THE GOD START Torres - Civ 6 China Deity Ep.1

Hey Spuddies, PotatoMcWhiskey here and welcome to my Deity Civ 6 Let's Play as China
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[@isbeb507]

my dude your people just crawled out of the primordial ooze, took one look at the virgin lands and said "this is where we'll put broadway"

[@-dash.]

This gave me a good laugh thank you

[@njames69]

Underrated comment

[@donny7841]

Lmao, definitely underrated comment.

[@jackspedicy2711]

welk in the year 3000 will be constructed a "mankind's manifested miracle" wonder, constructed out of 300 000 000 tonnes of steel it will be a world wonder showing the dedication of mankind to overcome all hurdles, butting aside war and diffrences to combat threats unlike mankind has seen.... And it will be constructed in my backyard too, theres a big floating hologram above it sayng "mankinds manifested miracle: +100 faith, 10+ great savior points per turn, gives +25% tourism to this city, grants unique project "dedicate effort" allowing to but one city production to another city, and being 100% more effective against world ending threats" But uh, i dont think you own the dlc to see this wonder....

[@iangodwin478]

Hahahahaha

[@butter_nut1817]

Popular Opinion: the early game is by far the best.

[@caleblittle27]

Butter_NUT definitely, instead of just doing city projects and little infrastructure while you just keep doing turn to turn till you win...

[@rimax82]

yes it is, I often quit the game after exploring and expanding

[@lancedones208]

Shame the game and its achievements are try to make you finish

[@JayGarrickFlash]

Idk bro, absolutely curb stomping the ai with a dominant military in late game is always the most satisfying for me. Especially when they offer a peace deal after each city you conquer because they know it's over for them XD

[@Animatedboar]

Butter_NUT facts

[@sauce773]

So this is how you play the game when you know what everything does lol

[@serg9320]

Free Civ 6 gang does not approve of this play style

[@Outland9000]

@@serg9320 Civ 3,4,5 veteran here... Civ 6 is utterly bewildering. I get crushed even on warlord.

[@luccaf9325]

@@Outland9000 I am from free gang só just play on the lowest difficulty lol

[@WangGanChang]

@@Outland9000 same here, been playing since civ 1. Civ 6 is still some what confusing to me, so many things you just need to know ahead to strategically place districts, so many bonus to track. Civ 4 is still my fav...

[@wasterangler]

@Adrain Acha Conditioner is better

[@tatienouorest3358]

Soo much planning and thought in his game Me: “I’ll just go with the flow and see…”

[@Entschuldigung14]

I don’t start planning my cities until the setter is in the area. I only decided where the districts will go when I’m placing them

[@rustyshackelford3590]

Civ 6 game: *Every single tile thats unclaimed* Potatomcwhistkey: “SEND THE SETTLERS!”

[@Leonardo.BoxxyT]

China is the first civ I ever won with, looking forward for this series

[@brueh8]

One single player strategy it seems nobody but me is using is scrapping the whole "scout first" - in Civ 5, this was true since scouts were actually truly supermobile; in Civ 6, they are still fine, although less much so. Especially on deity the time loss incurred by investing in one is too big. What I have been doing with great success is a "builder first" strategy. The way to do this is by first using up all but one charges of the builder (usually two; at least one thing that you get with your first tech plus another thing), then sending the builder out to explore. Yes, this has its risk, but is actually almost never punished, since barb scouts only turn aggressive when their camp is destroyed, you only need to be careful if they only have one way to go, in which case they might step on the builder accidentally. To make even more use of this, if you settled next to water, you can tech for sailing and then send your builder out over the waters, where they are extremely safe, while staying mobile and getting a lot of intel and goodies. But this depends also on the map type. Another added bonus of doing this is that taking ancient ruins with builders does not have the random chance of unit exp or unit healing, which are two of the worst options available. I have been using this strategy for about 50 games now, never got punished to a game losing degree - sometimes you lose the builder in the end, but at that point, you should have easily made your money back, while still having gotten two build charges out of it. Also your yields are now much better early on, which propels you even further. For people that are going to say that the scout intel is invaluable: give my technique a try for 2 games at least. You will see that a scout is actually just as vulnerable as a builder (the only exception being barb camp stealing - which, with god tier luck, you can still do with a builder!), and with the builder you will still uncover just as much as with a scout. If you play, you can make a perfect judgement on when to call the Builder back to use the last charge even. I am eager to hear other views. I agree with most tactical decisions of people like Potato or TheGameMechanic, but the starting strategy is extremely crucial, and I think scout first is just wrong. But again, I am eager for well-tempered debate. Greets

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I don't do builder first because its extremely greedy and if you don't see an AI early enough you die. I'll definitely look into it more though

[@yuenhai]

I can only play on Prince, because my personal win condition is to build every single wonder in the game Occasionally I manage to pull it off on King, but that usually requires many restarts to roll for a great starting spot

[@troodon1096]

Got to say a play concentrating on getting as many wonders as possible is really satisfying. I tend to value wonders more than is practical just because it feels so great building one.

