A New Heir to "Banished" Approaches! - Settlements Rising

[@HansWurst1569]

In my opinion by far the best banished heir is Foundation. The sheer mod and dev support it has is just unseen in most city builders.

[@Runetrantor]

Or Ostriv.

[@kaiserotto8715]

Best one so far is Farthest frontier since its pretty much the same except the addition of combat which you can turn off

[@dalanoyo]

You should look at settlement survival. Basically a banished clone with a lot of improvements

[@sirarchibaldblake4366]

Foundation FTW until Manor Lords.. 😁

[@aaronbaker2186]

Also life is feudal forest village

[@MatthewChenault]

When I saw “random cards to choose,” I instantly said “yeah, no, this is not going to be a successor to Banished.” What makes Banished appealing is the fact it doesn’t have all of those (literal) wildcard elements. It simply places you in the environment, with some people, and allows for you to build how you want to build. The mechanics are intuitive; no senseless rolls or random cards that increase [x] by 5%. No game that has a random card system should be considered a successor to “banished.” Rather, they are their own branch of game that builds upon some of the ideas of “Banished,” but adds in the card element to appeal to Magic, The Gathering fans. For a game to be a true successor to Banished, it needs to heavily improve upon the mechanics of Banished while remaining true to the formula Banished outlined.

[@DemonKing19951]

So basically you believe a banished successor needs to focus on consistency with the main replay ability coming from map generation and possible events? I definitely believe believe any city builder style game does benefit from something that forces you to modify your strategy/planned town lay out, but I can see where you're coming from if that's what you mean.

[@MatthewChenault]

@@DemonKing19951, exactly! The challenge should be the environment and how you manage your city. Having random stat buffs for simply playing an RNG mechanic - without putting any real effort into it - is needless and breaks the immersion. If your game is built on survival, then you have to build upon that premise and minimize features that don’t aid in that experience.

[@renealbrechtsen9743]

Completely agree with you :)

[@dalanoyo]

If you want a banished successor then you want settlement survival. It is almost a clone but with a lot of greatly expanded upon features.

[@DemonKing19951]

@@MatthewChenault Well, I would argue there certain forms of RNG would work but... I guess I can see what you mean about the cards, there doesn't seem to be much of an attempt to blend them into the world. Personally if you're going to have some sort of magical RNG system in world I would have just made it actual magic winds or something with questionable properties. Stuff like them having varied strength over time or shifting side effects every few years to make you reevaluation how much you want to relay on it. That way you could incorporate some new fantastical industries that will either be a great boon to the colony or a necessary evil if an industry really needs the push despite the current down sides.

[@vladg5124]

You said something about Colonial Charter mod for Banished. There is another mod that contains Colonial Charter and a lot of other mods combined. It's called Mega Mod 9 (I think that is the last version) and makes Banished pretty decent even today. And the mod devs are still working on the mod and it's being updated often and bugs are fixed. Maybe we will see you giving it a try. A good way to compare all of the new "banished like" games with modded Banished

[@Cakemagic1]

It's kind of crazy Banished is literally like 9 - 10 years old and there's no fully released, true successor to it lol.

[@TheCaptainbeefylog]

The UI bar at the top, resource icons, build-tree and a few other things look awfully like Farthest Frontier.

[@sethgoldfels4764]

This games looks fun, please make a series of it when it fully comes out!

[@airking2883]

Woah,never been so early. So many new "banished" game these days though.

[@DemonKing19951]

Even have sort of a dungeon based city builder coming out! Think it'd be better if they went full dark elves in a giant cavern type situation though.

[@airking2883]

@@DemonKing19951 oh,what game is that?

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

In this family, (shall we call it), of games like Banished this reminds me very much of Farthest Frontier with less realistic graphics, not that Farthest Frontier is overly realistic but it is a bit more so. Thanks for the heads up Pravis as I do very much enjoy games in this genre'. Take care and God Bless...

[@GeorgeNoodles]

I agree, in fact, having played both Banished, Forest Life and Farthest Frontier and still play all three (I'm a retired hermit). , I liked the menus, somewhat but cannot enjoy that type of artwork I gave cartoony comic book type things and prefer real - as possible - to reality... but of course others will really love it so I expect it will be a good play.

[@teawitkrispy7275]

honestly the demo limiting the amount of ppl you could have in your villager kills it

[@vfrostbane225]

im apprehensive about the card mechanic. what makes games like Banished so good is the consistency. You know whats possible and you arent enabled or disabled by RNG. just how you build and manage everything. This having that card system does away with that.

[@canertonbul675]

enhancemnet cards can be turned off at new game settings, and you can play just fine without them.

[@vfrostbane225]

@@canertonbul675 Oh nice. Glad thats an option

[@Sorutirei]

They're Farthest Frontier but with cuter graphics

[@_i_a_n_]

Why is this music so familiar

[@AllenYCLau]

Nice to see this fun game coming out! Praise the Heir! Praise Gimli!

[@lilmssimsalot]

yeah the more i watch this the more i’m like just get settlement survival! but im gonna play this one too

[@sbg911]

The addition of military units, defensive structures and raiders is the very reason why this is not a succesor to Banished. The very attraction of Banished was its approach to and focus on sandbox survival strategy and resource/people management against the elements, not building armies and fighting - there were and are plenty of other games that have that. Unless that is a part of this game that can be switched off, its not B2.

