POTENTIAL MAJOR ISSUE BMW WARRANTY AND EXTENDED WARRANTY

I was recently turned down for a 12 month BMW extended warranty when my bike reached 3 years old.........This video explains why
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[@andrewlaitt9586]

Good to know! I have the extended warranty this year, and was thinking about the Weiser Tech option (having ridden out with a bunch of other GS1250 owners for the first time last week and seen the issue from a ‘third party’ perspective now) I had no idea how illegible the multifunction lights and indicators were out in the real world… looks like the 911 option is the way to go. Thanks for the video.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Don’t be put off getting some mate, if you buy them from BMW and have them fitted by them then they’ll give you a warranty. Mine were fitted by someone more qualified but because BMW didn’t get their mark up on the product and fitting they won’t give me the warranty. Disgusting to be honest. Mark who owns Weiser is good friends with the guy who fitted mine and sells hundreds to him but it’s a financial thing in my opinion.

[@davidlong2683]

Subbed and liked. Off topic question if you please; who makes the riding jacket you’re wearing? Nice looking,

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Thanks buddy. My jacket is a Lindstrand/Halvarsson Sunne. Got mine off Motolegends. They do a great video review of it on KZbin. Fantastic jacket

[@user-qu2ye4uy2k]

Top video Mr Black Country Biker

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Cheers Bal

[@SOLOMOTOUK]

I’ve just got rid of my BMW sod there warranty I had the full Denali lights horn and B6 rear light. I’ve gone back to the green team

[@Trevster65]

Too much unreliable electronic tech on bikes these days, manufacturers only allow their own mods to electronics as they have tested those to ensure they work and will not affect the standard electronic system. Aftermarket parts may not have same impedances etc so could upset things like the ecu. Just wish they would charge less for manufacturer upgrades

[@stuipooey1]

You can now turn the rear multifunction brake lights off with the Hex GS911 and although the software is currently only available to Beta testing users, it should be in the next update for all users. You have the option to have just rear indicators or you can have marker lights and indicators. I did this but ended up buying the Weiser Technik wizard modules so that the brake lights function but turn off when the indicator is on. I also coded the centre light to work as a day time run light. Its not as good as the setup that you have which is extremely bright and a great option for anyone that doesnt have front spots.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Thanks for your comment mate, appreciate you taking the time to watch. I can turn the front white indicators brightness down with three clicks on the indicator button but I only do that if I’m out at night. Great bit of kit.

[@Stefan_trekkie]

This is frustrating, they are going to huge extends to protect themselves of people doing homemade stuff on the bikes. I will be not surprised if they do that even for a tiniest insignificant upgrade. And the bike itself coasts a lot of money in the first place. My brother had two of the GS series, he was frustrated too and exchanged his latest bike for a Super Tenere 1200.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I can see why

[@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides]

Mate thats one of the reasons i got rid of my 1250 i was still paying my PCP and an additional £39.80 a month for the warranty .made it a real expensive do.Asked to get a ride on the new 1300 that lowers as im a short arse.Waited and waited and they had some in but i couldnt ride one .Offered me shit money in PX for mine so ive jumped ship and joined the Yellow Army the Chinese.Although the CF Moto Mt 800 Explore is built in Austria by KTM 9000 miles between service full 4 year warranty and assistance including Europe

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Ivan great comments mate. I know buddy it’s a big expense and you seem to have a bostin deal with your new bike. To be fair to the lad I spoke to he said don’t pay for something they won’t pay out on and he did check with the ‘underwriters’ but they flat refused unless I did the things I mentioned in the video. My biggest concern Is other people who’ve had the same items fitted on their new ones or nearly new ones mate. That will surely void whatever they have left on their new or under 3 year old bikes. They plug into a hex ezCAN that plug straight into the bike with no alterations to the loom/electrical circuit. Anyway mate I like your new beast and we do need to meet up as we’re only a few miles apart, I’ll buy you a brew👍🏻👍🏻

[@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides]

@@theblackcountrybiker will do mate I will give you a shout when I get out and about.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides ok mate

[@RichardASK]

I understand your grief with BMW, but nothing would make me buy a Chinese bike, whether made outside of China or not. We all have to buy parts with Chinese components, many times without knowing, but to buy something primarily sold as Chinese, NO. I have no wish to support, even marginally, the CCCP regime.