[@resarox8237]

Hey Potato, nice work you're doing with your videos - it's always a blast to watch them! :D I have a question I have after about 300 hours of playing with not quite managing to win the majority of my immortal-games: How do you weave in religion/holy sites into your gameplan? I never did a religious victory since I dread the micro-management, and so I stay kind of ignorant to the benefits of an early holy site. Even if I see your gameplays with it, I don't get what kind of advantage you are after beyond the pantheon. Instead of a holy site, I would have built an early campus to stabilise in science. I would take a free holy site district of course, but I cannot assess whether a holy site is worth it to postpone a campus or thelike. Lately, I did some multiplayer-pvp games with 3+ friends and it has been absolutely amazing. Managed to play two (!) games in 4 hours, and everyone has been full of action! I always thought PVP would be bad since you can get sniped out of a game quite fast, but with friends you can just quit and start a new one. Really recommend multiplayer-pvp, although it's maybe not a good format for let's plays. Keep up the good work and stay safe!

[@hockeydoc87]

Great start. I really think dig your live stream teaching videos. Already a better player now after watching the last one.

[@los_no_fake5249]

I love How you pronounce the Spanish jdjdjd Saludos desde Chile, you are my favorite youtuber

[@OstapKomaryanskyy]

Quality content, I like you explaining all the reasoning and planning. Also, I was subscribed way before via Marbozir, but now this popped up in my youtube homepage.

[@votecthulhu9378]

Insane start. I actually briefly watched the stream and thought you deliberately created this map to show off your logic when settling

[@zioming]

I had this start once, back in vanilla civ 6, where I was on a hill on a river with 4 flood plains along a river, 2 of them with wheat, clumped up into a diamond shape right next to my city, 3 tiles with hill forest elephants or something (4 or 5 production each) to kickstart your production, about 75% of the city tiles were hills, 60% of tiles were plains, and the other 40% were desert(almost all hills). With a Petra (obviously) that city was a beast. Unfortunately it was on a borrowed laptop I had to give back and I didn't take a screenshot.

[@andrewtolu4213]

Hey potato! Just wanted to thank you, I just won my first deity game because of you! (After 5 years of playing civ)

[@GR1TH3R]

not sure if many know about this or if it's intended to work like this, but you can fortify a unit, cancel, then promote while its fortified on the same turn instead of promoting next turn

[@dogeydear1233]

the quote of the century "when this builder pops out" lol and lmao

[@stevenwilliams3534]

Mate, I'm a subscriber, I followed your link to your Discord, and even created an account there. For the past week all I get is "messages failed to load, try again"... Am I cursed? Does the blood of the ancients weigh heavy on my quest for a game start file??

[@hierkommtalex7762]

>god start as China >no rice

[@Z0mb13ta11ahase]

Good on you for taking losing apadana so well. When I'm playing china if I don't get it I just restart. That's like 12 envoys down the drain

[@RPFLucroe]

Going for the wonder pantheon as china is actually op bruh... It basically allows you to funnel extra production back into ur city, and production is king early

[@Fycrt]

This man is a god at civ 6, i thought i was somewhat okay till i have met this man.

[@thechazzler8934]

I love your content cause you explain your thought process so well

[@timmi4761]

Came from the Spiff! Love watching both of your channels 🙏🏽

[@lucjan764]

So I don't know if that was true back the , but boost to wonder production like that pantheon and autocracy actually boost China's builder ability which would make that pantheon particularly good for China

[@garneroutlaw1]

If you didn't reroll this map 100 times to get those tiles, then you need to go buy a powerball ticket tonight.

[@superking7135]

Deity conspiracy theory: What if when you labeled the tile w Apadana during your planning, the deity AI now knows that’s what your plan is and got there first? What if the deity AI customizes its strategy based on how you label all of your tiles?!?!

[@natethenotsogreat8349]

I swear this is what happens when you move settlers

[@juliuskonrad5670]

Just started a china deity game, unfortunately I think there's no way to rush Machu Pichu? Used to think China was the bomb ...

