Power Queen 12v 300Ah LiFePO4 200A BMS Lithium Battery Review

[@HOBOTECH]

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[@مشتاق-م3ف]

hi sir how did you combine three chargers to charge 12v 300ah power queen battery thanks.

[@HOBOTECH]

You just hook them in parallel.

[@مشتاق-م3ف]

@@HOBOTECH thank you sir👍

[@rommee]

Can we have a video of how you connect or work it alongside a power generator such as Bluetti. Thanks for the note in Watt Hours on screen as it makes for a quicker conversion even though the calc is straight forward it just relates easier to power generators etc. Thanks as always

[@DeFiDuke]

hi are these grade "a" cells? also how can I get a 410ah unit for around $500 here in the USA ? thanks @@HOBOTECH

[@nunyabidness517]

I bought 2 of these almost a year ago. Paid $1300 each. Got one on a camper and one on a sailboat. Stayed off grid for 2 months in camper running down to zero a few times. Charging at 60 amps with solar and generator. Both batteries doing great. Gonna buy a couple more for connex solar stand alone systems.

[@whatta7793]

Look into used Tesla modules from the Tesla cars, they get removed from salvaged/totaled Tesla cars and sold, you can find them with low mileage (barely used). They are 24 volt though, and they're Li-ion instead of LiFePO4. I think you could use a 24v DC to 12v DC step down converter though. So if 24v wouldn't work for your application, that may be an option if you did want to give the cells a try. $700-1000 on eBay, they're 250 ah but 24 volt, so in 12 volt numbers, they'd actually be 500 ah. 5200 wh capacity compared to the Power Queen 300 AH having 3840 wh, so roughly 35.4% more capacity, for very similar (maybe cheaper) price.

[@adamw4469]

Professor Hobo, I think I could safely speak for a lot of viewers in that we'd love to see you do an early 2023 version of a relatively affordable, DIY lithium battery/solar build and testing those components. Maybe something you could start with 100AH battery, that's expandable from there. You're the best, happy new year!

[@HOBOTECH]

I will be doing more DIY in 2023!

[@tumbleweed1976]

@@HOBOTECH ❤🎉😎

[@DeFiDuke]

can someone please do a head to head comparison of all the new 460ah lifepo4 batteries that are coming out? redodo bird, roamer, litime, epoch, basen, VATRER, power drag queen, etc.. thanks in advance! @@HOBOTECH

[@clarencewiles963]

I like your style. This’ll be a great new year to look forward to. I’ve been thinking the equipment is getting better, and prices seem to be competitive and coming down. You’re digging and pointing out issues has been coming back even to vendors replying in your comments we got the fix! Yes you have had stuff bite the dust. But you are showing how, why, when, and how to use. So thanks for your time and effort. Happy New Year, and have a wonderful Christmas 🎄

[@kurtsandy766]

Thank you for all your hard work and reviews! It is difficult when some of these products hit back (I heard you say ouch after the power queen hit back)! I love the Solar Degenerator with the original Power Queen herself, Dom Deluise! Enjoy your vacation with your friends, you really deserve the time off after all your work this year! Merry Christmas and Happy Ho Ho Hugs!

[@mickeybrumfield764]

The Power Queen people are starting to make quite a name for themselves producing such a quality product at a good price. In the Life PO4 business looks like they are giving the Battle Born people a run for their money.

[@J.D_7]

Intro + outro + music = Love it all :) Happy holidays HoboTech. Wish you and family an amazing time and thank you for the work you put into reviews.

[@johnhuff393]

Good morning from Godley Texas, I love your reviews even though I don't purchase a lot of the products. However, I did your no drill solar INSTALL. It's still holding up. Merry Christmas 🎄⛄🎄

[@Oceangirl326]

Merry Christmas Hobo! Have a great vacation.

[@powerqueenbattery]

Thank you HOBOTECH. Merry Christmas everyone!🎅

[@thesilversliver5728]

Happy Holidays Hobo. Have a great time on your vacation.

[@greensavant2573]

@ 1:56 I was waiting for the cat scene, but then realized that you would not want to play that in front of Odin!

