Preach vs Reach: Street Fight (feat. Anthony Magnabosco) - Evolution Exposed Exposed

[@magnabosco210]

Wow. Incredible production. I’m blown away, Paul. Thanks for this.

[@alexlynch8901]

Ray, You refuse to come clean about your incongruent Banana Man "explanations"...so what does that make you? A dit-tee lye-ah.

[@Slum0vsky]

And thanks to you, Anthony, to show us the difference between someone who values honesty and Socratic method and someone who just feeds his audience with pleasing lies (I don't doubt that Ray and Waters ministry doctors their footage in most misleading way, they got caught multiple times).

[@DReite1]

Thank you Paul for having Anthony on. Anthony I would like to apologize to you. I have seen your videos show up and I never even clicked on one. My first thought was. Oh this looks like some Ray Comfort shit, SKIP!!!! But I have watched a few of yours already and I really like what you are doing, you just got a new subscriber!!

[@magnabosco210]

@@DReite1 Hey, that's great. Thanks. I'm glad you decided to give the videos a chance. Ultimately, their intended as examples to show others how to do SE in their regular, everyday lives (and not as a guide necessarily on how to do this in public with strangers).

[@veranicus6696]

Hi , i was wondering if you keeping physical distance on purpose or naturally. I feel you distance is less intrusive, is that intentionally? (english is my second language sorry for mispelling )

[@Marconius6]

"DNA creating itself is so silly!" Trillions of cells undergoing mitosis on a daily basis: "Are we a joke to you?"

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I am replacing my worn out cells as I type this. How do I do it? I work in mysterious ways that are beyond my comprehension.

[@bg6b7bft]

Ray Comfort makes prank videos. "Here, hold this straw. Hey everybody, look at this stupid strawman." He asks you if you believe a concept, and _then_ gives you his definition for it.

[@DeconvertedMan]

hahahaaha! I'm going to use that joke.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray used to be into drugs and crime. Now he's promoting Hebrew mythology.

[@tedferkin]

@@JamesRichardWiley Ray Comfort apparently has a lot of guilt. The Christian god gives him a way out and explains why he was such a bad human. Not because he made those choices, but because of the "Fall of man" and a test by a greater being, who will forgive him if he worships him and brings him many other victims.... sorry I meant believers.

[@Virtualblueart]

@@JamesRichardWiley So he is still into hallucinations and a fraud?

[@davidburroughs2244]

Ray Comfort is into "send me money for telling you the things you want to hear."

[@meghanworkman6449]

Ray: "I don't want to win an argument. I just want you to concede something..." Ummm...that's you wanting to win an argument, Ray.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray doesn't actually argue. He preaches translated, selected sentences written long ago by anonymous barbarians.

[@Onoesmahpie]

What he meant was that he doesn't want to have an argument at all, just to make an assertion and have the other person agree.

[@Forest_Fifer]

He doesnt have arguments, he has scripts. If someone takes it off script, he will either drag it back, or you will never see the interview.

[@archapmangcmg]

Ray, by his own standards, is a habitual liar who shouldn't be trusted. He doesn't care about the truth so much as status.

[@DemonicRemption]

@Meghan Workman Me: *A Christians hiding his face under a hood* I'm not with Ray. I don't know know Ray.

[@ecpracticesquad4674]

One of the issues I have with Ray, aside from all his dishonesties, is that he doesn't engage with the answers he's given. He sticks to one of like three scripts to basically try and shame/embarrass whoever he is talking to.

[@germanvisitor2]

The memory of Conspiracy Catz' will to live fading from his eyes after hearing Ray say: "I don't care but I fear for your soul. The Bible says [...]" for the x-th time during their debate still haunts me. There were people on the internet who told me that they hope my family gets murdered by immigrants and I still feel more disrespected by Ray Comfort.

[@SanjeevSharma-vk1yo]

The original Darth Dawkins / Sye Ten Bruggencate?

[@Locust13]

Ray claims he has never lied since becoming a Christian. Yet he will lie and pretend to agree to a debate for a chance to preach. Once he preaches he sits back, smiles, and says he doesn't have to debate anything because he already magically knows he's right.

[@germanvisitor2]

@@Locust13 Soooooo... Ray is not a Christian.

[@EdwardHowton]

If Ray Comfort couldn't dishonestly edit videos to make himself appear as a Champion of Jesusianity(tm) and wasn't allowed to ask leading questions for his pathetic childish Chinese knock-off-quality apologetics script of stupid bullshit, Ray Comfort wouldn't have a whole hell of a lot left going for him. Like... he'd be left with... .... ....a microphone? Until it gets repossessed.

[@sciencesaves]

Two classy, respectful, godless heathens 🥰

[@southernsal3113]

I didn't even know there are other types of street epistemology. It's nice to know. Nothing like that ever happens to me. 😁🙅‍♀️

[@oddjam]

@@southernsal3113 yee I think it would be cool if this was a norm

[@marketingweb8772]

Awesome profile name!