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

No, you will almost never get Machi

[@arunsrikaewvichain9348]

i myself found that you have a better shot trying to build apadana and oracle than macchu picchu

[@o0alessandro0o]

You can maybe possibly cheese it by playing a tiny or duel map, and messing around with the settings to limit the amount of mountains: if the AI does not have any valid tiles to build it, it cannot abuse its many unfair advantages to beat you to it.

[@loftie4822]

Cannot watch but I liked it, will come back to watch later

[@jfelizondomd]

I am amazed at how fast your game moves. I play mine on a MacBook pro, 4 yrs old, and it so slow. What hardware do you use.

[@Jevgein]

hahaha, yes yes the old spiffing brit.

[@zacharyfreeman8579]

I actually just got a REALLY good coastal Kublai Khan in a quick play I just ran. I've got like 5 or 6 plantation spots in my starting 2 cities so easy Open sky religion for some bonus early culture, plus a good +3 mountain tile for my campus (not focusing religion but still want one) so I'm debating going a tourism victory or a diplomatic victory

[@autumn2941]

Wait whaaaa I didn't know you could clear barbarian camp by setting your base.

[@raixbox360]

0:00 every time he says "Heeeeeeeey!" my brain goes "Vsauce here!"

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Hey, Potato Sauce here

[@RongChik]

Yay, great videos, keep them coming!

[@TheJesusSixSixSix]

I think you put out better content than the spiffing brit. My passion for this game is as yours potato

[@joa65]

Way better.

[@kevindotcom5318]

So happy to see you playing China again!

[@dagmaramachura5184]

I also spawn near Torres playing China!

[@malekjbour6967]

man i discover that i am dump despite i am playing this for long time you are very advanced in this game

[@Outland9000]

So... Districts have to be adjacent to your city but wonders can be built anywhere?

[@davi0111]

Thanks!

[@smoog1082]

hey potato, great stuff as always! i was just wondering, what is your criteria for your canal placements? what do you as most/least optimal etc

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Canals are mostly useless, use them for fun and IZ adjacency.

[@roinymphornithorynque3282]

Im happy to discover your channnel

[@dawill8212]

I played this seed earlier today a nearly got wrecked by Norway they nearly stole the game with religion I had to invade them and wipe out a few of their cities to stop them

[@peterfuga]

Good work with this video

[@nolanmartin3573]

Yes, finally those tweets I sent you a year ago are paying off.

[@pourilkinalexandros8632]

I have a question about the adjacency of districts. Are the adjacency rising or dropping after you have placed the district. For example: I placed the theater square and later built a wonder, will it rise +2 or stay with no change? Or i have a Campus adjacent to a rain forest and after i cut the forest, the Campus will lose the bonus?

[@Lillith_sv]

Yay finally a china deity game.

[@kaizermierkrazy6886]

I haven't seen a natural wonder in probably 3+ months and 10+ games. Just my terrible luck

[@sinamoyer]

let's just go for the settler pantheon.... LIKE ALWAYS

[@PommieUsian]

I'm excited to try this out! I got the seeds from the live stream; but how are we able to use the save file from Discord?

[@bmolale081]

I’m a noob to the game so this may be an obvious question, but does the base build of the game with no expansions have governors? I’ve played through (& lost) 4 times now so I’m here to learn. Ty for the videos!

[@keskonriks710]

Could you play a game with the Switzerland mod as Switzerland? That would be nice :)

[@bkknoodles68]

You knew the map beforehand... so no rival civ hiding in the fog. One warrior and a scout seemed a bit light. I've been trashed before by aggressive neighbours; i had maybe a warrior, scout and 2 archers. Risky?

[@watsonswhey]

what's the reasoning behind settling on coastal lowlands? Do you predict the game finishes before your cities are swallowed?

[@ShowTheOreo]

I'm surprised you didn't go with Liang first with China

[@benjaminschroder4074]

What is that 12:12? Never seen this before. Unique to china? Is he playing different than standard settings?

[@magnussundberglauridsen7292]

This vid helped me get good

[@Karboluk]

Hermitage goes where Apadana was, no? Forbidden city is good, but you were musing about Hermitage and rivers early on

[@VaraNiN]

3:55 Even on Deity? Man that's such useful advice! I was always afraid of sending a single Warrior against the Barb's Spearmen Edit: Is that still true for the latest update?

[@malaysianmapping9767]

The mandate of heaven.........

[@Thorite_Gem]

Yes! New series! And I'm early!! :D

[@Hotshotben]

Great content

[@MontharKragan]

When I tried playing using the seeds from the live stream, I kept getting Nan Modal where La Venta is.