[@jfh400]

Merry Christmas, Professor! Have a great trip, see you in March!

[@pdieppa]

Great to see the old intro. Awesome way to start the video.

[@jw3843]

Have a Merry Christmas and enjoy the vacation.

[@shlomoaziz411]

thank you for the best Review on KZbin 😀

[@737smartin]

GREAT product, deal, and review. Merry Christmas to us! 🎅 Was curious about the size and weight. Found the second photo at the link Proff HOBO shows this info at the bottom. It shows roughly 63 lbs and 10.6 x 20.5 x 8.7 inches... in case anyone else is wondering.

[@HOBOTECH]

Was mentioned in the first two minutes...

[@737smartin]

@@HOBOTECH ...@ 0:46 to be precise. Thanks. I didn't note it in my first watch, and my "skipping search" review failed me.

[@davelamont]

That is one impressive battery. Merry Christmas and enjoy your vacation time

[@weswalker1208]

Glad you mentioned that at the end of the video looking forward to it. I'm one of those four hour live stream followers. Countdown to naked twister. LOL

[@TheGodSchema]

I like your physical battery test too (when you smacked it)

[@jedics1]

Great to see these plug and play options becoming cheaper but its still about 30% cheaper to buy your own prismatic cells and put a single bms on the lot, more compact as well. I guess it might be worth the extra money because it opens up your charger options....

[@steventripp4530]

Thanks for the knowledge. I just bought 2 lithium batteries 24v and ran them down to nothing . And your right jump started with a 24v battery and they are going fine again .

[@Zero-sm8oi]

hahahaha i just love ur vids. A small time ago i bought a powerqueen 12.8v 50ah lifepo4 battery to expand my capacity from my bluetti eb70 :) Please keep the silly intro, i just love it and it just gives this channel a really special feeling haha! Have a wonderful Christmas

[@FlamingLlama2024]

Love your work Professor, have a Merry Christmas, an Awesome New Year and a great vacation. Looking forward to you new 2023 reviews!

[@robhebbs7960]

Thanks for all the hard work keeping us informed on batteries and power stations Hobo. Looking forward to the products for 2023. Hope to see you in Quartzite in january.

[@loucinci3922]

Thank you for all your hard work and reviews! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

[@jonathanomgitsme]

Thank you for all of these assessments...and Devil Doll.

[@barrow_me]

Thanks for your hard work and for the entertainment. Love your channel! Cheers, m8!

[@JayAreGarcia]

MERRY CHRISTMAS HOBOTECH stay safe.

[@VincentsfamilyCali]

300AH is perfect for van life ,,, thanks PROF

[@dcw626364]

You do a great job Prof! Any type of opening or closing you use is OK with me. As long as you are there I will be there. Enjoy your vacation. We only go around once. Over the last five years I have been made abundantly aware of that!

[@skroggy66]

Thanks for the promo code, just ordered the 2 pack. Can't wait to replace the deep cell battery in my camper with these bad boys.

[@tpaw6908]

Merry Christmas 🎄 be safe stay warm. Have a great day. Thanks for all your videos.

[@garrycastaldi9806]

Merry Christmas & have a happy New Year..enjoy your camping trip see in March

[@62maineman]

Love the intro ( and the videos)

[@Solar2go]

I just now got to view this. A tree fell and took out all of our utilities, including our Internet, in below zero actual temps. We used our Bluetti AC200P to run our pellet stove overnight for 10 hours and a Predator 7250/9000 watt generator to recharge the AC200 and 2 EB3As, run the well pump, septic sand mound dosing pump, pellet stove, radon exhaust blower fan and refrigerator during the day. We don't have solar set up yet.

[@johnsouthern6089]

Love the hectic music for ah test. Keep the blood pressure up.

[@Tommyr]

Have a good holiday Tom and yes, I like the intro just fine! And outro. Odin rules!

[@sromo522]

Just bought one battery, Happy New Year😎

[@Sylvain3342]

Nice review! The Indiana Jones saint graal gorgeous 😇! I have a 300Ah Zooms that is probably the same and I love it!

[@psyamok3735]

Just curious why they omit the heat feature for this 300A. Also I'm concern about the ability of its BMS. All the way up to 490A before it shut off seems like its ability to BM is questionable? All said, the price is pretty good.