[@axer3515]

You say that like it's a bad thing?

[@tompaine4044]

I love the idea of showing the dishonesty of Ray's tactic, since he presents little, if anything, with enough substance to be refuted.

[@duncanbryson1167]

I'm thinking of starting a new religion - the Church of The Banana Split. I'm wondering if Ray Comfort would be its prophet 🤔 😁

[@christopherwaters740]

@@duncanbryson1167 in this case it might be spelled profit. But I’d join.

[@Justas399]

Atheist never present any evidence for their atheism to be refuted.

[@duncanbryson1167]

@@Justas399 Sarcasm I trust.

[@christopherwaters740]

@@Justas399 non big foot believers never provide enough evidence for their lack of belief in big foot for us big foot believers to refute.

[@tompaine4044]

Anthony Magnabosco is a legend!! Great choice, Paul 💯

[@BroJo333]

" Is evolution being false, necessary for your God belief ? " Excellent question.

[@philipkirkendall9489]

I used to use Ray Comforts method to evangelism. I now have so many cringeworthy memories! I talked to people that were very uninterested in talking to me.

[@pansepot1490]

Welcome to the (hopefully) sane side.

[@smaakjeks]

We all make mistakes. I cringe at least 2 times a week at stuff I've said or done in the past.

[@bluedragonfly8139]

I once heard that if you find yourself cringing at things you've done In the past, then it means you've grown as a person. Man, I hope so!

[@philipkirkendall9489]

@@bluedragonfly8139 wow! I needed to hear that. Cuz I have a lot of things that haunt me lol

[@DemonicRemption]

@@philipkirkendall9489 Hi, I'm still a follower of Christ, but after being exposed to Ray Comfort, I've got one question:"When you were an Evangelist, what made you think Ray's methods were sound?"

[@DeconvertedMan]

the difference between Anthony and Ray (other then hair) is that Anthony wants a real conversation and cares about the truth. Ray... does not.

[@DeconvertedMan]

Also nailed it Ray is doing a voice over. Very little doubt about that Ray is a con artist, pure and simple.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray's argument never changes. Anything you say can be used against you in Ray's forced confession routine.

[@wesleyshaffer773]

Not to mention Anthony let's the other person actually talk and listens to them and doesn't insult them, act condescending. try to make them feel stupid for their beliefs and gaslight them like Ray does.

[@DeconvertedMan]

@@wesleyshaffer773 True. I wonder if someone offered Ray enough money if he would switch sides - I kinda wonder that about a lot of the apologists out there.

[@samlieneck6943]

@@DeconvertedMan me too

[@AJenbo]

OMG OMG Anthony Magnabosco on Paulogia, day instantly fixed!

[@Ejaezy]

I agree with the music and editing. You don't realize how much of a difference it makes, especially with music, until you listen to video without music.

[@erikvinicius5]

Magnabosco and Paulogia, my favorite channels in terms of honesty, clarity and approach. You guys rock!

[@Gnashadelphia]

Right? If they started a podcast I’d shit my pants.

[@kv4n]

As a graduate from Ray’s Ambassador’s Academy I can tell you exactly what we were taught. It’s not about getting people to think constructively. It more about pointing people to the fact that they don’t live up to the standards of the Bible. And even showing them that the street preacher himself doesn’t live up to Bible’s standards either . Like he says in the video, “If I tell a lie, what would you call me?” To help them feel comfortable calling themselves a liar. Then getting them to admit that if the Bible is correct then they are going Hell. Most Americans have a Christian background so the idea of Hell does scare them. What they do is point out that “if the Bible is true” then they admit they should goto Hell. They call that “appealing to the conscience”. Because they believe the law of God is “written on everyone’s heart”. So they believe they are just reminding them of what they already know, they can’t live up to the standards of the Bible. Then they can swoop in with a “cure”. That cure is Jesus.

[@relativelytired]

I honestly wish I would one day run into ray comfort on the street. Would love to ask him where he got so many misconceptions about atheism. Cause he seems to have an unlimited supply

[@Nilsy1975]

He would dishonestly and completely disingenuous edit the video. Edited because of grammatical errors.

[@thejudgmentalcat]

I bet 8 out of 10 individuals he approaches either don't want to bother arguing with Ray or specifically know who he is and tells him to fuck off.

[@timeshark8727]

lol, he's not interested in what you want to ask. All he wants is soundbites he can edit into videos. Its cute that you think he would let you get in a word he didn't lead you to or acknowledge any questions you asked him.

[@SC-zq6cu]

@@timeshark8727 There is a good trap that one can lay if that happens. If Ray tries to record an interview start recording it. If he refuses to conduct an interview with the interviewee recording, record him saying that and post the clip to the comment sections of all living water videos. If he does allow it to be recorded, record it and if you think you have properly stumped him, post it in the comment section of living water videos, especially in the comment section of any video that you see containing edited version of your interview clip. And if you can do that don't forget to properly point out the edits and explicitly mention how big of a sleazebag he is for doing those.

