Powerful Kayak Motor Build. Big Battery High Torque Machined Prop made for range and high TOP SPEED

[@kevinwhipple8041]

On my cooling I got ,I had over 10 years that cooling my house,I think I need New one,just think about that,I watch your on U tube all the time, and also like your new motor you got,I been watching you on U tube around 3:30 AM in the morning, thank you for your time Kevin.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Thank you Kevin!

[@trevorhoward3328]

Found the original video in this series like two weeks ago and freaked out when I couldn't find the follow up. Then I got excited when this popped up!

[@motorv8N]

Love the budget approach and acknowledgment that not everyone has the serious milling tools you do.

[@deepversion7953]

The first one I see him trying this SSS Monster Motor. Keep it up Buddy . I'm building my Jetboard wit this Monster SSS . Greetings From Germany

[@TheBradinator214]

I visited the museum today for the first time. There was a lot more stuff there than I thought there was going to be. It was very cool. Recognized some of the restored tools and things. I hoped to see you there but maybe another time.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Sorry Brother, I am no longer at the museum.

[@TheBradinator214]

The Good of the Land - As in you no longer work there or just aren't there due to quarantine?

[@douglasmatthews4237]

Holy cow Batman. I would put that motor on my old Gheenoe 13, bet it would work. I bought a 24k Mr Cool for my shop and am tickled. Love your channel.

[@Tishers]

Your adapter plate is mostly blocking off any cooling water flow through the motor. Just something to think about. Also, you might want to consider a grit-screen on the inlet side of the motor to keep sand from getting between the poles on rotor and the windings on the stator. A certain amount of sand and grit is ferrous (iron) and will stick to the rotor, so a cleaning might be something you want to do once or twice a season.

[@frangovisck]

He going to discovery it later in other video

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

The bracket looks amazing after you finished it

[@jameschippett2177]

Really loved this video. Good to mix things up on the channel and get some diverse content. 👍👍👍

[@paulgarrison9490]

Hi love the videos . I would like the motor info and the prop info if you would [e-mail] and ty .

[@squishy312]

Can't wait to see this up and running. My RC car has an AC motor. It's tiny compared to that thing. But it has a ton of torque, and gets my car scooting pretty fast.

[@nickn2261]

I use 3s batteries on my trolling motor. I made a harness to use four batteries at a time to spread the load out. This motor looks awesome

[@calebburnett]

I remember you teasing this a while back and I’ve been looking forward to seeing the build. I’ve considered a similar build for myself. Looking forward to seeing the tests.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

I'm going to build multiple setups so people have a choice. Should be cool. I think i can get a system going with a $150 budget.

[@Redbeard682e]

Been looking forward as well. Want to build a similar setup. I have a radar 115 I'm currently building a lifepo4 battery for. Been collecting 18650's for some time now(got around 500 cells). Can't wait to see your ideas.

[@gabewhisen3446]

Justin I ha e a high regard for this build and the channel, this video is such a tease ugh I need to see this power the boat

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Its coming, and after that I have an even more powerful set up. Then I'm making a 100%solar setup.

[@gamecockmike175]

I was thinking when you were milling it why you didn't have coolant running. I miss that sound so much. I worked at IKS for years running cnc machines, milling. Left there and ended up as Cad operator and ran the machines for a smaller company. A startup type deal and since I went to school for E.G.T., and then ran machines for years, I reckon they thought I was the perfect man for the job except they only forgot one thing and that was the money. LOL. But in all serious I am enjoying watching this so much people don't understand. Creating things, having to use your mind for something besides an assembly line, no pun intended, and then watching a large machine make something that you really didn't design but still put your little spin on because i'm sure you know there's many different ways to get from start to finish. The only thing that I didn't do is send the parts to heat treat. Once it was off my machine or machines, that was it for my part. After a while we began getting larger orders and much more runtime on the machines so we got another CNC Operator hired to help out. I don't know if you used Autocad and or Smartcam but if you have then you know how finicky smartcam can be the way it writes the code, how the steps are. If you don't draw it out in the order of the way you want the machine to cut it, you can create a mess but now i've been out the game for 15 years now so i'm sure programs have changed for the better. We would get these Engineers in at both companies and I would always try and explain to them how much programming they had to do down on the floor because of that little bit of difference between programs but just reminiscing. I hope you enjoy making this stuff as much as I love watching it so keep up the good work. Have a great weekend and God Bless.