[@thomasg4324]

*Since I regenerate my lead/acid batteries...I have been using the same batteries for 12.5 years now, and still going strong.* Lead/acid is not dead.

[@jeffsecules184]

I’ve got several SLA 12v 100ah batteries that are fully dead. How do you regenerate the lead/acid?

[@thomasg4324]

@@jeffsecules184 1) Stick welder machine 2) pure water 3) temperature probe w/ digital on/off display *It's far too much to explain here, but basically the plates need to be renewed by desulfating them with high current, and the water is to replace the water lost to evaporation. The temp probe is used to stop current when the system gets too hot, and then start again when it cools sufficiently to maintain at least 5 minute regen intervals (which depends on ambient temps-too hot and the system temp will rocket up too quickly) until current draws increase without temp spikes. Then it's done.* I use my batteries quite hard/often so I regen every 2 months or so. But most systems will probably only need it once a year. LOOKUP ON KZbin....there are a lot of videos.

[@thefpvlife7785]

They should have put the “plus” name on it as to inform consumer’s better.

[@avlisk]

Speaking of "changing gears in the new year", I'm looking forward to more transmission repair videos. I miss them.

[@HOBOTECH]

Very funny Dr. Jones. I don't drive the van anymore. It's going up for sale.

[@billy-go9kx]

The intro is so-so, it is short though. What I can't figure out is why I watch all the way to the end of every episode. Must be HypnoTech.

[@grindychum]

ODIN COMMANDS YOU TO LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE

[@onthelake9554]

ALL batteries can be put in an unlimited parallel as long as you use a bus bar and independent cables to the bus bar .

[@parkerazz4385]

Would absolutely get one for my split system in my RV to run from the battery isolater and be charged by me alternator

[@honeybadgerbob9427]

Merry CHRISTmas!

[@RollinHomies]

I just bought two of these for $751 ea. Prices are finally coming down on things. Cant waiting to see what prices look like in 5-10 years

[@davidkilbourne5422]

Merry Christmas!

[@NeoVdV]

Info on how to program your MPPT for this battery and battery shunt monitor. I use the EpEver TracerAN mppt and a Juntec battery monitor with 400A shunt. I have 5x 150Wp solar panels feeding the battery to a 2500W inverter 12V DC to 220V AC Overvoltage protection: 15V Undervoltage protection: 10.8V Discharging overcurrent protection: 200A Charging overcurrent protection: 200A Overpower protection: 2560W Over temp protection: 50C Low temp protection: 5C Low capacity reminder: 10% Protection recover time: 180s Protection delay: 5s Over voltage: 15V Charge limit: 14.8V Over Voltage Reconnect 14.2V Equalize voltage: Disable Boost voltage: 14.6V Float Voltage: 13.8V Boost reconnect: 13.5V Low Voltage Reconnect 12.4 Under Voltage Recover 12V Under Voltage Warning 11.6V Low Voltage Disconnect 10.8V Discharge limit: 10V

[@knightsun]

I’m going to quartzite sometime in January, hope to meet you!

[@stevenfaber3896]

9:15 - yinz alright? and also, where's the ol' RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR V joke when you're giving "drop in"

[@williamkreth]

Seems like a decent battery

[@DeliberateNRandom]

For lead acid batteries, it could cost more over the years, especially if you include average inflation rate.

[@Oblivionsurveyor]

Not all BMS are built equal but these new lithium seem to be very nice.

[@treysuniverserv1576]

Tom, are you traveling any longer? We will be in Quartzsite in January.

[@HOBOTECH]

I travel all the time. I just don't make videos about it.

[@danielnicholls6868]

any thing on firefly batteries for cold use

[@jimdaly5077]

Happy Christmas 🎅🐝🎄🐈‍⬛

[@Cabernet2000]

What am struggling with the WFCO converter people telling me that I need their lithium version for my 50 amp class A. I have 4 6volt batteries now. I want to buy this battery. It meets my needs. Many more people would buy these as WFCO has 80%of RV class A market.

[@jianntynglu4429]

PowerQueen: Bring it on.

