Preach does Seat of Sacrifice and Reacts to Elidibus and Exarch Cutscenes

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[@knowwhoiamyet]

The way Elidibus' VA had a slight crack in his voice when he said "but you are not here to see it" is what sold that entire scene for me. That tiny, tiny crack. It was incredible.

[@jillreyerma7592]

That tiny crack gave way to a complete ocean of tears in me tbh

[@UmatsuObossa]

The way there's rage in his voice when he says 'rage', and despair in his voice when he says 'despair', the VA is absolutely masterful

[@ssjonupants]

@@UmatsuObossa and we can't forget "Your sacrifice will be our *salvation*."

[@peen2804]

@@ssjonupants yeah the way he almost whispers salvation is cool

[@BongSwansong]

No matter how many times Ive seen the Elidibus scene, it still gets me. The VA did a fantastic job.

[@KumaNicol]

every time, without fail, I hear him say "But you are not here to see it.." I get emotional. That VA is amazing.

[@jotunn30]

I mean a tragic story doesn’t become less tragic just cause you know something good comes out of it

[@BongSwansong]

@@jotunn30 mkay

[@RokkitGrrl]

Does some heavy crits of emotional damage there.

[@MelaniAlarcon]

im so sad to what happened to him in Endwalker

[@Shiizuko]

"My people. My brothers... My friends." Fucking gets me every time.

[@seekittycat]

That single fcking tear ffffffff

[@Boyzby]

"The rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day. But you are not here to see it." Those words really get me, like "A smile better suits a hero" seems to for so many others.

[@mangalink25]

These healers must have bionic spines for how hard they were carrying, holy moly.

[@75skyloftmexican]

Vappis tho

[@RuneKatashima]

@Urazz He did fail some obvious mechanics though. Also remember he doesn't really have the power to wipe the group and the one time he did a healer Rescue'd him. So yeah.

[@nahuel3433]

This has to be the most disastrous clear I've seen lmao.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@Urazz He did pretty well considering he didn't know the fight. The tanks though, omg.

[@bipedalanimeskull]

for real lol, somehow Preach kept getting teams that are, to put it lightly, rather disastrous, to the point that i don't even know if they are trolling or not (which is really common in his raids and trials fights too many times have the healers carried his teams lol. Especially the diamond weapon fight, they didn't just carry it, they lugged the whole-ass-team to victory

[@tyty8484]

That Elidibus VA is unreal.

[@Xero_Kaiser]

He didn't get as many chances to shine as Emet-Selch but goddamn did he nail that monologue at the end.

[@kirkalmeida]

Matt Stokoe. The man does more character building with a single sentence than some people can do with an entire book.

[@tenjenk]

I loved how he switched from his sincere statement, his confusion from his ailing memory and his over the top behaviour to show Elidibus getting too into the "warrior of light" role. Then there was the VA work for his original form at the end. offhh.

[@tabuukiller13]

Couple references for the fight. First as chat pointed out eventually it’s OG WOL. At 0:49 that’s the FF1 logo pose. The cast summoned slides to FF4 with the Dark knight looking like Cecil and a pair of twin children or in this case lalafell that are a white mage and a black mage dual casting meteor. And the pose with everyone during “mankind’s first hero and his final hope.” Arguably being a fallback to I forget if it was art or the logo for 1.0

[@tabuukiller13]

Oh and of course the ever so fun rock remix of aumarots theme

[@zypherwolfe88]

The Red Bahamut references a Red Dragon that was featured in the CGI opening movie for Final Fantasy Origin on the PS1 re-release of FF1 (bundled with FF2 making it's NA/EU debut). What's hilarious is that such a dragon doesn't exist in FF1 proper and only appears in that opening movie. Was really surprised to see XIV reference it in a blink and you'll miss it kinda way. Good work catching the references you listed though. ^^b

[@khinzaw77]

It was the logo for 1.0 and 2.0.

[@Shiirow]

@@khinzaw77 2.0s logo was decidedly different, its a clear reference to the original 1.0 logo, the "wheel" of heroes.

[@TheAngryMoth104]

The twins are Palom and Porom, who famously lost their lives saving yours

[@deltadeevo371]

I've completed Endwalker, I know what happens. And yet, this still tears me up everytime. I love this game so much man. It does a really good job of drawing in my emotions to make me feel like I'm actually in this universe instead of playing out someone else's story

[@AlexGelinas42069]

I'd argue that the Elidibus stuff hits even harder having now finished Endwalker

[@Loki_Trickster]

@@AlexGelinas42069 True EW does add a ton of levity to Shadowbringers, how EW makes ShB a better is a testimate to the writing.