[@washburn8049]

Remember some years ago insurance companies would refer to upgrading brakes and brake lines as a modification, which clearly made the bike safer, but they would not insure them. As for BMW, It is a way to abdicate their responsibility towards the consumer. Warranties are not worth the paper they are written on.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Exactly right mate 👍🏻👍🏻

[@gillianbrodie6807]

I wholeheartedly agree with you! It's time BMW put safety first in this case. Thanks for the video. 😃👍

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@gillianbrodie6807 thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

[@ianhoskins7838]

Waited 3 minutes to find out the warranty problem. FFS!!!😂

[@jeffsmith3850]

Very informative was not aware of that great video and lovely surroundings im in suffolk. Love that jacket im getting that one when i decide which bike to change for later this hear when my gsa 850 goes. Was looking at the 1250 gsa but the more i read the more im thinking of trying japanese, but none of them make a great adv bike 🤷‍♂

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Mate my GS is the best bike I’ve ever owned, it’s just the pricing on servicing etc. my recent main 12000 mile service was £495 but a mate of mine got the same service and an MOT for £385 at another Dealership. Thanks for your comments mate and for taking the time to watch the video, I appreciate it.

[@paulgibson490]

If your thinking of taking BMW extended warranty dont i bought it and when the paperwork arrived it tells you more about what it doesn't cover than what it does. The extended warranty is not bmw its a insurance company and as far as that goes is the answer. We all know insurance companies will wriggle out of anything they can. Just add recovery to the bike insurance to get it to a trusted dealer or independent bmw shop. If you do buy it read the paperwork and you can still cancel it within a time period can't remember how long you get.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Cheers Paul, I won’t be buying it mate. Luckily I’ve got the recovery in my insurance and through my old work scheme. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment buddy, I really appreciate it👍🏻

[@davidbutcher1690]

I bought it and just renewed it for another year - last year I had a new ESA rear shock and a new "whiz wheel" - just called at dealer, said can you look at this and in 5 mins parts ordered and fitted within 3/4 days in each case so for me its worth it - I do 20k plus miles year mostly in Europe and have seen the recovery work seamlessly for a mate who after a low speed drop broke an ankle - bike was home before him. It's not for everyone I know but worth the peace of mind in my case. Had things been different or had a bad experience I would not have renewed either.

[@paulgibson490]

@@davidbutcher1690 I had a new rear shock replaced during warranty at 11000 miles when I received my extended warranty it said suspension wasn't covered above 30000 miles as my bike was nearing 30000 and that is one of the main expense on bmw it didn't make sense to me. Also I am told bmw are supposed to be good if you have a major problem as long as the servicing is carried out by bmw motorrad dealer?

[@davidbutcher1690]

Mine had done just under 30K but the replacement is warranted for 2 years or next 30k (confirmed by BMW) I do get it serviced at BMW though - last bike had a new ECU under goodwill after several attempts to sort a problem. Maybe I'm lucky but my dealer is excellent.@@paulgibson490

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@davidbutcher1690 I’d love it but they won’t give it me

[@billywhittaker5222]

Hey love the videos, I live in the Black Country myself ( Rowley Regis) please can you tell me is the village you visited Shatterford? Looks Beautiful 😍 Cheers Bill

[@theblackcountrybiker]

It’s Arley mate and Thanks for your comment. I used to knock About up Rowley Regis mate, had a mate named Tom Billingham who lived in Blackheath. He was a biker but I’ve lost touch with him.

[@paulyflyer8154]

When I lived in Germany up to 3 years ago, we weren't allowed to fit after-market accessories or modifications unless they were from the bike manufacturer and approved by them. If you fitted say some ebay special fog lights or bar risers, the bike would fail the annual TÜV which is the same as the mot here. Also the parts would make the insurance void. Apparently it's not changed there and I've heard that the same rules are coming to the UK soon. Yet another little tool for them to get us all off the road and end our personal transport independence.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

They certainly don’t make it easy do they mate? I’ve been told about Germany before and that my lights might contravene traffic laws there. I do want to go there for a small tour so I’m sure I’ll find out at some point. Thanks for your comments, for watching the video and the info mate, really appreciate it👍🏻👍🏻

[@paulyflyer8154]

@theblackcountrybiker You'll be fine just visiting there and indeed you'd be fine if you lived there you'd get away with it unless you crashed....until the TÜV every 2 years. So most riders I knew didn't bother messing about. The plus side of course is they spend less time and money fettling the bikes and more time riding the bloody things! 🤣