[@jasonsabbath6996]

I know exactly where he got his misconceptions, he pulled them all out of his butt! He took out the banana and all this crap came flowing out!

[@jrivera345]

The comments on Living Water's videos is very telling. They think Ray wins all of these arguments. Its just him trying to make people feel guilty about being human.

[@southernsal3113]

And, he does it in a very sleazy way. If his version of god is the one, I don't He's too happy with how Ray is spreading the "good news".

[@Simon.the.Likeable]

"I'll pray for Alfonso" when the guy's name was Alonso. Ray's fans are some of the most hilarious commenters on KZbin.

[@Sweetness303]

Making people feel bad for being human is religion in a nutshell.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray always wins on his own videos. Even when he loses.

[@samuelcalderwood1379]

@@Sweetness303 the human nature is sinful, the only way to bridge the gap between you and God is to trust Jesus

[@mbuffym]

What's funny is that creationists think disproving Evolution would somehow prove the Talking Snake Theory of Creation.

[@dustinmorton942]

anthony seems to have an infinite well of patience.

[@richardlewin9282]

Infinitely more than me 😉

[@seionne85]

Hey Paul, I found your channel only recently, but I've really been enjoying your content. Thank you so much for what you do, I don't know where I would be if it weren't for the support I have gotten from you and others here on KZbin to give me the confidence to declare I am a christian apostate. Thank you from the bottom of my heart Paul

[@edwardtrickett1983]

Hi Departure from religion is no easy task I am glad that more and more people are leaving religion and have the courage to say it

[@seionne85]

@@edwardtrickett1983 hey :) totally agree, it's painful but absolutely worth it in the end. I feel like I understand sooo much more about the world now that I don't have to worry about thought police fairies

[@relativelytired]

I left Islam recently, best choice of my life.

[@seionne85]

@@relativelytired congratulations! I hope it went smooth for you, I know that can be a much more dangerous religion to leave

[@foppishdilletaunt9911]

Good for you. I was raised by a couple of no good, eternally damned Atheist, rationalist, humanist, feminist parents & I am amazed by people such as you who manage the Herculean task of breaking free from the indoctrination they were fed on from infancy. Hooray for you ! . I’ve been around a while and I think it is much easier now to find at least an online community of like (free)-minded people. Have fun, never stop learning, never stop questioning, the rational universe is an amazing place to be and more awe inspiring than a silly Bronze Age fairy tale ! Stay safe, be well & have a funky good time !!!

[@jursamaj]

Ray isn't interested in communicating *with* anybody. He's only about preaching *at* them.

[@nicolasandre9886]

Agreed, no matter how many times you try to explain to him atheists don't necessarily believe that "nothing created everything", he keeps using this line with almost every atheist he interviews.

[@nicolasandre9886]

@Steve M : yeah, if you involve magic powers, it's more fun than speculating about some dull, obscure laws of physics. What bothers me with the idea of an eternal god being the cause of the universe is, what was he doing before creating it?

[@LivingWaters]

Watched the whole video. Really enjoyed it. Best wishes, Ray Comfort

[@southernsal3113]

I didn't even read the title, just saw Paulogia and clicked!.. What a surprise, been waiting patiently for the next installment of this series. 😁😁👍👌👍

[@jackjohnson2171]

Anything to do with Ray Comfort is a waste of time. Don't know why someone as talented as Paul wouldn't want more of a challenge

[@seionne85]

@@jackjohnson2171 I see what you mean, but the counterpoint would be, as horrible as his arguments are, there are people who believe it so it needs to be ridiculed into obscurity lol

[@southernsal3113]

Because I'm new to all of this, and I appreciate it.

[@southernsal3113]

@@jackjohnson2171 no, I didn't know.

[@jackjohnson2171]

@@seionne85 Good point

[@ROFT]

Ray is quite open that he doesn't have any problem with quote mining, so I see no reason why he wouldn't edit different questions and answers together.

[@Simon.the.Likeable]

Ray's editing and how his fan base are deceived by (and oblivious to) it are the funniest things about his channel.

[@Slum0vsky]

Or the saddest...

[@Simon.the.Likeable]

@@Slum0vsky Not sad at all in my view. Ray left the country of his birth and headed to where "there's a sucker born every minute." His business turns over millions of dollars every year and he has a mansion in Malibu. His fans get a huge blast of the Holy Dopamine Spirit every time they watch. 98.5% of the people he chooses to interview are totally clueless. What isn't there to laugh at?

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray's fan base is my biggest concern. These people vote.

[@DanDan-eh7ul]

@@Simon.the.Likeable Rather, he only chooses to show the clips of people who are clueless. I've heard plenty of people say that he says at a location days to get many hours of footage and only airs the few idiots he cherry picks.

[@Simon.the.Likeable]

@@DanDan-eh7ul Yep, Ray's strategy in a nutshell.