[@idleeidolon]

Or how good writing can trump dialogue choices with different outcomes.

[@katarh]

@@AlexGelinas42069 Agreed. Elidibus's character goes from cartoon villain to absolute master stroke of little kid with too much responsibility slowing going mad with it.... and Endwalker only piles it on more.

[@IngeniousNinja]

@@katarh "Little kid" might be a bit of a stretch given what we know from the Pandaemonium stuff so far, but he's certainly *young*

[@Kozmokast]

“He’s a primal not a real person” you know I shouldn’t expect twitch chats to have brain cells, but it never ceases to amaze how few they actually have.

[@cyfr241]

wym

[@redcatte5253]

What?, he is a Primal, at least Elidibus as him, he basically did what Ysayle did as Shiva, got the prayers of people to be given form alongside their aether from beyond the rift, that's the entire point of 5.2 and 5.3

[@Gamemaster-64]

@Gud Phrog I think they mean his original role that is being Zodiark. Even if he separated from Zodiark, is he still um.."human"(have no idea what word to say here) or not?

[@sorakh4119]

@Gud Phrog OH. Everything makes sense to me now. Thank you for the explanation

[@LordMazafeff]

"Should I feel bad for him?", Morally Gray done right.

[@psenkdead]

The title should be, healer carry so hard, its wonderful.

[@Spyhermit]

Preach gets rescued constantly should be the title

[@maximilianweber3743]

I have yet to see a single ex wow player that is actually good at the game

[@darkwulf2k]

@@maximilianweber3743 I mean, if you want to get technical, there is Zepla.

[@Lilybellmusic]

@@maximilianweber3743 this is his first time doing the trial + plenty of wow players have cleared savage and ultimate raids like echo and limit guys (and many more)

[@Shiirow]

people arguing that Elidibus isnt a kid because he was on the convocation or he is just small. by ancient standards he is a kid, a snot nosed prodigy that was given the a seat. kid doesnt need to mean like 5 years old, but he was the youngest person on the council. he is essentially the Alphinaud of the ancients.

[@specialnewb9821]

He was like what equivalent to 18-20? A young man compared to the other members.

[@someclevername8167]

@@specialnewb9821 I’d argue even younger than that. Like mid-teen years

[@Zakjuh]

This. Everywhere Elidibus is brought up including the short stories on the site, he's addressed as young man. (shonen) Obviously, they're trying to sell the idea that he's super young compared to the other Convocation members. Of course, by the time of Shadowbringers, he's thousands of years old, but he's also lost his memories and grown more unstable since splitting from Zodiark, so who knows how much opportunity he has really had to mature since then.

[@sparthyslaysstuff2405]

The Alphinaud comparison is apt considering he was also friends with Azem (WOL) and inspired in no short amount by your antics as the resident troublemaker / problem solver on the Convocation.

[@DawnAfternoon]

Exactly. Put an 18-20 year old to become the president of United States and tell me you won't call him a kid.

[@alexandrostype-2211]

from 6:07 to 6:17 I've never heard a voice acting depicting so well how Desperation and exhaustion sounds like. How at that moment He feeled humiliated, how at that moment he knew he has lost the fight, but he still will fulfill his duty. It is absolutely epic and heartbreaking at the same time.

[@michaelreilly6621]

Mad props to the healers in that one.

[@thenoisyninja]

People were upset at how brief the Elidibus story was after all the buildup and hype but after Emet-Selch, the Ascians become more than scheming cloaked figures working to dismantle the world. Their efforts no longer evil but pitiful and desperate if not entirely sympathetic. Elidibus himself could no longer see past his role. I feel like theres no real hate for the Ascians when we finally confront Elidibus. After all, is there any way to hate that which we truly understand even in the absence of common ground?

[@specialnewb9821]

Also after Emet the whole thing transitions to the WoL taking their place even if WoL has different methods and beliefs.

[@udiar]

Aye it helps when you learn that not only their motives are kind of sympathetic who wouldn't give up everything to save the ones they love. But you also learn that your past self was part of the convocation at one point.

