Praying Mantis Kung Fu - AMAZING KATA

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Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace

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@melosaurrn
@melosaurrn 11 жыл бұрын
As a Seven Star practitioner, that is not a seven star stance... this whole form is a joke. so many opportunities to strike you in your vital areas because you leave them wide open... And last time I checked, a mantis doesn't have a beak.
@kylebacon9967
@kylebacon9967 11 жыл бұрын
This is why Karate stylists can't do Kung Fu forms. First. It's not a "Beak." Its a "Claw." The primary tool of Mantis Kung Fu is for the Mantis CLAW to trap and grab. I've never seen a Mantis poke it's prey with it's claws. Second. The Mantis system doesn't focus on pressure points of nerve endings. Those are covered in other animals. Third. There is no such thing as a "Mantis Kick." What was done could be classified as an outside crescent kick at best. Fourth. At about the 4:30 mark you cover a "transitional stance." This would be a cross-legged stance. However, the stance you're claiming to be well defined and need to accentuate is done incorrectly. If you spent 5 minutes in a Quan learning from a Sifu who was worth their salt and they were covering stance work in the Praying Mantis they would show you one of only 5 stances. The cross legged stance being one. Your rear knee should be inside the pocket of the lead leg acting as support. But you need to sit lower in your stance to get that pocket and proper depth. Lastly. Calling a Kung Fu form a "Kata" is like asking a Karate Stylist to display a Kung Fu form... you just don't.
@Koryuhoka
@Koryuhoka 10 жыл бұрын
Efraim Godah That's correct. He never trained in real martial arts in his life. He's a fraud.
@xXicedwolfXx
@xXicedwolfXx 11 жыл бұрын
Even his dogs look at him like what the fuck are you doing
@Koryuhoka
@Koryuhoka 10 жыл бұрын
His dog knows better than all the idiots here who defend him. I believe they are all his accounts, because no one can be that ignorant to see so many comments saying the guy is a fraud, and not realize he is.
@gymnistico
@gymnistico 10 жыл бұрын
I think this routine should be renamed "Please roundhouse kick me in the kidney."
@martialartstips5177
@martialartstips5177 5 жыл бұрын
U mean liver
@carloscosham3314
@carloscosham3314 4 жыл бұрын
Guy gives you room for both, if your foot is big enough.
@ATGSblog
@ATGSblog 11 жыл бұрын
Kata, isn't that Japanese? Mantis, isn't that Chinese? Beef teriyaki is very different from sesame beef.. pure definition of a gwia-lo
@davidjarman2986
@davidjarman2986 7 жыл бұрын
Haha yes gwai lo he is!
@fx02zbn
@fx02zbn 11 жыл бұрын
I like the Dog style Kung fu, they just sit there looking bored but ready to snap into action.
@Totentanz23
@Totentanz23 11 жыл бұрын
A mantis doesn't have a beak. The mantis FIST is supposed to represent it's claws for punching (with the back of the wrist), hooking, grasping, and locking. Look at the picture of any mantis and you'll see what the form is trying to emulate. It's claws. Go ahead and google mantis beak and mantis fist.
@kring3l0rd
@kring3l0rd 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Jake Mace, thank you for your video. after 2:24 seconds i realised i've been doing praying mantis my entire life. i practice judo and every time anything martial arts comes by in my life, i try and practice it. and i try and practice kicks and punches and throws which i'm simply too weak and small for yet maybe there's an adaptation i could create. the way you did that "reverse roundhouse kick", well that's funny! i figured out that kick on my own and now i see that it's legit! to all the ones offended by how this is not traditional, Bruce Lee shared his wisdom by breaking with tradition. Ip man, assuming i studied this correctly, didn't bother tradition for the sake of tradition either. tradition holds the ultimate value. but that doesn't save my life if i just so happen to be a horrible student. This man with this video taught me something I could save myself with. tradition doesn't make you arrogant about tradition. if i understand anything about the philosophies behind martial arts, you cannot allow yourself to be attached to tradition. you would make tradition feel rigid and old. I'm just a black belt trying to improve uppon himself. This video was very helpful to my life. It can be very lonesome to be a black belt. you have everyone's blessing to study and discover on your own but the issue with that, you are on your own. each randori i have to figure whether or not i incorporated tegniques, thoughts, feelings, philosophies, experiences, into my judo succesfully to the point i can walk away with the Ippon of that tuesday night. Usually i get schooled as much as i school my partners. to me martial arts are just like growing flowers: you're sad if yours doesn't bloom. you're happy if you see yours showing its beauty. i remember my yellow belt partner (secretly third dan aikido) throwing me in such a correcting manner that I grew as a human being! he threw me with an aikido Goshi Nage! and afterwards he explained to me how he did it! I tend to jump in and push back at first. that leaves me open for an attack like that. come to think of it, I need to humble my hips in order to throw as beautiful as he does. anyway, let's not crush the plant this man grew. However, i cannot forsake my duty to just speak out and hopefully say something useful. I feel like Jake talks about hitting a target. May I humbly suggest this? focus on the form, not the target. in a fight there might be tenthousand targets to hit. just trust the form to hit either of them and be effective. Just trust the tradition of the form. I can understand the hurt I read. But as imperfect as an individual can be, he's also just trying to live a life as a martial artist and sharing what he knows. at 4 minutes I hear him and it hits me: this is how you sell martial arts as a workout. fitness schools just BEG for an effective method to sell. nothing wrong trying to make a living helping people lose weight. fitness is just rather flashy and you just need to sell it. conditioning, flexibility, self defence, mastery of the mind, anything goes on that poster. to insult it is to not understand it. maybe he's just like your average workout going guy that descided he's grown so much from it that he wants to give back. you just HAVE TO forgive his overenthousiasm. I do not frown uppon people criticising. I just felt like expressing constructive criticism towards the ones criticising; or something like that. please don't be offended and please understand that I'm just a guy trying to learn.
