Powering Up Trammer Exploring 600 Level Full

[@adrianbew9641]

I drove the early 70s version of the trams and much the same 3 speed forward and reverse with handbrake running on a 24 inch gauge rail system of which I laid 100s of metres over a 5 year period . They were capable of pulling or pushing 8 to 10 tons at a time depending on gradient. The mine is typical late 60s 70s 8ft x 8ft drives and cross cuts. In my last two years we upgraded to a larger still battery driven Eimco that could pull up to 12 tons and 2 ton wagons instead of 1. Most things were air driven, drills ,air legs , muckers and the fans, these produced around 116 decibels when running at full speed and deafening at a time when ear protection was non existent. Left me with 60% hearing loss in one ear and 40% the other and constant tinnitus. The drills faired little better at around 85 decibels. For me a fantastic job in my late teens, very tough conditions, excellant pay and essentially set me up for life. In cornwall we measured our levels in fathoms not feet and directly vertical below the surface and i worked at 340 fathom level or 2040 ft straight down. The sump eventually ended up 2600ft. Shaft riding would take around 3 minutes to go from the surface to my level .

[@jasonswaglord1498]

What was the top speed of theese little workhorses?

[@adrianbew9641]

I'm not exactly sure, they weighed around the 1 ton mark with large 24v lead acid batteries inside the box, and most times were connected to about 8 wagons which weighed around another 3 tons empty. Most levels had a gradient so when pushing empty wagons would run at about 10 mph. Most levels followed the lode so they were quite windy and relatively narrow with often roof supports so speed was not a necessity but pulling power was. Possibly The loco on its own may have managed about 15 mph ish.

[@jasonswaglord1498]

Atleast a small section of the mine is open as a museum, whole town of Ajka was a mining town. Sadly since the mines died out, the city itself is starting to die out too...

[@patricknoveski6409]

Amazing

[@anned8634]

i spent 5 years running one of those Mancha "Little Trammer" Type B mining locomotives. i was working a underground mine out side alleghany calif. i had to rewire the Mancha as water had turned the cloth wrapped copper wire into green powder. replaced the wire with welding cable and i had already charged the old 1973 40 volt battery and found it took a charge even in 1998. the original batteries for the Mancha little trammer were edison Nickel-iron batteries so you are running the little trammer off the third type battery its been run on. The Mancha little trammer i had was charged with a rewound truck alternator that was wound to put out 43 volts and powered with a small Pelton wheel with water from 200 feet higher in the mine. this allowed me to plug in the charger just after blasting at the end of the day and not having to run a generator at night to charge the battery

[@durango5848]

Was that the sixteen to one mine by any chance?

[@anned8634]

@@durango5848 no i ran a mine next door to the 16 to 1

[@OhioGrandma46]

@durango5848 presumably it was since 16 to 1 was the only mine in that area that was operating at that point.

[@anned8634]

@@OhioGrandma46 we kept a low profile and only a few locals knew we were operating.

[@AWSmith1955]

your found matchbooks were pre-1973 because, In 1973, federal safety laws required that strikers be placed on the backside of matchbooks instead of the front. I remember this change,

[@mikehawk120]

It is informative, thank you. We lose this info as time goes on, I’m happy to read it, thank you for your time down there sir!

[@ostrich67]

Mizpah Hotel is still in business in Tonopah NV. Built in 1907.

[@preiter20]

I think this may be the best "resurrection" video you have ever done, and that's saying something! Great video Shango!

[@chrisingle5839]

Even had a roto-tweebulator.

[@KenSilvers]

@@chrisingle5839 And sparkleage.

[@KenSilvers]

Shango is his electronical handle... His mine handle is I believe Boxxy, Boxy, or Bauxy as in Bauxite.

[@vonyinzer]

Very cool explore! I was waiting to see you take off down the mine on the trammer. must have been hard to resist using it to explore.

[@alexb.1320]

Now that was one heck of a find! Nice to see a mine that hasn't been relieved of all its operational bits and peices, and still working piece at that.

[@Askjeffwilliams]

wow ....a working loc-e ( tram ) now thats great .... I am impressed ....and that is hard to do ...... can't believe you lugged that all the way down there ....that mine is in fantastic shape..... don't let anyone know where it is at

[@andysmith1962]

I am with Jeff, let's keep this location secret. So, come on, let's go!