[@king0dasouf]

I miss this build series

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

That propeller and blade setup is just stunning

[@skyeyoun5781]

Hi friend your nice man so i like you and this story all. Have a nice day. Thanks

[@ChrisRollins]

Cant wait to ride it!!!

[@billbarnes1043]

You talk about volts, amps and watts. If you look into “Ohms Law” wattage remains constant, as the voltage increases amperage draw decreases.

[@bhoutdoors507]

That isn’t Ohm’s Law that’s just the definition of a watt. Ohm’s Law is V = I * R

[@Andy-df5fj]

Only if power remains constant, which it doesn't.

[@nickopedia5669]

According to ohm's law, wattage does NOT remain constant. as voltage goes up, the current goes up, and therefore the power goes up. And none of that matters because this is a motor that is primarily ruled by inductance. However, it does follow a similar path where more voltage than rated means you have higher "leftover" voltage while at a high rpm, which means you can achieve higher current (up to the maximum torque) even at the max RPM. And that's a LOT more wattage than the motor is rated for, despite being under the maximum current limits.

[@mnemonic1978]

Aaaaarrrggghhhh. Now I want the field test, now!! Gimmegimmegimme🤤🤤😜😜😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

I don't want to spoil it. There are two more videos after this one and tomorrow I will upload another with a larger motor.

[@rockinRrr]

I love this series

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

I been looking forward to this series of videos for awhile so awesome to see an update on this justin @TheGoodOfTheLand

[@gunna2cool]

This is quite an interesting build, can't wait for the next installment 👍

[@454pakr]

Batteries are taking over the world!

[@BIGWIGGLE223]

Hell yes!!!! 🤘🤘🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🤘🤘 Been looking forward to this. Amazingly, it seems like you're the only person on KZbin that's finally gonna throw some crazy motor at a kayak. We've all seen reviews of those bixby motor units that are pretty nice, but for the money you shell out for that kit it's weak af. I am still waiting for someone to make an electric jet drive for a kayak or small John boat. This is gonna be epic!!!🤘

[@carlwhite8225]

i am adding that to my small basshunter, I fish small farm ponds so those batteries will last a long time, Thanks.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

The will work great on a bass buster.

[@travisfoley2999]

@@TheGoodoftheLand qm

[@jesusisreal3209]

@@TheGoodoftheLand wouldn't it be a good idea to sharpen the leading edge of those blades mostly for weeds, also a mini rope cutter like on big boats but again just for any stringy weeds or even fishing line

[@lionsdejudah]

Awesome concept build, clearance is a factor when going Skinny, cause Normal trolling motors require like 12” of water to prevent cavitation.

[@jessevoidswarranties8335]

Amazing build. This is going to be great

[@jeffstevens156]

Glad to be back following You. I’ve given up on the salt water kayak. I’ve always had shark encounters whenever I’d wade fish Galveston bay. Hammerheads are common in the gulf and they scare the you know what out of me. It’s an unnatural fear because I haven’t seen one yet. I think if I did, I’d never go back in salt water.

[@moimeme4840]

@Jeff Stevens the bull shark, Carcharhinus leucas, which can swim between salt and fresh water, and are found in tropical rivers around the world they can stay a month or so in fresh water.

[@jeffstevens156]

@@moimeme4840 I saw a video of a guy reeling in a freshwater bass he caught from the dock behind His house and a very large bull shark showed its girth as it ate His fish. Big shark! I have heard of bulls being hundreds of miles up river. Do You happen to know what shark lives, or comes and goes, in that lake in South America?