[@ketchuprats8378]

wait were people actually upset about that? hes been built up since 2.1 lmao. granted all of his best characterization was in these two patches but hes hardly a rushed character

[@ArchieGamez]

@@ketchuprats8378 true he's the most interesting Ascian back then

[@MrJesuisOMG]

Literally only Elidibus is a Ascian you can truly sympathize with, for every other was just a genocidal madman. Emet deserve no sympathy at all ShB, you can understand the Ascians, but at the end of the day, they are pure evil. Gaia arc ending is literally what the Ascians should be doing ever since the beginning of the time. But they choose genocide instead, nope, can't relate at all with people like that.

[@dzelman444]

Every tank was SO PUMPED seeing that we FINALLY get to hit the button (and remembering to put it on our hotbars for it)

[@dzelman444]

Coming back because I'm running this with the wife tomorrow. AND YES I HAVE LB ON MY BARS!

[@vappie]

now that was certainly a fun pull to recover from the brink of death.

[@Itjustdotbh]

You absolutely killed it, amazing work!

[@rb4868]

I started ff14 and leveled exclusively as a paladin and a dark knight and the first time I ever had to use the tank LB3 I was like "I have to use what?", I believe the fight was one of the final Alexander bosses, after going 50-60+ levels and never using limit break. At the time I didn't even have limit break on my action bars.

[@KMCA779]

yeah, I've seen healers not knowing about it at high 70's. Same with DPS and a few tanks. LB isn't even in a good spot to find it. "general" why?

[@CraftyChicken91]

@@KMCA779 for sure, if it's a meme that people don't even know how it works there may be a problem with how it's introduced to the player.

[@MoonTiger88]

For that one person asking in the chat how that scene works for a lala: they grab G'Raha's staff lower, not at the top. .. :P

[@stevenmewett4489]

I'm now picturing the cutscene as a lala playing out as it would for any other race... But somehow they've managed to find a step stool to stand on from nowhere.

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

The part that made me cry the hardest in SHB was still the bird. Seto saying goodbye to Ardbert and telling him how much he meant to him.. that was one of the hardest tearjerkers I ever watched.

[@SchrödingerKousae]

Elidibus and G'raha bring me to tears in that end scene, Elidibus' knocks me down and makes me cry, then G'raha starts kicking me while I'm already down.

[@RockR277]

I heard someone say recently 'tanks are allergic to LB' and this fight is a prime example

[@DifunctedReble]

Watching Captain Grim continuously suffering and failing tank LB, then scream "YOU DO IT!" at his party-trolls never fails to amuse me.

[@Gamemaster-64]

and interrupting. For healer it esuna.

[@KainZC]

"that hope is everlasting" :) im not crying, u are

[@kirkalmeida]

Alternative video title: The Epic of Floof Lamb the God healer

[@sirf4ce]

The fuckers at Square really know how to stick it in and break it off! It boggles the fucking mind how the FFXIV writers are continuously able to achieve that level of emotionally charged content. It's pretty goddamn impressive actually!

[@roetheboat1]

The writers are really talented in properly setting up stuff beforehand, but I'd also argue that they are equally talented in being able to go back to previous story threads that were dropped due to one issue or another (like all the story beats that got dropped in the switch over from 1.0 to 2.0). Like, the whole G'raha Tia being in 5.0 hadn't been planned out at the end of ARR. The writers were able to recognize that chance and properly integrate it.

[@sirf4ce]

@@roetheboat1 And the music is so well done. Not just fantastic new tracks every expansion(thank you Master Soken! We're not worthy!) but they were able to imbue emotional moments onto their core soundtrack from the beginning. Then, they continue to intently time these musical cues up perfectly so that they hit at moments of new emotion. Essentially, layering emotional moment on emotional moment that we naturally tie to these musical cues so that when the cue hits, it triggers the memories of those moments. And they do this expertly! I remember at the Fan Festival in 2021 when Soken announced that Soken had been working on Shadowbringers while in the hospital undergoing chemotherapy and hiding a Cancer diagnosis from the rest of the dev team. While Yoshi-P sobs over what his best friend had to endure with his back turned, the lead writer, Natsuko Ishikawa, felt bad for trying to get him to trim "To The Edge" 1 second to make it fit better with the cutscene while he was dealing with Cancer and chemo. Several things can be gleaned from that video. Mostly, Soken is a fucking warrior-poet! But, more to the point, that is a story of what is possible when passion meets precision and it's indicative of what they are doing at FFXIV...what they've been doing for a decade. Building cathedrals of story, sound and experiences. 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙮'𝙧𝙚 𝙙𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙤𝙧𝙙'𝙨 𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙠!

