Power Strips Whatever Something Something: Furman SS-6B vs. Belkin Surge Protector [G9S12FG9]

[@carlnikolov]

This is an email from the company to me after highlighting the issues you mentioned in the video. Below from CORE Brands (Furman): Thank you for contacting us in regards to the SS-6B. We have been manufacturing that model for 10 years. The SS-6B holds a UL 1449 safety listing so I ensure you the product is safe and we have a failure rate of 0.01%. In trying to keep the chassis as small as possible we chose that style of receptacle to accomplish a small housing. In regards to the surge protection we are utilizing a fused 400V MOV L-N. That was the component with the white housing. As I mentioned the unit does have the UL 1449 certification but I want to share your video with our compliance engineer as we are always looking at how we can improve our products

[@mikemadden2729]

Where is 'us / we' manufacturing those? Between India & Russia?

[@ILordSpawnI]

I like when im looking for a product review and i find a complete tear-down. Thanks!

[@carlnikolov]

Update from Furman: Since UL 1449 is a safety listing for a relocatable power tap. UL will accept tinned stranded wires as they will not be torn and fray effectively causing high current going through a small gauge. This is pretty standard going from a PCB to the duplex. Using a solid wire on a small PCB could cause the solder on the PCB to be compromised. I suppose this information renders the review kind of pointless however I think you're right when it comes to the grounding issue

[@mpxz999]

I love your videos! I learn so much, and I really appreciate the quality camera angles and sound, too! Seriously, you kick ass. Thanks for your hard work!

[@AbraKaDaniel]

Hey dude, love your videos! I just stumbled upon your videos because of everyone's love for the Furman power strips. I'm a musician and sound guy and am shopping for some gear to upgrade my current setup. Is there a power strip or PDU that you have come across that has really impressed you that is solidly built for mobile abuse and has clean power distribution and surge/interference protection?

[@ELECTROHAXZ]

The orange things are a combo of polyfose and MOV, I have tons of them and the build quality of the circuit board in the belkin is quite good, definitely good power strip.

[@ScottDotDot]

ELECTROHAXZ Awesome, thanks! I knew there had to be someone out there who's seen those before.

[@ILordSpawnI]

I have seen them on the back of slot machine lcds (power board). They were covered with a clear plastic and marked high voltage. I'm pretty sure the pcb was supposed to be covered with a metal cage. I had no clue what they were for. Thanks!

[@ELECTROHAXZ]

ILordSpawnI They are commonly part of a sandwich with a temperature fuse in the middle

[@BradfordGuy]

From the Furman website: "Many surge suppression devices are not equipped to handle these kinds of conditions. Without proper protection, the end result is destroyed equipment, or at best, a destroyed surge suppression system. Furman’s Extreme Voltage Shutdown (EVS) constantly monitors incoming voltage, and once any over-voltage condition over 137 volts AC is detected, *a relay opens which immediately shuts down the unit and all connected equipment.* An indicator light informs the user there is a problem. Once the condition has been corrected, the unit may be reset or auto-reset (depending on model) and will operate normally.

[@Dwonis]

23:05 Safety tip: overloaded circuit boards can "carbonize", which means it burns and leaves a *conductive* path of carbon across the board. If the trace was too thin, you can't assume that it would fail open rather than failing short and causing a fire.

[@Theweeze100]

I bought The Furman thinking it would be the answer to my dreams, (they used to produce really great quality products) watching you show me that the “King has no clothes” was an eye-opener. I shed a few tears but I’m very thankful. Thank you so much, quality content … I subscribed!

[@mercedesbenzformula1]

So is Furman just junk then? What about the PST-8? Someone told me that it was really good

[@michael_caz_nyc]

How does the D'Addario PW-TGPB-01 compare - to these units ? Has anyone used them in comparison?

[@Unknown-qr7mj]

so the belkin one more is more good than furman as power surge protection ?

[@Theperilsofbev]

This! Was exactly what I was looking for! Subscribed!

[@tasmaniandinosaur]

I missed you! Keep on making vids. They're great!

[@DandyDoesIt]

I own the SS6B and while it doesn't claim to be a power conditioner, it always comes up in searches for them. So I called furman and asked if it's one and they said no. I also asked about the emi and rf and they stated it does a bit but at a very low level and to use their full on power conditioners for those needs. I still like the strip because of the sturdiness and black metal housing and long cable. I'm a mobile dj as my living. It's important that things be sturdy and black for blending in.

[@DJHimzz]

Hey Danny! Are you still using the Furman?