[@moimeme4840]

@@jeffstevens156 bull sharks have been known to travel up the Mississippi River as far as Alton, Illinois, about 700 miles from the ocean. They are great white up north in the Saint Laurence seaway . Many species could be everywhere near ocean / rivers .

[@jeffstevens156]

@@moimeme4840 Thank You very much for info. Sounds like I need a bigger boat! I don’t mind fishing for alligator gar in the Trinity river because I know I won’t be eaten. The closest I’ve come with a shark other than having stuck my foot in ones mouth while I was surfing. I know the more I’m in their territory, the higher my chances are of encountering them. I guess their best chance from now on is in the bath tub with epsom salt. Lol. But seriously, Thanks! I won’t be wading the bay anymore. I had a six footer right next to me, stealing my stringer. I am in their house every time I do that. So it’s bank or boat fishing from now on. Have a good day and again, Thanks!

[@homerwhite6324]

Holly crap what a deal on that metal!

[@neillh]

Thanks for showing your video 👍and I liked how you try to say ALUMINIUM 😀

[@psychofn.7137]

you should try to put 2 or 3 motors on a kayak would love to see how fast it would go!

[@aaronnichols2935]

which pitch in the kenshin prop do you recommend? Thanks

[@MrSabram07]

Just stumbled upon this video and dude you're awesome, this is fascinating to watch

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Wow at how strong the magnets are insane

[@seap9570]

Do you know if there is any thruster that can run on 12V? Want to build a left/right thruster for my boat.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Look forward to the next videos in this Series Justin @TheGoodOfTheLand

[@ethanyork8382]

What pitch prop did you chose?

[@stevelake5943]

The links for the limo packs, the motor and the charger are no good

[@Redbeard682e]

Thank you for this.

[@frb1374]

Those bearings aren't sealed they are shielded bearings meaning that they have a small cap that will let the water get in to the bearing.

[@RC-ij4je]

The motor on my diy electric sup had similar bearings and after 5 runs it got really noisy. Better off getting ceramic or stainless bearings. Another concern is the rust on the magnets, maybe apply a thin layer of epoxy around the rotor to avoid that.

[@BIGWIGGLE223]

@@RC-ij4je doing some rust prevention for those magnets is a good idea, but what material do they use for the magnets in these kinda motors?? Are they neodymium? I'd imagine they are if they're high quality motors, but I wonder if it is even feasible to get a layer thin enough to to fit that tight gap they build into those motors. I guess you could just vacuum seal the motor in a way that forced the resin away from that gap?? But at the same time, if you're constantly running it and careful to clean it and dry it with the utmost care after each use you could prevent rust buildup that could shorten the life of the motor. Then you just spend all your fun time preventing rust? I dunno though.....I am no expert, but this subject alone would be a great learning adventure.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+BIG WIGGLE Yuo Neodymium. There is a vid before this vid and I disassemble the motor. Magnets are crazy strong. They are also wrapped and epoxy coated. Not sure how long this will last in the water. Its one of the reasons I want to test it. Time will tell. Sand is an issue an well as salt water. They could kill the motor quickly. My lake is clear fresh water and I plan to only use the motor in deep clean water. The big motor at the beginning of the vid is supposed to be safe in salt water. We will see. Finished up most of the fab on the mount today. Check out my Instagram. Kayak test video drops this weekend!

[@BIGWIGGLE223]

@@TheGoodoftheLand all I know is that this build is gonna be epic either way!!

[@ivanromero8362]

Incredible... could you tell me how you managed to prevent the motor from being damaged by the water? I want to install something like this in my fishing kayak! greetings from Spain!

[@rayen6954]

Does the rolling motor come waterproof, or do you have to insulate it yourself?