@InternalkungfuNl
@InternalkungfuNl 11 жыл бұрын
Somebody please stop this guy. He is an insult to everything traditional kungfu is.
@RealKungFu
@RealKungFu 11 жыл бұрын
Nope! We have been going for over 15 years and will continue for another 85 + years!
@InternalkungfuNl
@InternalkungfuNl 11 жыл бұрын
ShaolinCenter At least find a Sifu (that means master, teacher, father) then and stop calling what you are doing kungfu. Every true student of a Chinese Sifu who teaches traditional kungfu would respect and mention his teacher. The fact that you don't do that... everybody already knows enough. So find a teacher and be horrified at what you've been selling as kungfu. Every video you say, Awesome, Greatest, Super, Secret...that is the cheapest of ways to try to get more views on youtube. I showed your video to my Sifu, 3 seconds was enough. "Ahhh money talks bullshit walks", was his reply. Then he turned away.
@kobe51
@kobe51 10 жыл бұрын
internalkungfunl Just curious, who is your Sifu? Did he say specifically what was wrong with Mace's form?
@InternalkungfuNl
@InternalkungfuNl 10 жыл бұрын
egglot12 I've trained tonglong with Mike martello. Who did Mei hua tonlong, babu tonglong,... . This is just not anything like tonglong. I myself run a xingyi and Bagua school. my current master is sifu Eleonora. As i said a Chinese kungfu student is proud of his lineage, Mace never mentions his shifu. The alingements in his forms are of. There is just no beginning at where this is not kungfu. Butt sticking out, shoulders raising up, knees going left and right, bowstance is off, horsestance is wrong (feet facing out), the kicks, and so on and so on... but this is the last reaction i'm gonna do because it is just not worth the time.
@InternalkungfuNl
@InternalkungfuNl 10 жыл бұрын
and you honnestly think a beginners form lets you strike with one finger alllll the time. beginning forms in everykungfu system focus on simple hand techniques and fists.
@chata9871
@chata9871 11 жыл бұрын
you guys should go to a traditional mantis school and try them out to see the difference in your style to a real traditional. you will find what you lack.
@bryanmark6858
@bryanmark6858 11 жыл бұрын
I really don't give a shit about what the "critics" say is the right or wrong moves, but I really admire that you are a martial artist and continue to keep these beautiful moves alive. The great founding fathers of martial arts from China and all over the world would be proud to have you as their disciple. Whoever is born to be your children would be lucky because their father knows his "stuff" and acts instead of chatting on social media like us lol love your videos man. SUBSCRIBED!
@GMSplague
@GMSplague 11 жыл бұрын
hardfugoo1, you are correct about there being many styles, but I doubt Mantis has "Beaks", lol, Cranes have beaks, so it makes him look amateurish, like he doesn't really know so he calls it what it would be in Crane, like its a beak but modified to a mantis. If he was just posting as a student, that'd be alright, but if you are posting to teach, or promote yourself as a teacher, I think you should use the correct terms. To each his own, though. Have fun.
@RckChalkJHawk
@RckChalkJHawk 11 жыл бұрын
This is NOT real Mantis style.. but for those of you who think Mantis style is useless in a fight... u know nothing! watch the movie Bushido man for the most epic Mantis style fight i have ever seen
@RealKungFu
@RealKungFu 11 жыл бұрын
This is Mantis!