[@Nikarus2370]

The map seed guarentees the map design. But the game seed will dictate which civs and city states there are, and where they spawn, and it does seem to take into account the civ you choose. So using the same exact seed may get the same starting locations, but shift which civs land where. If you "need" a faith city state... just start picking different game seeds till you get one you like.

[@MontharKragan]

@@Nikarus2370 I used both the map and game seeds shown in the live steam and was playing as China. I tried multiple times and every time those seeds gave me Nan Modal instead of La Venta and America instead of Norway. The only thing different is I don't use any mods.

[@revenantgamer4514]

MontharKragan nan mandol is even better Cus of the housing bonus when you are suzerain. Soooo. Idk. Good either way

[@Nikarus2370]

@@MontharKragan Yeah I just fired it up myself and got the same thing whereas a few days ago I got La Venta and Norway (I even have the save, and it lists the same seeds). Perhaps some update was made to the game seed algorithm in the last few days?

[@MontharKragan]

@@revenantgamer4514 You're thinking of Mohenjo-Daro. Nan Modal is +2 culture in your coastal districts.

[@tapele5987]

Which mod is he using that shows citizens and where borders will grow only by hovering over a city?

[@Israel220500]

2:21 Did not wait until turn 7! 🤔

[@ukaszbaran494]

Just thinking , You can have a Builder with 8 charges, that will solo build you a wonder?

[@darkredsrevenge6154]

Damnit this is too big brain I need smaller brain tutorial XD

[@enlara90]

South China Sea to the North!

[@jackmiller505]

Ive beaten the game on Immortal numerous times, but I feel like a potato after just 5min of this video...

[@daddistalin2051]

Ironic how the South China Sea was north of China

[@zachforbes3901]

I'm confused how do u have 4 production on your plains hills tiles I only get 2 production, that's cheap af

[@tehanua4383]

Why are those hills plus 4?

[@Sharlequint]

Is this r&f or gs or both or vanilla?

[@karlespinosa3566]

FFS ive beeen playing since civ 1 but ive been playing it wrong all this time.

[@ProtonCannon]

Spends 5 minutes explaining that he WON'T pick religions settlements... Picks religious settlements...

[@paulosalvador]

i'm just 4 games in civ 6, so my question may seem dumb: why is there 2food/4production and 3food/4production tiles in the begining? think i never seen those unimproved.

[@alagado666]

Natural Wonder bonuses.

[@GewalfofWivia]

Serious question: When you guys get Torres, do you like a 4 food 2 production tile or a 2 food 4 production tile better?

[@SirJunnOfER]

I usually tend to think more production is better than more food. You usually only need more citizens to work more tiles and thereby getting more production. With a higher production yield you need less citizens for the same amount of production. The only time I’d really want the 4 food tile would be in a ‘new world’ scenario where I need more citizens for maximum pressure, thereby making it less likely to lose my city. But I’d take everything I say with a grain of salt as I only have a couple hundred hours in this game and am therefore not very good. Have a good day/night/ whatever.

[@Rich-MarsEco]

Why not wait the 4-5 turns for the PolicyCard that gives 15% prod towards wonders? Does it or does it not stack with the 15% from the build charge...? Would it also stack or not with that government type that gives 10% prod towards wonders too?

[@Fribnibby]

Pretty sure it doesn't - China ability description says the builder completes 15% of the *original* cost, and wonder costs don't scale like districts do.

[@Rich-MarsEco]

Fribnibby I totally get that, but most of the other modifiers apply to production applied to the wonder (in this case). So I wasn’t sure if the original production from the builder (which is determined by the %) for example let’s say 50 production, if it is then increased by like the 10% from the government to be total of 55 (or the 15% from the policy), before its applied to the wonder.

[@dynamo8642]

is it special prepared map? not random?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

It is random, that I found by accident.

[@SourceOfBeing]

18:24 - Since when did that production popup occur? I've never seen it.

[@davidbrogdon3835]

Its a mod

[@Nikarus2370]

He's got an interface mod that does it.

[@refinedbrass]

can we get way more old world plz and been waiting for you to do this china start since the stream cant wait but why you make so short

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Will do more Old World Soon tm

[@poutintsev]

Why did you pay to get open borders? I never agree to that as I don't want enemy to be wondering around my land.

[@vevilos2167]

why my civ vi dosent have governors ??

[@alexturner7674]

I’m playing on IPhone as Scythia, how come when I choose religious settlements I don’t get a settler in my capitol..