[@capcadoi]

I need the link to the propeller. I can't find it on banggood or anywhere else. I'm building a similar setup, but less powerful

[@pizzapimp8128]

Put a couple of wings on your boat, and I’m going to predict that motor will propel your kayak into flight. Looks way too fast, in my opinion. Can’t wait to see the test run 😉.

[@dalemitchell8006]

What electric motor did you settle on for your kayak? Would two of them push my 24 foot pontoon boat?

[@terrieboddaert8007]

wicked build great work... the link for the Propeller and housing doesn't work... any hints would be great

[@williamcarter746]

Is there a final video on this? I want to make one.

[@JorgeGonzalez-bd5rx]

I loved your build I have a couple of questions first can this build be use with a jet water thruster and second where can i find and purchase this batteries Thanks

[@edwardnash7411]

need to put it on a two man bass boat

[@SkypowerwithKarl]

You’ve got some hurdles. Seals. At least two double lipped commons are needed to keep the motor dry. The bearings in the shroud housing only have one lip to protect themselves. There’s no cone behind the motor which the lack of will induce drag and/or form an air pocket that could cause cavitation at high speeds. Kayaks are speed limited by hydrodynamics. Highly efficient in displacement mode but very inefficient at planing. If the strern was flattened like a transom and the bottom had a chine, it would help speed but hinder low speed efficiency. There’s always a compromise. A typical Kayak, pointy at both ends, would hit a wall at about 8 mph. After that the power required goes up exponentially. An eight man Olympian racing scull tops out at 18 mph. Pretty much the fastest boat for it’s size in displacement mode. What many people do is hang a 24volt tiller type trolling motor on the back with a couple of Battle Born batteries and call it good.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+Karl Jensen Lots of good points here and you are not the only person with these concerns. I will use your comment in the first run video to show how the build stacks up to these problems. The bearings are on the prop my biggest concern. Excellent Japanese bearings but its not a press fit and just in the run test they spun on the shaft. I have plans for the rest of the issues including the Kayak displacement hull. This motor prop and battery combo will crush 8 mph with raw power problemis it is likelyto get a bit scary. We are talking crazy thrust numbers and a prop design that is capable. Troling motors are for pushing heavy boats slowly. The also push kayaks slowly. 7mph is the highest Ihave ever seen and that was with a monster motor. It is definitely going to a fun project. Im still not sure where the final number will be but I will be happy with 10 mph. Probably never run it that fast because of the hull design but it should have a problem hitting it. We will see. If it can't hit 10 on my cuda I'm switching it to my wives hobie with a very streamlined hull and slapping the Mega beast motor on mine. I should arrive later this month. Keep an eye out for that. Just to give you an idea of what this motor is capable of the soon to be released new torqeedo hits 7.5 mph on a bonafide and it is a 1000 watt motor. The sss motor in this video is capable of over 10,000 watts. My pack and speed control will only use a small portion of that avaliable power.

[@SkypowerwithKarl]

The Good of the Land I had a 43’ houseboat ( see: “Big fast houseboat” KZbin). It took only 70hp to move it at 8 1/2 mph yet it took 660 hp to make it go 27 mph and that was a planing hull. Fuel consumption at that power level is enormous, just as it would be if it were powered by electricity. Want speed with electric, think hydrofoil.

[@leilinolivero9580]

Me gusto ese proyecto

[@garyarrabito77]

I habe two 100ah 12v batterys how long will Thatcher last?

[@MCEngineeringInc]

Neat build 👍🏻

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+MCEngineeringInc Thanks Brother!

[@francescoranchi7415]

Hello I have a question, the motor SSS56144 has 13kW and max RPM 45.000 , do you use any reduction gearbox or do you connect directly the motor to the prop? does the motor ever spin at 45k rpm (and the prop too) or how did you make it work?

[@pupay1]

What thruster pitch you choose for your motor

[@altf449]

The Banggood link doesn't work anymore. Can I have the link to the motor please

[@mikealbert2527]

There is simple conversion to convert watts to HP. Every Watt is approximately.0014 HP. So, 7kw is equivalent to 9.8HP. To then convert that to Amps; 7000 W / 24 V = 291.66 Amps I am concerned that your projected current draws might be low

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Yup, they were way low. The bucket test simply does not provide real data. Needs to be in the water pushing the boat. Check out the next two videos.