[@GabRi3l0000]

Its very similar like the game called farthest frontier

[@myrrhs01]

With these graphics, I'd guess more it's trying to be the next Going Medieval.

[@SullySadface]

I like this version of The Settlers Dang, winter be painful

[@lilmssimsalot]

i feel like settlement survival is pretty similar and sooo fun

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Glorious news

[@norneaernourn8240]

I don't see this as a successor to Banished at this point. Maybe doing away with combat and single purpose resources would help (eg: charcoal). Also, not a fan of items decay unless there are mechanics later on to mitigate them. The area of work placement is great. So that's 3 pluses and 1 minus for me. Side note, in order to balance out forest cutting in Banished, I usually use 2 Foresters. The planting one has 2x the workers of the cutting one. That usually keeps the forest lush. Besides, wood is cheap to import so it makes sense to keep forests up and get herbs instead.

[@licensi6571]

For Banished-style games, I recomnend Bastide, Ostrive and Settlement Survival, These are all early-stage games but definitely worth a try.

[@HeIsAnAli]

I recall Pravus having played Ostriv at least, even lampshading the behind-the-scenes issues with its development--by which I refer to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[@jennieswensson463]

👍👍 would like to see more when they unlock more things.

[@skulzmcdeath2326]

It looks very similar to Settlement Survival with the exception of the cards

[@mrharvest]

That flickering needs to be fixed asap, not just when the devs have time

[@tigeriussvarne177]

Praise Pravus

[@majogl188]

I thought settlement survivor is the successor to banished

[@mikemccormack8993]

Soooo... Banished Colonial Charter?

[@smudolinithegreatdragobear2433]

Looks to me like a less pretty version of Farthest Frontier.

[@Delritho]

I've been hoping for a Cultures type successor, the games were quite fun, but being from the early 2000's they are now quite dated.

[@elfinkenshi6437]

AoE 2 for RTS? More like Dune 2! That's true classic

[@DavidAxel010]

AoE is superior tho

[@HurricaneSA]

I'm just going to ask one question. Why would I play this rather than the OG Banished or Settlement Survival?

[@gambit5181]

When Rimwolrd?

[@lynno7423]

I hope there going to give the ability to turn off raids, I love banished, but my game broke and I have been looking for a replacement ever since

[@canertonbul675]

both raids and enhancement cards can be turned off

[@sleepyBear33]

This looks like a direct copy of farthest frontier

[@Vibycko]

11:56 Is Pravus British?

[@freiesWild95]

This game reminds me a lot of "Fartest Frontier", but the graphics are worse and it's less complex and challenging.

[@panagiotisfotopoulos3228]

This looks like 💩 next to Medieval Dynasty

[@sariosario6631]

Card system and banished is not go hand in hand .... this is not banished heir

[@romankersey8101]

2 minutes in and this game is instantly better than Banished just with the existence of archers and swordsmen alone. It's what banished was missing, combat. Banished would've had a lot more success if it had implemented some form of medieval combat. Hopefully these dev's or this dev learns from banished mistakes and failures, if they don't it will take the same path as banished and die a few years after release. There are two key things required for a successful game like this and like banished, some form of actual combat, and mod support. Otherwise the game will die, mod support isn't required but it's certain to greatly increase the games lifespan. Case in point Stronghold, I don't care for the game one bit but it's old and very successful. Banished could've easily surpassed stronghold in my opinion if it either had combat already implemented, or enough mod support to implement combat. A great example for the importance of mod support is Stalker and anomaly, much older than banished, about 7 years older, a bit older than Stronghold, and it's very much alive still. For a city builder to survive it must implement combat or it won't generate enough of a fan base to fund development, it can be an optional part of the game but it must exist for a game to sell, and if it doesn't sell it will die, people love conflict and conflict sells.

[@sbg911]

Sorry dude but I couldn't disagree more. The very reason Banished was so successful (and it was, it made Luke H. a very rich man) was it was a sandbox strategy game without combat. There were plenty of other build games with combat around at its release, but the focus on tactics, preplanning and forethought rather than just building the biggest army and killing and conquering is what set it apart. It is a survival game, not a killing game. The lack of combat is exactly what attracted its legion of fans. And that's also the reason why it's not the successor to Banished.

[@DarkDragon357]

Pravus should play more democracy 4. i would love to see a hardest difficulty america run. day 301. First!

[@razeguy9639]

Almost a year

[@PugnaciousProductions]

@@razeguy9639Yep, and he’ll probably keep going after that too.

[@stevearnold7337]

This is farthest frontier but less realistic and with rng cards mechanic

[@playtoyappz]

Poor knock--off of Farthest Frontier. Played half hour and got bored, gave up fast. Unlike other games of the same genre, it doesn't give you everything you need to have a steady start, as soon as you place down the houses it starts to rush you to produce shoes but there are no animals to hunt for leather, can't accept new villagers because food and resources are running out too fast, etc., very poor balance.

[@merijnkuijpers2960]

Day 102 of asking for HOI4 TNO