[@DMWMDX]

None of Ray's interactions are about the "victim" He's always and only playing to the audience. His real message is "take a look at this idiot, we're so much smarter than them so we must be right". It's falseness on so many levels

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

I'd say his message is more "see how bad the reasons of these atheists are for not believing, we only have to tell them about the REAL religion and they will come streaming back. If somebody does not accept the good truth, and refuses to come back it's their stubbornness and their desires to not become a better person, they just want to sin". That way he both shames them out of asking questions and maybe finding they do not really believe all that much of what their doctrine demands them to believe and excuses all "good" atheist arguments that the usual scripts do not allow them to just wave away as "insincere and driven by the motif to not come back" instead of valid questions and justified criticism of religion. It's basically the philosophically shallow version of a vaccination of the mind... only not the least bit beneficial.

[@DemonicRemption]

@DMWMDX It's funny, because Christians are supposed to be against such dishonesty... But being one myself, I've seen this crap since the Pokemon Satanic Scare when I was 11(I'm 32). Zealots like these revel in dishonesty if it suits their cause.

[@wesleyshaffer773]

This is totally about keeping his Fanbsse, the people that follow his channel and buy his books and tracts. He knows darn well he's talking out his a** to these people on the street. Plus he can edit anything that's said so it doesn't matter what they say to him.

[@inefffable]

Great to see Mr. Magnabosco here! That reminds me...I better go binge all of his stuff again!

[@DRayL_]

Regardless of your worldview, I would think that anyone would see Anthony's motives as having integrity....and with honesty. When I watch the videos from Ray Comfort, I get the air of "used car salesman" tactics. It hits me as deceptive. Not a way to actually connect with people....just expecting them to be like how the apologist thinks.

[@warptens5652]

I don't want to win, I just want you to concede.

[@fisharepeopletoo9653]

"I don't want to win this boxing match, I just want you to go unconscious after I punch you."

[@Triumph_Of_Insinuation]

Hey Anthony! Good call! What a great idea to contrast a genuine interlocutor with a pushy-gotcha-evangelist.

[@jakeloranger1419]

I started watching a video of MCToon having a "discussion" with a Christian about the shape of the Earth. I wasn't able to watch the whole video because the Creationist wouldn't stop talking long enough for MCToon to answer his questions and because of hearing issues when two or more people are talking at the same time, I can't follow the conversation anymore. Then I get stressed and overly tired to care enough to make the effort required to understand. Something I appreciate about your videos, Paul, for the most part only one voice is speaking at a time. Anyway what struck me most about MCToon's conversation was how much the creationist couldn't fathom the fact that MCToon is a Christian but he accepts that evolution is real and the Earth is a globe. The creationist kept bringing up the Bible and MCToon kept reminding him that it was possible to have different interpretations of Scripture and that most of the Christians of the world do not share the interpretations of the Creationist. The YEC even accused MCToon of being a liar for saying he was a Christian and not taking the same view as him.. It was quite clear that the YEC was not at all interested in hearing what MCToon had to say. And so communication between two people was impossible. There could be no real exchange of ideas. Now I'll grant that most participants in KZbin debates ae more interested in scoring points and winning the argument then actually trying to understand the other person's viewpoint. But isn't that what happens so often in everyday conversations where there is a difference of opinion? I believe your guest Anthony made some very good suggestions not just for would-be street epistemologists but for anyone wishing to have an honest dialogue with another person. I hope to keep all that in mind whenever I enter a discussion. Lately, when I get into a back and forth on KZbin commentary, if I see that the other person is only interested in scoring gotchas, or is being very dogmatic in his beliefs and dismissive of my arguments or opinions, or starts being abusive and calling me a liar or whatever, I politely state the futility of either of us trying to convince the other and decline to continue the discussion. That way I don't waste the little energy I have on a fruitless exercise and risk getting angry over it, a further depletion of precious energy. Thanks for your always interesting content.

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

Even if someone is focused on "winning", on convincing someone else to their point of view, this approach is far better, far more effective. "You're all wrong and I'm all right" or "you're being silly, foolish, stupid" hardly temps anyone to the speaker's side. Therefore, I have always felt that "gotcha" interviewers are simply trying to build their egos and possibly make their followers feel superior. Even a manipulative asshole who actually wants to convince a target of a different belief would meet in the middle and begin the tug-of-war there and be less obvious in directing the conversation.

[@youngradix1]

Yessssss! The worst part of a Living Waters video is the edits. Especially when Ray asks a ridiculous gotcha question that you know is about to be destroyed by a simple, well known answer, suddenly it jumps to a completely different interview never returning to the response. I would love to see the friend's video of the interview with the woman in the gray O'Neill hat. She's my hero. "Stop following him, he's fake" Love it!

[@tonydarcy1606]

"Why do you believe in God ?" "Because it was instilled into me as a child !" "Why don't you believe in God ?" "Because I was brought up without one." "How does DNA make itself ?" "How did God make it ?"

