Power Station not running your diesel heater?? Here's a quick fix that WORKS!

[@saowo7105]

My ecoflow just burned my hydronic heating system D5E costing me alot to fix so thanks to this video I now know what to do 🙏 really greatful.

[@hh0676]

Hey thanks for posting this vid as I made sure to buy a 300W 12 VDC IP 67 LED supply with single string output and it ran with no problems sure many 12 VDC Power Station units do not have the juice for startup sequences! Also buying a big UPS to avoid power outage conditions with enough energy to support proper shutdown sequence and also handle my computer equipment!

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@hh0676]

@@BrianWatersOutdoors Hey tnx for ur vid!!! BTW was looking instead at a small-ish Power Station with 20 ms UPS but more backup juice and LiFePO4 long life batteries instead of UPS with 5-10 ms switchover but weak/heavy/short life lead acid. Obviously do not want that shut down due to power outage to damage unit right? Not sure of course if it wont shut down even with the 20 ms switchover, any thoughts?

[@tracygiesker9703]

I purchased a AC to DC converter 15A 110-220v car cigarette lighter socket power adapter. I use it to run my Webastco 2000 diesel heater . Works great

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

That would be a good option too

[@not_sure...]

I was wondering if that would work. Always seemed like the most straightforward solution but I've seen people get creative like this video and I just figured I'm dumb and the AC to DC converter wouldn't work. Glad to know it does.

[@DirectorCM]

This is going to blow your mind but -- find yourself an old laptop adapter for like $4, the kind with the large brick in the center. Works like a charm. That's what I've been using to run my heater for about 3yrs now. Just make sure the input is 100~240V and the output is 12v 15A

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I’ve got to have one of those stashed away in my electronics junk drawer!😂

[@boonies2158]

Same problem here. What’s strange is my eb3a will run my hcalory diesel heater but my larger Bluetti will not run it the off cigarette style plug in. Thx for this knowledge. I was going to send my eb70s back because off this problem.

[@farfetchedcat]

what kind of power draw do you get from this?

[@clarencewiles963]

The 12v outlet is the issue at 10amps max. In trucking we needed to go to the battery 🔋 directly.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Yeah. I do have a few larger generators that have a 20amp output, but I don’t want to have to lug around one of those big power stations.

[@clarencewiles963]

@@BrianWatersOutdoors I was just watching Minute Man Prep and he’s got a Oupes Mega 2 review going on and it has a 12v 30 amp Anderson connector.

[@Steve-Goff]

This man is out here doing reviews in his pajamas. That’s dedication folks. LOL. Sounds like the LED power supply is going to work out for you

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Lololol. Dedication Steve, dedication😂

[@ChristopherSeaDawg]

After watching your video, I bought the same converter you have. Works great. Thank you. And if I loose power, I have a Jackery 1500 for power. Very pleased!

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Awesome👍🏻👍🏻

[@hh0676]

Bought similar unit any idea if ur Jackery can switchover in time to avoid inadvertent shut down 20 ms response time vs UPS 5-10 ms???

[@pt4826]

Great info! I melted my cord trying to run a diesel heater off the 12v cigarette port. luckily no damage to my bluetti. This is what I needed. Thank you! N. FL

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@mikevictor5945]

It says in book do not hook up to them

[@elsewhereoverland]

As others have stated, I just use an old laptop adapter, 12V 15A output runs mine just fine. Same thing can be purchased on Amazon with the cigarette adapter plug already on it for like $25...but that was a new discovery for me too. Such a good idea.

[@vegvisiroverland]

The problem is the 12v cig plugs in these power stations tend to be limited to 10a, not 15.

[@jasonbroom7147]

Some of the newer portable power stations have a 20-amp Anderson DC output that is perfect for running one of these diesel heaters. As you saw, they draw 15 amps or more, while heating up the glow plug. We use one to keep my wife's she-shed toasty while she makes amazing stained glass art. :)

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@seymourwrasse3321]

the 250 watt power supply should handle 20 amps, the heater will draw close to 11 amps until the glow plug does it's thing. people need to be concerned with amps, not watts

[@RustyMisterTwo]

Which one? I can’t seem to find one.