[@ChainedFei]

Preach, if you see this message, one of the important things to note about Elidibus is the promise he made to fulfill his duty? it was made to Azem. Your previous incarnation. And he forgot who he made the promise to. He, as WoL was fighting his inspiration, the person who inspired him to take the seat of Elidibus. To sacrifice himself to be Zodiark's heart... it was Azem that likely told him, "The Rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day." In the end, he was fighting against the Hero who had inspired him to become a hero to his people.

[@cas6382]

Yeah its pretty rough and it helps shed some light on how badly his mind was falling apart by that point. Its easy to forget we originally met Elidibus back in ARR while his mind was more intact and he still held some respect for us and was even rather diplomatic in contrast to his fellow Ascians. He also was the one that saved Unukalhai from the 13th before it turned into the void world and treated him well as a disciple. I believe you can actually go back to the Rising Stones and tell him the fate of his mentor which made him feel genuine sad although he understood you had to strike him down. (if you haven't finished the questline that unlocks after you do all the ShB role quests)

[@talancorwell]

Interesting, where did you get this info from?

[@-dash.]

I don't think this is an obvious thing till the event of endwalker and the raid, if I remember right, before endwalker we are still very unsure who this promise are made to

[@cas6382]

@@talancorwell I've done it myself. It opens in the bar near your inn room after you finished all the role quests and is under the New Game+ tab as "Void Quests". You might be able to see him still in the main chamber regardless of if you did all the role quests to tell him the fate of his mentor but my game state is obviously a little different since I've already done it so he's moved. I believe he just stays around after the Warring Triad story since he doesn't have any other orders from Elidibus on where to go next.

[@kratosgow342]

@@talancorwell I think it's short story in Lodestone or some sort of novel

[@frostmourne1986]

SoS is arguably the best raid boss I've ever fought. Also if anyone is curious why some survived LB4 while the rest died, that's because the buff from tank LB3 is "cascading"(imagine a wave of water expanding from the tank who cast it, reaching people at different intervals), ie not everyone gets it at the same time, therefor not everyone expires at the same time.

[@bLuGhOsT_]

It's no Hades

[@Sasorislovery]

Yeah lol healers learn that little tidbit eventually in their career; especially if they’re doing savage. The same principal applies to every aoe heal in this game.

[@anangrydruid6990]

@@Sasorislovery yep as a Dancer main you can ox you're sweaty enough give an extra tiny bit of time to some people on Technical step. About 1 second I think if they're the farthest one away.

[@skylarsimes8]

Cascading is gone. In 6.0 they made all buffs apply at the same time, they died cause they used literally 0 mit with the LB

[@Sasorislovery]

@@skylarsimes8 you can literally see the cascading happening in the video. Also they had scholar shields and sacred soil when the LB4 went off.

[@latino503]

i relive the emotions in these cutscenes when i watch some of the streamers goin through these awesome moments in the msq....then i look at chat and see all the sad pepes and i just laugh lol

[@lightests]

Chat makes reliving these moments worse ... I'm crying over the scene and a few random chat comments makes me laugh so it's just a mess of actual crying laughing.

[@firedrake110]

I'm going to quote chat for how I feel after watching that Seat of Sacrifice run: "These healers are working in sweatshop conditions" This might have been the single worst attempt at Elidibus I've ever seen that, through divine intervention, somehow won? peak content though mate, 10/10 suffering Edit: Another absolute banger of a comment near the end there, "Elidibus was the Convocation's Alphy, just a teen doing his best"

[@ninjaman0003]

i love emet selch so much. i think my favorite line is "what? you think an ancient being incapable of emotion?". it really shows his character while showing our prejudice at the same time.

[@reikoshea]

I've seen some healers carry in my day, but Floof was other worldly. Was OOM nearly the whole fight and still managed to squeak it out there at the end.

[@manaswin123]

Soken use his LB3 for this song and I cant even stop my tear everytime listen to it

[@darkmasterchief227]

I love the first wipe, the party comes back triumphantly from the abyss just to actually die immediately.

[@r2dezki]

Was really funny watching the party sabotage themselves.

[@XelaShade]

Tank LB is Classic, good thing I'm playing Tank and know when to do it xD (you do it after first slash)

[@seekittycat]

When he goes "divided over this star, an rare occurrence always so fleeting" I literally can't comprehend what he means for the longest time because the thought of people disagreeing with each other being super rare is incomprehensible to me.