[@ioandragulescu6063]

I don't know, last year, I installed myself a 3rd party cruise control system on my previous v strom 650. Then my dealer made an appointment with a DEKRA engineer who came, inspected the system and gave me the approval. Got an official paper and entry into the vehicle registration, making the bike legal for both TÜV and insurance. The whole process costed me 50 euros if I remember correctly and it was a one day job. And as far as I know, in Germany, if a part has an ABE certificate it's legal to install, regardless who manufactured it. I get this means one cannot install any Chinese bit from ebay but until now I was able to find a legal option for anything I wanted to have on my bikes. Only downside is they are a bit more expensive than the cheapest options out there but not by much.

[@RichardASK]

@@paulyflyer8154 Unless of course they broken down BMWs.

[@paulyflyer8154]

@@RichardASK Predictive text? Doesn't make sense 😕

[@davidrobinson4099]

Totally agree with you the bike is much safer with the writer lights than standard and it looks so much better.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Thanks for commenting mate, I appreciate your opinion especially as it’s the same as mine👍🏻😂

[@davidrobinson4099]

I’ve emailed weiser to see what there thoughts are I did see in the video you said they are aware of the issue keep up the good work

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@davidrobinson4099 yes buddy Mark who owns Weiser is aware of my situation, but I’ve had no feedback as yet.

[@iaincorser7079]

Not too long ago I think it was illegal in the UK to have indicators permanently on (might be wrong) but it was an issue with vehicles imported for the USA. I'm wondering if this is an EU thing that BMW has imposed on the UK market to simplify production requirements. Interestingly, Honda are doing the same. Their upside down indicators/horn switch is bad enough without confusing other road users with daft light shows!

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I think you’re spot on there mate, I’m sure they were illegal a few years back

[@GS_riders1250]

You can change the rear setup with the GS-911

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Ok that’s good then but I was told last week the main light could be turned on but the rear indicators couldn’t be done but there was an update coming. Obviously got here pretty quick 👍🏻

[@Bazza47]

The 3 year BMW factory warranty and the extended warranty are 2 different things, the latter is effectively just an insurance policy to give you peace of mind if anything goes wrong (with some exclusions). Personally I don't bother with the extended warranty as I think it's far too expensive. If my bike does let me down I'll be having the conversation with my main dealer as if it's a known fault BMW will very often make a goodwill gesture towards the repair. If my bike was still on a PCP but out of warranty I wouldn't pay to have a warranty on a bike that I didn't own. You could look at the options to see if there's other warranties out there that suit your needs and your pocket.

[@slipthegreyhound]

In which menu is the option to turn the front running light off on the GS911? I cant find it. Ive got those indicators on my 22 plate so I may have problems with any warranty issues in the future.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Hi mate, someone else did mine but there’s other KZbin videos about to show you where to find that particular menu on the Hex GS 911 options. Sorry I can’t be of more help.

[@billyray3761]

Replace the rear reflector with a Denali brake light. They are extremely bright when activated.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

To be honest I’m more than happy with the Weisers mate but I know what you mean, the denalis are quality. My front spots are Denali👍🏻

[@johnhart868]

Them warrantys aren't worthy the paper there written on.

[@nikoscosmos]

😂. They are worth it believe me!

[@jontaylor5322]

This idea of all the rear lighting through the indicators, is the most ridiculous, Dangerous idea ever! Following some of my mates with the standard BMW lighting, it's more often than not you have NO idea if they're indicating, even braking sometimes. As to the front having the indicators illuminated orange, well, the designer should be £%#@£!!! Orange is a SIDE marker, of course at a glance, people at junctions see it as you're indicating. I have no idea what possessed BMW to do this & worse still. How did this pass the British Safety Standards? Mind you, the tiny indicators on the back of some cars now, are the size of the LED, so when the car is braking, you never see the indicator on these also. But worse, as LED's are a bit directional (as opposed to a bulb with full vission from any angle), if your off to the side on a bend, you actually can't tell they're indicating, even without the brakes on. I think some British Safety Inspectors, could possibly be taking amazing summer holidays they can't actually afford, maybe??? That's my 2 penny worth rant over... 😂😂😂