[@DavideCerriGA]

the Furman on amazon is about 28$, and for that it seems pretty decent price for what they offer. I would take that over the other choices. Not sure why so much hate for that product as it seems better that the other 2 choices. When you look at the board for the furman you only see the back and you guess what it could be doing. The specs for the surge protection are on the furman website and they show Standard spike and surge protection - UL VPR: 400V, UL Nominal. Single Pulse Energy Dissipation, 540 Joules. Which is in line with a cheap surge protection strip. Other advantage i see on the Furman, is that if you are unhappy with the plugs that it uses, you can easily replace them.

[@analogaudiorules1724]

Get the furman ssb6 pro... its on a whole other level.

[@Ryan-bd4mt]

@@analogaudiorules1724 whoa, $1 terminals instead of $0.35 terminals

[@analogaudiorules1724]

@@Ryan-bd4mt ignorant comment

[@Rckrkid287]

These videos are awesome! Keep making them!

[@joedance14]

If you are still out there doing this kind of video, I would love to see the dissection of products from the Tripplite Isobar and APC lines. Thank-you.

[@twochaudiomg2578]

Don't you think about How much noise the power strip adds to the Product you plug into ?

[@Trusteft]

These videos are like a reverse autopsy. I like them. :) Love the editing, nice touches of text+music. I love your videos.

[@UnrealVideoDuke]

Judging, the wiring job inside is an absolute nightmare in the Belkin & Furman Power strip. I don't know how they got approval by bridging the connections like that. The Grounded Furman case is not properly done. The star washer is supposed to contact the case.

[@castlecastle503]

Great Video. Can you do a review video on the Furman SS-6B Pro? Also, which is the best Power Conditioner for DJ equipment? I have a Furman., and after watching this video, I'm worried that I need to change with another brand. Subscribed.

[@XhopebringerX777]

Does it help with pedal buzzing?

[@HostileTakeover2]

This is an old video so probably doesn't matter anymore, but that unknown component is an MOV capacitor. Specs below, translated by Google: "Three-phase varistor / high energy varistor It is mainly used to absorb various operating surges and induced lightning surge overvoltages to prevent such overvoltages from interfering with the normal operation of the circuit or damaging various circuit components. The voltage range is wide, the residual voltage is low, the flow rate is large, the response speed is fast, and there is no polarity." Brand/Model: EV/S120D201-S320D471 Custom processing: Yes Brand: EV Model: S120D201-S320D471 Type: pressure sensitive Performance: high resistance Material: inorganic solid Manufacturing process: ordinary wire winding Shape: Cylindrical Nominal resistance: 500Ω Temperature coefficient: other Rated power: 500 (W) W Power characteristics: high power Frequency characteristics: UHF

[@Edward135i]

Pretty surprising about the Furman, since all they do is make power protection equipment.

[@kylehazachode]

I do live shows and surge protectors with CATV in/out makes for great makeshift DI boxes; by adding CATV to RCA adapters. This can clean up sound coming from crappy ungrounded mixers.

[@dannytran173]

So if I just wanted a noise filter I should use this furmann?

[@TobyCowles]

"by practically everyone I mean No one." best quote ever

[@phototristan]

The selling point on the Furman is it has no MOV‘s so better for audio purposes.

[@titusfive]

I'm pretty sure this is NOT the Furman with no MOV's. You are thinking of their SMP stuff such as the PST-8.

[@phototristan]

B Adams The one in this video has no MOV’s.

[@Aberusugi]

It does, check the older comment copy pasted from Furman themselves. "400V MOV L-N"

[@berj79]

Have you checked PS Audio Dectet power center?

[@BagusWibisono]

halo.. these both can use for guitar amp like (kemper stage OR line6 helix floor board) ???

[@cengeb]

How did it get a UL listed number, when using the wrong wire in teh duplex? Hmmm, FAIL

[@nomex8461]

Hey, I appreciate these vids!

[@analogaudiorules1724]

Should have reviewed the furman ssb6 pro instead of the regular model, the regular version is inferior to the pro version, the pro model has evs and better harmonic filtering as well as a better internal build, for another 40 to 70 bucks its worth it, either way those furman strips actually will do what they say, if you want to see furman at their best check out the pf 1800ar... even their pfc upses are fantastic quality. Good video other then all of your assumptions, please review that pro version of the Furman strip.

[@boimesa8190]

So what can u recommend for EU plugs with ac line? I want to use it for my music :O

[@irvingrivera3844]

This video was very helpful. It be nice to know which power strip in the market are the best at the moment especially when it comes to noise reduction and clean electricity.

[@acidnine822]

They look like pptc resettable fuses with what looks like a thermal fuse sandwiched between them. Also looking at the silk screen on the board it looks as if it's a custom made thing. PPTC fuses get very hot when they go into a over current situation. If it's too hot then the thermal fuse blows to protect the load and to prevent the PPTCs from potentially damaging the rest of the product? Obviously the fiberglass sleeve thing is to help retain the heat to those components.