[@clymacs9241]

Ngl this Elidibus scene is still the most heart-wrenching scene in the entire game for me. Glad to see you have feels for it too. ❤️

[@demilune6555]

The most emotional moment in the whole story, in my opinion Even after Endwalker Had to cry again :s

[@Zazzaro703]

The rains have ceased and we have been graced with another beautiful day. But, you are not here to see it. Just brutal.

[@aerieleah533]

Both tanks did actually cast lb3, the gunbreaker the first time and the warrior the second. But they cast it too quickly. It's actually not super easy to get the timing right. You have to cast it pretty much right after he starts in on his attack, so twitchy fingers lead to dead bodies.

[@ColbyGonzales30]

Casting lb3 right after the text to transcend limits disappears I believe works

[@Artis312]

Nah the timing is easy af lol, cast it once he gets his last bar or a a sec later and you'll be fine.

[@nestorreyes126]

@@Artis312 The problem here is that in EX this LB needs to be cast quicker than in normal

[@Artis312]

@@nestorreyes126 does it? I thought it felt the same. Havent done normal in a while so may be wrong.

[@skylarsimes8]

It's the same timing in EX and normal. 4th bar fills then press it 1 or 2 secs after

[@timalice-2833]

From the first time I heard it I loved this song. Once I heard that Soken produced it from his hospital bed while undergoing cancer treatment, it hit a whole lot harder.

[@sander3]

That Seat of Sacrifice run was very entertaining for all the good and bad reasons. This is top tier FFXIV content

[@cattysplat]

Love coming back to these moments. Wish I could wipe my brain and do it all over again.

[@TheNameCannotBeFound]

I really need to stop watching these at work. It's hard to explain to colleagues why I'm always crying while watching people play games.

[@kefka242]

literally same

[@holo_val]

SAME THO

[@SaigaTenshi]

Until your boss comes and demand a full report on why you were crying during work

[@someclevername8167]

@@SaigaTenshi then you tell him about the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV, which has a free trial that includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn and the award winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime

[@hkr667]

It's not that strange. Whenever any programmer reads our code they start crying as well. It's par for the day.

[@Mesarthim]

That SoS run was like getting tails on a coin flip. I've had to salvage a run like that on red mage before.

[@-u-waa]

I had to do it several times in Endwalker as a Summoner. Not that I'm complaining, honestly feels kinda good helping everybody lmao

[@adamosborne9440]

Had Shinryu run like that last night... 6 people new to duty. In fairness, they learned fast but ooooffff, I think we take for granted how vicious some trial mechanics are the first time through them.

[@Ntwolf1220]

@@adamosborne9440 especially Shinryu - the normal one is so easy if you know what to do but it will one shot some sprouts ez

[@niklasstahl98]

Well, it's Preach's guild, you can't expect them to be good players lol, most of them are probably new as well

[@-u-waa]

@@niklasstahl98 Don't worry, nobody's complaining. It happens a bit in newer content the first time around.

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

All of the debating over Elidibus' age every single time it comes up... He's somewhere around Alphinaud's relative age, possibly a smidge older. He's in the equivalent 16-20 range, but if you want anything more specific than that, it's intentionally left vague. Yeah, he's not referred to as "shounen" like Alphinaud is, but "seinen" can be used for someone as young as 15 (similar to how older teens in English sometimes are called "young man" by old people), and since (unlike Alphinaud) he held a highly esteemed official leadership position in Amaurot, people certainly won't refer to him as "boy". He's not some "lost child" as some are referring to him, but he certainly was a lot younger and more naive than the other convocation members back in the day, and would likely still be considered a "kid" by some definitions, but Amaurot considered him an adult at least

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

A 35 year old would be considered a "kid" if everyone else in his social group were elderly octegenarians. It's all relative.

[@tommenno]

Emet saw him as basically "The innocent young one" but that doesn't mean he's a kid, yup. I'd say equivalent of a freshmen in collage to the upper classmen.

[@Sirax123]

"This battle shall be our last!" Said, probably a few times.

[@25xxfrostxx]

Still entertaining years later to watch Mike take psychic damage from some of the best content in gaming.

[@awsomer76]

I know that scholar took a breather after that

[@OneEyedRyu]

Gra ha truly is my favorite character. Chills and tears in equal measure. Ps. when Gra ha is finally turning to crystal theres is such a content look on his face. No doubt, no fear. Its such pure and genuine faith in his friend, the WoL.