@Koryuhoka
@Koryuhoka 11 жыл бұрын
ShaolinCenter NO - it is not, you lying sack of dung.
@rachelbayston5007
@rachelbayston5007 9 жыл бұрын
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace This is not mantis. What is the name of the form? Who's your teacher? Who was his or her teacher? And why are you the only mantis boxer in the whole world who thinks mantis claw is for attacking pressure points in the head, who doesn't recognise 7-star stance (which granted doesn't appear in some of the softer mantis styles, like 6 harmony or plum blossom) and who calls mantis claw, as they call it in 7-star mantis, or mantis hand, as they call it in softer mantis styles, the 'mantis beak'? Mantids don't have beaks, so when the (probably mythical) founder of the mantis system, Wong Long, wanted a way to defeat Shaolin boxers whose long stances and fast hands were too much for him and was inspired by the movements of the praying mantis, was he inspired by a mutant one? Or, as is more likely, when a melange of northern kung fu styles (none of which is shown here, incidentally) was thrown together as a vehicle for a more efficient set of fighting precepts based around signature mantis moves which occur in nearly all mantis fist forms, like hook, grapple and pluck, single intercept, supplementary fist, overwhelming and millstone palms, and supplementary lowline kicking built into the stance work, are we to believe that one of those forms, this one, was totally different to all the others in every way?
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom 9 жыл бұрын
+RckChalkJHawk to me this is mantis style, i don't really care if it works
@KeytoKungFu
@KeytoKungFu 9 жыл бұрын
+DarkShroom WTF
@SDG424
@SDG424 6 жыл бұрын
Omg I needed the laugh. Beaks.
@Salih.A.j
@Salih.A.j 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing is called " KATA" , in kung fu.
@David-sn1cs
@David-sn1cs 10 жыл бұрын
You need to look up Wah Lum. This is not what I'm learning in Orlando. If it was I'd walk out.
@seanholland2475
@seanholland2475 11 жыл бұрын
im 27 and have bein training im fitness and martial arts for 20 years and i very much enjoy this video as well as all the rest and ive found that the teacher in this video is awsome i learnd 3 of these katas in one day and spent the next 2 weeks pefecting them now my sparing has taken a new level
@Horrornextdoorgaming
@Horrornextdoorgaming 10 жыл бұрын
Under the jaw, over the head, over the top hook.... Shooooryuken!
@pelagicbeing
@pelagicbeing 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this Jake, and all the hard work you put into sharing all your other videos and skills. You are clearly dedicated to your path, and in my book that is what counts the most in martial arts training, that and just 'keeping going'. Just sorry you have all this negativity and trolling going on in the comments.
@signwithflair
@signwithflair 8 жыл бұрын
Jake... you just make the aliens cancel they plan to meet and make friends with us :(
@invalidrequest
@invalidrequest 5 жыл бұрын
I feel a little dumber for watching it.
@RealKungFu
@RealKungFu 11 жыл бұрын
Totally Real Mantis!!!
@clintrhodus5821
@clintrhodus5821 Жыл бұрын
1,2,3...1,2...lazy takedown now im on bottom Omoplata imanari hammerfist you will not ever get to my level
@clintrhodus5821
@clintrhodus5821 Жыл бұрын
I set traps for men ....chinese martial arts are GIRLISH
@Totentanz23
@Totentanz23 11 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct on all counts, sir. Wikipedia "Kata is a Japanese word describing detailed choreographed patterns of movements practised either solo or in pairs. The term form is used for the corresponding concept in non-Japanese martial arts in general."
@thesiennasmusic
@thesiennasmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Lol i cant help to laugh the dogs reactions lol
@invalidrequest
@invalidrequest 5 жыл бұрын
I know,they're like 'dafuq, dude!?' ..and 'what are THOSE?! On your feet
@dogguyful
@dogguyful 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha those dogs seem to enjoy those beautiful harmonious moves 6:41 Kung fu is beauty👍👍👌👌😁😁
@jrbreitung
@jrbreitung 10 жыл бұрын
So much negativity regarding this video. This is all very basic. Any martial artist knows the secret is in the basics!! Keep gojng Jake!! You inspire me!!
@saadabdullah3225
@saadabdullah3225 8 жыл бұрын
I don't get why everyone's flooding all your videos with negative comments. I find your videos amazingly helpful and they're pretty effective for combat on the streets.
@Koryuhoka
@Koryuhoka 8 жыл бұрын
Saad abdallah - jake mace is a fraud. He's a fake. Nothing you learn from him can help you in the street, or anywhere else. Defending him is like saying that I taught you how to play the saxophone and you played a concert with famous star. I know nothing about playing a saxophone, but you claim that I can teach you. Do you get it now???