[@TheHammstead]

Hey Brian, my AC 180 wouldn’t run my 5watt heater as well. Ordered the driver I received today and works perfectly!! Thank you sir!

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Glad it helped👍🏻👍🏻

[@malcolmneal3857]

Like this info!! On another note… I was looking through facebook marketplace today. Your little trailer you sold is back on the market minus the tent. I showed a friend the pictures and your video also. We could not believe it was being resold so quick!!it is in south Houston

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

lol, yeah, the buyer told me he wasn’t going to use the trailer and would sell it when he got home (Houston).

[@RobertStroupe]

Good job. Hopefully the new setup will work out for you in the long run! Thanks for the update!

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@PNWfishing13]

Thank you! This worked on my vevor with my jackery 300 plus

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@bernelnery2191]

My Ecoflow River Max can run your heater using the 12v socket. I have the 5kw Hcalory. I'm shock why your startup goes above 200w. Mine does just around 160w and then when stable goes 10w-30w , so people using laptop and ac-dc converter is a great idea but I dont need it with Ecoflow River Max 2

[@retnav92]

A bit confused. I've watched numerous YT videos of folks using the diesel heaters for camping, and this is a first concerning the additional piece you're showing. Just recently bought a Vevor 8w vertical model diesel heater, but have yet to test it. Won't be using it until late March/early Spring chilly nights next season (2024). My plan is to simultaneously heat a Hiker Trailer and a roof top tent, via a wye connector hooked to hoses. Power source will either be EF Delta 2, or a Jackery 1500. Maybe I need to run a test way before next season. 🤔

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

All depends on your heater really. I’ve seen some people able to use the 10amp cigarette 12v output on a power station and it starts the heater fine. I’ve also seen (and in my case) my heater pulls way more than 10amps and it trips out the power station. Probably a 2kw or a 5kw heater would maybe be fine, but as tested, this heater got up to around a max of 250 watts being pulled to get the blowing warm.

[@retnav92]

@@BrianWatersOutdoors 👍

[@paulheavisides9764]

Thanks for your video,I know I can use a bluetti to power a diesel heater from the AC socket and use the 12v for my fridge and leds etc. Great information

[@matpars]

Glad I found this video. I have the same heater but an Ecoflow River Pro battery and will not start the heater. So I'm going to have to sell the Hcalory because it pulls an insane amount of watts up front and find something else that uses less power. I really want to utilize the efficiency of the 12 volt. I only get one night with the AC to DC converter.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@soniayoung7531]

Heyy Brian, hope everything works out well, stay safe

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Thanks Sonia👍🏻

[@JT4X4OFFROADING]

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. Now I know I’m gonna have to get an AC to DC converter regardless. It’s impossible to find a DC output that’s over 15 A.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@Venumundo]

I ran into the same issue with my eco flow delta with the same heater. Thanks for the video! I just purchased that converter that you mentioned and hopefully it will work like yours.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@whankin2]

New converter work for you?

[@jasonpond7866]

My eco flow powered my 8KW last winter via 12 V DC no problem. This year it trips. Can anyone explain this??

[@esiebert7625]

The Hcalory SS2 model which is only about $30 more than the HC-A01 comes with both AC and DC power adapters. It also has a bigger/internal fuel tank as well, its hard to find available online though.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I’m waiting for that model too, it looks nice. But they are waiting to get it back in stock and I’ll probably switch over to that

[@billcashman4006]

I have the SS2 as well. It heats great. Only thing I don’t like is that if you accidentally spill fuel on the outside of the tank, you will smell it when it heats up as the intake for the air is inside the box. I’m trying to figure a way to seal the intake to the box to keep the smell out… otherwise it is great.