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Great comments mate, that’s why I got mine changed but because I didn’t pay BMW (who actually sell them in their showrooms now) to fit them they won’t sell me the extended warranty. The guy who fitted mine is a weiser agent and is in regular contact with Martin who’s the owner and designer of WEISER TECH. Not good enough for BMW😡

[@jontaylor5322]

@theblackcountrybiker I totally forgot to mention the warranty issue, you might have noticed I got caught up how daft these indicator lights are... oops!!!🤣😂🤣 So yes. The warranty, I would understand this, IF the bike management system threw up a fault. But as there is NO fault present, then BMW Should allow the extended warranty, its not like they don't know this system after all. Perhaps they are expecting the exhaust flapper valve or the shaft splines to fail soon & just want out? On my RS I made them change the flapper valve exhaust section, after my 4th fault for it (2019 bike) & I lubricated the splines myself, to play safe.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@jontaylor5322 my flapper valve failed literally 2 months before the original 3 year manufacturer warranty expired so luckily that was sorted by them. I’m 11 days in now without any warranty and it’s a tad worrying to be honest but I’m waiting for a response about my moan😂

[@MRGS48]

Just my .02 here my friend… Fix number one re install the OEM lights and program them since -I assume you have a hex ez can-, if that doesn’t work you have two I believe options. 1st don’t buy anything ever again BMW and secondly and maybe most important don’t buy the extended BS warranty as it’s a third party insurance and your or whichever dealership offers ya that they just upsale ya. Like what I did with Harley here in the US. Local dealer wanted/quoted me for a set of tires that I would provide a $388! minimum charge… I told em to F off and went to an independent service place and got em on balanced ready to go at just around $200!!!! Go figure… Good luck mate cheers from Arizona 🌵🌵

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Cheers mate, great minds think alike 😂. I have told them to ‘go forth and multiply’. To be honest I’m leaving em on and I certainly won’t be having the extended warranty (at least not with them). The letter comes from BMW Motorrad UK and not directly from any dealership. I love the bike, it’s outstanding but I agree with everything you say buddy. Thanks for your comments I really appreciate it and you taking the time to watch the video👍🏻 I’ve just subbed to your channel buddy.

[@MRGS48]

@@theblackcountrybiker ohh you’re so kind… Much appreciated..! I share what I know with anyone whether I agree or disagree… Since my dollar/shekels/drachmas tree dried out in my backyard I am compelled to save people money whenever I may be able by sharing thoughts and/or knowledge is all… Thanks again

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@MRGS48 I’ve got one of those trees too mate😄😄

[@MH-xd2nd]

I think the issue here is that the extreme evos require modification of the existing wiring. Yes it’s just a T spike connector, but a hamfisted installer could cause issues that may not appear until some time later. However this should only affect those parts of the warranty that the indicator fitting has touched, not the entire extended warranty. As it happens I am picking up a bike with the same setup (not installed by me) so I have asked my dealer for an official response as logically how can I be offered an approved warranty from a bike bought from an approved BMW dealer with some items excluded? I shudder to think how much restoring the stock LED indicators would cost - it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that they would charge for an entire wiring loom if the T spike connector on the Evo kit has caused any damage. This is why the Wizard modules are a better bet as they use the existing indicators and are completely and invisibly reversible.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Thanks for your comments buddy. Mine connect through a HEX ezCan that plugs straight into the existing circuit with no cutting of wires. They were fitted by Steve at ‘A BIKE THING’ who has fitted more of these than any BMW dealership. I’ve also spoken to the owner of the Weiser company about his product. BMW just want to get their mark up on selling them to customers and then obviously charge them me for fitting. Steve is as qualified if not more so but that’s not good enough for BMW, basically because they haven’t made any money from me re these items.

[@MH-xd2nd]

That’s reasonable and I think if you have proof of a professional installation then that should be enough. BMW needs to be careful of anti competitive behaviour - look what’s happening to Apple right now 😂

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@MH-xd2nd 😂😂 yes mate…… on the proof side of things both Steve and I did a video of it that’s on my KZbin channel but it still won’t do for them buddy but to be honest I might look elsewhere now for a warranty. I’ve got UK and European break down and recovery with my old job and current insurance👍🏻

[@tojj29]

Perhaps BMW would give you a written document stating that if you have the original ones put back on, should someone pull out on you then they'll pay you compensation for poor design. No, thought they wouldn't. Any excuse with them isn't it

[@theblackcountrybiker]

It is mate yeah, full of excuses.