[@beth6703]

Just finishing Endwalker now. It's amazing to me how the Ascians and their story have become my favorite part of the game.

[@lemonlefleur6236]

“You might be the worst tanks I’ve ever heard of” “But you have heard of us”

[@chiekokurokumo]

Preach's face. He seemed really happy playing this section. I think this is what customer satisfaction looks like. Side note: Adorbs catboi healer

[@zeening]

preach: sees GIANT pause icon...... also preach: MASH THE FUCKING KEYS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@TNTspaz]

I love how much FF14 respects the rest of FF. It's such a stark difference to WoW that basically spits in the face of its roots and only exploits them for its own gain. The best of WoW is from warcraft and it's like WoW is ashamed to properly acknowledge the fact besides bastardizing its own story, let alone the original stories.

[@Breaker242]

? there is lots of really pointless references for the sake of references even when better xiv-inlore options would have existed. For example (SPOILER) in EW they reuse the same reference from 2.0 for the Ragnarok ship explaining that its because of its special meaning to our saving and the fall of Dalamud, many people expected them to name the ship after Louisoix after that buildup which would have fitted much better but no lets add references to FF8 and 13 arguably the worst in the series

[@whyareyoubothering]

@@Breaker242 not as bad as literally retconning the legacy of your entire franchise for the sake of a single villain, who appears for a single expansion aka WoW Shadowlands.

[@Boyzby]

@@Breaker242 I could not tell you the name of the ship, that's how little I care about it.

[@Slade951]

Which is probably why u quit during cata. Wow lore was bring held up by warcraft 3 not wow itself. I lost interest and just left.

[@kratosgow342]

@@Breaker242 I mean Eden raid is FFVIII reference glalore

[@Kaos_Toaster]

one thing I would love to see in the description is the date of the stream being highlighted in case we want to continue on from the video. Still highly enjoy the content and please keep going!

[@Icycrits]

I agree with you, but this is from his latest stream at the time of writing this.

[@altaiir541]

I thought I was over it, how is it I still cry to this 😭

[@OhNoTheFace]

When the tank remembered to limit break, I remember thinking that felt early. Yup . . .

[@niklasstahl98]

Mike standing right next to a 2 man soak and letting the entire group get hit is kinda funny lol

[@BargedIn]

more games need dialogue this good

[@gmb3682]

I know it has been said multiple times, but Elidibus's VA was on an entirely different level.

[@Vinclum]

Preach not realizing that the shade was Emet.

[@Kiyobi]

I came here for a reaction, but then I got invested in watching the rest of the fight after the SCH refused to die after the bungled tank LB3 Holy smokes Floof you're a god

[@Grimbonez]

Meanwhile, on the main KZbin channel: But….but…does he like the end of stormblood, or not?!?! What happens in the patches?! Did it turn around?! WHAT ABOUT SHADOWBRINGERS?!?!?!

[@rinny2131]

5.3 is that one patch i just wanna experience again the first time. man. it was so good.

[@fefnireindraer144]

LOL! The crap your chat gave you when you didn't know that WAS Emet was amazing. xD

[@MelaniAlarcon]

It was amazing to fight the protagonist of the first final fantasy game, the first warrior of light

[@unloyal4847]

This fight was awesome and I mt this on my first go and it felt cool. I wasn’t mad at Elidibus and I understood where he was coming from but I could not would not let his wish come true.

[@Someone-dv7hw]

Feels so bad when people can't distinguish between the healers q.q And then they commend the floor lover just because they have a macro that anounces their 3 rezzes when the other healer picked up people including them over 15 times

[@danh8804]

One thing I don't think they get enough credit for is that they manage to root things in the lore and rules they establish. They don't just asspull magic magic bullshit - both Emet's and Elidibus' defeat are tied very clearly back to the rules they established for killing Ascians all the way back in the much-maligned ARR patch content. Other games wouldn't bother, they'd just apply Rule of Cool to whatever solution they had cooked up that day and not worry that there wasn't any set up for it.

[@Demondayo]

I was expecting that 2nd tank lb fail but I still chuckled

[@balazsszucs7055]

Now Mike Imagine what you will feel when you kill the Jailer :D

[@zentyrant]

Nothing ...

[@shrubninja6444]

"Just have to kill him fourteen more times to finish this reputation grind..."

[@fiyibomiolabode]

😂

[@peen2804]

those fucking tanks lol. this happens on endsinger in roulettes all the time too

[@discountdisco2273]

That botched Tank LB3 hurt me on a spiritual level.

