Practice Report: The Littrell fallout. Venables addresses staff changes, QB room, recruit reaction.

[@Ondatrumptrain]

As time passes I find myself wondering how tf we beat Auburn 😂

[@Valanahara]

Right 😂

[@Jewshiesty42069]

No turnovers

[@billquantrill4960]

Auburn sucks.

[@Flamerunner451]

Choking is what Auburn does best lol

[@bxj7614]

No turnovers and Payton Thorne. If you watch the replay of the Pick 6, it looks like Auburn called a flare/bubble pass to the top of the screen. Then, if you look at where Thorne throws the pass, there’s another defender (besides Kip) between the receiver and the ball.

[@mysteriousoklahoma777]

Move Kanak to offense…give the man the ball or let him block like JT Runnels. There is something special about Johns…he has that look.

[@TimStJohn-xp8rv]

100%

[@xkptwistblazex]

People think they make these changes to try and improve in season. You do it before seasons end to give you a head start on the coaching search. Those conversations take place during seasons with other team’s personnel.

[@allenharvey7141]

Hopefully both

[@xkptwistblazex]

@@allenharvey7141 usually in seasons changes do not work. We all though the defense would be better in 2018 after Mike was let go. There were points where it was worse under Ruffin, but Ruffin also hadnt been a DC in like a decade. My money would be on it not being a "night/day" difference but maybe they convert or move the ball in one/two more situations in a game where before they would not. Suffice to say, money betting is none of these assistants being retained. Because you arent going to attract the best OC if you hamstring his ability to build his staff.

[@MK007-YT]

​@@xkptwistblazex; Seems as though "CFB REALITY" is Hitting Sooner Nation square between the eyes. Seems any Lessons from last year in The Big 12 were Not too well Learned...

[@xkptwistblazex]

@@MK007-YT and what were those lessons exactly?

[@TheRealAMR-]

nothing against coach Seth, but his demeanor was very low energy. I heard a player after the Texas loss, say he didn't speak to the team afterwards. kind of an energy drainer. meanwhile, the defensive staff got the defensive players rallied up to whip someone.

[@MrBowen-ei3uu]

It was Bauer Sharp

[@stern_standard]

He gave me the I don’t care vibes

[@nathanrapp1133]

I doubt you could find someone who cared more about the offense than SL. Loves this university. Dealt a really bad hand this year and just couldn’t find a path to success

[@THarjo-ks6pf]

Time will tell. Can’t wait until softball season starts.😂

[@MK007-YT]

Guess Patty must Not know what she is doing... Wonder IF there is any Wisdom that can be Learned from National Championship Sports Programs. 🤔 🤔

[@THarjo-ks6pf]

@@MK007-YT truth

[@buddysims1366]

They showed Littrell calling plays and the look on his face was I am in over my head Sooo??

[@joelledbetter2926]

I know we have been beyond putrid but keep in mind we lost by 10 to Tennessee who beat alabama which has been the gold standard now we suck no doubt but i do think there is some good this team can still do i wont lay down just bc its been bad even if we lost every game id still hold out hope something can happen

[@PatriotParty]

Glad you brought up that Zac doesn't have any OU ties. I was mid typing that point when I got to that portion lol

[@MRSooner49]

I bet we keep both QBs. I’ve got a good feeling.

[@riley5329]

Hard to replace coaches like Switzer, Stoops and Saban.

[@AnalogAirwavesWAAIR]

The last question was the best

[@goatman_chan5323]

The season is chalked, commit to Arnold and let’s restart next September

[@chaddavis6877]

Why are you guys not talking about number 15 Thompson more? He’s the most underrated best receiver we have.

[@TheRealAMR-]

the Rudy's show was one of the best ones. wished they would live stream that show.

[@MK007-YT]

Why is A Texas Company Sponsoring OU Sports Programs....? Don't think that Billy Sims has gone out of business Or Braums Or Sonic Or Griffin Or Devon Or Williams OR Rotate between Tribal Casinos even ( have 5 Civilized Tribes or other OK Tribes outright Rejected such an Arraingment ? Is it Against NCAA Rules...). Why continually $end Okie $$$$$$$'s $outh of The Red River, to ENRICH TX ... ? OK ❤❤❤ !! Tx aka RUST Color aka Horns Down !! 😮 🤔 🫤 😡😡

[@GeorgeVeazey]

In hindsight, why would we ever think that Seth could Coach the QB’s, and why did we not have a QB Coach for two young inexperienced guys?

[@oaktreebc1]

I agree with you 1000% if they are talented enough to get a scholarship from the university of Oklahoma , then they should be able to put a hat on a hat. I am not asking any fancy pulling or anything just block the person in front of you and if you are not talented enough to do that then your scholarship should be pulled when OU needs all the talent they can find I cannot understand why they cannot find a place for Thompson, he might be an outstanding receiver or shoot, maybe noseguard :) but use the talent that you have on the bench.