@PanteraFistPrint
@PanteraFistPrint 9 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoyed this. A tour of china and japan, learning kata's would be on my list.
@RealKungFu
@RealKungFu 11 жыл бұрын
It IS a traditional form! This is the beginner shortened version. I'll upload some more mantis and the full version coming up soon!
@clintrhodus5821
@clintrhodus5821 Жыл бұрын
Takedown. Fein Guillotine...Von Flu
@rickrenner8528
@rickrenner8528 11 жыл бұрын
this was unbearable,.........the man never been in a fight,........
@jquick85
@jquick85 10 жыл бұрын
That's actually a compliment. Better to be able to avoid conflict if you ask me. Although, I couldn't say that for sure about Jake, I have seen him spar on multiple occasions.
@Koryuhoka
@Koryuhoka 10 жыл бұрын
Josh Quick "sparring" with people is in no way equal to real combat. This guy is a fraud as well as his "master" Sin Kwang The'. Are you not reading that many here are verifying this? You obviously have no experience in real martial arts, so you see this and can't tell the difference between it and the real thing. Martial arts systems are established by the characteristics of their sets or forms. Ask Jake the name of this form and research the origin of it. You won't find it. Because it's fake - like Jake. I'm not "hatin" as many uninformed people here accuse those who expose jake say. Just looking out for those who don't know what is real from fake. If I sell you a diamond ring, how would you know it is real? You go to a jeweler. Ive been involved in martial arts for almost 40 years. I have no videos to post and I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone else. You need to look up right here on YT, all the mantis styles that exist. 7 Star, 6 Harmony, Plum Blossom, Taiji Mantis - look them up and see what real mantis is like. Come back and compare. I'm a Southern stylist so I prefer Southern Mantis Boxing. Check that out too.
@dxmakina
@dxmakina 10 жыл бұрын
Josh Quick then you shouldnt be watching martial art videos, you should be watching sprinting and parkour instead.
@jquick85
@jquick85 10 жыл бұрын
dxmakina Does not wanting conflict or violence mean the whole purpose of self defense is meaningless?
@dxmakina
@dxmakina 10 жыл бұрын
Josh Quick does not running and parkour prove to be the best way of avoiding violence?
@theorulez
@theorulez 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing it from multiple perspectives as well as saying which pressure points would be targeted.
@Gilgamex
@Gilgamex Жыл бұрын
4:15, when you're showing these strikes with that really low stance, I must ask a question about it's effectiveness and utility. I am no MMA expert I'll be straight with you, I just love Lion Rafale from Virtua Fighter. Anyways, it seems you extend yourself really wide, almost too wide. The strikes you do after seem to lack the ability to draw chi and strength from the ground, into your legs & channeled forward into those strikes fully & effectively. To some degree, a lot of elements, I feel are theatrical & are meant to connect with the spirit of the style/stance in question & less for its outright fighting usefulness or effectiveness. What is your take from a more realized & mature perspective as a fighter?
@JustinP117
@JustinP117 10 жыл бұрын
It's sad seeing soo many people who profess to learn Kung-Fu but have lost all sight of the spirituality of it, to bring peace where there is violence. So to all who post negative comments, just remember, no one style is greater than another. The painter can have Kung-fu, the sculptor or the baker can have Kung-fu, Kung-fu is a way of life. Not a rigid form set in its ways. Do not think that because you've learned one way to do something that it is the only way it can be done. Keep up the good work Jake. And do not allow these negative minds influence you. Stay strong!
@tevis69
@tevis69 10 жыл бұрын
The only thing about this form though, is he is doing it completely wrong. It is not Mantis Kung Fu. Not at all
@odekeye
@odekeye 10 жыл бұрын
Tevis Weir lol
@Tr3nchAn0n
@Tr3nchAn0n 9 жыл бұрын
This is not any mantis i recognize. The feet are all wrong. The position and level of the hands. Im curious who taught you this. What did they say the name of this form was and what style of mantis? I do not know much shaolin mantis but this isnt any of the Northern true styles.
@joelalexander7328
@joelalexander7328 7 жыл бұрын
Keep your beak up!!! Now do a REVERSE beak. Now, quickly put up your beak again..."fuff.fuff.fuff." Now hide your beaks in your pockets, confusing your opponent..... THEN, beak UP and peck, peck, peck and then walk away, because your opponent is dead or just REALLY confused by then. KEEP YOUR BEAKS UP, America!!!!!!