[@bruhbruh6721]

Are you playing in standard mode? because if so you won't get the settler

[@LordeCego]

Potato every game: 1 minute reasoning about pantheon possibilities... pick the free settler anyway Dont fall for the pantheon bait, guys

[@wooju08]

I'm extremely guilty of taking religious settlements almost every game. It's just so good

[@janmantsch8468]

But wait with the power if Spiff co. Incorperated you to are able to exploit the game and press the Pantheon Button and the Esc button at the same time and GLITCH the game and get the Settler and still pick another one and another one and another one and another one and another one and another one and another one and another one...

[@IgneousKaiser]

Tbh, I go for divine inspiration just for those extra great scientist, writer, and prophet points Just note I still play vanilla Civ 6

[@Lostvikiing]

Hahaha, I just forward 10s to have the debate over with and see him go for.... religious settlements

[@jeanmahmoudventilateur3480]

I prefer, by far, the more great person points, I get almost every great persons every games with this, when you choose to expand a lot (no citizen loss with magnus) it's really powerful, but it depends on the map size you are

[@VaraNiN]

9:45 Sometimes I get the feeling that at least half the difficulty of this game is not knowing all the mechanics lol. Thanks for all the tips!

[@titaniumtac6277]

"Oh my sweet Jesus Christ", the level of concern he has for poor Canada is hilarious

[@BAM_Deadstroke]

When his scout waltzed into Canada and just saw like 4 barbarians 😂 That "Oh my sweet Jesus Christ" was hilarious

[@huntercoff]

Sees canada: friends Canada: sure Five seconds later: sweet Jesus Christ

[@aidanabregov1412]

How useful is China’s builder ability to “chop” turns off of wonders? I’ve tried to wonder rush as China a few times but end up way too behind.

[@canoncoriell9105]

Aidan Abregov pretty useful if you know how to run it. You need a good start and need a good economy to abuse it

[@aidanabregov1412]

Canon Coriell Got it! Start next to Torres! I know what you mean. It’s just much harder to manage for a normal start. The Apadana being taken before unlocking Poli Phil didn’t surprise me in the least. I guess that’s what comes with the territory of wonder building.

[@Isengardtom]

Aidan Abregov apadana usually goes very fast. Same with Machu

[@SidMajors]

Isengardtom ye this. Know which ones to rush and which ones to skip. Hanging gardens is usually easy to get and good for any game. Pyramids and Petra too but very situational. Sometimes Jebel, Stonehenge or Artemis. The water ones suck and all the cultural ones are rushed most of the time or I’d skip them.

[@canoncoriell9105]

Sid that’s not true, mauso is one of the most clutch wonders in the game. Can give some of the most benefits in game. But the rest of the waters are pretty trash besides maybe great lighthouse if you’re going naval

[@matthewteo3111]

I didn't realise Spiff recommended you too! I found you with the natural wonder tier list. Also... As a Chinese speaker, I guess it's my turn to sigh at the city pronunciation. >.

[@maxzou4995]

Taiyuan and Taiwan, hemmm, something is going the wrong way lol

[@michaelgoetze8531]

@@maxzou4995 at least Taiwan is a real place, unlike Guangzhu.

[@maxliu7576]

@@michaelgoetze8531 pretty sure he said “guanzhu”

[@tomwilkinson746]

@@alex2005z good news Portugal is coming soon!

[@unfortunary8230]

I feel much better about my bad pronunciation after watching this, at least I can read pinyin correctly! Do you have any tips on improving vocabulary? I'm living in China now and it's difficult ._.

[@jtm1283]

Fun video ... except when you tried to pronounce Taiyuan.

[@bebasvisuals]

The way you pronounce Taiyuan as Taiwan :"D Anyone else notice that?

[@rexisnox577]

i did.

[@caleblittle27]

Liking where this game is going :) Please do a game with Poland soon, you haven’t done one since rise and fall came out!

[@MystrangyTV]

In Guangzhou, you can get a really nice industrial by getting the aqueduct to the mountain and a dam to the west. Could you discuss when you will be making the La Venta improvements and Great Walls? Love the content as always!

[@simonmurphy9646]

A Dam to the west? Do you not need a river for that? Can you dam aqueducts?

[@MystrangyTV]

@@simonmurphy9646 Oh darn, I meant a canal.

[@2Links]

Remember seeing this start on stream the other day! Torres 1 best spot.

[@taylorwomack9389]

So hyped for this series. After seeing your videos, I made a successful triple industrial zone complex in a Canada deity game with a river so close to the tundra that one of the cities was able to build Amundsen-Scott Research Station. You make city planning look so easy....

[@MrTimdeK]

I seem to only be able to get Apadana when I find a cultural city state first and/or a production one