[@MK007-YT]

Whoa !! That makes almost too much sense. 😐

[@Valanahara]

Mike Shanahan would be the slam dunk hire. His strategy now would fit nicely with who we have returning next year (apparently). I think this makes him a better fit for OU than Marion, in particular, who you see a lot of 21 and 22 personnel packages from. Watching the games recently of Indiana, you see a lot of 11 personnel, 12 personnel, and some 10. If we could come out in a 10 personnel package with Burks, Anderson, Anthony, Farooq…. That would be scary for any defense and opens up so much offensively. I like how Marion’s offense utilizes less and maximizes that with mismatches found in over leverage of strong/weak looks but I don’t know if 2 rbs and only 2 WR looks works efficiently enough in the SEC. If we do have those skill players return next year, I think Shanahan fits in great. He’s only making 800k right now too. Easy double offer from OU.

[@billquantrill4960]

Is he going to bring Elway with him? Lol.

[@MuffinTable111]

Shanahan to OU would also be a kickass headline. Imagine someone who only watches the NFL reading "Oklahoma hires Mike Shanahan to be the school's new Offensive Coordinator."

[@Valanahara]

@@billquantrill4960 lmao one could only wish

[@Flamerunner451]

I honestly don’t want Marion no matter who we have on the team. Gimmicky offense is cool and fun against the no names but won’t work against any bigger school

[@Valanahara]

@@MuffinTable111 it’s a headline I seriously need to see. If we can nab him, we return the apparent guys Brent said we would, my God we would be hard to stop.

[@northface484]

D'Marco Murray should be on the Hot Seat and it should be on High...!!!...Tawee Walker Stats...104-5.65-9TD-565Tyds.

[@vance9090]

He can’t coach….😂

[@northface484]

@@vance9090 It sure appears that way....

[@TexasSiege]

Taylor Tatum needs to come to Texas and win the Doak in Sark’s offense

[@northface484]

@@TexasSiege LOL...!!!

[@Im_Old_Gregg]

I dont think its likely but i wonder if starting Jackson the rest of the way could keep both QBs here next season. Mike being an Oklahoma legacy maybe he stays around and develops for a couple years and becomes the next guy

[@bdevil3]

Cayden Green did not enter the portal, he was tampered with. And we should be doing absolutely the same thing w OL this offseason versus waiting on lesser OL to enter the portal.

[@JB-sc1tg]

BV has too much integrity to pull that tactic. He is honest to a fault.

[@shadowone5519]

From us to Missouri yes tampered with because ppl like Gabe have talked about etc. he was contacted before he entered the portal and his dad went out for bids before he even entered the portal

[@allenharvey7141]

If you ain't tampering, your not trying 😂

[@mikewilliams801]

​@@allenharvey7141True loser mentality.

[@MK007-YT]

​@@shadowone5519; How does The NCAA Defopine "tampering" ...?

[@rufneksooner]

At 5:03 did Schmidty just kick somebody. No wonder all the players are hurt lol

[@ryanmckinney-ec6jf]

Still don’t understand what’s so complicated about the QB situation. Why is it any different than when the season started? If we want to keep JA and MH both or just one I doubt we would allow anyone to outbid in NIL and we are still the University of Fucking Oklahoma. To be a QB here is big time and both of these guys dreamed of playing at OU. Changes are being made but as far as how they have been played, playing ball my whole life through college, everyone gets benched at some point and you don’t just quit and want to change teams just because you played bad and got pulled. I don’t understand that line of thinking. MH was going to play behind JAnfor 2 years to begin with and we are still in that track and he has a chance to beat him out if he can. I just think you’re making a bigger deal out of it George. We as players can lose our jobs or get replaced whether that’s permanent or temporary. If you get pulled because you played bad and you were given every and fair opportunities to prove yourself, you don’t just pick Jo the ball and go home and change schools. Jesus, we compete, we have pride and with the OC situation being resolved I am going to assume it’s just as exciting to stay at OU with a new OC than it is to go to another school, also have a new OC and learn another system and learn a whole other program. I just think it’s an easier decision for both of those guys to stay than what you are feeling Georgy;0)

[@tylerwalker5607]

I Have the same outlook on the QB situation

[@adamrusch7112]

BV can say he wants guys that commit to OU all he wants if Bedenbaugh is not retained Fausai & Foji stay with those commitments

[@JimmieInBA]

Redshirt all OL freshmen!

[@allenharvey7141]

Ol haul from portal was hot crap, we lost whole line and green and everyone but most ou fans didnt want to admit it, plus no receivers happened to us this year. I didnt want to realize it either. But here we are with the oline.