[@nerkymusselman8843]

how can this be combined with an ecoflow delta pro?

[@junkerzn7312]

Its actually a bit scary that the thing is allowing you to pull 440A through it for more than a few seconds. I would consider that a fire hazard. Even though the BMS has thermal protection, a BMS only rated at 200A that is shutting down at 450A+ has a real risk of blowing up its MOSFETs. Or for some of its internal wiring to overheat/melt without the temperature sensors detecting it. And the sizing of the cables connected to the battery could present a problem too. The BMS firmware just shouldn't allow that kind of current to be pulled. If it is spec'd at 200A then it should shutdown at 210A or 220A if held for more than a few seconds.

[@HOBOTECH]

All batteries of this style allow around double the amps for a period of time. Watch my other reviews. The fact it shut down at 490A and overheated at 450A means the failsafe is working.

[@MorleyRigged]

I wonder if the Power Queen 12V 200Ah PLUS LiFePO4 has the same BMS. It is also 200amp

[@NeoVdV]

Why buy the Smart 100Ah version over the non smart ? Certainly when 100,ooEur difference. And makes it sense when putting two in parallel ?

[@dogzdad123]

Professor: Safe journey to Quartzsite next month. Happy Holidays and a Happy 2023! BTW: What is a good food pairing with Saurian Brandy?

[@HOBOTECH]

Goes great with Gagh 😆

[@dogzdad123]

@@HOBOTECH QaPla!

[@stephaniez2]

Merry Christmas 🎄 Love your videos. Hope you have a great Vay-kay. Do you have a video on Lithium battery solar builds ?

[@HOBOTECH]

Not yet.

[@Sylvan_dB]

Wow, I'm impressed.

[@michaelcoghlan9124]

Thank you. M

[@Forevertrue]

Have a great vacate Mr. Tech!!! See you then.

[@benjsuth]

Professor Hobo, can I use these LiFePo4 batteries as a battery back up system in my garage in the heat of Florida? My garage gets up to 100 degrees in the summer. Or can I store them in the house and use them safely? Thanks for all that you do.

[@HOBOTECH]

Yep

[@DeFiDuke]

we want DOUBLE FISTED

[@tomdemeo2708]

What is the best way to use these two charge or add power to a solar generator like EcoFlow DC input? Or solar

[@willieiso118]

These appear to be Ampere Time / LiTime clones i bought two of the Ampere Time 300 ah earlier this year and except for color these appear to be 100% identical.....

[@m9ovich785]

I've been wondering about that too. Since he has reviewed those Batteries as well, I was gonna ask him what His Preference would be ? Mike M.

[@michaeledge8905]

Do these batteries degrade over time in storage if they are not used like a lead acid battery does?

[@HOBOTECH]

No. You are supposed to charge them once a year but I have some going on 2 years without charging that are fine.

[@aaronmiller6972]

Enjoy your stick or should I say creativeness. I definitely love your outro on your videos. I've been known to mimic a few of your lines and chuckle away. ( I know what to do ! ) BLOW UP YOUR COMMENTS!

[@carwinthompson2108]

I noticed you were charging the battery with 3 charge controllers. ? Can you charge a lith phosphate battery with a 40a mppt and a 80a non mppt charge controller together for a total of 120a of charge capacity?

[@timhardman4764]

I noticed you mentioned that you could connect this battery to the AC200Max to extend the run time of the AC200Max. Other than the obvious differences of battery sizes between the PowerQueen and the B230 Bluetti battery, AND the convenient 12v outputs on the Bluetti B230 Battery, once either of these batteries is plugged into the AC200max, will they both operate identically with the AC200max or will there be a performance difference during usage with a high load single induction burner due to the different voltages of the PoweQeen v. the expansion Bluetti B230 battery? Is the PowerQueen only good for recharging the AC200max battery when the AC200 is not in use or is it able to extend run time during the AC200max usage in the exact same way as if the B230 was hooked up to the AC200max? I need extended wattage for my AC200max but I don't need the convenient 12v ports of the B230 and the much higher price per watt. Thanks in advance for your comment and enjoy your vacation in AZ.