[@kevinengland4675]

That work really well on a canoe too I think man 😊🇨🇦

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Absolutely. I want to build the mount so that it can be changed to fit other water craft. Can't wait to get it on the water!

[@kevinengland4675]

The Good of the Land you still doing “Good of the Land” fest ?

[@bryancarr9460]

Can someone recommend a custom machine shop please. I’d like to get a motor mount built. Thank you

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Doing a series of 3 batteries to make voltage and paralleled them to get the Massive amp hours Justin @TheGoodOfTheLand

[@matt060383]

put it in water it will increase the amp draw

[@20mcarroll02]

I love the hull design on my bonafide ss127. It's as stabile alone as my 14' ocean kayak was with outriggers. Yes a bonafide is expensive, but not compared to the hobie angler.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+Piney Hollows Homestead Its a fantastic Kayak. I was going to get one bud got a fantastic deal on my Cuda HD. It was a Month long decision process. Im with you on the Hobie. Amy has one and I prefer my Jackson. The euros just don't fit me.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+The Good of the Land The Ergonomic don't fit...

[@reydelsanchez]

Where you get that drill bit guide you used to clamp to drill the holes on the plate with the hand held drill? Or what is it call?? Thx love the videos

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

It's made by Big gator tools. amzn.to/3lysyRz

[@grimmreaper6351]

Thanks a bunch for the video. I've been wondering if that ducted prop was worth ordering and you showed that it is. I'm working on my first build and you have provided a wealth of info on the propulsion system. Keep up the good work!

[@gman1974100]

Sweet. Are you going to talk about the charge controller, if you haven't already? Thank you.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Yes. For these battery's I'm just using a 400watt rc charger. Im also building a battery pack. That will ge charged with a different charger.

[@float5094]

FYI, links are not working.

[@Rulinjic]

Very impressive well done. It motivated me to something similar, but it's not cheap as you are saying. It's way more than 200 dollars. Just battery and motor would cost me over 500 dollars. By the time you make everything, you are talking about 800 to 1000 dollars, which is a lot. Do you have any specific website where you get all that stuff that cheap?

[@briane3050]

I love how this is going so far. But I think having a motor that isnt completely sealed is going to cause issues at some point down the road. Whether its fresh water, brackish, or god forbid a few runs in any kind of salt water...it would eat it alive in no time. I do like the size and the weight factor, which are huge issues on a kayak...but with all the thought and effort, and the expense your putting on your build, I'd sure feel more at ease if the internals had some protection from the elements..

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Yup, definitely would be better if it was sealed. I have seen many attempts which all have ended with water intrusion causing the motor to sit in water for days destroying the entire setup. It can be done and I have a friend whith the equipment to build it however im curious to see how long it will last open to the elements. I probably wouldn't survive one trip in Salt water. I have a sealed motor for that.

[@RobertNES816]

@@TheGoodoftheLand you'd still have an issue with salt water getting in through the bearings if the motor was "sealed" or "waterproof". I've learned that no hobby grade motor is actually "waterproof". I would think if you installed the motor outside of the boat with a gearbox and a water jacket for cooling it would last allot longer.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+Robert NES816 Yes, that's what we are testing. Salt water is out of the question. It will kill this motor. How long will it last in fresh water. The answer is in tonight's video. Spoiler alert.... not long😉

[@RobertNES816]

@@TheGoodoftheLand I'll be sure to watch then 👌

[@briane3050]

Not including multiple parts that were used in the experimental portions. Where do you think you'll end up as far as what it will cost an individual to build there own complete diy set up Motor cost, lipo battery cost, controller and charger cost, misc costs.. From what ive been seeing in my searches is total cost is lower than the retail prices of the bixby or torqueedo. But the project still seems to end up costing me. Lot more that I thought it would or even should for that matter. Which leads me to believe I'm not finding the proper sources for some of the materials

[@jksprecast2957]

I really like your build but one thing that you don't have is a schematic for all the electronics that you put into this thing. I would love to see a schematic of your final build.