[@Im_Old_Gregg]

It takes multiple years of failure to get to this point with the o-line. It takes bad evaluation and/or development for 2-3 years to get to the point where you have no serviceable linemen

[@allenharvey7141]

@@Im_Old_Gregg agreed

[@MK007-YT]

​@@Im_Old_Gregg; That is a tragic & stark Reality, IF true.... 🫤

[@ckrumme2331]

Im out on JJF calling the plays. I want to see what Kevin Johns can do calling the plays. You never know maybe JJF learned something under riley and lebby

[@TheDonutman44]

Can someone please tell me about Casey Thompson and reason why he isn’t given any chance of playing?? Is he still hurt? Is he not that good? He HAS experience so was wondering why he wouldn’t be given a chance if able?? Thx! BOOMER!

[@shadowone5519]

Personally I question if either QB is going to be the future. I almost think after some experience maybe Hawkins but not sure. Arnold holds on to the ball too long which creates issues so not sure how that will go. Hawkins it is hard to tell because he has lost all confidence it appears. I would like to see Hawkins stay because I think he has a big upside but guess we will see

[@chuckkearney9246]

Man play in this situation they they have no control over! They both need to get a pass this year. The coaching staff has let them down.

[@shadowone5519]

@@chuckkearney9246I guess but guess we will see. Both may be frustrated enough to leave and then have none and have to bring one in. I wouldn’t blame them.

[@McclainCountyMigrators]

I don’t think either QB has a chance to hold the ball to long. Hawkins throwing footwork is atrocious (heavy on front foot). Only upside is his mobility, throws the ball hard but no spin,average accuracy. Zero deep ball. He has a lot of development left.

[@MK007-YT]

Does it really matter as long as The O-Line is M.I.A. ? 🤨

[@misterb1080]

Realistic expectation? 14-20 points a game. That’s with the defense giving you the ball on the downhill side.

[@dustinwest2499]

it isnt all on the o line they had bauer sharpe solo blocking a 1st round defensive end multiple times against sc

[@tonynorris3212]

What ever happened with jacoby Johnson playing wide out

[@felicelgato59]

We need Patton as a offense coach

[@mikebennett6421]

I dont expect great at this point. Id settle with a pulse.

[@seanakima50515e]

I hope we can grab Shanahan after watching a couple of their games back and looking at the route combinations and how he calls plays.. he would be our best option.. They use a lot of 10 personnel, (4 Receivers) and they use the entire field. Sideline to sideline, The QB always seems to have a dump off route if the first 2 reads aren't open. They also used a lot of 11, too. (Three receivers 1 TE) They have a powerful run game as well. They run downhill, not side to side, a lot of ISO, tosses, and sweeps (with cutback lanes). I would pay him what he wanted and get his ass to Norman.

[@Valanahara]

10 personnel with our hurt guys back next year and the run game explodes out of sheer respect for those guys. That would be arguably the best depth at WR in the SEC. We have to capitalize on it. Hope we don’t fumble this opportunity to get the right guy.

[@MK007-YT]

Hoosier to Sooner... 😐🤔😐🤔

[@rcrosier]

The play calling is one thing, but our biggest problem is lack of coaching at the skill/execution/discipline level. Doesnt matter what play you run if you are totally befuddled at the point of attack.

[@MK007-YT]

Good Point & Talent MUST be available also.

[@chuckkearney9246]

Why don’t you think they both will stay? Hawkins should redshirt more development. With JA back in it’s the same as they thought it would be at the beginning of the year.

[@JB-sc1tg]

Because Hawkins knows he's better than Arnold. He outplayed him all through camp. He knows he can go somewhere else and start. Gotta do what's best for him.

[@chuckkearney9246]

@@JB-sc1tg I see where you are coming from. It’s obvious that he still needs development. Why won’t people look how manning is waiting his turn.

[@MK007-YT]

​@@chuckkearney9246; Win Now ( Not easy ! ). Will see how JMU-Hoosiers fare at Seasons End...

[@augustuspalmer4844]

Let's go ahead and start on their separation papers

[@errickbarnett7963]

I would love either shanahan or Marion

[@Valanahara]

@@errickbarnett7963 Brent ruled out Marion in a recent media availability. “We won’t be switching to the triple option” which is precisely what the go-go offense is. He can be removed from contention.

[@incrediblehulk9900]

Do like Texas did..one year they spent a lot of money only on offense line

[@stern_standard]

SL gave me I don’t care vibes

[@terrytriton2265]

Lmao ,,let George take a few snaps with those young Olinemen getting a few reps...

[@robbymartin4004]

Tarquin is really the only portal pick up that’s decent, and that’s definitely not gonna win you any Oline awards!!

[@robbymartin4004]

I guess I should point out I’m talking about our Oline pickups!!

[@markblankenship6233]

Have baker Mayfield join the headset.