[@darken3150]

I would venture to guess most atheists actually grew up in believing homes

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I am the evolutionary process. Watch me grow my own body. Replace my cells Digest my food Circulate my blood and form my thoughts. Where does Ray's god fit into this process?

[@DanDan-eh7ul]

@@darken3150 Most Atheists in the West anyway. There are plenty of eastern cultures that are culturally Atheist and raise their Children that way.

[@darken3150]

@@DanDan-eh7ul Yet the total percentage of atheists worldwide is still a minority (7%), most probably grow up with believing parents

[@DemonicRemption]

@Tony D'Arcy "How did God make DNA?" What kind of question is that?

[@nicolasandre9886]

Ray Comfort: "You're going to love evolution exposed" I highly doubt that.

[@pelotonpro048]

Great having Anthony on.

[@Gnashadelphia]

This channel is so damn consistently good.

[@Paulogia]

Thank you.

[@Gnashadelphia]

@@Paulogia of course!! I’m a big fan.

[@user-gk9lg5sp4y]

Ray is evangelizing, pure and simple.

[@isaacstevens1912]

Street Epistemology always helps to shift my perspective back to seeing people as people. His channel is a service to the world.

[@redpillpusher]

can't stress enough how hugely important it is to produce these videos to counter the deceptions of the likes of the ray comforts out there. much thanks to you Paulogia and Anthony and for everyone else creating similar content. we need to rid ourselves of all the religious litter.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Each time I force myself to revisit Ray to see if he "evolved" I am more outraged by his dishonesty.

[@carsonc7320]

The way Anthony's cartoon's eyebrows line up with his jaw line makes it look like he's wearing a bald cap

[@SanjeevSharma-vk1yo]

Reminds me of a Star Trek character (original series), I just can't place my finger on the specific character. Not the original Christopher Pike episodes. Anyone who remembers, I will give you 4,000 quatloos.

[@foppishdilletaunt9911]

What a 06:52am treat ! 2 of the kindest, most humble, appealing men in the Rationality Racket, which is saying a lot. Their tradecraft is excellent & the Kung-Fu is strong. Do it, Dudes !

[@JEnduro]

what is the "Rationality Racket"?

[@danielmartin5632]

@@JEnduro the first rule of the Rationality Racket is.......

[@edwardlupin7917]

Sweet! Lovely new vid to listen to as I go to sleep! Thank you, Paulogia.

[@ViRoseLaBianca]

Two of the best dudes in the atheist movement ❤️

[@Paulogia]

High praise from one of the best people in the atheist movement. ❤️

[@ViRoseLaBianca]

@@Paulogia

[@magnabosco210]

Thanks, Vi. I’m here to learn from y’all, too.

[@reflexnight]

good show and its good to see Ray and his type called out for editing and literally cut and pasting, as well as a new form of quote mining on video.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray reminds me of Saddam Hussein who declared victory before he was taken prisoner.

[@billglenn10]

A big WOW at 6:32 ... That was a great line... I played that over several times...

[@charliethecoyote2896]

Props for using the picture of Nate Diaz choking out Connor Mcgregor to illustrate winning a fight.

[@davidfrisken1617]

Thanks Anthony. Contrary to Ray's claims, honesty and integrity are important.

[@247tubefan]

Creationism summed up. Can't explain something? Therfore God. The End

[@Nilsy1975]

You forgot, "but Bible... "

[@timeshark8727]

.. science can explain something Misrepresent and deny it Therefor god

[@uninspired3583]

@@timeshark8727 i need more like buttons for your comment

[@Aldrnari]

This was so cool. I'm a theist, but I know Anthony's channel and besides yours, Paul, it is one of my favorite "skeptical" channels on KZbin. I loved listening to the contrasts in approach between Ray Comfort's videos and Anthony's, and I agree with everything that was said. I have also gotten the sense in watching Mr. Comfort that he's out there to "gotcha" people, and even though he and I share a belief in God, I doubt he would like my views on the subject---we disagree almost as sharply on the nature of God as Ray and Atheists do---but his style of "gotcha" evangelism certainly wouldn't do anything to shake my current beliefs, or convince me that he's got the right God. In contrast, I have noticed and very much appreciate the calm, measured, *fair* approach of Street Epistemology, and as a scientist, skeptic, and logic-oriented person myself, that speaks so much more powerfully to me. I actually love having this kind of discussion with people who are curious about my faith, because I have spend a lot of time and effort dissecting my own views and questioning my own assumptions. I think it's healthy and, honestly, the only real path to truth. I wish more people in both the Theist and the Atheist camps would do that. (I tend to find that, for all the respect I have for Atheists, they tend to fall into the trap of not questioning their assumptions/tribe nearly as much as Christians do. I think it's just human nature.)

[@ericnox2069]

Yay. This is gonna be good. Thank you for the good morning gift.