[@andrewmason2879]

I have just bought a new adventure 1250 and done the same has you. The first thing I did was to have them fitted by the Bike Thing indicators sound bomb and D3 spots. And I had someone pull out on me on my first test ride. I told them what I was going to do and they said nothing about voiding the warranty at all. They are so much better now and a lot safer. If I am doing long tours with the wife on the back the safety is most important. Everything is plug and play it should not make no difference at all mate. What a load of shit from BMW. There is no way I can ride the bike has it was. Apart from this I love the bike that’s why I changed them 100% a lot safer. I dare not ask again now I have spent all that money making it safe for me and the wife, bloody he’ll 😤Thanks for the heads up mate 👍👍

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I also got mine fitted at Steve’s (A bike thing, he did a video on my fitting) too along with the sound bomb and D4’s. Same here too mate I’m travelling with my mates but more importantly with my missus. They are excellent. Thanks for your comments buddy👍🏻👍🏻

[@andrewmason2879]

@@theblackcountrybiker No Thank-you mate, I wonder if it depends on what BMW dealer ship you use. I have nothing but praise for mine up to yet 👍 so they could say fitting a none standard exhaust can void your warranty then and how many fokes do that with there new BMW bikes.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@andrewmason2879 Exactly buddy. It’s scary stuff. I think you’d probably be ok changing the pipes because they sell Ackropovic in the showrooms. They didn’t ask what dealership I used. I phoned the official insurance company directly who deal with the extended warranty. If I hadn’t said anything about the Weisers and something did go wrong the guy said they wouldn’t deal with it unless I paid the full cost of the repair and recovery.

[@andrewmason2879]

Sycamore BMW actually sell them and it says nothing about voiding the warranty if you fit them. So if a BMW dealer ship sells them and recommend them surely they would not sell them 👍 And it surely should say in the small print that this product might void your warranty 👍

[@andrewmason2879]

I don’t no mate but I think they a brilliant bikes for touring and no regrets in buying it. Insurance companies etc are shit over priced and if anything goes wrong try there upmost in not paying out ride safe mate 👍

[@mrdaulo]

Interesting I was thinking of putting these lights on my bike it’s only a year old, it’s funny because there’s no mention from the retailers of these lights that it could invalidate the warranty. I think I’ll hold off for now.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Mate if you get BMW to supply and fit them there won’t be an issue. They didn’t like the fact I purchased/fitted them elsewhere as apparently their technicians are the only ones qualified. Mark who owns Weiser is now aware of this issue as I let them know yesterday but the guy who supplied and fitted mine is a Weiser agent and has fitted more than BMW. The truth is they didn’t get a markup on the product and no fitting fee hence they’ve refused to give me warranty.

[@mrdaulo]

@@theblackcountrybiker that’s out of order mate, I was going to fit them myself. I was going to buy them from A bike thing they offer a fitting service as well. I think maybe I need to have a conversation with the dealer I bought the bike from. Thanks mate

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@mrdaulo that’s where I go mine from and fitted. There’s a video on my channel mate with Steve talking to camera. I spoke to Steve yesterday and let him know my issue and he in turn has spoken to Mark who owns Weiser. Have a look at the video mate, it’s the NEW SAFER TURN SIGNALS one👍🏻 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2OpeZVjbcypa7Msi=vhMpzYubpx7EoAX4

[@RichardASK]

Arley looks nice. In warm weather always a good place for an ice cream.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

A nice place to chill out buddy 👍🏻

[@GPR111]

Can understand your frustration but is there any bike or car manufacturer that will honour an extended warranty if you altered it from standard (even though the mods seem sensible and better)....

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Not sure buddy. The thing for me is BMW buy these from Mark(Weiser) and sell them to bikers and don’t always fit them but aren’t telling the buyer it will void any extended warranty. I’ve had lots of one on one contact with Mark who owns Weiser and he’s gobsmacked. In his own words ‘I must be the only person on the planet who’s been refused an extended warranty’. His indicators are on thousands of bikes around the world. He’s been selling in the U.S for a decade and here for approximately 4 years. BMW actually make the covers and lenses themselves, Weiser put their LED’s into them. His business partner is going to visit Allianz insurance in Germany to discuss what’s going on. Interesting stuff indeed mate. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻👍🏻

[@PwnstarUK]

I understand where you are coming from but i think you should take the option where they take them off and then it them back and you get your warranty, I got to be honest. BMW dont know that they are wired up right and that bikes got a lot of computer stuff going on. I bet they charge you a lot to do that, but you will have peace of mind and thats the only path forward. I hate al these changes to indicators etc they dont think about when vehicles can only be half seen. If you get a warranty in the end you've won.