[@lloydagpalo4619]

Hi I just love your designs and I know I don’t have the ability to build one like you have and a Bixby is too expensive for me is there anyway that I can purchase it from you please thank you for your time

[@gunzzzz89]

Is the motor water friendly? Can it handle sea water?

[@ronquin5272]

Do you have another link to that propeller ? or the name of it? the link isn't working anymore. Thanks!

[@antoniusekopurwanto8362]

Could not find any motor like yours on amazon

[@southsidemusicproductionho6311]

When ordering the prop for the 350kv motor its asking for coupler specifics. Which one did you get?

[@xephael3485]

@The Good of the Land Didn't you upload a video on making an ultrasonic cleaner for stainless sink? Did you remove it for some reason?

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

No, it's still on the channel.

[@xephael3485]

@@TheGoodoftheLand thanks, I found it... kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4XQmXyYaJuDrJI that was an awesome video!👍🍻

[@johannessteenberg4352]

Thinking off building a battry driven yetski what motor do you recomend, golden Dc motor?

[@johannessteenberg4352]

Hi here i was trying to ask a question about building a electric yetski could i get a reply please

[@ssthippieify]

I have a Big Fish 105 by Feel Free. It has a cathedral hull with 2 tunnels. I'm trying to figure out how to get a motor like this in each of the tunnels. The tunnels will fit a 3" or 4" PVC tube in each. That's how i store it.

[@jakeminogue]

I can tell you for sure, sealed bearings on their own won't last long underwater.

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+Jake Minogue Sure they will.

[@ethanwyatt349]

Is there a way i can message you a picture of my kayak? i got i wanna see if theres a way i can mount a moter kit on it.

[@bleezham]

links are busted.. need good advice on water proof motor for similar setup

[@deadheadgarage9763]

Where did you get the prop?

[@southsidemusicproductionho6311]

Which Nozzle you get in this video?

[@sandmanbub]

@Whoop!

[@shimenfishingadventureride533]

Where can we buy your props assembly?

[@craigjones2015]

Set the cut off at 13.4 for a cut off to save the batterys

[@aaronnichols2935]

Can you use Li-ion batteries instead of lipo?

[@1980rwl]

Any chance of you building more for sale to those not mechanically inclined?

[@СталинградскийРубеж]

Хорошое видео однозначный лайк

[@davidwright4937]

the parts are no longer available so do you have another site to order those parts? Or a detail information of the name of the parts and we can look for it?

[@seanhitchcock9368]

Does it over heat?

[@claritovirata3504]

Are you selling this motor and battery combo

[@kimroberson8376]

Great build.....shows how the kayak companies has been short changing the consumer with cheap plastic & bad designs. .. Everyone knows this when a Jon boat holds more weight & cost less. The Hobbie is overpriced as well as the Dorado.....

[@sparkyprojects]

Doesn't cavitation start when the prop is going too fast through the water if it's not designed for that speed ?

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

+Sparky Projects Yes. It actually pulls the air from the water. It can also be caused by the prop pulling air into the prop stream. This should help with that as well as thrust vectoring for better steering and control. Can't wait ti test it!!

[@stevenjones5226]

Is this a 16s?

[@meissnermax]

What speedcontroller are you using?

[@raymondzhao9557]

cool

[@Curtislow2]

FYI, Vibration in the water is called cavitation.

[@totherarf]

Cavitation is small bubbles being created. They upset the flow of liquids and can destroy the surface of metals! They can cause vibration hough ;0)

[@edgardonavarro7127]

What should I use for a ocean kayak Trident 13

[@TheGoodoftheLand]

Keep watching, we will figure it out.