[@kayakpatadventures8229]

What a great demonstration of a working piece of equipment left behind. Gravity helped him get that battery pack down there but it's gonna take some sweat to get it back out again, I'm sure he will revisit this mine again ... that looks like too much fun.

[@waynegilberts8289]

@@kayakpatadventures8229 o

[@mxgirlnv]

Hey jeff anytime come on lets go! Your invited

[@billd.6847]

That was great hooking up the battery to the trammer and getting it operational. Reminded me of my 'Mighty Casey Ride'm railroad' back in 1970.

[@leehilton9932]

Awesome find there! Full of artifacts, and being able to fire off the mine loco was even better. Yall stay safe out there

[@SpaceWormMark]

THAT WAS EPIC! I cannot believe that worked!!!! Awesome video

[@minerscampkoipond6999]

Totally the coolest mine I've ever seen.

[@frederickmoller]

It reminds me of the Dome Gold Mine that I worked at for my first 29 years in mining, though our Mancha battery locos were 3x the size of the Lil Trammers, as our ore cars were what was termed a 5 ton ore car that wasn't coupled together by a chain, but a solid thick steel draw bar with holes on each end for a steel pin, btw the Dome Mine closed about 3 years ago after 117 years of operation, with plans to 'super pit' it.

[@katm2140]

What does super pit mean?

[@stevengill1736]

Means they'll dig it out completely into an open pit operation...

[@frederickmoller]

@@stevengill1736 They are in the planning phase to expand it to move a highway, the mill, and all other surface infrastructure including, the conctrete #8 Shaft to make The Century Pit, Goldcorp/Newmont own this mine now.

[@frederickmoller]

@@katm2140 a Bigger open pit than the two previous open pits...now today as of Aug.28/24 I'm not hearing 'anything' about the now called Century Open Pit, but the previously mined Pamour Pit all owned by Newmont about 5 miles east on the relocated HWY 101.

[@dougscott8161]

Wow! This is amazing, a mine with still operable equipment. It looks like it could be placed back in service with not too much effort, possible as a tourist attraction. Thanks for sharing an amazing find, stay safe.

[@SueGirling68]

Hi, that was really cool that the trammer just started straight up, awesome. Thanks for sharing. x

[@gfr2023]

You bring to us the forgotten sound of an underground train. Amazing

[@AmstradExin]

A little bit of cleanup and you've got an underground Disneyland! (:

[@rolfsinkgraven]

Great explore and very nice too see that train roll again.

[@southdownsway]

Really well appointed mine. Love the tramner too. Thanks for showing us.

[@maplewoodsp]

Great video! I like the trammer and phone equipment. The phones were likely made in Indianapolis.

[@wolfweighold823]

Danke für das hochladen und deine Mühe

[@jamesbrown3882]

It's really cool to see the history of mining that you show everyone.

[@davidflanagan1653]

Too freakin cool getting that tram running

[@trevin1691]

Fantastic job bringing life back to the locomotive! Super tour as well!

[@strietermarinesurvey1415]

I live ten miles from Flint you think the drinking water is bad you should see the Flint river, looks like a holding tank! Thanks for sharing great video!

[@wheeln24-79]

Now you need to fill the cars up and pull some weight. Cool stuff

[@Dumbrarere]

You guys actually got that thing working... that's really impressive. Now, if you could get permission from the land owners to take it out of the mines, I'd love to see the whole ore cart train donated to a railroad museum or something.

[@Locutus]

It would take far too long to get it to the surface, and have it transported to the museum.

[@TheSilmarillian]

amazing hello from Australia opal miner here

[@williamwintemberg]

Big Mine! Looks to be in good shape. Love the train!

[@boognow6728]

cool watching the ore cart move down the track made my day.

[@nealbrogan2010]

Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you and your family God bless you

[@hestheMaster]

Fantastic video Shango. Lots of cool stuff in this one!

[@MineExploration]

Powering up that loco was epic stuff, brilliant!

[@joecummings1260]

Changing polarity doesn't change direction of series wound or shunt wound DC motors. Changing polarity only reverses DC motors that use a permanent magnet field.