[@tigerbalm666]

After researching with little info...I bought APC - SurgeArrest 11-Outlet Surge Protector - Black Model:P11U2 for $30. Mainly for the features and 2880-joule rating. I stay away from cheapo no-brands.

[@Noisa]

Yet the clamping voltage is poor on that model, so joules don’t mean a thing if it doesn’t clamp earlier.

[@Lumbergh42]

Considered getting the Furman SS-6B a while back, now I'm glad that I didn't! Any chance you could do a Tripp-Lite 6SP (power strip, not a surge protector) or similar? Should I send you one? :)

[@stevenrolfe1918]

Brazing is like soldering but much higher temperatures, I think what you saw was a spot welded connector

[@MetalHeadHippie]

I have the furman. so anywhooooooo. what is a good power strip/surge protector? thanks buddy. I need a good one to protect my amps.

[@Ghop7577]

..Furman.

[@mountainpeakcloud8442]

@@Ghop7577 Not according to this guy.

[@sunnysdreamland]

would lobe to see a video on your SETUP multi cam and how you switch angles etc .

[@sunnysdreamland]

typo LOVE

[@indrakumarc73]

Nice video. Cant find 230v Furman power strip...i need for hifi audio stuff that i have

[@georgeanastasopoulos5865]

Comparing the Furman SS-6B to an ordinary power strip, but comparing it to the Belkin Surge Protector is more of a relevant comparison. However, I certainly prefer the Furman surge protector. I'm most likely choose this one for my hi fi audio system if not a more expensive, and elaborate surge protector, that also has power conditioning. Furman SS-6B unit is built like a tank, and effective.

[@ottomanmuzic5744]

didnt know furman was selling horseshit. thanks for saving my money

[@TravisRocco]

If you transport the Furman often (touring/gigging Musicians, etc) the power cord will undoubtably become tangled, twisted and unmanageable. I've owned at least 8 of them and no matter how good them were wrapped the cords would become mangled messes. Completely frustrating as I swap them out frequently (not because the outlet box breaks but just for the cords.) I'm looking for a new brand and will not be purchasing this Furman model again.

[@georgeanastasopoulos5865]

Update; no! Not the Furman, S.co.tt! Are you serious, and certain? The Furman's electronic package is not as high quality as the Belkin surge protector? I thought it was the other way around. I am enlightened, but certainly a bit disenchanted.

[@richwalter5322]

Advice: Don't make a video about something before you do proper research (you make too many guesses and assumptions here)... a simple call or email to the manufacturer could have cleared up a lot of that (as some have done below in the comments). So overall, not very well done.

[@jeffsloane8628]

As an audiophile I want the fewest components of the highest grade in the signal/power path as possible. Based on this video the Furman wins.

[@Noisa]

That’s not really how it works, bud.

[@Gainsforlife]

I learned quite a bit just now ty

[@gino3286]

Hi thank you very much indeed for this extremely interesting video. Presently i am looking for a power strip suitable for my home stereo system and i am trying to learn something. It seems to me that the Furman has the better sockets while the Belkin the most elaborated electronics ? I have a diy idea ... to buy this two strips and combine the best parts of both in a new one ... maybe using a wooden case for everything. I do not know if it is a smart and safe idea by the way. What would you suggest ? Move to a better strip ? which one ? my main issue is some mains noise that could interfere with audio equipment. I do not need much current as i intend to use the strip mainly for source components and not power amp. Thanks a lot again for the very nice and valuable video. Kind regards, gino

[@davidchsw]

Plug in an electric heater and point your IR thermometer to see if anything heats up.

[@joedance14]

This video was published a few years ago, I realize. That said, a power strip and a surge protector are NOT the same thing, but are in fact VERY different. A power strip is basically an extension cord with multiple outlets. It may or may not have some kind of fuse or breaker. A surge protector stops or shunts to ground excess voltage beyond some level (clamping voltage). A surge protector should also have a joule rating - the maximum current the unit can handle - beyond which it fails. Better surge protectors have some degree of EMI/RFI line noise filtering; however, the filtering on cheaper products is usually insignificant, trivial, just there to get attention, a sales gimmick. If you need or want EMI/RFI filtering, get a better product. What surge protectors do NOT have is voltage regulation. Voltage fluctuates, all the time, it is never constant, or consistent. Get over it, or deal with it. A power conditioner, aka line conditioner, regulates voltage and provides consistent quality power to the connected loads. At a significantly higher price. Then we have the Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS). SOME UPS models provide decent surge protection. SOME UPS models provide decent filtering of line noise. SOME UPS models provide decent Automatic Voltage Regulation. Do your homework. Cost is an important issue to most of us, but so is safety. DON’T BUY CHEAP!

[@erikgreer8794]

Suggestions? I’m looking for protection for my mid-priced guitar amplifier. Significant enough EMI/RFI protection is desirable, too . Thanks in advance ….