@invalidrequest
@invalidrequest 5 жыл бұрын
Beak UP , Cowboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@RealKungFu
@RealKungFu 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :)
@yymjyyobjka1302
@yymjyyobjka1302 5 жыл бұрын
Every one is insulting you, except I. You do contribute much to Kungfu. Can you give another name to this taolu? May be JMMantis Taolu/Kata.
@xDaVOIDx
@xDaVOIDx 11 жыл бұрын
someone should tell this guy fights dont happen like this. This aint a movie
@feoded4823
@feoded4823 3 жыл бұрын
i know it looks stupid but everything is legit lol
@xDaVOIDx
@xDaVOIDx 3 жыл бұрын
@@feoded4823 haha no
@clownbaby7224
@clownbaby7224 5 жыл бұрын
I love this guy. Keep them coming man.
@RealKungFu
@RealKungFu 11 жыл бұрын
It is!
@winfieldjayjr1755
@winfieldjayjr1755 7 жыл бұрын
12 Keyword Verbal Formula: 1.Ou(Hook) 2.Lou(Grapple) 3.Tsai(Pluck) 4.Kwa(Upward Block) 5.Tiao Chin(Go forward after Intercept) 6.Peng Ta(Chop) 7.Chan(Contact) 8.Nien(Cling) 9.Tieh(Tag) 10.Kao(Lean) 11.Chien(Dodge) 12.Teng Nuo (Bounce). Techniques with the fingers, the elbow, and the knee are very often employed in the Seven Star Praying Mantis Style. Fingers are usually applied for thrusting at the eyes and the throat, or for choking the throat of the opponent. Fingers can also be used to Claw at the face of the opponent. (No such thing as a mantis having a beak, which it doesn't have. Beaks are for birds not insects) The first three keywords, "Hook, Grapple, Pluck" always appear together, as these three techniques are usually applied in co ordination to serve for both defending and counter attacking purposes. (again no beak) Taken from the book by Master Lee Kam Wing's Seven Star Praying Mantis Kungfu witten by Wing Tsun Kuen Master Leung Ting, close door disciple of Ip Man.
@shivaprakash6162
@shivaprakash6162 5 жыл бұрын
Wow it's really good Please do some more videos It's really helpful for me
@ParkerBarandon
@ParkerBarandon 8 жыл бұрын
Couldn't punching with the mantis claw break the index finger?
@fantana9481
@fantana9481 8 жыл бұрын
got a part of training similar to iron palm,for train the finger part.
@kiwol7129
@kiwol7129 10 жыл бұрын
your videos are great thnx for your time
@MyFatezero
@MyFatezero 10 жыл бұрын
In your info you put "preying" but its Praying Mantis.
@invalidrequest
@invalidrequest 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, but we're going to "prey" upon some unsuspecting victims with our BEAKS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@derekshepard9525
@derekshepard9525 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Jake! First time viewer. All of these forms look like Shaolin-Do Karate. Jake did you study Shaolin-Do?
@jamiegordon4769
@jamiegordon4769 10 жыл бұрын
Brill video for people who don't do defence studies this is a good video. Just master said moved and that would be all you need to defend yourself successfully! Great vid jake!!! I have watched your chain whip and staff ones... Actually most of them and are very good!!
@Herowebcomics
@Herowebcomics 10 жыл бұрын
The under jaw and over head hits have awesome leg work! Bow stance into horse stance just like what I'm learning!
@The-Travel-Man
@The-Travel-Man 9 жыл бұрын
Chinese say: "You can't teach something you don't know". Jake, this is not Northern Mantis. How can you teach it?
@vanessalopez7145
@vanessalopez7145 Жыл бұрын
Hola! Cuál es el nombre de la patada que hace en el minuto 6:34 ? Gracias 😊
@gamerszone4084
@gamerszone4084 5 жыл бұрын
You are a very good teacher.i am a Indian.but i explained everything.thank you sir
@winfieldjayjr1755
@winfieldjayjr1755 7 жыл бұрын
See Lau Kar Leung's ("Shaolin Mantis") Sammo Hung's ("Warriors Two") Kung fu Quest Northern & Southern Praying Mantis EP 4 Master Mantis Yu Hai.
@TheGuitarChief
@TheGuitarChief 7 жыл бұрын
"This style is very devastating because it's really good" yeah, solid circular logic to open your video there, Jake *eyeroll*
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 11 жыл бұрын
I see some complaints about him calling the form a kata. At :33 he addressed that.
@strikingtiger-filipinomart5043
@strikingtiger-filipinomart5043 4 жыл бұрын
It is said that this guy is called: Fake Jake Mace. I'm not a Kung Fu practitioner, but the real Kung Fu teachers are saying he's teaching Fake Praying Mantis Kung Fu and is deceiving others with what's he's teaching.