[@weekendrailroader]

Those "steps" on your throttle are known as "notches". That system is used on just about every electric locomotive out there. :)

[@gregorymalchuk272]

What kind of dc motor would this have been? Series or shunt? Do the notches cut in additional field windings?

[@erikellis3998]

@@gregorymalchuk272 the first one or two notches have resistors to keep it slow, then the last two notches add extra field windings

[@waltschannel7465]

Getting the loco to run. Awesome! Craziest moment? You all climbing that old wooden ladder at the end! 😣😜😁

[@computeraidedworld1148]

Literal dream of mine to see this stuff run again

[@AudioMobil]

What a great resurrection video! I've always waited for something like this to happen! Just like those ukrainian guys on KZbin (Kreosan) who went to live in Pripyat (Chernobyl) for a while and powered up lights in abandoned buildings using battery packs and inverters to see if something still works after all those years.

[@katherinekinnaird4408]

Amazing to see the tramer.

[@williambryant5946]

I'd love to have one of those dynamite boxes. Those are in crazy good shape.

[@PlanBProductioninc]

I kept thinking about Indiana Jones and the temple of doom lol great video u guys

[@jimmychanbers2424]

She cracks me up. Great video

[@kayakpatadventures8229]

I wonder how many amps that little tram pulls with a full load on it even at 40vdc I'll bet it's quite a bit.

[@Tachi778]

It's about 600 amps and it's good for these motors and wires used, wires are thick enough and motor coils are made with thick wires too.

[@sarahstrong7174]

You be careful & take good care of yourselves.

[@ZombieFre4k]

Wow, incredible that you made that loco run

[@zachfink3080]

Old school mechanical controller frickin sweet

[@stephenparsons3000]

Very interesting thankyou for the toower of this old mine

[@38911bytefree]

Me is like, you can go an continue with the mine exploring, I will play a bit with this train.

[@kimbra1132]

Gosh boxy what happened to the guys you always explore with? Miss the disco and bible study mine explores. Oh and the sparkle pony master charge. Great explore and the tram and ore car ride was great.

[@gunnyusmc4957]

Cool video my compliments sir

[@rodneyarmstrong3813]

Remember they only built fans too ventilation the dust because they were using dynamite. The fans were getting rid of the dust so much faster. The built ventilation shafts for oxygen the fans was too help keep the dust down. No fans are running and your not dead. Because of the ventilation built into the tunnels.

[@FurrySergal]

you should've brought a multimeter to see how many [micro]volts were left in that poor battery pack!! i've seen batteries much older that retain a surprising amount of energy.

[@Mike-01234]

That is so cool got that tram working must be a locked up mine no one gotten in there.

[@manikhan4940]

Hello hi love I'm Pakistan Rehamat Ail

[@TomokosEnterprize]

This is the best post I have seen from you bud.

[@judeodomhnaill9711]

Remarkable. I'm speechless.

[@stevengill1736]

The current that thing pulls should have smoked the smaller battery cables. But totally sparklepony framistan, dude! Next week, running the vertical hoist on a couple smartphone batteries? I hear it works great going down....up, maybe not so much...cheers.

[@stevengill1736]

BTW, motor-generator sets are what they used for radio gear too before they had solid state rectifiers and inverters. They called them dynamotors, and they worked really well for D.C. to D.C. applications, just like transformers for A.C., only not as efficient. Pretty cool old tech!

[@allfasten]

Pockett battery powers the train. Eat your heart out, Jetsons!

[@HeavyHaulKen]

That was impressive! Operable after years of nothing. What year was the last activity there?

[@applecounty]

I believe Brill Electric Tram cars utilised the same "stepped" variable speed control.

[@Asubuhi]

Thank you for making this video! I love it❤️❤️❤️❤️😎😎

[@steve1978ger]

boys and their toys :D edit: and girls

[@retr0bits545]

I know this may be hated upon but it would be awesome to see the trimmer go the full length of the mine

[@haroldishoy2113]

I think there is a Toyota Prius owner on top who wants their batteries back😁

[@billyhinton9155]

Hi I am a first time seeing your video and I like it ... Its nice you have your wife going on the mine with you... I'm looking forword to more videos, think you for the time to make this video...