[@NeoVdV]

I hope someone can help me here. Yesterday I finally got my solar system in order. I got my new battery, Power Queen lithium 12V 300Ah, and it took 15h to get it fully charged and ready. My system is composed of 5x 150Wp solar panels, 3 in parallel to an EpEver Tracer mppt, and 2 other in parallel to an identical mppt. Each come in to their mppt via a 30A automatic fuse. The output of both mppt come together on a bus bar and go from there to the battery and also to a 2500W converter to 12to220V. I have a battery switch on the plus from the battery to the bus bar. Both mppt are set for Lithium. My battery has a 200A BMS with under/over voltage protection. The converter also has protection for over voltage. Over voltage of the BMS is 15V, over voltage of the converter is also fix set at 15V and the mppt is standard 14,8V as over voltage. Now my problem ... The converter goes regularly in over voltage alarm and sometimes total shut off. When a regular alarm occurs the system is shut off for a few seconds, but sometimes it goes into error and then the system shuts off and only can be turned on again by physically turn off the switch on the converter, wait about 30sec and put to switch back to on. But even with a regular alarm, buzzer, the system turns off for a few seconds, meaning that it can be a dangerous situation ... when my pellet stove is on and is cut off when enough pellets are burning, there is no fan for exhaust and I already found myself inside a room full of smoke and fire alarm yelling. Also each time my router turns off and needs to go to a boot up sequence, meaning my internet in down for about 7min. Etc. ... What can I do to make that the voltage stays below the over voltage value ? I first was thinking to put the Victron battery protect module but that would be an overkill and would not help as it would shut down my system as well. Plus I already have protection for over voltage due to the BMS and the converter protections. I had the Juntec battery monitor, 2023 model, but need to return it as it doesn't work, not on my Samsung tablet nor on my iPhone. I ordered the Victron smart shunt and hope to install it tomorrow.

[@deeprootslandscaping4499]

Interesting. Newbie here, I know you mentioned it can be used with sogens. Now how can I charge this with solar? also how do I plug it into my ac200max? Great Channel I'm learning lots. Thank you

[@davidhowell7279]

Interesting query. I'm a newbie as well. Here's my understanding so far. A "sogen" doesn't generate anything. It has a battery in it just like the one in the video (possibly different chemistry, size, yada yada yada). Your "sogen" has a built-in mppt which allows you to run solar panels directly to it. In order to charge a battery such as this one, you would essentially need to build your own "sogen" by getting a mppt /charge controller (plus a few extra bits) and an inverter. At that point you would plug your "sogen" into the inverter and charge it through the a/c input( or get some kind of 12 volt adapter to charge your "sogen" from the battery through the d/c input). Your "sogen" is merely a power storage device that is complete with all of the goodies put together in one package. Or, I suppose you could run your solar panels to your "sogen", plug a battery charger into its a/c outlet and charge the battery that way but, what would be the point of that? A "sogen" makes it easier for people that want/need an easier and generally portable all in one system. The easiest way to add capacity to an already existing "sogen" is to get one that has parallel capability. Either that or just get a massive "sogen" with a handle and wheels. I live in the pacific northwest so, I plan on getting a "sogen" and a propane generator to augment my solar power system on the dark, dank, dismal days of winter. Probably the Zendure 2000 featured in one of the professor's videos. Anyways, hopefully someone with real world experience will jump in and correct me or fill in the blanks. Professor?

[@neilv6754]

Great video professor sir. I currently have a 2,500 watt inverter. I could still buy this battery and use it as a power source for it correct? Thanks for your videos. Great job.

[@HOBOTECH]

Yes

[@antoniovizoso2584]

Hello, which IS better redodo or power Queen?

[@RelaxObserveAcceptPatience]

Don't change a thing! You are golden.

[@dig1035]

Thumbs up and subscribed!

[@SetitesTechAdventures]

These things are interesting though I don't think I'll ever get one. Though with them being cheaper than a server rack buying 4 of these might be in my future. I still like the form factor of a server rack and the communication. I know some of them have bluetooth BMSes so I wonder if they will ever have UART. I see they make server racks for 48V so I guess even they acknowledge this form factor doesn't make sense at 48V. Weirdly they have a 90AH that says is 51.2V and 100AH says its 48V. The difference of 10AH and 10A on the BMS costs 36% more, wow.