@yymjyyobjka1302
@yymjyyobjka1302 5 жыл бұрын
Taolu/Kata's manoeuvers: bow, hands down, double claw up, groin kick, lower stance, consecutive claw attacks, hook round the head claw attack, torso turn, (the other side), claw attack, double claw up, drop elbow, reverse roundhouse kick (bai-lian kick), chin attack, eye attack, double claw, elbow down, kick, chin attack, double claw, .........
@LenKirin
@LenKirin 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny how everyone in this comments section and jake mace has clearly never been in a fight. Guys, you don't strike a horse or bow stance in a fight, taolu is for conditioning. Not only that, but the movements in the taolu are exaggerated; in a fight, you'd be standing upright more + not as rigid. And FINALLY, and I can't STRESS THIS ENOUGH, pressure points dont work the way YOU THINK IT DOES. You don't strike a singular point with a finger, you whittle the nerve cluster down with FORCE. Praying mantis is optimized for JOINT LOCKS, NOT PRESSURE POINT KNOCKOUTS.
@Casa7396
@Casa7396 11 жыл бұрын
Nice! I love it to watch other kung-fu styles and techniques. I subbed u just a few minutes ago and i like u :) . I also do kung-fu, did u ever heard of the kung-fu style "Vo-Dao". thats what i practise and try to master. I begin today with the bo staff spinning, like u showed in ur old vids :) . Greetings from Germany!
@The_Custos
@The_Custos 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work. You seem to really enjoy what you are doing, and got to say, it looks a bit impressive. I wanted to know more, and you have shown me quite a few new things.
@post-apocalypticcomingsoon1625
@post-apocalypticcomingsoon1625 9 жыл бұрын
I think that guy smoked a little too much of the green in his backyard.
@AfroShaolinAmaniel
@AfroShaolinAmaniel 10 жыл бұрын
What style of tang lang quan is this? I practice 7 star praying mantis. So far I have learned er lu chai yao and Tiger Staff. I am currently learning the Hammer fist taolu from Chang Quan
@hardfugoo1
@hardfugoo1 11 жыл бұрын
It's more flexible and you can arguably jab deeper with good conditioning. The 3 fingered hook doesn't work well when you release the wrist. This, however, has an advantage in that it only engages one tendon and allow you much for freedom of motion without sacrificing much structure.
@yymjyyobjka1302
@yymjyyobjka1302 5 жыл бұрын
Although nearly every one below criticizes Jack Mace negatively, I admire his guts and good intelligence to invent a form like this. If it is bad, it will vanish; otherwise, it will be passed on. So why be annoyed and angry? Let this man express what he thinks. This is a land of the free, isn't it? You can also upload a video showing your "correct, orthodox" technique. From your boiling anger, I know he wins; he smiles and enjoys his technique. See who benefits?-----at least psychologically.
@BigJyeTV
@BigJyeTV 11 жыл бұрын
My theory (based on the court case between Jacob Rydberg aka Jake Mace vs Sin Kwang The) is after Jake and Shaolin-do parted ways, he kept some or all of the shaolin-do material to not loose his students, but I think he also creates his own forms based off of what he learned from Shaolin-do. He should have just overhauled his curriculum with REAL authentic kung fu. Everything he does screams Karate-ish...smh
@neinpepe7473
@neinpepe7473 11 жыл бұрын
this isn't mantis. a mantis cannot turn its hips for it has no hips. real mantis kung fu focuses on extremely quick footwork and attacking from the center line
@mindofdafuturestewart3119
@mindofdafuturestewart3119 11 жыл бұрын
ru a master if not shut da fuc up
@neinpepe7473
@neinpepe7473 10 жыл бұрын
nope but i know kung fu and how to spell unlike you, you simple minded fuck
@johng3009
@johng3009 11 жыл бұрын
Reading everyone posts here makes me laugh. It's like one of those old kung fu movies where the plot of the movie is "my kung fu is better than your kung fu."
@chekoch4
@chekoch4 11 жыл бұрын
what is the advantage of this hook position compared with the "normal" hook with 3 or all fingers like in crane style
@kaimencentral
@kaimencentral 9 жыл бұрын
Please, please pleaaaaase.....do yourself a favour....get a teacher who teach you REAL kung fu. Stop showing this fake
@EemSkin69
@EemSkin69 8 жыл бұрын
kaimen i thought his Sifu is Sensei KZbin
@EricSmithElvis7
@EricSmithElvis7 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting,your a master at this.I'll sub too. TCB
@alekx58
@alekx58 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your teaching Retreats tradings
@neils68
@neils68 11 жыл бұрын
My teacher taught me a mantis form and it seemed to last forever. it was a long form. I have long since forgot it but it was a heck of a work out, and mental exercise just trying to remember it all.