[@mxgirlnv]

Not his wife

[@t.lnelson908]

That was awesome 😎

[@davep6977]

Cool video, thanks. Do you guys ever carry air bottles? Just in case

[@bcabmac]

Repowering and riding the cars, Epic!!!

[@wavesnbikes]

Amtrak: Takes years to Power the Acela Express... Mine Guy: Brings his own batteries and runs it on the Mainline... HIGHBALL.

[@docfoot316]

That was cool starting up the Trammer ,where can i get my tickets for a ride ,great to see , And those lovely beams of unused wood.gee wouln't the wood worker buffs love them.Great video ,Thanks.

[@Ratchet-strap-Garage]

This guy sounds like that shango guy on KZbin that restores old TVs and radios !

[@jimw7ry]

That's him! This is his mine exploration channel.

[@patricknoveski6409]

Is this a mine, or underground Railroad? Goes on forever!

[@kevinstaddon8517]

Like the battery pack (Info?) Have a similar (UK) loco in my garage.

[@perfectmaster42]

Thanks for making this!!!

[@richardstump4582]

Very Nice Set up

[@guohuaye12]

Your friend is Awesome, she knows more about the mines and their workings than some others I've watched. I'm sorry I don't know her name or if she is a Fan just exploring with you, But she could have her own show.

[@stanlamborn6796]

Did he call her Cristal then later say Honey. 🤷‍♂️ My hearing isn’t the greatest.

[@mxgirlnv]

He probably said look at that crystal and called her funny..... funny looking not honey sounds very similar...I could see how the 2 could be mixed up 😉🤫

[@stanlamborn6796]

KrYsTLe StOnE 😀 your probably right 👍🏻👍🏻

[@boscobeck9218]

veri nice video

[@alvarhanso5351]

Amazing video guys ❤️🇦🇺

[@chrisackerley1842]

Does the level the trammer is on lead to a surface portal? How else would they have gotten it down there? That elevator doesn't look strong enough to have lifted or lowered the trammer - it's too heavy!

[@JonathanH1253]

In most mines, including modern ones, vehicles and equipment are brought down in pieces and assembled inside the mine.

[@skookumchuckreefer978]

👍Very 😎 & entertaining,did any of the carts have consecutive serial#’s ?

[@TheDamageinc81]

New to this channel and I know this an older video but I appreciate the effort you guys put in to resurrecting that old tram. How long had it been sitting? Since the 60's?

[@ORV1868]

It's not a tram.

[@richardstump4582]

Interesting Ore Shout!

[@rickjohnson1632]

Cool vid shango 👍👍

[@johnhoon7069]

You need to get a black light you won't believe what you see

[@zarekpirkola7095]

While I’m sure this goes without saying for the vast majority of viewers, if you just discovered this channel and like the content he puts out, be sure to check out his other KZbin channel “ Shango066 ” lots of resurrection videos of vintage electronics.

[@zarekpirkola7095]

I don’t believe the other channel is linked to this one, so there may be some people who have yet to find it.

[@FastRoperN4]

Sweet I’ll take them for my mini mine

[@timtim8468]

I just came across a related safety film: SAFETY ON THE MOVE 1980s UK NATIONAL COAL BOARD MINE SAFETY TRAINING FILM

[@yd1074]

superbe reportage

[@TomokosEnterprize]

Great post folks !

[@blaneycrabbe3390]

wow MAN ! ! No one Else has made mine videos of this quality !

[@barrowpeter604]

That is Cool

[@theogdirkdiggler]

*HS.....major dopamine love*

[@applecounty]

What was mined here?

[@raydowley1038]

nice explore, would love to of seen if you had some extra batteries and unhooked the carts and use the tram to get about on that level

[@horatioyen256]

that so cool

[@garymckee8857]

When did this mine cease operations?

[@robertrhomejr4661]

Did you get to Tap Crystal do some in the mine n do some drilling

[@Joe.M]

Amazing that electric car still works. How long had it been sitting there?

[@jimw7ry]

Shango said since the 1960s.

[@richardstump4582]

InCreatable Mine!!

[@fmtelevison]

It would be nice if you were in some of the shots

[@jeffreyboarman4032]

It's a phase converter convert single phase sometimes a 3-phase