know you can make apostles and all that but man there has to be a way to say stop your SHT or else. LOL

[@OutOfMarbles127]

None of these are particalurly good culture civs... As he scrolls past Persia and Egypt xD

[@Gorillaphoenix77]

Why would you settle such terrible cities? They're not big enough for a district (except maybe a harbor) and they stretch your amenities late game.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

You'll see

[@matiburg1]

This new style with cultural commentary smacks a bit of 2015 Atheism+ I could be wrong, but I worry that woke/gaming won't be a succes for you.

[@C1azed]

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