[@MISCIFMAKER]

Same use 2000 w invertor , as start up n once running swith to cig plug . To run a fridfe n heater all nt 15 plus hrs in winter

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

My unit won’t allow a “hot start” it immediately shuts down once power is removed

[@campingman2156]

I just purchased a power supply off Amazon for $20. 30a 360v. Haven’t hooked it up to my diesel heater yet but hopefully it works! I did notice some people are having luck with Ecoflo but my Bluetti sure ain’t working

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@whankin2]

Did it work?

[@matthewsoutdooradv]

Good idea. I was wondering how you where going to set up to solar charge, both the battery bank and the stand alone 12v battery. Great Video as always!

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I’ll have a 200 watt solar panel on my rooftop tent I will use. In all reality though, I’ll just keep the batteries topped off when I get home.

[@jackatkinson9432]

LEGEND

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@mrp55net]

The AC200 MAX has a 30A 12V DC plug. You could run a 12V four -circuit fuse block from it and power your heater and lights from it. If you still have your Bluetti AC200 MAX.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I do still have it, it’s just quite a bit bigger/heavier. I like the size of this ac180

[@mrp55net]

@@BrianWatersOutdoors The AC180 is a great power station for its size. Perfect for weekend trips.

[@bobbailey7024]

The variation in the wattage is probably in the inverter. The glow plug has a fixed minimum resistance which it should draw about 10amps at 12 Volts (120W) which increases, thus reducing the current, as the glow plug heats up. There's no way the current draw / wattage should vary like that in the glow plug. If you hang an ammeter in series with the power lead into the heater, that will tell you the current draw then multiply that by the voltage to get the watts.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Good info👍🏻 thanks

[@Wyo_Roadhunter]

Mine did the same thing. After it tripped un plugged the heater plugged it right back in and started right up.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@steddyk]

I power my 8kw diesel heater with the cigarette lighter plug no my Jackery 500 with no issues.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@mikechrn]

Had the same issue with my bluetti eb70s. So I ordered a 600w 12v power supply. The power supply itself through ac loss is about 100w. Running its like 135w. I have the same heater btw. I might need to look at your power solution hack. ❤

[@929cbr_rr]

This is an interesting experiment Brian. It may be educational to see what happens when the ambient temp is much lower. As you know, diesel is harder to vaporize at lower temps, as well as the fact the battery powersource becomes less efficient the colder it gets. The result might be the current draw being greater for a longer period ?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

All very true George. I don’t typically experience the super cold temps though here in the south that you’d see up north, but cold temps and batteries don’t really play well together

[@outdoors-with-Den]

Just the info I needed! Thanks

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@alaskalogcabinyoga7050]

I ordered the same converter- the second time I used it the converter stopped working and we could smell burn wires. I have an Anker 2000 and an electrician said I needed a converted that had input of more amps

[@t.d.harris1311]

Hey Brian have tried charging your ac180 with a generator, Iv'e read some post that states some of the Bluetti power stations don't like generator supplied power.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I have not, but if I were to use a generator I’d probably turn down the charge rate on the Bluetti so it doesn’t stress the generator (depending on the size of the generator).

[@scottmacphee8563]

I am new to this game, but just wondering if you could hook directly to the car’s battery - run the car while the glow plugs are firing up and then shut the car down and switch to your portable battery for the remainder of your night when the heater is drawing so little. Easier than lugging another battery along and less expensive than sizing up equipment for the initial warm up… thoughts?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Probably not. Those are typically only 10amps or 120 watts. Same as this power station

[@jodeyschmiedekamp3070]

I have a question at about 4 minutes and 35 seconds what is that smoke or fog coming out from underneath your Ryobi powered fan?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Yeah, that’s the smoke generated from the diesel heater after it shut down due to the battery tripping off. It was coming out of the air intake which was near that fan. This is why you always let the heater cycle down when you shut it down so it can properly expel all of that smoke and burn it off

[@CainSample]

I have the same heater with Bluetooth n max it pulls starting is 156watts with cig outlet on my cellpowa1000 ....not sure why yours pulls 224watts...something is off there...i used both cig outlet n my inverter ac to dc.....