[@AndyGSATractor]

I fitted the modules that use the std lights and sorts out the multi function rubbish. Mine out of warranty in October so will see if they let me take out a warrenty

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Appreciate you commenting mate. Good luck with it 👍🏻👍🏻

[@AndyGSATractor]

@theblackcountrybiker I did a video on on my channel the modules came out a few months after the indicators you have

[@dungbeetle.]

Can't belive BMW have done the same thing on the new 1300 and have done away with the main tail light as well to make things even worse. Crazy.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

It’s Bizarre mate, absolutely baffling the designs they are coming up with. As for the headlight on the new 1300 well I’ve tried to like it but it’s not happening. Some people love it though so each to their own.

[@BrianJohnson-bs9cw]

Really do not like these indicators and the combined break/indicators/ running light feels like a BMW reducing cost and selling it as design

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Totally agree mate

[@nikoscosmos]

The extended warranty is worth it if you take the breakdown road side assistance, covers all of Europe. How did they know that you have fitted the Weisertechnik lights?

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Because I was honest mate when they asked. As they buy them themselves from Mark (Weiser) and sell them in their showrooms naively I didn’t think it would be an issue. Like I say I’m the video being honest isn’t always the best policy. BMW also make the plastics and lenses for them. Weiser put their LED’s in them. Never mind mate you live and learn. Thanks for watching and commenting👍🏻👍🏻 It may be worth sharing it so others know the potential fall out👍🏻👍🏻

[@nikoscosmos]

@theblackcountrybiker the way the warranty works is you take the bike to a dealer with a fault, and he makes a warranty claim on your behalf. If the Weiser mods were material to the failure (extremely unlikely), then the warranty claim may be refused. If you declare stuff to some sales clerk then it's very easy for them with limited knowledge to raise issues.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@nikoscosmos thanks for watching and commenting mate. I was just too honest with Allianz Insurance when enquiring about the extended warranty. Agree with your observation re the sales clerks. No sales clerks were injured in the making of this video😂😂

[@milaabaigar536]

Bmw guarantee is anti customer!I indicator , am thinking of getting Weiser dongles lights for the rear 👍 what it needs is a class action like in the states to state how dangerous the rear lights are. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@theblackcountrybiker]

My latest video on this situation will be put out this week. I totally agree with you.

[@robsonenduro3316]

i don't know how they get road homologation with these silly indicators...

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I found it really odd when they got approval here in the U.K. Normally indicators like this are seen in the USA. As I’ve said many times, one split second of a motorist in a side street looking up and thinking you are indicating to turn then they pull out on you. Very Dangerous

[@MotovlogUK]

Sounds ridiculous that does pal. I think you went past my house lol. Great vid 👍

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Where are you mate? and thanks for your support👍🏻

[@icemodica7118]

I’m in that crowded little island called England.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

It’s beyond crowded mate

[@MotovlogUK]

@@theblackcountrybiker Dudley Pal but I frequent Shropshire a lot

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@MotovlogUK I grew up in Netherton and Dudley👍🏻👍🏻

[@dumptrump3788]

I can't understand how so many people insist that BMWs are "The Best" when they treat customers like this. They're good bikes, albeit very expensive for what you get, but their attitude towards customers is getting almost as bad as Harley dealers. BTW I ride a Yamaha Tracer & I do like these indicators & I'd like to see if I can get them on my bike.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Thanks for the comment mate. I loved my Tracer, a superb bike. I had a 2019 900GT and I’d highly recommend them to everyone but I am blown away with my GS. I think it’s just my local franchise to be honest as I’ve had superb customer service with Bristol Motorrad

[@btcbiker]

Motorrad customer service is rubbish. I have a slightly older bike than you (2018 1200GS), and had a terrible time with BMW's roadside assistance. I made a video about it and posted it on my channel. KZbin holds comments with links in them, so if anyone wants to see it, scroll down my videos, it was one of the first I made. I've just subscribed to your channel channel. 😎

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Thanks for watching, commenting and subbing. I’ll return the favour and get a look at your vids mate👍🏻