[@matthewbloom3869]

I would love to see Anthony interview Ray

[@BroJo333]

Excellent interview Paul. Anthony offers great advice here.

[@nagranoth_]

"What should Ray do differently?" Everything.

[@dougniergarth236]

I don't expect Ray will or would, include someone who knew what they were talking about in his videos, even if he managed to find one or two.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

When Ray is beaten at his own game by someone that knows the Bible better than he does he and his fans express pity and pray for the lost soul. It's pretty disrespectful and obnoxious to watch.

[@TheAntiburglar]

I gotta say I'd LOVE to be street epistomology'd by Anthony precisely BECAUSE he seems to be trying to get at my personal understanding. I feel like I don't really challenge my own beliefs terribly often, and his process looks like a spectacularly compassionate and nuanced way of exploring them. :D

[@veganatheistandmore]

Great job, you guys! Thank you for sharing this.

[@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC]

I recognized Anthony's voice! Great guest, everyone every needs to practice a little SE

[@stevenf927]

If you interview enough people and use selective editing you can create almost anything that you want.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray is a pro at spotting an easy mark. The easy ones to influence have low self esteem and little knowledge of Ray's holy book.

[@scienceexplains302]

We need to get Comfort on a street epistemology interview with Magnabosco

[@Veins1]

14:38 I love what he said there

[@eliot451reade5]

The question my dad always asked was, "Who picks up the trash in heaven?" I don't think he ever got an answer.

[@hexlart8481]

The least important part of a Ray Comfort street interview is the person he is "interviewing"

[@forger42]

Lol, the cartoon versions of Anthony and Paul sitting so close together makes me uncomfortable. Social distancing guys! :P

[@rembrandt972ify]

Don't worry about it. All cartoons deserve to die :P

[@zemorph42]

@@rembrandt972ify Cartoons are immune to most diseases, unless their producers decide otherwise.

[@oddjam]

Wow StreetEpistemology guy?!?! What a crossover episode. Especially to help people understand how to be critical of propaganda, or ANY kind of media. Now y'all just need Vaush to join, and then you'll have a 3 musketeers situation. Edit: Paul has always struck me as being very ethical in his questioning, and his attempt to have fair discourse. So I'm not surprised that these two have a lot of mutual points of view. Thanks for having him on.

[@stevewebber707]

Doesn't Ray's tactics look bad enough already without comparing it to Anthony's work? It may be comparing apples to apples, but one of the apples has worms. I don't know if Ray's methods are successful very often. But if they are, it seems more like emotional manipulations are more relevant than logic or epistemology. Props to Anthony's work. He's ethical and respectful, and actually cares about what people think.

[@markdoldon8852]

I have spoken to a number of educated theists on this subject, a few quite fundamentalists, and none have expressed any admiration or support for Comforts approach. Most simply find it dishonest and all agree it adds nothing to the conversation. I'm not actually certain it's intended to sway anyone. He's literally preaching to the choir, showing a subset of true believers dishonest tricks that they think will let them convert atheists. Thats actually what Ray is selling (figuratively and literally): "buy my shtick and you too can bring atheists too God" If they try it in the real world, they soon discover that it converts nobody.

[@nacoran]

Good to see Anthony getting his props. I remember reading about how when you argue with someone they very often leave the argument more convinced than when they started. When I'm talking with people on FB I really make a concerted effort to ask questions to make sure I'm understanding the other side. I like to think I've always tended towards that style of argument but Anthony's videos have certainly given me good instruction in how to do it better. It's funny, I'm an out in the weeds lefty-atheist, but I often find myself arguing with people on the left... not over goals, but over technique. If you think of politics (social programs, military spending, religion, anything that can be legislated) as a game- at least in terms of games in terms of game theory- I try to tell people that just because we both have the same idea of what 'winning' the game is we may have different strategies for how to get there... for instance, even although politically I'm probably closest to a Democratic Socialist I understand that in a first past the post election system that voting for a Democratic Socialist candidate in a close race, unless they are also backed by the Democrats, is not good strategic voting- vote hard left in the Democratic primary, but vote for whoever wins the primary as long as they are farther left than who the Republicans run... I had a friend who voted for Nader. I liked Nader. In ranked choice I might have even picked him over Gore (although I did have some questions about his ability to lead). Nader was a spoiler in first passed the post. I said that before Florida. So I vote Democratic but also push for ranked choice. When I argue with someone from the Right I try to figure out if they just have a different understanding of economics than I do or if they are just racist. If they are racist,... well, I haven't found a good set of arguments for that yet, but I've got a pretty good set of conversation points for economics, and I'm willing to be convinced on different points of view (A Krugman article changed my perspective on debt).

[@axer3515]

Whenever you see interviews you should wonder what was edited out. Especially in these times of easy cut and paste.

[@LoveTrueMusic1]

5:12 I would count this as a Deaf Gain (as in reframing the common term "hearing loss") as they are protected from this type of audiological persuasion or influence in videos.