@fubokuen
@fubokuen 10 жыл бұрын
This man knows nothing about Chinese gungfu and this is not Northern Mantis.
@stevensalmons6881
@stevensalmons6881 10 жыл бұрын
Bet he woops ur ass
@Koryuhoka
@Koryuhoka 10 жыл бұрын
Steven Salmons No. I bet he can't :"woop" anyone's ass. Stop being so ignorant and look at all the other videos of Mantis that exist on youtube. You can't possibly be that ignorant.. can you???
@fubokuen
@fubokuen 10 жыл бұрын
Steven Salmons He could shoot me with a pistol and that doesn't change the FACT that he's talking out his arse. This 'Chinese Shao-lin Centers'/Shaolin-do stuff is just a con-job and is NOT real Chinese gungfu by any stretch of the imagination. One would be hard pressed to find ANYTHING this guy says that wasn't complete BS.
@fubokuen
@fubokuen 10 жыл бұрын
***** I AGREE, except the original 'Northern Mantis' is 7-Star and, beside a couple obvious 'poke in the eyes', there's no more 'finger' techniques than any other Shaolin. The 'mantis hook' technique allows an arm grab with a bent wrist. Good post though. This is terrible.
@fubokuen
@fubokuen 10 жыл бұрын
***** They don't care HOW they do them, they don't know the difference. Any subtlety is not only lost on them, the idea is mocked. Fave ShaolinDo-er quote from several years ago on Kungfu Online: "I know 75 forms and learned Hsing-i and Bagua just last weekend!" lol. You are a standout on these threads, as someone with bit more perspective.Thanks.
@arturtoth3185
@arturtoth3185 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, interesting form. I've done Tang Lang Quan for a while. What lineage is this?
@Boss-or9qk
@Boss-or9qk 4 жыл бұрын
Who and where do you learn this, it is not right form
@stephenshrubsall4974
@stephenshrubsall4974 11 жыл бұрын
Would like to see you do Southern mantis or Chow Gar mantis forms Jake your stuff is awesome thanks for all your shares
@ecnivmarng7163
@ecnivmarng7163 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dragonkeys2860
@dragonkeys2860 8 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool video Jake I like how you break down each move to show beginners how to do the move properly.
@amedina4959
@amedina4959 8 жыл бұрын
me too, Jake. forget the haters! ur awesome for breaking it down in slo mo!
@jamiegordon4769
@jamiegordon4769 10 жыл бұрын
Could I ask if this is southern or northern mantis? As I study northern mantis and some of the techniques are not familiar such as mantis claw.
@Alphagroudon17
@Alphagroudon17 11 жыл бұрын
Love It Man :D I Want To Learn Tiger, Mantis, Crane, And Drunken Style. I Hope You Have Those Videos Somewhere :) Or Plan To Make Some In The Future You're Amazing.
@NothingMeek
@NothingMeek 11 жыл бұрын
Every video I've seen when you do a double smash blows me away how dialed they are!
@Nahulanham
@Nahulanham 3 жыл бұрын
So, this style is basically for self-defense, possibly lethal, rather than sport boxing.
@jonathankind9053
@jonathankind9053 11 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you explain the higher kicks? I study Southern Praying Mantis, and although I relate to a lot of what you did, where I studied we kept our kicks lower. I trained third generation under Gin Foon Mark.
@ecnivmarng7163
@ecnivmarng7163 2 жыл бұрын
Jake's is a Northern Praying Mantis style, not a Southern one, though they are still common in some movements.
@winfieldjayjr1755
@winfieldjayjr1755 6 жыл бұрын
My goodness he can't be for real. He said "mantis beaks"? When did the mantis get its "beaks?"
@robbietheking69
@robbietheking69 6 жыл бұрын
thx sir I've always liked this style
@itsallaroundyou7085
@itsallaroundyou7085 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this guy is cracking me up!!!! Double smash! Is that what they called that redonkulous looking kick in ancient China. Doubt it. He's like a character in a Paul Rudd movie or something. Or no no no wait! Dangle! From reno. Haha. Anyway. Highly entertaining? Yes. Kung fun? Negatory.