[@andypandy4987]

Very soon the GS911 will be able to reduce rear brake light (contained within indicator housing) intensity to as little as 10% - the flashing indicator can now be seen. The rear central light can be coded by the device to operate as brake light - problem solved.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

That’s good news mate👍🏻

[@elithegreat6463]

Not sure what the law is in the UK, but the best way I make myself be seen here in the USA is by simply putting 2 ultra-Bright Strobe lights like those you see on Bicycles to the bars of my Bike, or any creative place to be conspicuous. Just as you mentioned about the Frame rate of your video that makes your lights strobe, if they Strobed like that all the time, intersecting cars, cars pulling out of driveways, will pause and see the ultra Bright Strobes. Amazon sells these for $15-20-$30 bucks depending on the type.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Thanks buddy. I’m not sure to be honest re the permanent strobes on a motorcycle over here. I can make the spots and front indicators strobe by using the flash button three times or hitting the horn (on another video) but not sure about them being on permanent. By the way where are you in the States. I love it over there👍🏻

[@elithegreat6463]

@@theblackcountrybiker I’m in south NJ, Shore area The strobes I use just strap on, they are literally for Bicycles and not a permanent attachment to the Motorcycle. But they are so bright, other cars can’t help but to notice them. Hence, you’ll be seen.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@elithegreat6463 I know the ones you mean mate, I’ve seen them over here. I think the only motorised vehicles that can have them here in the UK are emergency services vehicles and recovery trucks. Great bit of kit though to be seen but as I say if people can’t see me now with the set up I’ve got they shouldn’t be on the road😳 As for your location WOW. One place I’ve not been. I’ve been to the States a few times and love it.

[@elithegreat6463]

@@theblackcountrybiker The issue most all the time is when car drivers say “I didn’t see the Motorcycle” they are actually telling the truth. I’m a retired Police Officer here in USA/NJ and all but not many motorcycle accidents I arrived to, the car simply said, “I didn’t see him” I’m 61 and been riding 40+ yrs, and my 2 present bike are a 2023 Triumph Rocket 3R and 2023 Ducati Monster SP, and when I ride either one, my Strobes get strapped on. Motorcycle heads lights just blend too much into the car lights at times, and all people see are the cars, and not the Bike. So you need something to distinguish your presence, hence the Strobes.

[@derekm6236]

@@theblackcountrybikerI had a pair of cheap Chinese spots on my V-Star and sometimes one would fire up in strobe mode. Got pulled by the police for having a flashing light; just a "get it fixed".

[@JohnTaylor-ee7ee]

The lights are dangerous on the new bikes

[@chrishart8548]

What lights

[@chrishart8548]

Do you mean indicators staying on all the time now on the front.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@chrishart8548 I think he does buddy. I certainly found them dangerous as per the video👍🏻

[@MS-eo6mn]

Hi If have any issues with you GS take it to John Southall Stourbridge motorcycle Centre John and his team are outstanding and authorised for all BMW work Located on Stourbridge Ring Road I would not use anyone else

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I know John very well. I was down there only last month 👍🏻

[@philipparana9225]

Your wrong. The lights are controlled by the bcm. How can bmw warranty parts connected to rhe bcm that are unauthorized. They mess up electrical all over the bcm lin and canbua network.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I don’t think I am wrong as some BMW Motorrad dealerships here actually sell the Weiser indicators in question therefore must surely authorise their use. They fit them exactly the same way. The issue is I had mine fitted by someone else but the kicker is that the guy who owns Weiser and designed them was actually present when mine were fitted.

[@not-this-fartoofar3606]

I understand where you are coming from mate, But to be honest, You made a modification that include electrical safety features (No matter how capable you are), Mine is 4 years old, When I got mine changed BMW fitted them for me and with a new headlamp. Not that expensive. I still have extended warranty with them as I do a lot european touring. I Still think its worth it.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

The guy who fitted mine is a Weiser agent mate and the owner of Weiser was also present. I think it’s down to the fact BMW didn’t make any money from me buddy, they didn’t get their cut. Never mind though it is what it is👍🏻

[@SalopianBivvyman]

Have you tried asking another branch of BMW ?

[@theblackcountrybiker]

If you mean for a warranty buddy, it wasn’t a dealership I spoke to, I received a letter when the bike was nearly 3 years old from BMW themselves offering the warranty. You ring the number on the letter and it’s them who told me to Jog on unless I removed then, let them refit them or buy the same own off them.