[@pupax2000]

Best boy Gra'ha

[@SMNtheNight]

It's not obvious in the English version, but Elidibus was a young adult (early 20's to us), not a "kid" or "child" like twitch chat was spamming. Though he was certainly very young for an Amaurotine to become Elidibus. Unless they were just memeing.

[@Zakjuh]

In Japanese, he's addressed often as shonen, and in the short stories, not that long before Amaurot's fall, he's portrayed as a fanboy with a childish admiration for other Convocation members, particularly Azem. He might not be the equivalent of a 6 year old, but he is genuinely and deliberately presented as very young. You read this in the aforementioned short stories, you see this in the memories from his PoV where other Amaurotines are looking down at him, you see it with his childlike stature after you defeat him and you see this (spoiler) In Elpis, where he looks purposely on the young side and is, once again, treated and addressed as a young man. Of course, the Seat of Sacrifice takes place thousands of years later, but then again, he also lost a lot of his memories when he parted from Zodiark, so chances are he's pretty developmentally stunted.

[@SMNtheNight]

@@Zakjuh Isn't he referred to as 小柄な青年? 小柄な being the na-form adjective for 'short stature' and 青年 being 'seinen' meaning young adult? I don't remember him being referred to as 'shonen' but I could just be remembering wrong. From what I can tell, some of those memories are happening at various points in time during his tenure as Elidibus. From my understanding, by the time the Final Days came about he was already a 'seinen.' And I know this is a bit more of a contentious point, but his Japanese VA also sounds deliberately like a young man, not a teenager. His English VA sounds way older to me though, which kinda goes along with the fact that it feels like the EN version characters have different personalities and almost its own story in a way, for lack of a better description.

[@ZaydenL]

Scholar was definitely the MVP. Lol. Amazing!

[@gloomsi]

Don't mind me, just coming to watch the 10 seconds where emet shows up

[@tadoti6936]

the amount of pvp in this fight KEKW

[@liamweeks6324]

Welcome to the best trial in the entire game. The extreme is absolute god-tier.

[@Spyhermit]

The extreme of this fight is no joke extreme. It's an exquisitely choreographed dance, and unless you nail it, you're going to wipe the raid.

[@poro9084]

but you are here not to see it... that VA was so freaking perfect

[@zeening]

imagine being a former world first raider ignoring ALL the mechanics, doing literally EVERY SINGLE ONE wrong, even one's you've seen THOUSANDS of times at this point..... like giant red AOE markers and the giant pink split markers and stack markers...... the fuck are you guys doing? like Zamaruki from twitch chat said... "mythic raiders btw"

[@maleficios1987]

My god i cant help myself with this game, i cry so much

[@monkeypolice3048]

This is what I was waiting for, I love preach reaction.

[@basteala525]

Hardest question of the hour, who's performance was better: Eli's VA, or those healers? o.o

[@Taron83]

Exarch turning to crystall scene makes me think of the movie dragonhearts ending.

[@ChoppedCheeese]

So lucky to be overgeared for this fight lol

[@andrewtimothy9792]

thanks for uploading this to youtube mr editor

[@SirStrikeFreedom]

One Brings The Carry, One Brings The Wipes

[@GivettheGAS]

It's harder to watch the Elidibus ending than the Emet Selch ending. They really make you feel for their mission, and the sadness that they lost even though they were genocidal maniacs. It was all the tempering I'm sure.

[@sirthanksalot97]

I mean... It sort of wasn't. To them, we're *nothing.* Literal scraps of souls, hundreths of a hundreth of a hundreth of the originals. They say, over and over again, that they do not see us as people - because in comparison our souls, our aether, our *entire being* is so incredibly feeble and ephemeral. Echoes and ghosts, in their eyes. So what's a few such willowy mistakes but to be swept away under what the world ahould really have been?

[@marc789]

Also knowing that elidibius was a child when he zodiark heart make it more sad.

[@GivettheGAS]

@@marc789 Do we know that? I know he is younger in the raids, but I haven't done savage.

[@GivettheGAS]

@@sirthanksalot97 I think you can morally justify all you want, but you are killing sentient people. No matter how elitist your reasons, it's still genocide.