@anthonylong9067
@anthonylong9067 10 жыл бұрын
I really like Mantis style. well. That along with Tiger style and crane. perhaps you should demonstrate this on a person if you haven't yet. (i just ran into this video/channel today)
@TroubleMakerVlogs
@TroubleMakerVlogs 10 жыл бұрын
what if your opponent bites one of your index finger? Do you use only the other hand? Or do you just switch to the middle finger? hehe! lol
@QuickndirectMarketing1
@QuickndirectMarketing1 9 жыл бұрын
Man you are funny.loo
@TroubleMakerVlogs
@TroubleMakerVlogs 9 жыл бұрын
Saint Mars Ahhaaaaaa! 💪
@winfieldjayjr1755
@winfieldjayjr1755 6 жыл бұрын
I will admit i study hung gar kuen. But i do like the Praying Mantis Style of Kungfu. I have Lee Kam Wing's books on Seven Star Praying Mantis Kungfu. A Praying Mantis doesn't have a "beak" they have "hooks" right? Birds have beaks i thought.
@RealKungFu
@RealKungFu 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@mooyingmantis
@mooyingmantis 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you! What family of mantis does the form come from?
@anishanick7621
@anishanick7621 11 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the mantis style. Do you have any Snake Form (kata)? Please post if you have any..
@ecnivmarng7163
@ecnivmarng7163 2 жыл бұрын
"JAKE MACE NORTHERN PRAYING MANTIS FIST" !!! OR "MACE MANTIS" OR "MMA" (MACE MANTIS ART) IN SHORT; THIS'S A FORM/SET/KATA OF NORTHERN PRAYING MANTIS CALLED "JAKE MACE NORTHERN PRAYING MANTIS FIST", if you agree. Though I coined this term, you can change it to a better name. The fist is good in that it symmetries the movements which the original Northern Praying Mantis ones do not. It's good for health and protection. It's good that it has movements not in the original. It's good that it is short. It's good that it exhibits features of NPM.
@dylanrose5707
@dylanrose5707 11 жыл бұрын
to do certain styles like this tiger, crane, mantis... its a respect for the animal itself and upholding that respect works their force in to your style
@CodeRonin42
@CodeRonin42 7 жыл бұрын
Jake mace why does your horse stance have toes pointed out? Why does your seven star stance look like a cat stance?
@mussi7662
@mussi7662 8 жыл бұрын
is wang lang the founder of mantis kung fu
@bregibbons8125
@bregibbons8125 8 жыл бұрын
not this... this isnt mantis kung fu -practitioner for 5 years
@djdjdkdkk462
@djdjdkdkk462 11 жыл бұрын
Are you teaching us for combat or the form?
@mahmoud82004
@mahmoud82004 11 жыл бұрын
Awesoem dude..........Thanks al lotttttttt
@Tommyttm
@Tommyttm 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a damn disappointment this is not real traditional martial arts or praying mantis Kung fu...jake mace I have less respect for you disrespecting the traditional Chinese martial arts...I’m learning northern praying mantis Kung fu in a Buddhist temple...I can say THIS IS BULLSHIT I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU IN SPARRING MATCH.
@yahishua
@yahishua 11 жыл бұрын
Jake i respect how u teach the deadly original five fist form continue your soon to reaching deadly touch techniques Shoalin 36
@philipmontanti7344
@philipmontanti7344 3 жыл бұрын
You would think by now he would find a real teacher and show real kung fu.
@ericburtron7568
@ericburtron7568 11 жыл бұрын
In a real fight, you don't use all the moves shown at the same time. He shows you all the possible moves, and you use them when you can in a fight. Keep in mind, they will almost defiantly block you or counter you if you attack too many times. Only strike if you can.
@teamlents8014
@teamlents8014 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I trained in Northern Plum Blossom with Grand Master Chi Moon Park while i Korea. Interestingly enough he trained the great Roger Hagood in the mid 70's with whom I also correspond though he lives in China now. It is hard to find training in Mei Hua Tang Lang here in the states.
@kde439
@kde439 10 жыл бұрын
funny thought Roger hagood was into the southern mantis?? Im sorry but If you think this is good you dont know what real good kung fu is.
@teamlents8014
@teamlents8014 10 жыл бұрын
Hagood is into Southern as well, I talk with him on a regular basis but as I said he trained with Grandmaster Park in the mid 70's while in the Army. I complimented the man but never said it was good Wu Shu. I trained with two 73 yr old original Grandmasters in Northern Mantis both if whom are from North Korea. They left and went South to join the fight against the North, never to see their families again. I trained with them, ate with them, worked with them, and laughed with them. I know "good kung fu" as I then assume you must as well.
@dlopezh22
@dlopezh22 11 жыл бұрын
The kata is a form but a kata does not have similar movement . A pinion has very similar movement threw out the pinion . A form is both of them
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