[@andyherod653]

Really annoying that may 2k power station won’t start up a diesel heater. One of the top 5 reasons I bought it …

[@echyadventures]

I could be wrong, but I think Hcalory just came out with an AC adapter.

[@enislive]

How many amps were the Anderson connections you used?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Rated at 30 amps

[@patrickvernon4766]

The power bank is rated for something like 10 amps but the heater takes a surge 15 amp draw. I wonder if the inverter lowered that amp draw?

[@shawnsullivan9986]

Hi Brian! You mentioned your main channel. Do you have another one?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

lol, this is my main channel. I have a 2nd smaller “review” channel I originally thought I’d post this video to. That channel is @geargadgetreviews

[@johnny555]

What is the efficiency of that? You're going from DC to AC then BACK to DC, the current draw will be higher than actual. You need to measure the amperage used in line at the heater. I've never seen it pass 11A. 12V x 11A = 132W. I have an xBox 360 S (135W) power adapter running mine. It for sure draws 200W at the AC outlet when maxed out. So even when a battery would run fine, the conversion from DC-AC-DC is costly.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I understand the dc to ac back to dc conversion loss. If I want to use this specific heater this is the only way to with this power station.

[@1decee]

The link to the LED driver is to a 200W unit not 250W

[@malcolmfarmer2006]

Hello how about an update on this how it worked for ur next camping trip did the 250watt one get hot after a while im looking at a 300watt one but just want to see how urs was doing befor i buy one

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Used it twice and it worked well. 👍🏻

[@czemeres13]

I had the same problem

[@ii1825]

What is the smoke coming from that starts at 4:37?

[@ADW4RNR]

Brian, I have the same heater and Bluetti. Was the heater throwing an “E-03” error when trying to use the DC plug?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I don’t recall the error code, I just know it wouldn’t get the heater past startup phase

[@RoadtrekRich]

Question. How many amps @ 12 volts does the Hcalory heater draw when using the 12 volt battery? Have you measured the amperage the Hcalory draws when using a 12 volt battery? If it draws around the normal amperage, that seems to be between > 10 and < 12 amps, the rating of the converter some heaters now include, a 110 AC to 12 V 12 amp DC converter of that rating. What is responsible for approximately double the amperage you observed being used by this particular Hcalory heater? I think you said you observed a wattage of 240W which would equal approximately 24 amps @ 12 volts during the startup phase. That 24 amp draw seems very high.

[@stevepruet1409]

What is that coming out from underneath the Ryobi fan on the floor at 4:33

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

It’s smoke coming back out the air intake after the heater died. That’s why you always let these heaters cycle off fully when you shut them down so that smoke will burn off during the cool down process.

[@danielgray7305]

Hey bro, i just ordered the 250watt transformer for my new hcalory diesel heater. Its all on its way. What gauge Anderson plugs did you buy for the wires? Im new to this snd theres so many sizes. Thanks.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I use the 30amp Andersons. Those are more than enough for this

[@lioneltsosie2915]

My Ecoflow river pro has been working for us for the last 3 years. Once I recall it shutting down during start up but unplugged and replugged it worked fine. Must’ve been lucky i guess. I also have the same heater as you I think. Hcalory right?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

That’s only a 10amp output too, so I don’t know. Maybe it’s a diff model HCALORY?

[@lioneltsosie2915]

@@BrianWatersOutdoors wish there was a way to attach a photo of the Heater with the Ecoflow. Oh well. Best of luck. Cant wait for more adventures. Winter is going by fast!

[@277mitchell]

I would have gotten at least a 300 w driver!