[@xenonecromera]

@@GivettheGAS Pretty much, but I get the Ascian reasoning. Those souls are people they once knew, being born and dying over and over again, never getting to live a true life, suffering and dying endlessly for nothing. They'll die regardless, infinitely. 75% of the ancients souls are trapped within Zodiark and Hydaelen, unable to be reborn. They gave everything so that the world could have a second chance, yet the world they gave it all up for is in pieces, the survivors have become like insects that live lives shorter than the blink of an eye. What as any of it for? If there's a chance to bring it back and save everyone, why would they not do everything they can to make it happen? The aether and souls of those sentient creatures they kill will just come back for another round of suffering and death, what's 14 cycles compared to infinity? It's wrong obviously, but if everyone I knew turned into sentient butterflies that die in 3 days, I'd sure as fuck genocide them if it meant rejoining everyone.

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

How do tanks still not know you press LB 3 when you see 'Transcend your limits'

[@RavenSaint1]

When I hit this scene. I cried like a little baby. Had to go cuddle pups for a while. Later I cheered. I never cried when Magni turned to crystal, it was like, meh, whatever for him. I just had no connection to him.

[@Ticothesquirrel1]

girl who asked

[@shrubninja6444]

The problem is that our WoW characters never felt like part of the world. None of the npcs ever recognized us or talked to us except to tell us to go kill sone stuff. We weren't part of the story of WoW. It was always the story of how the NPCs did something cool and we were just there to watch it happen.

[@sorakh4119]

@@shrubninja6444 I’m not a WoW player so I have a question. Do your characters interacts with the NPC’s in game at all? Like there’s 0 interaction between you and them? Because that genuinely sounds insane and horrible to me.

[@shrubninja6444]

@@sorakh4119 So there is some interaction, but the problem is that since WoW doesn't have a required main story quest like FF14, they can't assume your character has ever done anything. You could have reached the max level by mining copper given enough time, so they have to treat every interaction with any npc as the first time you've met. This means that your character can be the one who killed the Lich King, several Old Gods, and more than one iteration of capital D Death and your faction leader (who you've personally saved like half a dozen times) acts like they have no idea who you are when they tell you to go kill twenty demon boars to feed the army. It's a big part of why people generally don't care about WoW's story nowadays. You don't feel like part of the world. It'd be like if somebody experienced all of FF14's story through youtube clips and wiki articles. It also doesn't help that the big name NPCs are much, much stronger than the player character, so a lot of raids end with one of them actually being the one to do the finishing blow to an enemy after the players "defeat" them.

[@Scruffed]

@@sorakh4119 In WoW you're always called a "champion" or a "hero", but the NPCs seemingly have no recollection of your past deeds or don't necessarily associate those deeds with your character, with few exceptions (e.g. Sylvanas and Azshara do have a bit of memory). Most of the WoW story is entirely focused on the NPCs. There's no equivalent to the FF14 MSQ, but in some of the latest expansions there are some "campaigns" where you are required to follow a short MSQ-esque storyline that is sometimes necessary for your character progression.

[@specialnewb9821]

Interesting to watch someone come in not knowing why this is such a big deal to FF fans. ED: omg that party 🤣🤣

[@mistamemewide]

That wave. That fucking wave.

[@zeening]

would someone fuckin tweet at this guy or something already and tell him what fucking pyretic does SHEESH

[@jaybooze5462]

WAR tanks forgot they actually have to do stuff.

[@SabekujiKaneda]

Can't help but roll my eyes whenever people unironically say that Elidibus is a child. Should be "was" because the damn "kid" has outlived several civilizations until his defeat in ShB jfc

[@perrydunetz882]

He’s also stated to be an adult in the official sidestories, younger than the other ascians, but an adult nonetheless

[@prisoner817]

Yeah what is "young" and "old" for immortal beings anyways

[@shrubninja6444]

I might be wrong, but I think the intention for depicting Elidibus as a child in his last scene was because he was a child when he took on his role and became a vessel for Zodiark? That's just my interpretation though. I haven't looked into other peoples' theories about this.

[@perrydunetz882]

@@shrubninja6444 no, the side stories specifically refer to him as a young adult, elidibus wasn’t a child, but the rest of the convocation were much older than him

[@shrubninja6444]

@@perrydunetz882 Ah, I must have missed those side stories. Thanks for the correction!

[@shakeweller]

Those healers deserve a higher salery holy....

[@soliderarmatang5664]

fun fact, i have this guy 3d printed on my shelf, will paint soon!

[@docdoom1987]

I'm fairly sure he calls someones name with his death cry, but every other time I see this scene I second guess it. There's even a version around with the closed captions showing it.

[@XelaShade]

Early tank LB never gets old lmao