[@damarlboromans]

I just bought the Belkin 12-Outlet Pivot-Plug Power Strip Surge Protector with 8-Foot Power Cord, 4320 Joules (BP112230-08) hope it is good.

[@TheKebair]

Are you sure people it wasn't just people being pleased to see you putting out some content? I know I am. I like your videos, keep it up.

[@EnvidiaRecords]

love your intro bro, thanks for the video

[@adam__mark]

Wow great breakdown man, gonna pass on this thang

[@ShaymenRameka]

Invaluable!🎉

[@cengeb]

Only the FURMAN has UL listed stuff, others are usless

[@rodneyjackson622]

I learn a lot, from your video

[@gunsandguitars6678]

it's a round metal ferrule on the screwdriver ! TIG welder / tin shop mechanic,

[@georgeanastasopoulos5865]

This sort of quality combined with functionality for a high standard, or an in italics acceptable standard is not the case with most computer hardware. The only certain weak link that certainly follows most is the power supply unit within a desktop computer. You either have to buy a very expensive desktop computer, or purchase another power supply that has higher power capabilities, and also build quality; from over 10 years ago, and from what I've read in at least one computer hardware repair, upgrading book. I opened my PSU up, half-way, thought something was wrong, blew out some dust, put it back together, and connected it into the Sony console again. My point is that in the computer, or computing industry, in this case hardware, is that the electronics, devices, adapters, wires, ports, and connections can be seen, observed for the work that such components perform. Should there be the same observational window? Figuratively, as well as actually speaking? What I can say with enough certainty is that most (in italics) computer hardware is of acceptable quality, functionality, reasonable build, and it plain works well, or at least well enough. As for computer software, including operating systems; that's another story. As a very accomplished, famous comic book editor used to say, enough said.

[@rfmcqueen72]

I arrived at your video because I was just about to buy the Furman and was looking for a review of it before purchase. Your video saved me two twenty dollar bills as I will NOT be buying the Furman. Thanks. 🤘🏼

[@galefraney]

Super informative!!!

[@richranchernot]

Exactly what is your area of expertise? It is certainly not electronics, electrical equipment, metallurgy, manufacturing technology.

[@rainbowgaming8441]

i have had 5 of them and they are not good

[@SuperMIKevin]

"wong fing" wrong thing

[@christopherdunn317]

Well there you have it the two video's i watch about audio conditioning was a joke ! high priced crap people think there getting on amazon !

[@faautobahna9416]

You can be genuinely funny. There's another talent for you if the strip fetish doesn't work out.

[@micqn2]

Rong Feng or Wrong Thing:)

[@TeddyxxMexx]

My Belkin Melted yesterday

[@dcfincher]

Rong Feng = Wrong Thing

[@jimanddiana4103]

Nice!

[@malcolmevershed482]

To see the back side of the Furman SS-6B PCB, see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIrcY6N9pMenbck

[@kathy2825]

nice video!

[@infoxicate]

The end of this video lmao

[@amazoidal]

These power strips are a joke. Look inside and see nothing. Hey, Pangea Octet on sale. Regular $499 on sale for $399! How come no lab tests. No view of the insides. Monoprice has 4 outlet metal box with surge for $ 14.99. Or a Tripp-Lite 10 outlet for $52.67. You have miles of Romex and power company aluminum wire in front of this and you probably have a cheap outlet on the wall. It's just another wire in the system. And the system is only as good as it's weakest link.

[@moradorderua9243]

gooooood video

[@aarongabbard]

My Furman started Smelling super strange next thing I know all that works on it is the Light.

[@steg719]

nice

[@ilducedimas]

Nice video but way too long. Keep up the good work!

[@drmindbender8616]

Furman is cheap garbage all the budget has gone into the metal case the belkin has decent filtering but not really much else going for it there is an old saying folks you pay for what you get ??

[@camilleduclos3452]

Incredibly lame, do you even know what you are talking about? you keep saying "I guess this, I guess that"... That surge protector is so cheap but I don't want to risk destroying it so I'm just gonna guess everything without looking!

[@rppdfire]

Why does it bother you? He's just a regular guy tearing things apart and taking a look. Never once heard him claiming expertise. CTFO

[@bassphantom4613]

LOL

[@dosereviews]

Hahahah nothing sexual hahhahah

[@mikemadden2729]

I bet they're all made you know where. By Flung Dung Electric, HAHAHA!!!

[@narsochola6013]

to much yard yara

[@arystotalloss]

That was a waist of my time

[@TheOzthewiz]

Watching this video wasted 39min of my life

[@Xyrium]

Furman makes junk below 500 bucks...above that, they aren't competitive. Darned shame what they call "suppression".....the plastic Belkin seems better

[@ArsOb-DWD-KSC]

#72 would have been too on the nose 🥸