[@chasson321]

Two of my favorite guys on the internet. Logical and just really super polite.

[@desperadox7565]

I'm sure Ray has to cut out at least 90% of all people because they totally own him.

[@jancavelli]

Paul you never fail with your contents and discussions thanks again.. and Anthony is awesome at the street epistemology he is unique and really listens to ppl and respect their beliefs no matter what

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

Perfect choice of guest to analyse Ray's style of videos

[@suzannahdarcy6903]

This was an excellent video. Thanks for posting it. I've heard several people say that despite his faults, Ray Comfort is a nice guy. I can't see it -- he strikes me as not just dishonest, but slimy.

[@iangrau-fay3604]

I'm sorry I couldn't finish this all the way Paul, Ray Comfort is a violence trigger in me. You and Anthony are amazing, keep up the great work! I couldn't do what you do.

[@EmeryPigg]

Paul, I love your channel because you give your points in a calm and respectful manner and from a point of view that isn't automatically off-putting to theists. There are some videos that I would love to share with theist individuals I am having conversations with, but the individuals, while being scientifically well thought out, are so abrasive that the average theist listening automatically feels defensive, puts up their guard, and shuts down leading to an essential end to the conversation. I really appreciate your channel. Please keep the great work.

[@grayintheuk8021]

Fantastic video you two, really appreciate both of your channels and your work. Please keep it up it really helps. Ray still gives me the shudders though :)

[@utubepunk]

Anthony has REAL conversations. Ray has a dialog tree.

[@GapWim]

6:04 Ray asks the atheist misleading questions about evolution **Silly jingle background music** 11:18 Ray gives his own “deep and insightful” commentary **Heavy dramatic background music** No emotional manipulation here folks! Move along! Move along!

[@JimmyK53]

I love street epistemology!!!! Great Channel

[@visforvegan8]

Paulagia, f'ing great series, and thanks for introducing us to people we need to subscribe to.

[@mindacarpenter2996]

How many whole interviews do you think he has that he will never release because he accidently talked to a Biology major?

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

A lot! And a few more from other sciences, and maybe a few pre divinity students (not his brand of "Christianity").

[@duediligence8888]

Anthony M is an inspiration

[@Sage-Thyme]

And this is why I like content creators like Paul, the showcasing of other interesting views and content creators. The opportunity to learn a new viewpoint.

[@EatHoneyBeeHappy]

One thing I love about Ray and creationists like him is that they force christians to chose christianity or reality, and many chose reality.

[@christopherconkright1317]

I see apologist as some of the biggest liars out there.

[@bobskane4353]

I think it was Matt D who said "You can't solve a mystery by appealing to a bigger mystery". This is the entirety of Ray's argument. "You can't explain DNA- therefore God".

[@Justas399]

That’s right because we know the mindless purposeless forces of nature cannot make it.

[@bobskane4353]

@@Justas399 What made God? Or, did she create herself?

[@Justas399]

@@bobskane4353 God is an eternal being. He has always existed.

[@HiEv001]

@@Justas399 Claims are easy. You can _claim_ anything. However, where is your objective and independently verifiable evidence that God has always existed? Also, where is your evidence that nothing else, such as a multiverse which always existed and can produce other universes, CANNOT exist?

[@HiEv001]

@@Justas399 - "That’s right because we know the mindless purposeless forces of nature cannot make it." What are you referring to as "it"? Amino acids? Proteins? Bilipid cell membranes? Other building blocks of life? If so you'd be wrong on all counts, because we know that they very much ARE made by the "mindless purposeless forces of nature". All the time. Also, considering that it's very difficult, if not impossible in many cases, to prove a negative, please fill us in on what science proves that "it" (whatever you meant by that) CANNOT occur naturally.

[@MarkC88]

I feel silly for not knowing that this is what street epistemology is. I've thought there was a lot of value in that kind of communication for a while and I didn't even know there was a word for it.

[@russellward4624]

This is like asking random people to explain the combustion engine and when they can't proclaiming cars don't exist. Lol

[@spud1907]

or the God made them. And God power is what powers them.

[@suqmadiq68]

How would debunking evolution be evidence for the existence of any deity?

[@jasonsabbath6996]

And vice versa. Evolution makes zero claims about a deity. Proving evolution doesn't instantly disprove any god or gods. It only really does anything if you literally believe Genesis.

[@suqmadiq68]

@@jasonsabbath6996 : Were you answering the question I posted or some other question?

[@jasonsabbath6996]

@@suqmadiq68 I was saying that evolution debunking doesn't prove the existence of any deity and the existence of any deity doesn't disprove evolution. My bad for not being as clear as I was in my own head.

[@suqmadiq68]

@@jasonsabbath6996 : Vice versa would be : How would debunking the existence of any deity be evidence for evolution? I get you though. I'm going to assume the answer to both of my questions would be, "it wouldn't".