[@Tiger800xr]

File a complaint with your government! Tell them bmw is making a dangerous vehicle. Go to the news!! Get a barrister! File a complaint with the eu, corrupt pos!! Dont buy over priced motorcycles anymore!! Reach out to other bmw owners, find those injured because of a dangerous design. I do not know how thry are legal in usa? Because it violates dot regulations in my opinion!!

[@austinmatthews347]

Is the extended warranty £450 for 1 year or 3 year

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Sorry for confusion it’s for 1 year, the bike came with a 3 year manufacturer warranty. So the extended warranty is for 12 months at a cost of: £450 with no excess, £425 with £50 excess or the cheapest is £397 with £100 excess.

[@austinmatthews347]

@@theblackcountrybiker apparently it doesnt cover all that the 3 year warranty covered is that. True also does it include the roadside assistance

[@derekm6236]

@@theblackcountrybikerGlad I bought an Enfield!!!

[@parf2665]

As others have said, vote with your wallet. Never rode a BMW, but they must be special considering the shite customer service and questionable safety and reliability issues 🤔

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I’ve had Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha but it’s the best bike I’ve ever had to be honest but ‘variety is the spice of life’ as ‘they’ say.

[@carlton683]

Hi there is it Robert plant that lives around there

[@theblackcountrybiker]

It is indeed mate👍🏻👍🏻

[@mollyfilms]

3rd party warranty?

[@theblackcountrybiker]

It came from BMW Motorrad UK but I think all insurance companies aren’t who they say they are. I once had insurance with LV on my car and when I contacted them they told me I needed to call Swinton who then in turn informed me I was with Highways Insurance!😳

[@skiddmurks]

simple - walk out of the show room and buy something else. vote with your wallet m8

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Cheers buddy, I’ve always loved the bike, it’s just the after sales that isn’t great but I suppose there’s good dealerships and bad ones.

[@Trevster65]

Too much unreliable electronic tech on bikes these days, manufacturers only allow their own mods to electronics as they have tested those to ensure they work and will not affect the standard electronic system. Aftermarket parts may not have same impedances etc so could upset things like the ecu. Just wish they would charge less for manufacturer upgrades.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@Trevster65 thanks for your comment buddy. To be honest mate, apparently BMW sell the Weiser lights I’ve had put on but they want me to have them fit them. The guy who owns Weiser was actually there when mine were fitted by Steve at ‘A Bike Thing’ and he was happy with the install. It’s just a way for them to make more money of me by me taking it in, have them take them off and put them straight back on. Ridiculous.

[@skiddmurks]

To be honest if you got a certificate from a qualified auto electrician stating that they are correctly installed l. There isn't much they could do. An ombudman would find it difficult to not point in your favour.

[@TheZanshen]

BMW =BM trouble you .

[@icemodica7118]

Simple answer. Buy a Honda!

[@theblackcountrybiker]

Had one.

[@TheZanshen]

Got the Honda vfr 1200x crosstourer and it’s superbly built and a very underrated bike . Does everything and reliable without the unnecessary electronics.

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@TheZanshen nice machine that mate. A pal of mine had the Honda VFR Crossrunner but he only kept it 2 months as he couldn’t get on with it. Nice looking bike. Don’t get me wrong mate my bike is absolutely brilliant, my concern is with the extended warranty and the possibility that other people could be giving BMW an excuse not to repair any issues during the 3 year manufacture warranty

[@TheZanshen]

@@theblackcountrybiker Yes mate. I agree

[@stevenbatley8666]

That's exactly what I did,I've had BMW cars and bikes and every garage I have gone in try and empty your bank account before you get through the doors,I would love them to have Honest dealers,this report is from a time served engine who spent 44years in the motor trade.

[@glyngreenwood8377]

Buy Japanese ! Period

[@theblackcountrybiker]

I’ve had Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha mate, all fantastic bikes but this is the best bike I’ve ever had. Saying that I’m older now and have a back problem so it suits me at this current time👍🏻

[@Banditmanuk]

Those standard BMW lights look unsafe. Puts me off bmw. I will stick with my 8 year old Yamaha, don't need an extended warranty because it's reliable. You certainly make some interesting points

[@theblackcountrybiker]

@@Banditmanuk thanks for commenting mate. Appreciate it👍🏻