[@buckreynolds1779]

Proffesor Hobo it's me your friend Buck. Merry Christmas !! I'm the guy that was abducted and examined by Aliens. I'm still seeing a therapist 3 years later.

[@FRZNTYM1]

Quick question. Why does it say 12.8V on the side of the case? I thought these batteries were rated @13.4V or something like that.

[@HOBOTECH]

12.8v is the nominal voltage

[@FRZNTYM1]

@@HOBOTECH Thanks 👍

[@majorhavoc9693]

On their website they say that the final tax will be determined AFTER the order is placed. Sorry, I don't do business that way. Give me the total at point of sale or I find someone who will. Also, the warranty is pro-rated.

[@yesilbursa]

Hobo doing god's work

[@flynnstone3580]

Impressive results, but new Sodium Ion batteries are coming out. For that kind of money I'll see what they have.

[@HOBOTECH]

Sodium batteries have flaws including a short cycle life. They won't replace LiFePO4.

[@Wroseman]

Thanks!

[@HOBOTECH]

Thank you

[@Cabernet2000]

Can you test the WFCO converter and how it interacts with the 300 amp Lithium batteries. So much confusion here and it it a real task for many to change out the converter. I thru my hands up last week with the thought of moving all the wires and if wires are compatible.

[@HOBOTECH]

I have a WFCO converter in my RV with 300Ah lithium it works fine.

[@Cabernet2000]

@@HOBOTECH I have a model WF 9855 and say output at 13.6. You mention in the PQ 300 ah video that your converter needs to be able to charge at 14.2 or 14.4. I totally believe yours is fine. Does this mean it would just charge slower and it’s probably ok to just drop it in? Thank you for your response. Sorry to have to ask.

[@padywac1970]

I just want to run a trolling motor on the lake all day….would this battery last 12 hours on a 55lb thrust trolling motor?

[@HOBOTECH]

Do an energy audit and find out.

[@Foxfire_Pony]

Is this the Holy Grail of batteries?

[@Orionzdream]

Can I use this to recharge my Ac200p with the battery clips? Have fun on your trip brother.

[@HOBOTECH]

Yep!

[@blueworld25]

Hello sir! I have a Question and sorry about my ignorance but can I swapped a 12v 17ah battery on a power station for one of those 300ah?

[@aubreyj.tennant1123]

8:25 Help Hobotech, I’m 70 and even though my personal batteries are close to their best before - I’m new to this scene and heard you mention here that this 300ah could be used as a starter bat. with the risk of shortening the BMS life. My question is; can I replace my starter and leisure battery with one of these using a quality DC - DC charger? Or is there other info needed to pull it off? If possible, I’d be able to save major space. My vintage RV has a 2.8L 4 cyl. diesel engine. 1 Battery to rule them all! Ha ha!

[@dxpatrol]

Grate batter but looks like only in the U.S.A shame. I have watched your bluetti clips I was thinking a full set up in my ute canopy then run to the caravan with a lead using solar on roof of canopy and car witch is better the A300 or the 5000 bluetti with 1 extra battery and how long would it rin the hole caravan with air con going thanks phil

[@antoniovizoso2584]

What do you think about eco worthy 12/280ah?

[@turdboman]

Dear professor, I'm getting a 2023 motor coach. It has 1 200 watt solar panel, a 1000 watt inverter , a dual controller what ever that is and 2 100 AH AGM batteries. I plan to up grade the inverter to 2000 or 3000 but initially would like to upgrade to a 200 or 300 AH lithium battery, did I understand you saying I could just drop a lithium in with my current equipment ?

[@DaveHoltzman]

my setup closely matches yours. I'm in a van with 2 160 watt panels on my roof. I was just wondering myself if this battery is overkill or not. obviously my solar panels will take about a week to fully charge the battery at least that's my guessing estimate. anyways I'll likely call up a solar expert and ask them to do the install for me if they think it's going to work alright. the only mystery i'm left with at the moment is am I spending more money then I need to spend.