[@jasonsabbath6996]

@@suqmadiq68 I didn't see the question mark the first time I read it. Makes a difference. 😊

[@BryonStice]

Definitely going to check out his channel! Seems like just the kind of thing I'm interested in.

[@okiedokie9228]

Anthony is a great guy

[@kenchristiansen2080]

Instruction book for life? Good thing there is no book. We compare something to a book or code, to make it easier for people to understand.

[@galacticbob1]

What an inane analogy, but I can see why it appeals to him. It encompasses so much implied context, but is not obviously wrong in a way that most people could articulate. Ray must also believe that his car's electronics contain "the instruction book for driving;" his tv contains "the instruction book for showing video," and H2O to be the "instruction book for water." 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@TheMeritCoba]

I doubt that Ray is trying to convince the interviewed. These interviews are probably meant for his audience.

[@AegixDrakan]

They are. :(

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Ray is a professional preacher and book publisher. He is not a debater who exchanges knowledge with his opponent. He memorizes quotations from the Bible and bombards his target believing that he is doing the work of the Lord.

[@Sheyvanrocks]

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[@yerocb]

Another great video. Your guests are always so interesting.

[@Nilsy1975]

A new Paulogia video 🙂

[@kamion53]

what Anthony does is called giving feedback, what Comfort is does is giving backtalk. big difference

[@toddwendt7118]

Another to notch Video, Paul! Keep it up!

[@Jim33933]

2:13 Street Epistemology is where you ask questions to help your conversation partner reveal the reasons and methods that they use to arrive at their own conclusion. Holding back on your view unless they ask for it. "walk me through this" "help me understand this". 3:20 Having a calm, informed consenting conversation partner is very important to SE. 5:09 Don't ask leading questions. Ask open-ended questions. 5:48 If ever approached to do an interview in public make sure to record it or ask a friend to record it so you have the entire interaction in case it is misrepresented online. 6:15 Watch for drawing conclusions from answers. Someone could give an answer then I use that to message which isn't part of SE. 6:30 When asking about evolution or Intelligent Design some people might not care or have much opinion on that so move on and don't spend much time on it. Ask simple questions to verify: where are we going? what really important here to you? what's a factor in the confidence this is true? 7:20 Pay attention to where people are, sitting or standing. Both questioner and interlocker should be on same physical height, both standing or both sitting. Subtle body language. Unconscious power dynamics could cause the interlocker to be guarded. Do I see my conversation partner as an equal? 9:20 We want our conversation partner to be engaged and asking questions too. See them as a human and partner. 10:25 If recording make entire video available if you edit so that it is an honest discussion and it doesn't seem misrepresented. Use video and conversation as opportunity to teach, not message through editing. 11:36 Avoid messaging. Ask a few questions to bring someone to a point to transmit a message. Avoid things like: "by the way, here's the truth..." or "let me correct you..." Be genuinely interested in how someone arrived at their conclusion, because it might be a conclusion that I want to adopt. 12:20 Watch for presumptions we have not agreed upon such as "how can something make itself out of nothing..." This "nothing" is often used by theists to strawman abiogenesis and the program didn't make itself. Spot these false assumptions and challenge them instead of feeling like you need to answer the question. 12:45 Some people give a reason initially for their belief but after exploring it with them it's often another reason or multiple reasons. 13:07 "We ask questions" -- my conversation partner is discovering their reasons along side of me. Discover discrepancy in standards. I.E. Why is evolution too much of a jump but ID is not? 13:52 Goal is to understand NOT win! 14:20 Most important goal is clarity, how can I truly understand what this person thinks is true and main justifications that they conclude that. Repeat it back to them and ask for them to confirm you understand what they just said. 15:05 At the end of the conversation is there progress? Did the interlocker understand better about their position? Did the questioner understand better about their position? Did either change their confidence level or belief? Did one or the other come away with more questions or wanting to research the topic further? 15:30 ethics of SE: Think by myself what the ethical considerations alone. What do I want to achieve, what is a success, what is a failure. What would I want to understand and consent to if it was me on the other end of this conversation? Informed consent, they know exactly what they are getting in to and move at the pace they are comfortable with. 16:30 Sometimes people can be alarmed by what you can reveal of their own thinking. Explain to them exactly what you are doing and why. We'd rather them leave at that point then further into the conversation without that consent. 17:00 Potential downside to SE is that you or your conversation partner may discover that a belief we hold is not true. This could affect what tribes we participate in that require that belief. This could change our life. 18:00 We want to slow down and take time to understand your belief tower. How did you build it? What are the reasons that are propping it up? If you are messaging to correct someone then you aren't helping them understand how they themselves formed their views. That's the most important thing since they are the ones with the views. 18:45 Try to take yourself out of the conversation as much as possible and try to make it about them. They are the ones with the view with the reasons that needs to be understood by them and us.

[@magnabosco210]

Thanks, James!

[@justinthemick13]

Great video. My general answer to any street preacher type on the corner is " Jesus died for his own sins, not mine." That usually stops any further conversation.