[@alex_reyes_6]

Kelley stays losing to McGuinness though, George is little brother

[@c0dyJ]

Bye Seth

[@felicelgato59]

I keep listening about the holistic crap. What even holistic does. I see the offensive walking around while the ball still in play.is holistic mean being lazy? Then you are full of holistic. I don't think the holistic look is working. What about busting a s s like the defense does. The defense dosen't have a holistic look. They kick ass till the weasel

[@robertwalegir8677]

S S D D N N !!! T G A T D 🤔🤔🤔

[@Blue-vq7vm]

Hire Arkansas OC

[@hugolongjohnson5115]

Not sure why Arnold was benched in the first place, cause now he’s gonna transfer

[@JB-sc1tg]

Mark my words, Hawkins will end up being the better QB of the two. He has great work ethic and is willing to put his body on the line. Unfortunately, we are going to run him off by sticking with Arnold. JA has the same problem that Rattler had (and still has in the NFL). It's something between the ears that can't be fixed.

[@tylerwalker5607]

JA is the better arm and QB. Hawkins is the superior athlete. JA will end up being great

[@JB-sc1tg]

@tylerwalker5607 JA has a slightly better arm. That doesn't make him a better QB. JA has Rattler syndrome. He makes a read but gets the ball out too late. He is constantly throwing into double or triple coverage, going all the way back to the bowl game last year. He himself admitted he has to wrestle with his nerve before every game. That's stuff that stays with you. Rattler had a better arm than both Hawkins and Arnold. But he never got better because you can't fix issues that occur in between the ears. Hawkins, on the other hand, is a freshman who has shown he can make great passes if the o-line gives him any time. He is ready to risk his body for the good of the team. He is known to be a gym rat and someone who watches film vigorously. He has now gone against 4 of the best defenses in the country. Of course he is going to struggle as a true freshmen. Arnold struggled against Houston and Tulane. I don't care how highly rated he was out of high school. The eye test says Hawkins will be the superior player. Hope I'm wrong for the sake of the team, but I'm telling you, Arnold's mental issues cannot be fixed.

[@MK007-YT]

​@@JB-sc1tg; Clarification please... why are those "mental issues" Unfixable ? Are you saying that Rattler made The League only because there is a lack of NFL QB Talent...? 😐 🤔

[@RonaldDub60]

🙆🏻‍♀️🤷‍♀️🏈

[@incrediblehulk9900]

Well if I'm smarter than a 5th grader... You have an offensive coordinator from Duke who is a quarterback coach...but you fucked off the season because Latrell your buddy.. hell I'm lost

[@evi1ways]

We're not going to get an elite OC. An elite OC is either going to 1. Get a HC job or 2. Get well-paid in a comfortable OC job. Zero-shot a Notable OC comes in if BV is on the hot seat. Why come in as an OC if your HC could be fired the next year and then you're out too when the next HC is hired. You're wasting your time and success leverage.

[@johnnysellers8063]

BV loves this program, players, and coaches to much to not make it right. He’ll get it figured out. We’re lucky to have him.

[@MK007-YT]

Agreed.

[@briankessler3501]

💯 Boomer SOONER!

[@Wes-b7v]

To late

[@raynardt]

JA is garage hes had more than enough games to prove he is the man, and he is terrible

[@jondrew1]

I’m hoping that Kevin Soerry decommits and we can pursue someone else. I’m not at all a believer in him. He does not seem like an OU caliber quarterback from what I’ve seen

[@Texas76302]

Listen to his voice and his cadence, this is a losing coach he’s not gonna inspire his players, even with losses you have to be motivating and he can’t and he’s only in his third season getting paid tremendous amounts of money, the coach who just beat him is paid fifth of what he’s paid, he should never have fired Gundy, especially for the nothing that he did

[@jstand6846]

Why are we having dudes coach two fresh QBs when they have never coached QBs before? Also, why are we letting dudes call plays for the first time when they've never called plays before? This seems like common sense. We need experience.

[@O-Heyguys]

You just want to hire someone mid week and have them install a new offense in 3 days? 😂

[@jstand6846]

@O-Heyguys no, that's even dumber than hiring people to do something that they've never done. That's my issue, why were they hired in the first place.

[@Boi-xc4dk]

@@jstand6846Kevin Johns has coached qb’s before. Litrell had had called plays but he isn’t an option anymore.

[@shadowone5519]

Kevin Johns has. For a decade he was a QB coach and/or OC but has been out scouting for OU and wasn’t involved in plans or our QBs much since been there several months as an analyst so far so letting Finley call plays (😱) which has not except a bowl game for Missouri but read Kevin doing game plans so hopefully that helps Finley

[@kenthatfr]

Johns has coached QBs before and more importantly, he WAS a QB in HS and college. So at least he'll have some background with the guys. I never understood having a former fullback who's never coached QBs to be the QB coach.