[@bradleyclark4900]

Have you thought about making a utility trailer tiny house you can pull behind your truck. I've seen videos where they have a bed, sink, stove, A/C, heater(diesel heater), portable toilet, etc. #brianwatersoutdoors

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I did build a 5x10 camper a few years ago (no plumbing though) that I loved. Family just outgrew it but I have a lot of videos on the build on my channel👍🏻

[@patrickvernon4766]

What should my Anderson connectors be rated for?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

You can use the 30amp or even the 45amp Andersons

[@tonyadams09]

What is the better brand and medel number of diesel heaters to use camping

[@pham_777]

Just purchased this heater last week and have the same power station and didnt even take this into consideration. Random find scrolling through your videos, but thanks for this. How is this working out for you so far? Have you changed your diesel heater setup since this? Thanks

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

I used this setup multiple times last winter with the truck and worked just great. i did forget the converter and got stuck without heat for a trip, so that's the only downfall....I now pack this converter in with the heater so i don't forget it.

[@arrianyveswheeler8151]

Thank you. Can I hook the non AC end directly up to the positive and negative terminals on my deisel heater? Mind doesn't have a plug, just two terminals that you screw down. Will this work?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Yes. That is how most diesel heaters are. Just (2) terminals for connecting the positive and negative battery cables.

[@echyadventures]

How much does the adapter actually kill your battery? Is it a major difference?

[@scarped1em]

Curious if youve discovered why your unit pulls so much power. I have the same problem, but I notice it’s not a universal problem with these hcalory ac01 units. Plenty of people seem to be running them on their power supply with only 10a or 8a cigarette ports. Super annoying.

[@Zederok]

Excellent Brian. I have a kind of stupid question so please forgive my ignorance lol. How do you charge those power generators?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

You can use the ac grid (wall outlet) solar panels or even a gas generator in a pinch. Can also use your cars 12v output to charge it too. Quite a few different ways to charge these up

[@Zederok]

@@BrianWatersOutdoors Awesome, I watch a lot of camping videos and they seem very prevalent across the outdoor scene and have wondered how these things work for a very long time. I'm old school and didn't realize how great these new power stations are compared to the old gas powered generators I grew up using. Thanks again.

[@taylorhale1035]

Have you tried the DC Power Lifting mode on the Bluetti?

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Power lifting is only for the ac inverter and does not do anything to help the dc output👍🏻

[@samstamper4949]

Question here for anyone. Will a deep cycle marine battery work with this heater??

[@TheologosD]

The only issue with the converter is that it drains the power station too fast. I have an ecoflow river 2 pro and it can barely handle one night with this burner. After the ignition the consumption is about 25- 35 watts. With my older 5kw burner the consumption after the ignition was 10watts. So i think the converter it's not a solution to the problem.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@ryanlongino6505]

Pajama pants…nice

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Dedication

[@Michaeldpress14]

Weird , my Anker 521 runs mine fine

[@LetsG0Champ]

Quick(er) fix is an Xbox power brick. One n done. ;)

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@andrewnguyen4968]

i have a delta 2 max and tried this method idk why it doesn't work? when i plug my 12v into my car it works fine but ive tired a 12v adapter plug to wall does the same thing. I tried this and its doing the same thing when i turn it on it limited at like less than 20watts HELP PLZ. This is my 2nd diesel heater have not got any of them to work with my portable power station

[@philliplopez8745]

You run the risk of having a" china syndrone " if you do not have a guaranteed power source if the lights go out while it is running .

[@t4rainier]

There is something wrong with your heater, I have the same one, there is no way it should hit that many watts. Your cables are short enough I also thing there might be a soft start but I’d have to recheck my heater

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

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[@tnxmatze]

why buy a 20a led driver if you just can buy a 30a industrial power supply for less then half the price? anyway, some power stations just have something like 25a xt60 plugs what makes life much easier.

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Yeah, some stations have the 25-30amp output. This o e does not

[@tommanning7337]

😎👍🏻👍🏻🍺

[@BrianWatersOutdoors]

Cheers bud👍🏻